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Old 05-04-2020, 12:51 AM   #226
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This is not a knee jerk reaction to the N.S. shooting. This was a campaign promise. This should not be a surprise to anyone who follows politics.


Some of the guns banned.

So 83,000 of the M4 style variants

They cost a MINIMUM of $1000 for the cheapest Norinco made Chinese grade firearm.

83 million dollars to buy back these guns at the lowest price possible on the cheapest variant.
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So 83,000 of the M4 style variants

They cost a MINIMUM of $1000 for the cheapest Norinco made Chinese grade firearm.

83 million dollars to buy back these guns at the lowest price possible on the cheapest variant.
Ya, I don't know why the government is paying either. They should just take them.
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Ya, I don't know why the government is paying either. They should just take them.
If that was the case then the govt. will probably learn some hard lessons about trying to take private property from law abiding citizens. Even here in Canada that would result in some deaths.
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why were these even included in the list other than to pad numbers? lol...



and there are so many more than just these that make no sense..
also i found some models of AR platform that are not listed in the ban by name like the rest are...
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why were these even included in the list other than to pad numbers? lol...



and there are so many more than just these that make no sense..
also i found some models of AR platform that are not listed in the ban by name like the rest are...
That's what I've been asking too. A lot of people seem to be celebrating or getting pissed off without actually reading the list.
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So 83,000 of the M4 style variants

They cost a MINIMUM of $1000 for the cheapest Norinco made Chinese grade firearm.

83 million dollars to buy back these guns at the lowest price possible on the cheapest variant.
the XCR's are like $3200 from what i was able to find online
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This is not a knee jerk reaction to the N.S. shooting. This was a campaign promise. This should not be a surprise to anyone who follows politics.
This absolutely was a knee-jerk reaction to the shooting. Their buyback legislation and grandfathering were not prepared and are not in place.

The rifles on the list make no sense either. The Beretta CX4? Just because it was used in the Dawson shootings... There are lots of other pistol carbines that are still legal.
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I'm totally confused here, so rocket launchers and bazookas were legal prior to this? That's hilarious. I can't imagine you could buy ammo for one, I thought grenades were illegal?

Either way I was out for a walk with a friend yesterday, and he raised a great point that someone else also did in this thread.

He posed "imagine if you were the family of the slain RCMP officer and the Prime Minister of the country did absolutely nothing to curb these weapons from being on the streets?".

You can't satisfy both sides to this argument, gun advocates will argue until they turn blue about losing their "rights" (since when did owning an assault rifle become a right anyways), either way, he ran on that promise, he was voted in on that promise, as such he's keeping his word. Isn't that what we want out of our elected officials?

I guarantee the guys complaining in this thread never voted for Trudeau in the first place.

The whole "these guns came from across the border" argument is also somewhat asinine to me. It's the same walking while chewing bubblegum argument. Who says the Feds won't attempt to clamp down further on limiting that aspect as well?

The irony here is if they did, you'll also be complaining, as that would result in deeper screenings and longer border lineups when crossing into Canada.

Pick your poison.
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This absolutely was a knee-jerk reaction to the shooting. Their buyback legislation and grandfathering were not prepared and are not in place.

The rifles on the list make no sense either. The Beretta CX4? Just because it was used in the Dawson shootings... There are lots of other pistol carbines that are still legal.
Turd was called out this morning during his presser regarding clarity about the buyback program and grandfathering, and in typical turd fashion, had literally nothing to say.

Even with the little he did say, its obvious this was a knee-jerk and had little to no actual substance behind it other than a broad, uncalculated list of firearms.
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I'm totally confused here, so rocket launchers and bazookas were legal prior to this? That's hilarious. I can't imagine you could buy ammo for one, I thought grenades were illegal?

Either way I was out for a walk with a friend yesterday, and he raised a great point that someone else also did in this thread.

He posed "imagine if you were the family of the slain RCMP officer and the Prime Minister of the country did absolutely nothing to curb these weapons from being on the streets?".

You can't satisfy both sides to this argument, gun advocates will argue until they turn blue about losing their "rights" (since when did owning an assault rifle become a right anyways), either way, he ran on that promise, he was voted in on that promise, as such he's keeping his word. Isn't that what we want out of our elected officials?

I guarantee the guys complaining in this thread never voted for Trudeau in the first place.

The whole "these guns came from across the border" argument is also somewhat asinine to me. It's the same walking while chewing bubblegum argument. Who says the Feds won't attempt to clamp down further on limiting that aspect as well?

The irony here is if they did, you'll also be complaining, as that would result in deeper screenings and longer border lineups when crossing into Canada.

Pick your poison.
One cop dies (who frankly seemed like more of PR figure than a well-trained officer of the law imo) and we need to spend 300-500 million to buy back guns that weren't involved in the killing

that makes sense?
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With what your friend asked you while on your walk about how you would feel if you were a family member of the slain RCMP officer and the PM did nothing,

can we alter that a bit for arguments sake?

How would you feel if your family member or a friend died from an overdose?

The PM has done nothing for drug related deaths. The amount of fentanyl deaths from dealers knowingly selling it and absolutely nothing happening to them. Worst case scenario is they get caught and maybe serve 4 years in prison getting 3 warm meals a day and a free place to sleep before they're out on good behavior and back to their old ways.


Honest question, what irks you more?
a mass shooting once every few years killing 10-20 people or all the fentanyl related deaths each year that nobody seems to care about. Oh, Billy O.D'd? oh well we knew he used coke on weekends so he had it coming to him.

Which one is more likely to affect you, a loved one, or someone you know.


I've never voted for Trudeau and yes I'm one of the people complaining.
Like you said, you can't satisfy both sides.
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If that was the case then the govt. will probably learn some hard lessons about trying to take private property from law abiding citizens. Even here in Canada that would result in some deaths.
But I thought law-abiding gun owners would never hurt anybody? Thanks for proving why this law is necessary.
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Which one is more likely to affect you, a loved one, or someone you know.


I've never voted for Trudeau and yes I'm one of the people complaining.
Like you said, you can't satisfy both sides.
Taking drugs is a choice. Getting shot while driving to work is not.
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But I thought law-abiding gun owners would never hurt anybody? Thanks for proving why this law is necessary.
You’re advocating simply taking property which was legally purchased, never used for anything but it’s legal, law abiding purposes (which as pointed out above can START in the $3000 range) with zero restitution because of a knee-jerk reaction to an act perpetrated by illegally possessing firearms which may or may not have been stolen from the very govt. creating these laws?

Law abiding people do not generally commit these crimes, but this would be the equivalent of pouring a bucket of gas on an already stoked fire. There would be people in rural communities who already don’t have much and now you’re going to be literally ripping thousands of dollars worth of goods out of their hands? Good luck

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So 83,000 of the M4 style variants

They cost a MINIMUM of $1000 for the cheapest Norinco made Chinese grade firearm.

83 million dollars to buy back these guns at the lowest price possible on the cheapest variant.
Sell them to America
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You’re advocating simply taking property which was legally purchased, never used for anything but it’s legal, law abiding purposes (which as pointed out above can START in the $3000 range) with zero restitution because of a knee-jerk reaction to an act perpetrated by illegally possessing firearms which may or may not have been stolen from the very govt. creating these laws?

Law abiding people do not generally commit these crimes, but this would be the equivalent of pouring a bucket of gas on an already stoked fire. There would be people in rural communities who already don’t have much and now you’re going to be literally ripping thousands of dollars worth of goods out of their hands? Good luck

And welcome to the block list, I can’t suffer your opinions any longer.
Everyone is born a law-abiding citizen. At some point, a law-abiding citizen commits a crime and becomes a criminal. Saying law-abiding citizens don't commit crimes is like saying virgins don't have sex.
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Getting hit by a drunk driver isn't a choice either. Can I assume you'd back a law that bans alcohol as well?
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Getting hit by a drunk driver isn't a choice either. Can I assume you'd back a law that bans alcohol as well?
Some types of alcohol are banned in Canada. You can't sell pre-packaged drinks with caffeine with alcohol mixed. The Canadian government is not banning all guns just certain types.

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You can’t argue with utter stupidity, Liberal voters and more-so Trudeau supporters are morons. I’m by no means a cons cheerleader and disagree with some of their policy, not to mention have voted Liberal more than Con in federal elections. However anyone who still supports JT, his incompetent cabinet of toads and their current policies needs a psych eval. This country is fucked.
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You can’t argue with utter stupidity, Liberal voters and more-so Trudeau supporters are morons. I’m by no means a cons cheerleader and disagree with some of their policy, not to mention have voted Liberal more than Con in federal elections. However anyone who still supports JT, his incompetent cabinet of toads and their current policies needs a psych eval. This country is fucked.
I guess majority of Canadian's are stupid because a majority of them voted left and wanted stricter gun laws.
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