Originally Posted by dark0821 (Post 9126716)

I dont doubt it lol, you are probably right haha.

Interesting about the build quality, I have low standards so maybe that's why I didn't notice. I think the new car is nth to write home about, but defn smaller panel gaps/better finishes than my Tesla. I thought it was same same, kids love the new ambient lighting though.

Me + Wife are both android phone users, so the last gen PP with the CarPlay only (No android auto) support kinda sucked for us, so the new wireless Android Auto was a welcome upgrade.

The HVAC now all have physical tactile buttons instead of being buried in the old gen touch screen was also a good upgrade.

I cant tell you about rear seats at all because I just realized I never sat in them, not even once... my kids havnt complained at all since the upgrade though, they were dazzeled by the glass roof, though my daughter did say the model 3 roof is still miles better. I guess the smaller rear space doesnt affect elementary kids?

Trunk space wise, I don't think it changed at all (as long as you dont look at specs). I was cheap, and actually used the last gen rubber trunk tray, it actually lines up 95% of the seams, correct width and length down to 1/8in, just the wheel well shape is slighty different. I dont think it is any deeper?

I will comment that I think the rear visibility did decrease gen over gen though, and you do lose the full carbon trunk, which is a bummer~~

Other than above, the other 2 major upgrades were

the speed

the EV range

**doesnt hurt that my 2021 held such good value that upgrading was essentially just a small jump rather than taking on alot of negative equity~~

EDIT - Did your parents get 2 keys for their 2023 Prius Prime?! This pissed me off lol... only 1 key lolol, they said 2nd new key will be given within 6 months lol

Originally Posted by red kryptonite (Post 9126717)

Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9126941)

How do you like the Toyo AT3s? I'm going to be replacing my Falken Wildpeaks soon and I'm thinking of going with the Toyos next time around

Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9126830)

God dam plumbers with their unorganized trucks dropping nails everywhere

Originally Posted by mb_ (Post 9126947)

I'll chime in since I've got Toyo AT3's on my 4Runner

Enjoy them a lot. It's pretty much neck and neck with Wildpeaks from my experience when it comes to performance. Both on and off the road. I find the AT3's (non LT) quieter than Wildpeaks.

It was between Falken and Toyo for me when I was shopping for A/T tires.

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9126984)

i have the LT and they're heavy and loud (but i'm new to truck tires)
did well this past snow storm tho, early freezing rain was still a bit challenging

if you look up the official website it'll show you the tread depth, but i recall P-rated had shallower tread blks

Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9126983)

Do you have the non LT version? One thing I've noticed in my search is the non LT version sidewall is much less aggressive looking then the LT version, but they are a lot less heavy too

Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9126987)

Are yours Load C or E?

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 9127002)

D (8 ply)
made in USA if that matters

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9128430)

Well guys, I finally gave in… it was my birthday and I decided for the first time ever to buy a brand new car as a mid-life crisis present for myself. Sort of. Common sense and practicality and bending to the future made the decision easy for me, took delivery of this guy:

https://i.imgur.com/H7vsM8V.jpeg

“At least it’s not white” is my new mantra.