If there are videos of him doing the same pose to other players that aren’t black, then I’d accept the apology.

With that said, trash talking occurs in all sports. When you’re trying to get under the skin of your opponent, I’m sure much worse things are said, especially during the heat of the moment. Just don’t get caught, I guess?

Dickenson FailFish

Canucks could have pulled their goalie 10 minutes ago, Blues haven't had a shot since then KEKW

Good defense, bad goaltending (understandable), tons of easy shots, but some breaks as well. Weird game.

Not a good game for Petey. Lots of missed passes, and "whiff" shots to the point the commentator said "is Petey tinkering with his stick again."

I buy it... as long as there is other video incidents as he claimed, of him doing the same insult to other White players in the past.


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There is just some things in DiPietro's game that looks so out of place. Like his foundation and what you would expect from a pro goalie.

Seems to always be unstable and flopping on the rebound chances. I'm not sure if he's being trained to play a more athletic style because he's not as big, but compare his game to Martin and it's night and day difference.

Tonight's first 2 goals weren't his fault though, the 3rd one was bad.

That could very well be why it's the excuse being used

You and I are not racists, so it wouldn't even occur to us that the gesture could plausibly mean two things, but it's the exact type of thing those people often do - things that border on the line of plausible deniability. Like "Proud Boys was formed just as a joke" and "the OK symbol being used by racists was created by trolls" and shit like that. That's where terms like gas lighting, dog whistles can come into play if you want to debate it (I don't, not here at least)

Sometimes things that might get a pass in a court of law because of this deniability still don't pass the sniff test.. If something seems shitty, it probably is. This is where character comes into play. And if this guy was dumped that fast by his team, it's probably something that they knew might happen.

I don’t know the guy or know if he’s a shitty person, but I think you have to at least take his explanation and do some research to see he really has made the same motion before as he says he has. Automatically assuming it’s a dog whistle / KKK thing is not practical… UNLESS he has a shitty history and has ties to groups or has done things like this before.

I can understand how it could get pretty messed up and misinterpreted as much as I can understand what needs to happen if it was in fact intentional.

I’m not really swayed by his team dropping him one way or another, nobody wants to deal with the fires of controversy anymore and these guys are extremely replaceable hockey players if they’re in that league so why even bother?

Yeah I was just saying IF he is a shitty person, that's what shitty people do. The team dumped him maybe because he's a shitty person, or because they don't want to be involved... Don't know anything more than what's been posted (and doesn't matter anyway lol)

This incident also felt overblown and a bit of quick cancel culture reaction.

It is possible that both individuals are right. #15 did not have racial intentions. Subban interpreted it as a racial taunt (maybe due to a history of taunts growing up) and he went off.

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The team hires its first ever female assistant GM.

Émilie Castonguay

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/0...-assistant-gm/

In a statement, Interim General Manager Jim Rutherford says Castonguay, who was the first female NHLPA certified agent in Canada in 2016, “has extensive experience, is driven to succeed, and has a strong reputation in hockey for her intelligence and work ethic.” Castonguay also has experience on the ice, having played in the NCAA Division 1 hockey at Niagara University for four years.

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^ good progressive, leading the way. And the fact that she is pleasant to the eyes is a bonus.

She is/was the agent for Alexis Lafreniere as well....

Depends on who you ask.
Are you minimizing it?

Great hire. Don't know how this will work out in the end, but some fresh voices is exactly what this organization needs moving forward.

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More info. from Rutherford about Castonguay’s duties as assistant GM:


She will play a lead role in player contracts and negotiation, managing the collective bargaining agreement, and her voice will be heard in all aspects of hockey operations. She will be a key member of our leadership team and we are pleased to welcome her to Vancouver.”


Castonguay has a law degree from l’Université de Montréal and is also a member of the Quebec Bar Association.

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I feel like it's overblown a little. Can't really tell from the video on what the guy did. You have to check with the refs to see what exactly happened. Or did he use the n word?

I do feel there's a bit of bullying on Subban's side. In the name of fighting racism, he's basically using social media and his brother's name in talking shit to this guy and leading the hockey community in excluding the player.

Nice hire! Eye candy too!

Miller for Laf?

I don't want to minimize it but I don't want to overblow it either ... you don't think it was overblown? Like when did the incident happen and when did the indefinite suspension and cut from the team and SM exploded .. same day practically!

I'm thinking more like Miller for Laf, 1st and Schneider..

Personally, I've experienced too much racism and jellyness from others to have an opinion that isn't biased.

But we all know what we can say and what we can't say when it comes to chirping.
There's nothing to be gained by saying things that border crossing the line.

Look at Burrow's. We as Nucks fans love him but he did step over the line with some of his chirps.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...canucks-abuse/

Apparently, there was nothing said that was racist ... at least that's #15's side of the story. Often it depends on what the ref heard as proof as well. Not even Subban said guy said anything racist. Everything was centered on the the gesture (of a gorilla/monkey) which was interpreted as racist. See, I'm not even sure you read all deets of the story before your conclusion.

Again, I think I'm with you, we don't disagree on the seriousness of the accusation if it is true. if they are true, it should be dealt with. I'm just saying that here is a case where the guy was tried and sentenced by social media in about a day's time. I call that overblown.

To be fair, I didn't make any conclusions.
It's beyond my control.

Fact remains, black people will be sensitive to anything and everything they deem racist. Same for indigenous people and people from asia. It's not for me to judge whether it is or not.

I don't want to come across as taking this too seriously or too lightly. But it is the flavor of the month so all eyes will be on it. But for too long, it was swept under the rug.

Here's an example. Last week the Bruins retired Willie O'Ree's jersey.
So when will NYR retire #8?

I think the case would be closed if someone finds video of him making that same gesture/taunt to other players that are not of color.

didnt burrows make fun of another players potato farm at one point? :considered: