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Amuse 05-31-2020 07:39 AM

Keep it peaceful.




westopher 05-31-2020 08:25 AM

The first video is what police should be all about. Deescalate the situation, support the public, stand with the people for what is right. There is no other way moving forward.
Of course I understand they must keep order. They must prevent violence and destruction. But they MUST not escalate the situation, and they must keep order before things become violent. The riots are starting as protests, and they have at least some power to dictate how the situation unfolds.

Manic! 05-31-2020 09:54 AM

Guy lies on tv on why he got beat up.


eclipseman 05-31-2020 10:51 AM

The premise of the protests are fine, but there are idiots doing things like this:


MG1 05-31-2020 11:53 AM

So thankful I live in Canada.

I have friends and relatives who live and work down south. It's tough when you work hard and all of it just gets blown up. Looting, violence, business getting torched, etc. I will take high cost of living and lower wages any day. Knowing my family is pretty safe.

Nlkko 05-31-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by twdm (Post 8988299)
So what happened to the social distancing crusaders? These folks are killing elderly people.

Here's a radical opinion. These protests are an indirect consequence of corona lockdowns due to the pressures of poverty and social isolation. All people needed was any kind of spark. Now people with pent up frustration have an excuse to go out and destroy shit.

This man went to Costco and bought bulk tinfoil hats.

Jmac 05-31-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8988324)
So thankful I live in Canada.

I have friends and relatives who live and work down south. It's tough when you work hard and all of it just gets blown up. Looting, violence, business getting torched, etc. I will take high cost of living and lower wages any day. Knowing my family is pretty safe.

We’re a lot better in Canada but race relations still aren’t great.

JSALES 05-31-2020 12:25 PM

Must be scary living in America at times like these especially with all the riots and looting going on. I feel bad for some of the small business owners who got their store destroyed. At least protest peacefully

whitev70r 05-31-2020 12:47 PM

This is just round 1 of this ... wait till the white cop gets acquitted or, even if he is convicted with a ridiculously light sentence and is essentially released because he served it waiting for trial.

underscore 05-31-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8988312)
The first video is what police should be all about. Deescalate the situation, support the public, stand with the people for what is right. There is no other way moving forward.
Of course I understand they must keep order. They must prevent violence and destruction. But they MUST not escalate the situation, and they must keep order before things become violent. The riots are starting as protests, and they have at least some power to dictate how the situation unfolds.

Seeing what is going on in varying cities the response from the police seems to have a very large impact on what direction a protest takes. It's not entirely on them, but in the cities with riots the orders being given to the officers and how they deal with the officers who were escalating things should make it pretty obvious which departments need to have some higher-ups removed from their positions.

mikemhg 05-31-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JSALES (Post 8988329)
Must be scary living in America at times like these especially with all the riots and looting going on. I feel bad for some of the small business owners who got their store destroyed. At least protest peacefully

You're more concerned about an AutoZone than the fact that someone who is black can literally die in a regular interaction with a police officer?

That you can be literally shot going for a jog in a neighborhood by an ex-cop, and have that covered up by your government to protect them?

That you can be shot and killed in your sleep, in your own house, with no repercussions?

But yes, lets be more concerned with the burning down of a Target or AutoZone.

Please do tell, what has peaceful protests done? We were peaceful protesting going back to the 60's under Martin Luther, we're now in 2020 and still dealing with the same problems.

It's very convenient for someone like you who is unaffected by this situation to armchair proclaim that they should "peacefully" protest at this point.

Hondaracer 05-31-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8988328)
We’re a lot better in Canada but race relations still aren’t great.

Frankly it’s engrained in the system here with the liberals interpretation of “reconciliation”

mikemhg 05-31-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8988332)
This is just round 1 of this ... wait till the white cop gets acquitted or, even if he is convicted with a ridiculously light sentence and is essentially released because he served it waiting for trial.

I said it to a friend of mine, as this happens often when charges are actually pushed forward.

The defense team will argue that the jury pool in Minneapolis will be too tainted, and that he would not receive a fair trial.

They will then move the case to another "whiter" county, and a jury of his peers will acquit him.

They did the same thing in the same state of Minnesota with the Philando Castile case, stacking the jury, which ultimately acquitted him.

https://www.salon.com/2017/06/23/the...eople_partner/

The same thing in New York with Amadou Diallo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...174509_000.htm

It goes on and on. But we'll see what happens, 3rd degree murder and manslaughter IMHO are already too light, this can easily constitute 2nd degree murder.

westopher 05-31-2020 01:26 PM

If he is acquitted I can not imagine the consequences.

Alpine 05-31-2020 01:48 PM

What happened to Coronavirus? I guess it wasn't successful enough so time to move onto the next plan. 2020 might as well be a Broadway show.

whitev70r 05-31-2020 01:49 PM

^^ you're not that young. You must remember ... Rodney King but x10.

westopher 05-31-2020 01:55 PM

I was 7 when it happened. I definitely remember it but certainly didn’t grasp the gravity of it back then either. This is 28 years later and as such 28 years more of anger doesn’t bode well for the situation. Not to mention the greater awareness people country wide have of it, as well as the outrage being felt by more than just the black community did back then.

underscore 05-31-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8988335)
But yes, lets be more concerned with the burning down of a Target or AutoZone.

I'm not sure how the franchising works but I don't think Target and AutoZone are considered small businesses which is what i it looks like JSALES is referring to. This guy is a small business owner https://i.imgur.com/pn7qzyx.mp4

MG1 05-31-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8988343)
I was 7 when it happened. I definitely remember it but certainly didn’t grasp the gravity of it back then either. This is 28 years later and as such 28 years more of anger doesn’t bode well for the situation. Not to mention the greater awareness people country wide have of it, as well as the outrage being felt by more than just the black community did back then.

Wow, you guys are so young. I was about that age when Kennedy got assassinated. Five years later, Martin Luther King.

On a side note............... Viola Desmond is the gal on the ten dollar bill. Canada Post prints out Black History Month stamps every year. Racism is everywhere. The day it doesn't exist anymore, is the day the planet blows up. Sad.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia....ople-in-canada

welfare 05-31-2020 02:53 PM

This wasn't the first time these two men had encountered each other.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/86580...mer-club-owner
I'm not trying to trivialize his death by any means, but why are the media and so many others assuming this was racially motivated when there is no indication that it was?

This was Tony Timpa. He died in almost identical circumstances, under police arrest.
They (unwittingly) laughed and cracked jokes while he stopped breathing and even as he was carried away on a stretcher.
His mother had to wait three months just to find out the circumstances that led to his death.
No protests. No riots. No looting. No burning.
I doubt anyone outside of Dallas even knows of him.


Manic! 05-31-2020 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8988346)
This wasn't the first time these two men had encountered each other.
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/86580...mer-club-owner
I'm not trying to trivialize his death by any means, but why are the media and so many others assuming this was racially motivated when there is no indication that it was?

This was Tony Timpa. He died in almost identical circumstances, under police arrest.
They (unwittingly) laughed and cracked jokes while he stopped breathing and even as he was carried away on a stretcher.
His mother had to wait three months just to find out the circumstances that led to his death.
No protests. No riots. No looting. No burning.
I doubt anyone outside of Dallas even knows of him.

https://youtu.be/_c-E_i8Q5G0

Maybe you should have done somthing.

bcedhk 05-31-2020 03:14 PM


"hard work".

The_AK 05-31-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSALES (Post 8988329)
Must be scary living in America at times like these especially with all the riots and looting going on. I feel bad for some of the small business owners who got their store destroyed. At least protest peacefully

Good luck getting an insurance payout. Dealing with insurance companies in the US isn't the easiest either. They'll come up with some bullshit like "Oh you didnt have protestor insurance, we cant cover this" etc.

Teriyaki 05-31-2020 04:21 PM

"Imma entitled to taking all these shoes"

"Because fuck the police"

"Because Freedom"

Thats not how this works.

SkinnyPupp 05-31-2020 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8988335)
You're more concerned about an AutoZone than the fact that someone who is black can literally die in a regular interaction with a police officer?

That you can be literally shot going for a jog in a neighborhood by an ex-cop, and have that covered up by your government to protect them?

That you can be shot and killed in your sleep, in your own house, with no repercussions?

But yes, lets be more concerned with the burning down of a Target or AutoZone.

Please do tell, what has peaceful protests done? We were peaceful protesting going back to the 60's under Martin Luther, we're now in 2020 and still dealing with the same problems.

It's very convenient for someone like you who is unaffected by this situation to armchair proclaim that they should "peacefully" protest at this point.

The first thing you have to do is think, why are the police willing to insert fake protesters to start looting and rioting, provoking other protesters?

If they do that, that means the looting and vandalism works in their favour.

And we're seeing a small part of why here. People are so distracted by the looting, it's all they see. They obviously don't support the cause, because if they did, they wouldn't be talking so much about the looting.

Looting and vandalism is just one shitty part of the whole thing. We saw the same thing in Hong Kong. Some people are going to take it to that extreme. The cops will start doing it too, because they want people to pay attention to that, because it will take a certain percentage of the population away from the cause and into theirs.

Don't be like those people. Support the cause, hope for successful protests, because if not the rioting will continue.

There is so much worse that the other side is doing, and has been doing for decades. They have looted and robbed people for hundreds of years. Bankers, "investors" politicians, cops... They all do it too, it's just not out in the open with broken glass and shoe boxes in front of your face to distract you.


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