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That may be true for quite a few of their vehicles...
but the GR86 is built by Subaru in the Gunma plant... so it appears Subaru is just making it for themselves first... perhaps cuz Toyota waited so long to do their announcement?
This was my experience with OpenRoad Toyota for a different car. No realistic ETA for any single car. No cars on lot and there's barely any floor models. They said they expect the shortage to be in effect for the next two years.
Waitlist for Supra is 1 year rn
Waitlist for RAV4 Prime is 3 years
LOL
I wonder if it's affecting Toyota more heavily, because they depend on very efficient operational processes. They were the first to implement and perfect JIT (just in time) and Kaizen to that effect. That usually means they only had enough raw materials to cover what they need at that point in time and expected a backorder at their regular interval.
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I thought Toyota has abandoned JIT for some of their processes as it no longer is as efficient as they original imagined and that's why they were actually only recently started getting hit by the shortage.
The hybrid, prime, and Sienna shortage has been a thing since before pandemic. Sienna waitlist was already 6 months in 2019.
This was my experience with OpenRoad Toyota for a different car. No realistic ETA for any single car. No cars on lot and there's barely any floor models. They said they expect the shortage to be in effect for the next two years.
Waitlist for Supra is 1 year rn
Waitlist for RAV4 Prime is 3 years
LOL
I wonder if it's affecting Toyota more heavily, because they depend on very efficient operational processes. They were the first to implement and perfect JIT (just in time) and Kaizen to that effect. That usually means they only had enough raw materials to cover what they need at that point in time and expected a backorder at their regular interval.
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If you ask the right dealer the times are way less. OpenRoad told me 2-3 years before I could even think about getting a GR86. Asked around and I now have deposit for the 2nd allocation for another dealer with orders submitted to Toyota already.
OpenRoad is the biggest store so makes sense they get the most cars but their customer base and demand must be even bigger.
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The contracts are a bit shit because they won't commit to pricing even if they do have a MSRP, leaves the window open for them to gouge. Don't be surprised if they try to fuck around with you.
That was discussed with the sales and we agreed deposit and order based on MSRP. If Toyota Canada decide to pull a fast one and make it more expensive than the BR-Z then such is life hahaha.
I don't think dealers can add "adjusted dealer markup" to a brand new car like they can in the states here. Used cars are a different story.
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The Subaru contract my friend was gonna sign said that too… but there was a clause on it that said pricing was only valid for 1 week after the paperwork was signed… he got that redacted after I pointed it out to him.
That was discussed with the sales and we agreed deposit and order based on MSRP. If Toyota Canada decide to pull a fast one and make it more expensive than the BR-Z then such is life hahaha.
I don't think dealers can add "adjusted dealer markup" to a brand new car like they can in the states here. Used cars are a different story.
Dealers can install accessories to the vehicle to inflate the price. Just add a Toyota dash cam, floor mats, Cargo net, etc and then you have an overpriced GR86
Anyone else on the fence to place a deposit on the new BRZ or GR86? I placed a deposit for the GR86 in Neptune Blue but I have second thoughts... maybe I should wait until they launch a performance pack with factory Brembos and upgraded suspension.
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^ Did they give you pricing though?
The contracts are a bit shit because they won't commit to pricing even if they do have a MSRP, leaves the window open for them to gouge. Don't be surprised if they try to fuck around with you.
Looks like prices for the GR86 were announced today:
6MT Base / Premium: $31,490 / $34,490
Auto Base / Premium: $33,890 / $36,890
And let’s not forget Toyota usually offers garbage finance rates on anything that isn’t the Corolla, so you might get a better rate at Subaru plus a cheaper msrp
Toyota is awful for financing. They have 0% financing on like two models literally right now and I wouldn't be surprised if they were the undesirable models.
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