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SkinnyPupp 06-24-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 8990916)
So a noose is purely a symbol of racism? Plenty of whites have been hanged by the noose..

Bro

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchi..._United_States

(nsfl pics in there)

SkinnyPupp 06-24-2020 01:54 PM

BTW


Now they need to go after the prosecutors who tried to bury this murder

Don't let up!

Also Breonna's murderers (apparently the judge rubber stamped that no-knock warrant as well, so go after her too)

mikemhg 06-24-2020 02:23 PM

^Excellent stuff, they aren't holding back with the charges.

I agree why are the district attorneys still in a job right now? Both should be fired immediately.

mikemhg 06-24-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8990815)
I know it's not an apples to apples comparison, but just look at those regions/neighbourhoods in Italy where the state has retrenched. It has left a vacuum for organized crime to setup shop in an unfettered manner, and in many respects "pick up the slack" the state has left behind by doing things to curry favour with locals (food delivery during COVID, providing jobs...). I am gonna venture a guess that the state is barely engaged in many of those poor, predominantly black communities in the Chicago area. Its to be expected that crime rates rise and many adolescents and young adults turn to crime and/or gangs. And, I don't buy the argument of just putting your head down and going to school and getting good grades to eventually make it out of "the hood". The odds are stacked against many of those young people: single-parent household, parent potentially unemployed or on social assistance, parent not educated, drugs and alcohol rampant...the list goes on.

I totally agree with you Infiniti, it will take a lot more than simple investment in these communities to fix the issue here. It's a very complicated problem, Jon Stewart put forward some excellent ideas in an interview he recently did with the Breakfast Club on how to address these problem, it's worth checking out.

As for the noose thing, I saw the news on that too, to be honest I'm extremely skeptical. You're telling me the FBI concluded this quickly that all is good here? Since when has the FBI ever been trustworthy? The FBI has never been trusted by the black community, and for good reason, check its history.

Seems to me they wanted to close this one up nice and quick, given the climate. Bubba is none too happy about it:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/bubba-...oose-1.4997413

This is the gas-lighting that gets us so damn frustrated. The FBI comes out with that crap in record timing in order to close the story and essentially say "stop being so paranoid".

Meanwhile the same day they announce "nothing to see here", a Confederate flag was flown over the race (by the way, they allege they don't know who did it :lol). Since when can we not confirm who flew a plane over an event?

A parade of flags was held outside the race itself.

A son of a prominent Nascar driver goes to Twitter to say they "should've dragged Bubba around the garage by the noose".

It's like pissing on someone's foot, and telling them it's raining. I stand by my comments about Nascar, and its fans.

Bouncing Bettys 06-24-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 8990916)
So a noose is purely a symbol of racism? Plenty of whites have been hanged by the noose..

Many years ago, in my heavy duty mechanics course, there was a section on knots. We had to be able to identify, tie, and explain the best uses for each in the industry. All sorts of knots like the reef, clove hitch, bowline, and of course the noose. Maybe we were being groomed for the KKK?

GS8 06-24-2020 02:50 PM

INBR Nanoose Bay forced to change name :drunk:

mikemhg 06-24-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8990958)
Many years ago, in my heavy duty mechanics course, there was a section on knots. We had to be able to identify, tie, and explain the best uses for each in the industry. All sorts of knots like the reef, clove hitch, bowline, and of course the noose. Maybe we were being groomed for the KKK?

You're being facetious, if you really believe that, you're more of an idiot than I had figured.

You sound like those guys that claim the Swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol, so what's the big deal about getting it tatted on my arm. You know damn well what it represents.

StylinRed 06-24-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8990918)
How many have been dragged out of there homes and been hung from a tree.

Probably quite a lot, especially in Europe after WW2 (Czechoslovakia etc) or in Mexico

Just saying, not sure if we're keeping this only about the US tho

Manic! 06-24-2020 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8990967)
Probably quite a lot, especially in Europe after WW2 (Czechoslovakia etc) or in Mexico

Just saying, not sure if we're keeping this only about the US tho

Are you talking about Nazi's in Europe? They were probably hunk for killing people and not for whistling at a white girl.

Yes, Mexicans have a history with the noose too.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion...o-12381761.php

Bouncing Bettys 06-24-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8990966)
You're being facetious, if you really believe that, you're more of an idiot than I had figured.

You sound like those guys that claim the Swastika was originally a Buddhist symbol, so what's the big deal about getting it tatted on my arm. You know damn well what it represents.

Indeed i'm being facetious about the KKK grooming part.
Your pointing out my facetiousness reminds me of those in the media/blue checkmarks who feel it necessary to point out and explain any humorous tweet from Trump
as if they are worried people might be duped. Anyways, the noose has legitimate uses, as I described. I could care less how you or anyone else interprets it so long as it gets the job done.

Could you not have responded without the thinly veiled insult?

StylinRed 06-24-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8990980)
Are you talking about Nazi's in Europe? They were probably hunk for killing people and not for whistling at a white girl.

Yes, Mexicans have a history with the noose too.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion...o-12381761.php

No, post WW2, countries like czechlesovakia/baltics
I don't mean capital punishment by hanging which has been/is happening but like thru mobs/gangs/vigilantes

SkinnyPupp 06-24-2020 08:10 PM

For those who legitimately don't understand the symbolism of the noose in America as it regards to racism, the wiki I posted should lay it out for you. There's nothing really to argue about or be confused about.

Manic! 06-24-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8990960)
INBR Nanoose Bay forced to change name :drunk:

Are you trying to be funny or just uneducated?

Hehe 06-24-2020 08:55 PM

It’s what I said before. It’s all about context.

Be very careful about what you wish for. If we are going to ban anything that might upset a group of people, we’d end up with a world where very lil can exist. Who is it to say that what we take for granted today, like eating a steak or choosing veggie instead are not upsetting some group. It’s the context that define it. Not what anything might represent to someone.

Remember, if you want to pick on every bit of thing you could find regardless of context or coincidence, you have to be ready that the next group of people, whether you agree with them or not, to pick on everything they feel wrong about, regardless of the context.

Manic! 06-24-2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8990999)
No, post WW2, countries like czechlesovakia/baltics
I don't mean capital punishment by hanging which has been/is happening but like thru mobs/gangs/vigilantes

What's with white people hanging people?

underscore 06-24-2020 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8990957)
As for the noose thing, I saw the news on that too, to be honest I'm extremely skeptical. You're telling me the FBI concluded this quickly that all is good here? Since when has the FBI ever been trustworthy? The FBI has never been trusted by the black community, and for good reason, check its history.

Seems to me they wanted to close this one up nice and quick, given the climate. Bubba is none too happy about it:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/bubba-...oose-1.4997413

This is the gas-lighting that gets us so damn frustrated. The FBI comes out with that crap in record timing in order to close the story and essentially say "stop being so paranoid".

From what I can tell because it was visible from outside with the door open it was pretty easy for them to find footage that showed it from a race last year. You can see it pretty easily in the clip I saw.

To me that just changes the question to who was in charge of assigning the garages, and did they assign it knowing the noose was there?

welfare 06-24-2020 09:23 PM

There are multiple garages there with the same damn pull chords.
Even after knowing that, he still refused to take any accountability for this charade of virtue signaling. What a surprise.
God the stench of desperation is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
And of course the media won't take him to task for this farce. I'm sure that would be construed as "racist" if they did.

punkwax 06-24-2020 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8991010)
What's with white people hanging people?

What’s with brown people stoning people?

People all over the globe have done shitty things historically regardless of race. Your continuous agenda to post anything and everything to make white people look bad is the most blatant act of racism I’ve seen on RS over the years. That’s saying a lot considering what I’ve read about First Nations and other ethnicities/races over the years.

Your attitude is truly insufferable and maybe you should look in the mirror if you do believe the world needs to change. Apologies for the cliché but if you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

SkinnyPupp 06-24-2020 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8991017)
There are multiple garages there with the same damn pull chords.
Even after knowing that, he still refused to take any accountability for this charade of virtue signaling.
God the stench of desperation is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
And of course the media won't take him to task. I'm sure that would be construed as "racist" if they did.

Which "moron" are you talking about? Because the driver himself thanked the FBI for swiftly getting to the bottom of the issue, saying he's happy to be embarrassed rather than what this potentially may have been.

welfare 06-24-2020 10:02 PM


SkinnyPupp 06-24-2020 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8991021)

Did you even watch the video, or did you just read the misleading title along with the carefully selected thumbnail to make him look like a "moron", intentionally misleading you into repeating it here?

Listen to the interview, he isn't "adamant" about "despite" anything, other than people arguing against it being a noose (something the reporter asked but was edited out in this clip, to intentionally mislead you). He literally said "it was put there in 2019" and it was "not directed towards me but it was a noose". He's arguing against idiots who for some reason can't accept that it was a noose.

Fuck the people who put this shit on youtube to fool the gullible. Next time, watch the video before arguing or calling people "morons"

I am 99% sure that youtube channel is set up by russian trolls or a bot. I don't want to make you feel bad for falling for a russian bot (it has happened to someone else in this very thread but I deleted the posts), but just be aware of sources when getting info. Try to go straight to the source whenever possible. Those can even be misleading sometimes, due to politics, but at least they aren't literally trying to get you to argue with people in favour of... whatever...

welfare 06-25-2020 07:07 AM

Yup it's still a straight up noose.
Wow.

It took the use of 15 FBI agents to discover what anybody with even the slightest amount of common sense and examination could have immediately realized.
Amazing.

mikemhg 06-25-2020 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8990985)
Indeed i'm being facetious about the KKK grooming part.
Your pointing out my facetiousness reminds me of those in the media/blue checkmarks who feel it necessary to point out and explain any humorous tweet from Trump
as if they are worried people might be duped. Anyways, the noose has legitimate uses, as I described. I could care less how you or anyone else interprets it so long as it gets the job done.

Could you not have responded without the thinly veiled insult?

You are right, the insult was not needed.

Once again it's hard to tell on a forum whether or not a person is being serious or not, hence my dislike of this method of discussion. Had we been speaking in person, your sarcasm would've been evident.

SkinnyPupp 06-25-2020 01:44 PM

Looks like my report of that Russian troll video was successful, it's gone now LUL

Manic! 06-25-2020 03:54 PM

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5627141.159311021...o-06-25-21.jpg

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/nascar-bub...oose-1.5626941

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Declaring "the noose was real," NASCAR officials on Thursday released a photo of the rope found in the speedway garage stall of Black driver Bubba Wallace that prompted a federal investigation into whether he had been the target of a hate crime.


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