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SkinnyPupp 06-05-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8989083)
All 57 members of the Boston ERT resigned after the incident where the 75 year old man was shoved down for no reason. Not for good reasons, but because they don't like how the two officers "who were following orders" are being treated. At least they're making it easier to clear out the shitty cops.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...aPq9CjMrVdsjHo

Good they can fuck off. Don't let them come back. If they can't see how wrong that was, they shouldn't be police in the first place.

The whole police system needs to be rebooted bit by bit, city by city. I am actually somewhat hopeful that can happen, because America is set up to be able to do that. They're already moving towards it in Minnesota.

SkinnyPupp 06-05-2020 05:26 PM

NFL: "We admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest"


After some players made this video calling them out (including Patrick Mahomes, the face of the league)


Jmac 06-05-2020 05:28 PM

Fuck the NFL, they had chance after chance to make it right and actively went in the other direction.

Fuck Buffalo’s ERT.

SkinnyPupp 06-05-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8989088)
Fuck the NFL, they had chance after chance to make it right and actively went in the other direction.

Fuck Buffalo’s ERT.

I agree but it shouldn't ever be too late to try to change. If we don't let someone who fucked up try to make up for it, what are we even trying to do?

The fact that they literally admitted they were wrong is a pretty huge thing, and if they hadn't said that, people would have every right to be all over them about any other statements made.

They still need to follow up of course, and deserve to be called out if they don't, and action should be taken by players and fans if they don't. But if they do, things are starting to change a bit. These small steps add up.

First thing they need to do is get more black people in management, both in the league and in teams. The players are 70% black, but league management is obviously not.

underscore 06-05-2020 06:01 PM

The NFL only cares about making money. They have no issues exploiting the US education system and taxpayer funding, or employing spousal abusers, animal abusers and rapists.

At best they're doing this to try to keep the players happy since they realized a large number of the players are black and they don't have much of a product to sell without them.

Manic! 06-05-2020 06:18 PM

Went to the BLM protest in Nanaimo. The crowd was way bigger than I expected. everyone was wearing masks. A lot of great speeches and some sad stories.

The sign I made. (black and red)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Blm/i-B4v..._182604-X2.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Blm/i-XSR..._170553-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Blm/i-cfD...409_HDR-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Blm/i-Njd...550_HDR-X2.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Blm/i-88m..._182622-X2.jpg

SkinnyPupp 06-05-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8989091)
The NFL only cares about making money. They have no issues exploiting the US education system and taxpayer funding, or employing spousal abusers, animal abusers and rapists.

At best they're doing this to try to keep the players happy since they realized a large number of the players are black and they don't have much of a product to sell without them.

I agree, but every corporation only really cares about making money. What can be done with that money? Also NFL is a cultural influencer in America (don't know how else to put it, that sounds weird but I think you get what I mean). They made it "OK" to oppose peaceful protesting, and are now saying how wrong that was.

I mean it's not like "we won, let's all go home now" but I think this was a positive sign in the right direction. Those need to be pointed out too, otherwise we'd just be talking about the police brutality on protesters, and violent looters over and over again that surround this whole thing.

StylinRed 06-05-2020 06:41 PM

Jordan pledged $100 million to racial equality education charities, which is surprising since he's always remained low key

westopher 06-05-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8989088)
Fuck the NFL, they had chance after chance to make it right and actively went in the other direction.

Fuck Buffalo’s ERT.

NFL can suck a fucking dick. As underscore said, they look the other way when it comes to animal abuse, rape, domestic violence, racism, while vilifying non violent protest, and completely ignoring the health issues that the players suffer due to them pumping them full of drugs to make it through a game and ignoring TBIs in the game. As soon as they realize their greed is going to cost them 75% of their "employees" they shit their pants and pretend to care. Bunch of fucking cunts.

GS8 06-05-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8989039)

So if someone broke in and stole their tape collection, who would they call? Klein Lyons?

Regarding the NFL, I hated that it was a tax exempt entity but they gave up that status only 5 years ago...

whitev70r 06-05-2020 09:04 PM

Colin Kaepernick is the new Nelson Mandela. His down on one knee is now THE symbol of the movement! Let's see if he becomes the next NFL commissioner.

Manic! 06-05-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8989099)
So if someone broke in and stole their tape collection, who would they call? Klein Lyons?

Calling the cops on something like that is pointless. I didn't even call last time something like that happened at our store.

Jmac 06-05-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8989118)
Colin Kaepernick is the new Nelson Mandela. His down on one knee is now THE symbol of the movement! Let's see if he becomes the next NFL commissioner.

The commissioner in major sports leagues is basically the main representative of the team owners. Kaepernick is like the last guy the owners would want as commissioner.

Jmac 06-05-2020 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8989089)
I agree but it shouldn't ever be too late to try to change. If we don't let someone who fucked up try to make up for it, what are we even trying to do?

The fact that they literally admitted they were wrong is a pretty huge thing, and if they hadn't said that, people would have every right to be all over them about any other statements made.

They still need to follow up of course, and deserve to be called out if they don't, and action should be taken by players and fans if they don't. But if they do, things are starting to change a bit. These small steps add up.

First thing they need to do is get more black people in management, both in the league and in teams. The players are 70% black, but league management is obviously not.

It’s a disingenuous move to try to regain the fan, sponsor, and player support they’re losing from this.

As you said in your other response, it’s all about money. Okay, sure, I guess them changing their stance is better than not, but that doesn’t make it any less of an obvious and disingenuous play.

danned 06-05-2020 09:35 PM

https://9gag.com/gag/aR7ep15
FailFish

SkinnyPupp 06-05-2020 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8989124)
It’s a disingenuous move to try to regain the fan, sponsor, and player support they’re losing from this.

As you said in your other response, it’s all about money. Okay, sure, I guess them changing their stance is better than not, but that doesn’t make it any less of an obvious and disingenuous play.

I suspect you're right, and I'm just trying too hard not to be cynical.

It's much easier to see when Amazon puts out a BS statement... With this, I see someone reacting to the actual people who work for them.

GLOW 06-06-2020 09:48 AM

they really need to start cracking down on 911 calls, it can get people killed

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...2ywz0THH6UE6DA

mikemhg 06-06-2020 10:15 AM

I have to say, I'm quite proud of most of the posters on RS in this thread here, overall it seems that most people here are on the right side, and that's extremely encouraging. There are a couple pricks here, but they appear to be the minority.

Big ups to you all FeelsGoodMan

Hondaracer 06-06-2020 11:59 AM

Had a lengthy discussion last night with a friend of my wife’s who came over for a bbq

We had some opposing views and early into the debate I felt like not pursuing it as some of her points I felt like we were not going to get passed but we continued the discussion over about 40 minutes or so. She was quite informed and had a lot to say and by the end we both took a lot from each other’s opinions.

Really thought of this thread as we chatted and by the end of it she definitely gave me a lot to think about and really made me think about how I can actively change the way I think about things/people/circumstance etc.

Might be just because everyone that came over was seemingly starved for human interaction but it felt like a very valuable conversation.

Jmac 06-06-2020 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 8989151)
they really need to start cracking down on 911 calls, it can get people killed

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...2ywz0THH6UE6DA

Behind a pay wall

underscore 06-06-2020 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8989161)
Behind a pay wall

It isn't for me? But here's the article:

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Americans of all stripes are taking to the streets to protest the unjust killing of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police — and the larger issues of police brutality and institutional racism in our society. The vast majority of Americans support these protests.

But even if you’re white and among the paltry 14% of people who strongly disagree with the protests, one might think the recent international humiliation of Amy Cooper for her racist behavior would be enough to at least provoke some circumspection. Enough circumspection to say … not frivolously call police on a black woman for going about her day.

Alas, no.

Little more than a week after the Cooper video went viral — and in the middle of national protests over systemic racism — white New York restaurateur Svitlana Flom called police multiple times on a black woman sitting on an Upper West Side Manhattan park bench, alleging “harassment” and threats against her child.

A series of Instagram posts by user @_brownsugarbaby (the recipient of Flom’s wrath), don’t show anything of the sort. What they show is an entitled white woman appalled at not getting her way — and willing to summon shock troops away from escalating civil unrest until she gets it.

Yes, Flom actually said: “She’s playing the black card.”

Flom alleges the video was selectively edited to make her “look racist.” But it’s pretty clear that she was in no physical danger while making her 911 calls. Her husband walks away from the encounter in apparent mortification while her child plays on a scooter, seemingly carefree, nearby.

This is not what danger looks like.

Danger is not someone sitting calmly on a park bench recording you with their cellphone. Danger is not feeling comfortable enough to sit feet away from your supposed menace, crossing your legs and waiting for police to arrive.

Unprecedented nationwide protests and the message still isn’t getting through.

Amy Cooper’s reprehensible call to police caused her to lose her job, her reputation and even her dog.

Falsely reporting an incident to authorities is a crime in New York and most other states. Aggressively prosecuting these statutes is what it will probably take for the message to finally sink in.

In the interim, here’s that message again, plainly stated:

Calling 911 is not a free mediation service for white people to get the upper hand in banal disputes. We live in an unjust, racist society. Calling police on a black person puts his or her life and liberty in danger. “Feeling” threatened doesn’t mean you are. If you do “feel” threatened, especially in broad daylight with bystanders all around you, walk away. Anything short of that and you don’t “look racist,” you are.
And here's the IG post https://www.instagram.com/p/CA0y00hF...mpaign=loading

SkinnyPupp 06-06-2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 8989154)
I have to say, I'm quite proud of most of the posters on RS in this thread here, overall it seems that most people here are on the right side, and that's extremely encouraging. There are a couple pricks here, but they appear to be the minority.

Big ups to you all FeelsGoodMan

I hope more people post their support here. I know there are people lurking, you can see them right there in the "viewing this thread" list, and posting in other unrelated threads. There are hundreds of old members who never even log in anymore.

Why is it important to pitch in with a post?

The "couple of pricks" need to know they're on the wrong side, and how wrong they are. I mean I suspect there's some trolling going on too, but they need to know that "for the lulz" is not a good reason to be a dick either.

I'm not saying everyone needs to respond to them directly - quite the opposite actually. But posting more info showing why they are so wrong is important. Like posting the latest news, sharing positive changes being made. Or posting more evidence of systemic racism that people aren't even aware of (by, up until now, no fault of their own).

The very fact that Canadians can feel like they can say "this is too stressful, I'd rather not pay attention to it" is a massive privilege in itself. And BTW Canada isn't much better. Not many countries are, when it comes to this stuff.

SkinnyPupp 06-06-2020 03:01 PM

The two cops who pushed that 75 year old man have been arrested

'Breonna's Law,' aimed at regulating no-knock warrants in Louisville, passes Public Safety Committee

They still need to make sure the cops that shot her are no longer, and can never be cops again.

Amid protests, Colorado lawmakers introduce bill to address police use of force policies

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-Requires the use of body-worn cameras for all local law enforcement agencies
-Requires the release of body camera footage from incidents to be released within 14 days
-Requires the division of criminal justice in the department of public safety to create an annual report about uses of force, stops and unannounced entries
-Requires the division of criminal justice shall maintain a statewide database with data collected in a searchable format
-Requires law enforcement agencies to fire officers who plead guilty to inappropriate uses of force and for their certification to be revoked
-Removes qualified indemnity and good faith justifications for protection from civil action
-Changes the state’s fleeing felon rules to match the U.S. Supreme Court findings
Mandatory bias training for police passes Michigan Senate

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The legislation, Senate Bill 945, would add those elements to the Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards’ certification requirements for incoming recruits. An amendment to the bill also added requirements for current law enforcement to receive continuing education annually.
San Diego police end use of carotid restraint, effective immediately

LA Mayor Slashes LAPD Budget As Calls To ‘Defund Police’ Slowly Pick Up Steam

Lawmakers Begin Bipartisan Push to Cut Off Police Access to Military-Style Gear

New York is starting to defund their police force too. Others will follow. This should allow for a proper reset of police enforcement throughout the US. Hopefully Canada follows this lead as well.

320icar 06-06-2020 04:06 PM

Oh my fuck that was the first time I saw that video. The amount of blood that just poured out of his ears gave me full body goosebumps.

The worst part of that story is how the official report said he “tripped and fell” until the video evidence came out.

nothing has changed

Jmac 06-06-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8989172)
Oh my fuck that was the first time I saw that video. The amount of blood that just poured out of his ears gave me full body goosebumps.

The worst part of that story is how the official report said he “tripped and fell” until the video evidence came out.

nothing has changed

Plus one of the cops immediately goes to check on him and gets pulled away by another cop.


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