[Ch28]

The look on Missandei's face was so hot

http://i.imgur.com/AHK0M7e.jpg

[chin3se604]

" Dracarys "

[DanHibiki]

lol i love how everyone's prediction from forums about the ending with daenerys was downright correct right down to how she ends up killing the slave master.

[Ronin]

To everyone that thought this series was slow...

...shit is about to get real.

Other shows are afraid of sweeping changes that affect ratings. George RR Martin has no such reservations.

[Culverin]

You guys should really read the books, there is soooo much more insight and character development.
The casting for this series is awesome, the portrayals are damned good for the character that were written.

And seeing stuff like tonight's ending brought to life was so much better for it.
Also, she's got more acting chops than I expected.


And for those waiting for shit to get real with Arya...
Let's just say you're going to have to be a bit more patient...
:ifyouknow:

[Ronin]

I found the detailed description of the Unsullied one of the most interesting parts during that part of the story, like the accounts of their past battles.

Just think Spartans. That's basically how badass they are.

[quasi]

Well?

Happy? :D

As soon as she handed him the dragon it was like, this motherfucker is gonna die. I'm glad she took out all the slave masters and freed the city as well, that was like the icing on the cake.

[Tim Budong]

http://i.imgur.com/BtdBWOt.jpg

[rsx]

great episode!

[FerrariEnzo]

the look on everyones face when she spoke Valyrian.. priceless...

shits about to get real.. Cant wait for the first place she goes after...


I knew she wasnt going to give up one of her dragons.. the 3 dragons can wipe out an entire army...

[strykn]

After that ep, I want to start reading the books lol, start books from beginning or where the show is?

[Hondaracer]

if you can read relatively quickly you should start from the beggning otherwise it may take you forever to catch up if you are a slow reader

are there going to be 10 episodes again this season?



oh man, the Theon storyline is going to be soooo awsome, people are going to have a big WTF moment coming lol, dont know if it will be this season though

[DanHibiki]

I know it's not spoilers but saying stuff like that still kinda ruins it for those who wish to be completely spoiler free.
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[Hondaracer]

I know it's not spoilers but saying stuff like that still kinda ruins it for those who wish to be completely spoiler free.
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spoilered dat ish

but with that said, with GoT anything said could happen in the next episode, or it could happen 20 from now lol

[Ch28]

I can't wait to see the Unsullied rip shit up

[SoNaRWaVe]

just putting this here for all of you who've seen it to enjoy again:fuckyea:


Game Of Thrones Daenerys Targaryen's Unsullied Army "a dragon is not a slave" - YouTube

[iwantaskyline]

if you can read relatively quickly you should start from the beggning otherwise it may take you forever to catch up if you are a slow reader

are there going to be 10 episodes again this season?



oh man, the Theon storyline is going to be soooo awsome, people are going to have a big WTF moment coming lol, dont know if it will be this season though



I just wish the author would hurry up and get the next book finished already. The show is going to catch up real quick.

[Marshall Placid]

I just wish the author would hurry up and get the next book finished already. The show is going to catch up real quick.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Mr. Martin has to do some seriously FAST writing and editing SOON, or the show will catch up.

The problem is that many of these Epic Fantasy authors have book deals with the publishers where they agree to X number of books for X $.

So, he is contractually obligated to write X number of books.

The problem then is that readers sometimes get books with a lot of words, and very little action that carries the story forwards.

This happened to the latest Dance With Dragons and Feast for Crows.

[Foralark]

are there going to be 10 episodes again this season?

There are 10 this season, although each episode is about 5 min longer, which over a season adds up to more than an extra episode.


I just wish the author would hurry up and get the next book finished already. The show is going to catch up real quick.


According to Wiki...



Showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss intend to adapt the entirety of the still incomplete A Song of Ice and Fire novel series, if HBO permits it. They envision the series to have a scope of some 80 hours, about eight seasons' worth of material.[25] However, Benioff and Weiss have no stated intention of padding Game of Thrones out so as to wait for George R.R. Martin (who has taken up to six years to write an installment of A Song of Ice and Fire) to finish writing the last two novels. Knowing the broad outlines of Martin's intended ending for A Song of Ice and Fire, and concerned that extending Game of Thrones to ten seasons would kill its sense of momentum, they consider it possible (if not preferable) that the TV series ends before the last novel is published.[26]

...

Seasons 1 and 2 each adapted one novel. For the later seasons, the creators conceive of Game of Thrones as an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire as a whole, rather than of individual novels.[31] This gives them the liberty to move events back and forth across books according to the requirements of the screen adaptation.[32]

The four seasons ordered so far each consist of ten episodes. Most episodes from the first and second season run for about 52 minutes, while many of the third season's episodes are 56 or 57 minutes long. The series' pilot and the second season finale run for more than an hour, as is also likely for the third season's finale.[30][33]

[hotjoint]

Great EP, everything I predicted happened :thumbsup:

[Culverin]

I just wish the author would hurry up and get the next book finished already. The show is going to catch up real quick.


relevant.


Write Like the Wind (George R. R. Martin) - YouTube

[kwy]

Dany was badass in the last episode.

[Tim Budong]

YGRITEEE BOOBSSSSSSS

that is all

does jon snow know?

[Culverin]

does jon snow know?


You Know Nothing Jon Snow - YouTube

[2 n r]

Lol

"FUK MEH JUN SNUH"
http://specficmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012-05-21_ygritte.jpg

[Tim Budong]

DOES JON SNOW KNOW HOW TO....

[kev1n9121]

JON SNOW KNOWS!!!! JON SNOW FUCKIN KNOWS!!!!

http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/cde42cb3_Picard-YES-meme.jpg

[chin3se604]

lols @ the comments

and LOL @ the ending

[DanHibiki]

man this show just gets crazier and crazier. more and more plot twists are thrown in everyday it's nuts!

[SkinnyPupp]

This isn't really a spoiler, but I suggest to anyone who hasn't read the books to go back and watch the Walder Frey episodes, where Robb Stark promised to marry his daughter to gain passage.

He needs his help again, but married someone else, and in the last episode they didn't really play up the consequences very well.. he was like "we need them but err I was supposed to marry his daughter lol oops"

You should know what kind of person Walder Frey is, so go back and watch that episode to remind yourself :)

[SkinnyPupp]

Also: SitBack -alpha- (http://justsitback.deviantart.com/?rssQuery=gallery%3ADalisaAnja%2F31319002&s=8%2C3%2C0)

[Hondaracer]

Also: SitBack -alpha- (http://justsitback.deviantart.com/?rssQuery=gallery%3ADalisaAnja%2F31319002&s=8%2C3%2C0)

reminds me of Baulders Gate avatars lol

[DanHibiki]

other than maybe sansa, i enjoy all the other characters and stories in this show.

unlike the walking dead...

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't really like Robb Stark tbh... The rest I like. Favourites right now are Brienne and of course Tywin. I used to like Arya but not so much anymore. I am partway through book 4 and her parts haven't been that interesting anymore. But of course that can change any time!

[Chronix]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p480x480/563689_10151551354405546_710949880_n.jpg

[ShanghaiKid]

other than maybe sansa, i enjoy all the other characters and stories in this show.

unlike the walking dead...

http://i.imgur.com/5gUofj6.jpg

... do you like her now?:pokerface:

[Hondaracer]

My dad and brother thought that Stannis's daughter stuck out like a sore thumb in her acting but I didnt really notice
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[Lomac]

I don't really like Robb Stark tbh... The rest I like. Favourites right now are Brienne and of course Tywin. I used to like Arya but not so much anymore. I am partway through book 4 and her parts haven't been that interesting anymore. But of course that can change any time!

Yeah, Robb Stark's storyline grew a little too boring for me...

Book Spoiler

Well, until the Red Wedding, at least. :p

Dany, Jon Snow and Stannis are the three main characters in the later books I look forward to. I, too, used to enjoy Arya's part but not much has happened lately.

Actually the one I dislike the most, which unfortunately means will probably play the biggest role later on in the series, is Bran's storyline. It's too boring and even in a world where "magic" and "gods" are kinda live, it just seems like a bit of a stretch. The whole Warg bit in the book annoys me a little bit.

[SkinnyPupp]

I like the warg stuff in principle, but it gets pretty repetitive...

[FerrariEnzo]

more Daenerys Targaryen... less of everyone else... :fuckyea:

[Ronin]

I have to say...the storylines are WAY more interesting in the book. The details are lost in the show.

And you lose some cool reveals, like Barristen Selmy and Theon Greyjoy. Those were sort of WWWTTTTTFFFFF moments in the book. Not huge moments but I thought they were interesting.

I guess they're not spoilers anymore...

Barristen the Bold grows a beard and hides his identity at first until way later. Theon...well, shit happens.

[Lomac]

I thought I remembered that the shit happening to Theon doesn't really happen until book 3 or 4? And that's at the hands of, well... guess I shouldn't say yet as it hasn't been revealed in the tv show yet. Or am I simply remembering incorrectly?

[FerrariEnzo]

I have to say...the storylines are WAY more interesting in the book. The details are lost in the show.

All movies that are books originally are never as good/detailed... Theres so much you write in detail in books then you can act out in movies.. Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc...

[LiquidTurbo]

Anyone who reads the books, please don't spoiler anything in here.

This place should be TV spoiler friendly since we assume nearly everyone watches the show, but NOT for the books..

[DanHibiki]

Maybe we should do what we did with the walking dead and have two seperate threads for book readers and non-book readers

[SkinnyPupp]

Maybe we should do what we did with the walking dead and have two seperate threads for book readers and non-book readers
I agree, and when you use spoiler tags you need to note what book you are spoiling, because even readers aren't all caught up

[hotshot1]

I've been watching this chick comicbookgirl19 on YouTube explain some background on the series. She's made 3 parts so far, they're pretty good.

Game of Thrones EPIC HISTORY: The Targaryens - YouTube

Game of Thrones: Epic History: LANNISTERS: p1/2 Tytos and Tywin - YouTube

Game of Thrones: Epic History: LANNISTERS. p2/2. Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion & Joffrey Baratheon - YouTube

[DanHibiki]

^lol I literally saw that a minute ago. I subscribed to her too
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[SkinnyPupp]

omg she's awesome!

[rsx]

was very skeptical about this chick. I thought she was going to be some "i'm geek chic, here's some cleavage for you nerds" type. But I thoroughly enjoyed it!

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah usually I hate "youtube personalities" (which is weird because I plan on having my own show) but she seems authentic.. I guess that's the key, and something I will make sure to do as well when I start :D

[DanHibiki]

If u like authentic girl comic book nerds you should check out grace from beyondtheink. Chick's legit.
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[LiquidTurbo]

Awesome awesome analysis by that chick. Very nicely done.

[MarkyMark]

Yeah I enjoyed those, as someone who hasn't read the books it's cleared up a lot of stuff for me.

[Ronin]

YAY

I've always thought that when they're talking about Robert's Rebellion and other shit in the past "...dude, that sounds AMAZING! WHY ISN'T THIS BOOK ABOUT THAT?!"

And if I'm going to be told that story, it might as well be by a girl with nice boobs.

[nns]

Can someone tell me why Sansa was crying at the end?

[ShadowBun]

lol little finger evolved into middle finger!

[radioman]

Can someone tell me why Sansa was crying at the end?

I would assume that it was her future "husband" leaving on the boat to high garden without her????

[FARMER]

I would assume that it was her future "husband" leaving on the boat to high garden without her????

This. She wanted to get away from Kings Landing and away from the Lannisters and marrying was her only out. She's crying also because she's to marry Tyrion instead (the dwarf Lannister).

[ScizzMoney]

Sword swallower made me laugh. Love that old woman.

[Culverin]

Wow.

While this episode barely has any content from the books, what it does is carry the same weight and foreboding the books do.
Plus, if you know what's coming, sets it up so well.
:megusta:

[Hondaracer]

This. She wanted to get away from Kings Landing and away from the Lannisters and marrying was her only out. She's crying also because she's to marry Tyrion instead (the dwarf Lannister).

The banner on the sail of that boat sailing away looked like it was a sparrow, so I'm assuming that was little fingers boat?

She found out marrying tyrion, cersei marrying loras, and little finger leaving without taking her?
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[604STIG]

The banner on the sail of that boat sailing away looked like it was a sparrow, so I'm assuming that was little fingers boat?

She found out marrying tyrion, cersei marrying loras, and little finger leaving without taking her?
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She told Little finger she would not leave with him, but that was before she knew about all the new marriage plans.

[FARMER]

The banner on the sail of that boat sailing away looked like it was a sparrow, so I'm assuming that was little fingers boat?

She found out marrying tyrion, cersei marrying loras, and little finger leaving without taking her?
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IRRC the boat was carrying Loras Tyrell (the homosexual prince) and the boat scene is to dramatize Sansa's lost chance of escaping the evil clutches of the Lanisters.

IRRC Littlefinger was still in King's Landing at the end of the episode (bickering with the eunuch).

[Hondaracer]

looks like the mocking jay sigil:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/5DEE4C31-1379-45AB-8D27-6AA9F305F33D-2583-00000108ABC3D3AD_zps111949b6.jpg?t=1367888178

iirc Loras is still in kings landing and she was crying because she turned down little finger before and now she's stuck with Tyrion

[hal0g0dv2]

SNL 'Game of Game of Thrones' skit | zach galifianakis | Saturday night live - YouTube

[FerrariEnzo]

I was a little disappointed with this episode.. NOT a single scene with Daenerys Targaryen... :rukidding:

[Marshall Placid]

I was a little disappointed with this episode.. NOT a single scene with Daenerys Targaryen... :rukidding:

Sorry to burst your bubble... but... based on the books, there isn't much on her after she gets the Unsullied.

[Marshall Placid]

This. She wanted to get away from Kings Landing and away from the Lannisters and marrying was her only out. She's crying also because she's to marry Tyrion instead (the dwarf Lannister).

Hmm...

What's worse?

Strictly speaking, based on the Fantasy realm (not in the real world).

Marrying an intelligent dwarf?

Or... marrying a known homosexual?

[SkinnyPupp]

Hmm...

What's worse?

Strictly speaking, based on the Fantasy realm (not in the real world).

Marrying an intelligent dwarf?

Or... marrying a known homosexual?
Tyrion is despised by the entire realm but Jaime and Shae.

[ShadowBun]

well if she doesn't love either, I guess homo is good

[Marshall Placid]

Aha... but she does not know Lord/Sir Tyrell is a homosexual.

[Ch28]

Aha... but she does not know Lord/Sir Tyrell is a homosexual.

It's implied that everyone knows about it, but doesn't speak of it. Same deal with Cersei/Jaime. You can tell from the conversation between Tywin & Lady Olenna.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's implied that everyone knows about it, but doesn't speak of it. Same deal with Cersei/Jaime. You can tell from the conversation between Tywin & Lady Olenna.
Sansa is pretty clueless though. I don't think she knew, or if she did, she just blocked it from her mind

[Ronin]

It's implied that the people of importance and power know. Loris is heir to one of the richest areas of Westeros. The people that know he's gay are other people in the loop and, like that squire dude, other gays with good gaydar. I highly doubt the common people know about his homosexuality. Women everywhere love the guy. If jousting was the big sport of the time, this guy was LeBron.

The way I understood it was that the other "players" in the "Game of Thrones" know, just like they always seem to know everything.

[DanHibiki]

I really hope to see some of the stark family find get back together again. been too long.

[Hakkaboy]

Quick question, but how can they force Sansa to marry Tyrion?

I understand about Joffrey, since there was an agreement among the parents and an "oath", but how does it work now?

[Ronin]

Sansa's technically a prisoner?

[SoNaRWaVe]

ever since sansa has been in king's landing, she's pretty much doing everything the lannisters says just cause she knows her life is in danger.

[Hondaracer]

As far as she knows rob and cat are the only two left anyways
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[Matlock]

I believe that marriages have to be "consummated" in the world of ASOIAF.

They have to have sex regardless of whether it's consensual or not.

[DanHibiki]

She had two chances to leave kings landing and she refused both *sigh*

She would be with arya by now if she had left with the dog
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[sekin67835]

She had two chances to leave kings landing and she refused both *sigh*

She would be with arya by now if she had left with the dog
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One does not simply trust the dog
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[jonwon]

one does not simply refer to the hound as the dog

[SkinnyPupp]

I really hope to see some of the stark family find get back together again. been too long.
yup.

[fs604]

Oona Chaplin lying on the bed naked :megusta:

[radioman]

that was a great episode.

Dragons getting big.

I loved the ending.

[Hondaracer]

Dragons and the bear looked freakin bad ass

Although in the books pretty sure a one handed Jamie kills the bear
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[Sir_Loin]

Theon got cockblocked lol.

[nabs]

Theon got cockchopped lol.

fixed.

[Marshall Placid]

It was a good episode today.

But, it looks like the action is slowing down, so the plot is compressed, in order for HBO to make MORE episodes and MORE seasons.

I've read they want to make a total of 10 seasons.

I don't think there is enough material to do 10 seasons.

4 or 5 seasons yes, but 10 no.

[ShadowBun]

probably why there will be new materials just for the show
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[SB7]

I think it will end up being 8 seasons

[chin3se604]

Tywin climbing the steps and showing Joffery who's boss :fullofwin:

[FARMER]

For those who have read the books, what's the story behind the guy torturing Theon Grajoy? And why does he seem to reap so much pleasure in torturing him?

[kwy]

^the guys name is..

Ramsay Snow

you can google the rest.

[Marshall Placid]

Tywin climbing the steps and showing Joffery who's boss :fullofwin:


Yes, I like that scene.

It was like Tywin trying to assert his authority, but not asserting it too obviously as to allow Joffrey to call the Kingsguard on him.

Tywin was perfect in dancing around this "border" of assertion and not going overboard and making Joffrey call the Kingsguard on him.

[DanHibiki]

oh god i really hope the torturing of theon stops next episode. can't take much more of it

[Hondaracer]

Boltons sigil is the "flayed man" Ramsey snow is boltons bastard son who obviously likes flaying lol :s
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[G-spec]

I think his cock has suffered enough from gettin dry humped hard by that broad while in those rough ancient material linen pants on, probably has like 3rd degree burns from that shit, no need to cut it off

[DanHibiki]

I coulda sworn when the torturer brought Theon back, his dad was shown in the background. It was some old bald guy with long, grey side hair.
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[Culverin]

It was a good episode today.

But, it looks like the action is slowing down, so the plot is compressed, in order for HBO to make MORE episodes and MORE seasons.

I've read they want to make a total of 10 seasons.

I don't think there is enough material to do 10 seasons.

4 or 5 seasons yes, but 10 no.

I actually disagree with you there.
To me, the show actually feels quite compressed compared to the books. Lots is being left out.

The books easily have enough content to be 2 seasons per book.
But I think budgeting is the issue.
They just don't have the budget to show that many battles, that many fights and that much awesome.


Robb on the battlefield with Grey Wind is skipped.
Arya escaping from Harrenhal would have been epic.
But was never filmed.

I think content in the show is added to bring some emotion to the viewer.
Edmure isn't such a prat.
Jeyne doesn't play such a big part.

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup the series is really simplified compared to the book... to the point where some of the storylines are really dumbed down. Also some pretty awesome characters are missing (particularly Strong Belwas)

[rsx]

I would agree with the rest. I haven't read the books, but already the tv series seems simplified and the universe has an entire history of awesome stories. The history of the targaryens could easily be a season.

[Culverin]

The history of this world is ridiculous.
The Tagaryen story and the Doom of Old Valyria itself could easily be 2 complete series if George R.R. Martin would fill it out.
The simple idea of leaving Old Valyria and the conquest of Westeros could be amazing.

Imagine a story about Brandon the Builder. I would watch that.



Speaking of Targaryen.
Possible spoilers?
And dat cleavage.:notbad:


Game of Thrones EPIC HISTORY: The Targaryens - YouTube

[Hondaracer]

She looks nasty there
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[KingDeeCee]

Game Of Thrones Impressions II by Steve Love - YouTube!

[chin3se604]

:haha: @ Sansa impression

[Foralark]

Somebody made the Iron Throne from those little green sticks you get at Starbucks...:notbad:

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/archive/storage/images/media/images/2008/0415/starbucks-to-distribute-billions-of-little-plastic-sticks/picture1.jpg/5253724-1-eng-US/picture1.jpg_full_600.jpg

[FARMER]

what's the story behind the guy torturing Theon Grajoy? And why does he seem to reap so much pleasure in torturing him?

For those interested, the torturer is the son of Roose Bolton who is one of Robb Starks generals. When Winterfell was captured by Theon, Roose Bolton sent his son, Ramsay (the torturer) along with some men to retake the castle. When Theon's soldiers desert him, Ramsay takes Theon prisoner and starts to torture him. Ramsay's (assumed) motive is that his family is allied to the Starks and he is holding Theon as prisoner as a favour for the Starks.

Ramsay's importance in The Game Of Thrones intensifies as the story progresses. :D

[DanHibiki]

^ I didn't read that except the first sentence and I think I just spoiled it for myself.

Can someone tell me if this guy just posted a book spoiler? I'm gonna be mad!
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[Hondaracer]

^ I didn't read that except the first sentence and I think I just spoiled it for myself.

Can someone tell me if this guy just posted a book spoiler? I'm gonna be mad!
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dont think anything in that post revealed anything that hasnt been in the series yet

Roose Bolton mentioned earlier in the show that his Bastard would deal with Theon at winterfell

[Matlock]

^For non-book readers... He as of yet is only known as "boy" as of yet and his true identity has yet to have been revealed.

[SkinnyPupp]

For those interested, the torturer is the son of Roose Bolton who is one of Robb Starks generals. When Winterfell was captured by Theon, Roose Bolton sent his son, Ramsay (the torturer) along with some men to retake the castle. When Theon's soldiers desert him, Ramsay takes Theon prisoner and starts to torture him. Ramsay's (assumed) motive is that his family is allied to the Starks and he is holding Theon as prisoner as a favour for the Starks.

Ramsay's importance in The Game Of Thrones intensifies as the story progresses. :D
Why are people failing this? It's a good non-tv-spoiler explanation of Theon's situation.

[DanHibiki]

We really need two threads :rukidding:

[SkinnyPupp]

We really need two threads :rukidding:
You're the one who asked! :rukidding:

[FARMER]

^For non-book readers... He as of yet is only known as "boy" as of yet and his true identity has yet to have been revealed.

So I got all those fails for attempting to clarifying things that ALREADY TOOK PLACE IN THE SERIES? Wow. General Bolton stated loud and clear [in Robb's tent] that HIS BASTARD SON WOULD TAKE BACK WINTERFELL, and Robb Stark ordered Bolton that every Ironborn could return home unharmed except Theon, that THEON IS TO BE TAKEN ALIVE. The Ironborn left, who else could have Theon? Oh it must have been some random stranger out of the blue who just happens to stumble into Winterfell right after the Ironborns leave, randomly kidnaps Theon and then proceeds to torture him. :rukidding:

Also, it's glaringly obvious that the storyline between Theon and his torturer is being built up to some kind of climax LOL.

[Ronin]

I don't think any of this happens during book 3 (which we're on right now in season 3 and will be for season 4). IIRC, dude takes back Winterfel but everyone thinks Theon is dead for a whole book or two before we find out he's alive. That's the reveal in the book.

The reveal on the show, because they can't just not have Theon on the show for a year or whatever for some reason, is that the guy is the Bastard of Bolton, Ramsay Snow, but what the fuck that's a stupid reveal because as FARMER pointed out above, you can sort of figure that shit out if you paid attention.

I don't think of anything said as a spoiler unless you're ONLY reading the books, not watching the show and you're not there yet...and there are probably not that many of you.

The buildup is to a different event involving Theon, I'm sure.

[SkinnyPupp]

So I got all those fails for attempting to clarifying things that ALREADY TOOK PLACE IN THE SERIES? Wow. General Bolton stated loud and clear [in Robb's tent] that HIS BASTARD SON WOULD TAKE BACK WINTERFELL, and Robb Stark ordered Bolton that every Ironborn could return home unharmed except Theon, that THEON IS TO BE TAKEN ALIVE. The Ironborn left, who else could have Theon? Oh it must have been some random stranger out of the blue who just happens to stumble into Winterfell right after the Ironborns leave, randomly kidnaps Theon and then proceeds to torture him. :rukidding:

Also, it's glaringly obvious that the storyline between Theon and his torturer is being built up to some kind of climax LOL.
Wow did you have to act like such a cunt explaining yourself?

[DanHibiki]

You're the one who asked! :rukidding:

ya well im too lazy to make one so :rukidding:

[Culverin]

Farmer is right.

In the books, we don't find out about Theon until much later (book 4?).
To me, that was a holy crap moment and I had to read that page twice.


But in the show, they made it much easier to follow, but kept a bit of mystery there in the form of who is his captor.
The depth of how messed up this whole ordeal is actually implicit in the books. You know some serious stuff went down because you get into Theon's head, but just barely.
George RR Martin never actually gets into the gory details unlike the show.
But the end result is very clear, Theon gets a skull-f*cking 2 ways from Sunday. It's so bad that I felt Theon Turncloak deserved some mercy.


They are showing some of the gory bits on the show.
But are they seriously going to illustrate him getting broken down for the next 2 seasons?



Side note.
I can't wait until we meet the Sand Snakes.
***RAWR***
:ifyouknow:

[Hondaracer]

Reg sand snakes:

cant wait for the battle between the viper and the mountain, that's going to be epicly gory/awsome
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[SkinnyPupp]

Reg sand snakes:

cant wait for the battle between the viper and the mountain, that's going to be epicly gory/awsome
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Oh man I forgot about that, read it quite a while ago.. so epic, can't wait to see :fullofwin:

[Matlock]

So I got all those fails for attempting to clarifying things that ALREADY TOOK PLACE IN THE SERIES? Wow. General Bolton stated loud and clear [in Robb's tent] that HIS BASTARD SON WOULD TAKE BACK WINTERFELL, and Robb Stark ordered Bolton that every Ironborn could return home unharmed except Theon, that THEON IS TO BE TAKEN ALIVE. The Ironborn left, who else could have Theon? Oh it must have been some random stranger out of the blue who just happens to stumble into Winterfell right after the Ironborns leave, randomly kidnaps Theon and then proceeds to torture him. :rukidding:

Also, it's glaringly obvious that the storyline between Theon and his torturer is being built up to some kind of climax LOL.

Sorry I removed my fail. I spend to much time on reddit and sometimes look out for stuff thats not spoilered.

Can't wait until Jeyne Pool gets added to that mess. Even though there is no Jeyne Pool in the show.

[jonwon]

EDIT: BIGGEST SPOILER IN THE HISTORY OF SPOILERS. DON'T CLICK. SERIOUS. - Ronin

i was browsing through a forum that is completely unrelated to GOT and suddenly some phag posted this out of nowhere...

GAME OF THRONES: Robb gets betrayed and killed at Red Wedding. Joffrey is poisoned and killed at wedding by littlefinger. Tyrion kills his dad.

thus leading me to google the red wedding and confirm everything fml.

[Hondaracer]

Yea that will pretty much ruin it for you lol

Also one part of that spoiler tag is not correct I think unless I glossed over that..

little finger wasnt the one who poisons Joffrey
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[Culverin]

And technically, Osama didn't blow up the WTC.

[Sir_Loin]

Khalessi boobies

[ShadowBun]

Even in the fantasy world, women can use their bodies as their advantage lol

[Ch28]

FYI - Roose Bolten is the one that greeted Jaime & Brienne of Tarth @ Harrenhal

[Hondaracer]

And technically, Osama didn't blow up the WTC.

If i remember correctly its the Tyrell grandmother who poisons Joff

i'm really hoping all that happens in this seaosn.

[2 n r]

BEWBIESSS

[FARMER]

I totally didn't expect Tywin to allow Joffrey to embarrass Tyrion like he did, Tyrion being a Lannister and all.

[Ch28]

Shouldn't come across as a surprise, cause Tywin absolutely hates Tyrion. He blames him for his mother's death.

Anyone else pissed off that Samwell left the dragonglass dagger?

[FARMER]

Tywin loathes Tyrion but he prides the Lannister legacy above all else and to embarrass Tyrion in such a public manner is akin to shitting on the Lannister banner :D

[kwy]

Yeah shouldve picked the dagger back up. Shit was intense tonight though

[chin3se604]

another epic ending !

[Ronin]

DAAAAAAAMN

DAT KHALEESI ASS

[FishTaco]

Why is that whenever i see "game of thrones", i imagine what the show would be like if it were called "game of bones". fuck im weird.

[Culverin]

God's wood, red leaves, face carved.

Weakness of castle forged steel vs the wights.

Holy shit @ Tyrion: "and so my watch begins"
Reference to the Night's Watch induction ceremony oath.


The show deviates so much from the book, but still completely crafts the world correctly and the characters ring so true. The feel of the culture and customs feels so legit.



I can't wait to see what Valyrian steel does to a wight.



I totally love this show.

[DanHibiki]

If i remember correctly its the Tyrell grandmother who poisons Joff

i'm really hoping all that happens in this seaosn.

FUCK I CLICKED ON THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPOILER RELATED TO THE SHOW AND NOT THE BOOK








FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[DanHibiki]

also Melisandra was looking mighty fine and butt naked mmmm

[spoon.ek9]

yeah i was pretty much yelling at sam to pick up the damn blade :lol

also, i think spoilers should be labelled if they contain content that HASN'T yet occurred in the show thus far. that one up there ruined something for me :/

[DanHibiki]

Ok okay. I'm gonna make a new thread for non book readers when I get home.
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[6793026]

thank you game of thrones, last episode was so good

[ScizzMoney]

FUCK I CLICKED ON THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPOILER RELATED TO THE SHOW AND NOT THE BOOK...

:ohgodwhy:

Wish I read your post before doing exactly what you just did.

Non labeled spoilers suck.

[Hondaracer]

Sorry guys
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[SkinnyPupp]

Yes it's pretty stupid to post a spoiler from last night's show, unlabeled, then post a major book spoiler, also unlabeled.

Let's have a new rule:

All BOOK spoilers MUST be labeled.

You MUST label which book it is spoiling. To keep things simple, use "Book 1" or "Book 2" etc. If you forget, at least try to explain if the show will be spoiled or not as of the latest episode. We'll start off with more of a 'common sense' protocol than rather than having strict verbiage.

Spoiler tags are not necessary for the TV show. If you come into this thread without having watched the latest episode, it's your own damn fault. This prevents confusion - if you see a spoiler tag, assume that it is from a book, 100%. If it is labeled, you can decide whether you want to read it. If it is not labeled, report the post and we'll edit and give points.

[Ronin]

You jerks are lucky I read this thread. I add quite a few spoiler tags or just delete + ban but it didn't occur to me that was a huge spoiler for people that aren't that far in the books.

Seriously, that one with the red up top...holy fuck, you guys would've gone fucking nuclear if you saw that shit.

We've gone with zero tolerance with spoilers in the past...might be time to go back to nazi modding.

[chin3se604]

yea, you're just asking for it if you come to this thread without watching the latest episode on the Sunday

only 2 more eps left :tears:

[Jmac]

Sansa is 14?

Fuck, I'm going to jail ...

[StylinRed]

haven't watched this show yet about to start though got the blu-rays for the first two seasons

Craig Ferguson keeps talking about it on his show (even though he's never watched it before too supposedly) because he's hoping to get a role on it (or he's jk)

anyway Craig Ferguson has David Benioff on his show tonight for those interested where he talks about how he already has another book plotted but doesn't have any time at all to write it


Sansa is 14?

Fuck, I'm going to jail ...

the actress that plays her is 17

edit: that pic was of an australian model ;) lol

[DanHibiki]

How much actual screen time does each person get?

I just realized that despite the season being 10 EPA, theon probably only has like 30 minutes total of screen time and it was all spent in the torture room.

He probably took less than a week to film it all and he's done for the year b
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[Nlkko]

hello khaleesi :jerkit:

[Lowered_Klass]

I thought the whore that was sitting in one of the 3 Captians lap was gorgeous. (The Second Sons)

I did a quick search but didn't find anything on her. There HAS to be more of her somewhere! lol :drool

[FerrariEnzo]

Tits on Daenerys Targaryen... :megusta:

[Ronin]

It's hard to fit all the characters into an episode with all that goes on in book 3. Book 3 really is the climax of the first arc of the book...they could've possibly split it into 3 seasons even. I don't know why they bothered to put Theon in this season...they could've cut him out and revealed that he's still alive a season later and it would've been brilliant.

[Hondaracer]

Spoiler regarding future episodes/book 4/theon

If they left out all the Theon torture stuff i dont think most people would have kind of "got" what theon turns out to be

[G-spec]

whats the deal with the black obsideon dagger that fatty used to kill the vanilla ice ?
made by the first men from what they said in the show....
i dont read the books, but I'm assuming it was something the first men figured out works against the icemen and I assume that knowledge was lost in time.... and I also assume fatty is too stupid to put the pieces together because that would be a big advantage to the rest of the world behind the wall when the icemen decide to attack....

getting their hands on that material to make more weapons for the ice zombie pocalypse

[Nlkko]

^I don't read the book either but I think the Night Watch knows about the dragonglass. That's why they defeat the White Walkers I think.

Although I think fatty dropped the dagger and run after accidentally killing the White Walker.

[StylinRed]

didn't think i would really like the show but i gave it a shot anyway the other day

and im up to episode 8 of season 1 already :lol:

Im starting to wish there were more seasons so that I wouldn't get caught up so soon

[CPE]

Can't wait for episode 9! Always the best episode of the season.

[Matlock]

In the book the dagger shatters once used. I don't get why they didn't do that in the show. Now Sam just looks like a moron who dropped his torch, sword, and dagger.

[FARMER]

I don't get why everyone is up in arms about Sam dropping the obsidian dagger. Sam is not a warrior and he was scared out of his wits so he GTFO lol. Also, it's obvious that later he will recount his story to the Watch and they'll "figure out" that obsidian weapons can be used against the White Walkers.

[Ronin]

In the book the dagger shatters once used. I don't get why they didn't do that in the show. Now Sam just looks like a moron who dropped his torch, sword, and dagger.

Really? I don't remember that happening. I thought he kept it on him at all times.

[Culverin]

So for those of you wondering about the dagger, you have to think about the setting for the books/show.
Westeros doesn't have communication tech. They send short messages by raven and even that is unreliable at times.
It is before the printing press so copies of books are written by scribes and there isn't a good number of them out there. Knowledge is not common.

In fact, unless you were raised by a noble family with money, you are illiterate. This is why you see Davos Seaworth learning to read.
This is the same reason you hope to gain favor with an noble house so your child can become a squire. Again, I point to Davos, a low born, who saved Stanis with his onions to become the Onion Knight, so the son of a knight can become a squire. That's why Davos' boys are literate and he is still not.


Now consider all that, PLUS it is a world where magic, grumpkins, dragons and wights have become extinct. Almost nobody remembers the true purpose of the wall, it was built to keep out the Wights and Others. In the time of the books, this has been long forgotten and people think the Wall is to keep out the Wildlings. This is why the Night's Watch is really only running on tradition and explains why only 3 of 19 Castles are manned, why they have few people and no resources.

So if they can forget about why The Wall was built, they can surely have forgotten about Dragonglass and it's usage.
In the book, Sam spends time in the library away from his brother and reads a lot. He was tasked with finding out about the others, and he had to dig through the archives to find the info. This is how we were introduced to the Dragonglass. It is that forgotten in a world where information and knowledge is already scarce.


:fuckyea:
Any questions boys and girls?

[StylinRed]

wooot just finished season 1... can't believe they got rid of boromir so soon

[sam0m0]

Just watched all 3 seasons in 4 days, can't wait for the next episode!

[SkinnyPupp]

Sansa is 14?

Fuck, I'm going to jail ...
To be fair, 14 in the world of ASOIF is something like 24 in our world :fuckthatshit:

[StylinRed]

What happened to Arya's wolf? I know she told it to run to protect it but I had thought it would stick close by or go back to Winterfell or something given the close rapport that they all have with their wolves
And her sword, needle, I thought she'd get it back given the attention towards it
does the book give any info? or should i just keep watching and will get an answer? (already into season 3)


There are some other questions that I thought I would keep until I fully caught up but I keep forgetting them that's why Im asking about those few now before I forget them as well ;)

[DanHibiki]

I hope her wolf finds his way back to her and saves her or something

[Culverin]

I hope her wolf finds his way back to her and saves her or something

I'm halfway through Dance with Dragons (the latest book) and it seems like that's not going to happen.

More spoilers if you want analysis and some details.

Martin has seem to write the Wolves as a companion to each character, it seems like the characters that follow the Stark path, northern traditions and honor, the character get to keep their Wolves. I think in some ways, he is using the presence of the Dire Wolves as the straight, honorable and Stark path that Ned tried to train into his children.
Rob has his, a loyal companion until the Red Wedding
Sansa lost hers early, right after the Joffrey/butcher boy incident. Like when she lost honor.
Arya lost hers the time she got sucked into Kings Landing and the Game of Thrones and political intrigue. Too early to bond with the Wolf I think? Later she's off on her own very un-Stark-like path. And we here rumors about a great She-wolf leading an enormous pack. readers are left questioning whether this is Nymeria.
Bran, led Winterfell, so he still as his. (not sure what will happen in the later half of this book).
Rickon, not sure how this one is going to turn out. There are no Rickon chapters.
Jon Snow, still on his path of honor and righteousness. Ghost with him often.
So that's my analysis. If Stark-y and honor, you get Wolf. If not, you don't.
If super-Stark-y, then Red Wedding.

[SkinnyPupp]

Almost getting to the end of Book 4...

Fuck.

[DanHibiki]

I'm halfway through Dance with Dragons (the latest book) and it seems like that's not going to happen.

More spoilers if you want analysis and some details.

Martin has seem to write the Wolves as a companion to each character, it seems like the characters that follow the Stark path, northern traditions and honor, the character get to keep their Wolves. I think in some ways, he is using the presence of the Dire Wolves as the straight, honorable and Stark path that Ned tried to train into his children.
Rob has his, a loyal companion until the Red Wedding
Sansa lost hers early, right after the Joffrey/butcher boy incident. Like when she lost honor.
Arya lost hers the time she got sucked into Kings Landing and the Game of Thrones and political intrigue. Too early to bond with the Wolf I think? Later she's off on her own very un-Stark-like path. And we here rumors about a great She-wolf leading an enormous pack. readers are left questioning whether this is Nymeria.
Bran, led Winterfell, so he still as his. (not sure what will happen in the later half of this book).
Rickon, not sure how this one is going to turn out. There are no Rickon chapters.
Jon Snow, still on his path of honor and righteousness. Ghost with him often.
So that's my analysis. If Stark-y and honor, you get Wolf. If not, you don't.
If super-Stark-y, then Red Wedding.



Is this a book or show spoiler. I don't trust clicking on these spoiler tags just yet.
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[ScizzMoney]

^
looks to be book

[DanHibiki]

Aren't they supposed to be labelled
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[SkinnyPupp]

:rukidding: Yes, points given...

I don't want to look myself because I have no clue what's going on with the direwolves, and I am near the end of book 4. So it is going to be a very late spoiler, whatever it is.

[Foralark]

...for those who don't know, there isn't a new episode this week.

Episode 9 will air next week (June 2nd), not tonight.

[DanHibiki]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I was all excited when I woke up today :(
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[Tim Budong]

the worst part... it REALLY picks up from here...according to spoilers..
next week seems so far away

[spoon.ek9]

i was just about to ask about ep 9 :lol

[G-spec]

So for those of you wondering about the dagger, you have to think about the setting for the books/show.
Westeros doesn't have communication tech. They send short messages by raven and even that is unreliable at times.
It is before the printing press so copies of books are written by scribes and there isn't a good number of them out there. Knowledge is not common.

In fact, unless you were raised by a noble family with money, you are illiterate. This is why you see Davos Seaworth learning to read.
This is the same reason you hope to gain favor with an noble house so your child can become a squire. Again, I point to Davos, a low born, who saved Stanis with his onions to become the Onion Knight, so the son of a knight can become a squire. That's why Davos' boys are literate and he is still not.


Now consider all that, PLUS it is a world where magic, grumpkins, dragons and wights have become extinct. Almost nobody remembers the true purpose of the wall, it was built to keep out the Wights and Others. In the time of the books, this has been long forgotten and people think the Wall is to keep out the Wildlings. This is why the Night's Watch is really only running on tradition and explains why only 3 of 19 Castles are manned, why they have few people and no resources.

So if they can forget about why The Wall was built, they can surely have forgotten about Dragonglass and it's usage.
In the book, Sam spends time in the library away from his brother and reads a lot. He was tasked with finding out about the others, and he had to dig through the archives to find the info. This is how we were introduced to the Dragonglass. It is that forgotten in a world where information and knowledge is already scarce.


:fuckyea:
Any questions boys and girls?



yea ok we know about the illiteracy and lack of knowledge factor in teh realms....
I was talking about the common sense factor, he must literally have none whatsoever..... he saw what happened to his big ole longsword soon as icy touched it, so Sam in turn then stabs him with a mysterious black dagger and the guy shatters the same way Sam's longsword did.... even a dumbasses first reaction should have been too look at the dagger and wonder what manner of boom stick they're holding in their fatty fat fingers

http://cf.mp-cdn.net/b5/a7/a0cea4c4f5c1dc6624adac0421c6.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Sam IS a blundering idiot, remember?

[StylinRed]

finally all caught up, was all excited expecting to see episode 9 last night but nooo memorial day weekend means everythings on repeat :okay:


i agree about sam i was thinking WTF why are they running not to mention leaving that weapon behind

sigh

[SkinnyPupp]

Just finished Feast for Crows, on to Dance with Dragons

Some epic shit happens, as you'd guess... also some total rage bait. Was about to finish reading the other day, then was like "oh the next chapter is my favourite character, guess I'll read one more"

:ohgodwhy:

[StylinRed]

just started looking into the books, damn i hope the author can finish the 7th! considering the time it takes him to get one out and his age and weight :/



the "whore" in episode 8 that was with the 3 mercenary leaders

Talitha Luke-Eardley

she's clothed but spoilered nonetheless
https://www.dancecastuk.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/paddedimage500500-talitha-fitness.jpghttp://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/talitha-luke-eardley-1.jpg

[Ch28]

just started looking into the books, damn i hope the author can finish the 7th! considering the time it takes him to get one out and his age and weight :/



the "whore" in episode 8 that was with the 3 mercenary leaders

Talitha Luke-Eardley

she's clothed but spoilered nonetheless
https://www.dancecastuk.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/paddedimage500500-talitha-fitness.jpghttp://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/talitha-luke-eardley-1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cFGPqoT.gif

[Marshall Placid]

just started looking into the books, damn i hope the author can finish the 7th! considering the time it takes him to get one out and his age and weight :/

Yeah... he takes a long time to write his books.

He likes to do book tours.

I am presuming he is in the deals to do a movie or searching for a partner, due to the success of LOTR.

[winson604]

Finally, House of Stark Part 1 of 2 is out. Credit goes to hotshot1 for recommended this chick to RS.

Epic History: House Stark. P1 of 2. Game of Thrones. - YouTube

[DanHibiki]

New ep tonight yeaaaaaaaa!!!

Sad that there's only 2 eps left :(
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[radioman]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FUCK!

[SkinnyPupp]

The Red Wedding was just as brutal as I had imagined :ahwow:

[ScizzMoney]

:denied:

[ryugeeh]

HOLY FUCK

[Maliuz]

About episode 9.

GRRM sends his regards.

[ScizzMoney]

^^
Afraid to click.

Label please.

[Maliuz]

nevermind

[Lomac]

Roslin Frey is cute :fullofwin:

Potential Storm of Swords book spoiler
I don't remember them killing Jeyne Westerling in the book, though. Thought she was another hostage like Edmure.

Episode did not disappoint, though.

[SkinnyPupp]

Remember the rules

SPOILER TAGS NOT ALLOWED FOR TV SHOW

BOOK SPOILERS MUST BE LABELED

This prevents confusion.

[ShadowBun]

I guess the moral of the story is use your brains to think, not your penis.

[SkinnyPupp]

Or your "heart" as he put it :)

[Ronin]

IS YOUR MIND FUCKING BLOWN?!

Also, I love silent credits. It adds so much drama for such a simple filmmaking move.

[Ronin]

Roslin Frey is cute :fullofwin:

Potential Storm of Swords book spoiler
I don't remember them killing Jeyne Westerling in the book, though. Thought she was another hostage like Edmure.

Episode did not disappoint, though.

Book 4 spoiler

I don't know if she was a hostage but she wasn't present at the wedding, I think. She was protected by the Blackfish and then eventually pardoned by the Iron Throne afterwards

And I thought so too. Roslin Frey looked hella cute...I thought all the Freys were supposed to be uggos.

-----------------------

ALL BOOK SPOILERS MUST BE LABELED! Come on, of all people you'd think 2 mods wouldn't be the first edits I'd have to make :seriously:

[Hondaracer]

great episode and next weeks should be too

[Ronin]

Oh do we have to say what book they're from? I labeled it as a book spoiler and forgot what book it was from anyways since it's not a very important plot point.

[SkinnyPupp]

Roslin was supposed to be the only attractive Frey in the book as well, IIRC.

Also in book 3, Jeyne wasn't at the wedding. Also in the TV show she wasn't even called Jeyne ;) In book 4:

Her mother gave her a miscarriage by potion, and tried to negotiate her off to the Lannisters. But Jaime let her go home instead as long as she did not marry within 2 years (because that could cause doubt about a potential son claiming the right to be king in the north

That spoiler is pretty safe to read, because the TV show character is dead anyway :) It just tells how they dealt with her character differently.

[Ronin]

Because I know dudes in here are gonna go look...

Roslin:

http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/images/assets_c/2012/11/Alexandradowling123-thumb-330x377-105074.jpg

Her name is Alexandra Dowling. Not very famous so there aren't many pictures.

[SkinnyPupp]

Oh do we have to say what book they're from? I labeled it as a book spoiler and forgot what book it was from anyways since it's not a very important plot point.
Yes, label them with which book it is from. Because some of us are ahead of the TV show in books, but still not caught up. I am about 1/5 through book 5 where Bran

BOOK 5 SPOILER

just met the 3 eyed raven and a child of the forest :ahwow:

[SkinnyPupp]

As a reminder:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLzN7p0CUAAiJFP.jpg

I got owned by this near the end of book 4

when Brienne was hanged by you-know-who :fuuuuu:

[Lomac]

As a reminder:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLzN7p0CUAAiJFP.jpg

I got owned by this near the end of book 4

when Brienne was hanged by you-know-who :fuuuuu:

Multi-book spoiler, including Book 5. ONLY READ IF YOU WANT TO BE SPOILED
The thing about GRRM is that even though he loves to kill off everyone, not all of them stay dead. Including a couple of important ones we all thought dead at one point.

[Ronin]

:badpokerface:

I was about to say the same thing.

[Tim Budong]

my mind was fucking blasted and I need a drink...or many...

[SkinnyPupp]

I was going to try to explain to non readers why the Red Wedding was pretty much the most despicable thing any character has done in ASOIF. There are certain things that are just known to be worse than anything else - killing your family members, sleeping with family members, etc. But the way it is written, killing a guest in your castle after they have eaten is pretty much the worst thing you can do. I came across this explanation which will save me some time.. CTRL+V

So, what was it that made the slaughter of King Robb, his mother, and men so especially reprehensible? The viewer got a subtle hint at this at the beginning of the episode, in the scene where Robb and his men shared "bread and salt" with Walder Frey (well return to that in a bit), and that was the invoking of the ancient custom of hospitality, "Guest Right"..
Guest Right, as I said is an ancient custom of gods and men (among all the religions of Westeros, not just the faith of the seven) dating back to the first men, that states if a guest shares food and drink under the roof of a host that the guest is offered protection by the host. Neither guest can harm host, nor host harm guest during the duration of the stay, and breaking of this custom of hospitality, as we saw tonight, is considered very egregious by all men and women of Westeros, and the person who violated "guest right" is considered accursed and loses any reputation they may have had... It's a big deal.. As I mentioned above, regardless of religion, regardless if you're a lowborn bastard, or the King himself, "Guest Right" is sacred. Walder Frey did not only commit a heinous act of treachery, but went far beyond that in the violating of "Guest Right"
Now, as I said above, Guest Right is automatically observed once the host shares his table with his guest, no matter what the meal or drink or who the host or guest is, but among the Lords and highborn families there are some traditional formalities associated with Guest Right. The first is what we saw in tonight's episode, Bread and Salt. Bread and Salt are traditionally presented to a guest in highborn circles as "officially" recognizing the custom of Guest Right, it may be presented to the guest and it may be requested by the guest, either way it is an official way to state among all parties that said law of hospitality is invoked. Guest Right ends when the guest takes their leave from the host, though there is some formality with that as well, traditionally the host will present his or her guests with "guest gifts" signifying that the custom Guest Right has ended, the guest usually also present the host with gifts as a tolkien of gratitude for protection while under the host's roof. Guest Right, can be denied if the host chooses, in Westerosi custom if a Lord bares naked steel across his lap when his guests arrive, it is a tolkien that Guest Right is being denied and they do not have "understood protection" while under his roof....
There have been a few examples of Guest Right being violated in the backstory of ASOIAF.. One example is that of the "Rat Cook of the Night Fort". The Rat Cook was a member of the Night's Watch when a King (prior to Aegon's Conquest) traveled to the Wall as a guest, the cook was wronged in some way by the king so the crow murdered the son of the king, and cooked the prince into a huge meat pie which he later fed to the guest King. Legend goes that the gods took such error with this that the cook was transformed into an enormous rat who could only ever eat his young.. A song about the Rat Cook is still sung around the seven Kingdoms as a reminder of the sacred law of Guest Right..
The second example that we've seen in which Guest Right was violated was when the men of the Night's Watch murdered Craster under his own roof, as we saw several episodes ago. This serves to remind that even though it was not "invoked" traditionally, it is still observed. There is a line in the books that didn't make it into the show that lends this credence. Mormont states that "There is no worse crime than murder at a host's dinner table" and that they're all accursed, another clear violation of guest right, and illustrates that, in this case, how the guests can be the ones who violate the observance.
And lastly is the example of what we saw tonight, the Red Wedding, all traditional observations were noted, bread and salt were exchanged and offered. (Though in the books Walder, was reluctant to give it to them when Robb and his banner-men arrived at the Twins) And Walder by murdering the King in the North, his mother, and his host has committed one of the most vile acts the people in Westeros can think of.
I hope you enjoyed this, and are a bit more enlightened on the subject of Guest Right, and why it is so vile that it was violated on tonight's episode.. Thanks to both Tower of the Hand, and Wiki of Ice and Fire for some of the finer details... until next week, happy... uh... nothing's ever going to be happy again. Have a week!

[van_city23]

wow, today's epi.. wow

[Tim Budong]

reactions on twitter and reddit...shittttt

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9098/blzqgwzcmaafeo.jpg

[SB7]

Going to watch the episode now... I remember reading the book a few years ago and i've been replaying the scene in my imagination over and over. I wonder how it will stack up in today's episode.

[Ronin]

Keep in mind that the Freys aren't well regarded in the first place because...well...Walder is a dick.

I now understand why it takes so goddamn long to write these books. I don't know of anything else with such a richly imagined world. There's just so much and I don't even feel like we're reading the most epic parts of the story either. It's like we're just reading a totally normal era of time because the history of the ASOIAF world is so ridiculous. We don't even have fully grown dragons yet!

I mean, the War of the Five Kings sounds shitty compared to Aegon's Conquest and Robert's Rebelion. That shit was BAD ASS because everyone like Robert and Ned and the Dragon Prince and Jamie and whatever were all in their prime and being awesome. The start of GOT already had these dudes in retirement age and the most skilled warrior in the land is now...the Knight of Flowers...

[ShadowBun]

^ Knight of flowers?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTI5wZ3mplPUqbvyC1SdMRWhab1vdt48 VLpt6w0Nw24a1cpU6_5jA

[Tim Budong]

http://i.imgur.com/KKF8I7d.png

[wreck]

holy fuck.

[inv4zn]

fuck, what the hell. lol

[Porschedog]

HOLY FUCK SHIT JUST GOT REAL

[CPE]

What was that song that played right at the end? Catylnn knew something was up when it started playing...

[JayEch]

What was that song that played right at the end? Catylnn knew something was up when it started playing...

rains of castamere i think. Its about the story of tywin destroying a household that rebelled against his family

[kwy]

I need to sit down, and just..and just..

[Ch28]

Well done.

Well fucking done.

:bowdown:

[chin3se604]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/is-this-real-life.jpg

re-watched season 1 ep 1 of GoT after this episode for memory sakes

[Ronin]

rains of castamere i think. Its about the story of tywin destroying a household that rebelled against his family

This.

House Reyne was, if I remember, the second richest house in Westeros and rebelled against the Lannisters even though they were their bannermen...so they fucking killed them all and burned their shit.

What's even more amazing is that Roose Bolton noticed that Cat noticed...lol. He's like "Yep. You know what's about to happen..." and even shows her his chainmail.

It's like all the "players" have superhuman perception.

[SkinnyPupp]

Does anyone think Melissandre has powers to have kings killed? We've seen what she can do with king's splooge but what about king's blood?

Or is it all just trickery?

[Ch28]

Read this off IGN comments section

Prof_Grizwold • 37 minutes ago
OMG The North was defeated by a janitor at Hogwarts

:lol

[Marshall Placid]

Great episode on Sunday.

Wanted to have more scenes from the East, but oh well.

[ShadowBun]

Read this off IGN comments section

Prof_Grizwold • 37 minutes ago
OMG The North was defeated by a janitor at Hogwarts

:lol

Wizard > swords :smug:

[Ronin]

Greyworm is a bad motherfucker.

Does anyone think Melissandre has powers to have kings killed? We've seen what she can do with king's splooge but what about king's blood?

Or is it all just trickery?

I think it's real. We already saw her deal with Renley. And whatever her power, she know Thoros of Myr, who has the power to bring people back from the dead.

[SkinnyPupp]

Some folks might find it interesting that the drummer from the wedding

http://i.imgur.com/t55dQ1Q.png

was played by the drummer from Cold Play

I wouldn't know but I know Ronin at least is a big fan

[iwantaskyline]

Keep in mind that the Freys aren't well regarded in the first place because...well...Walder is a dick.

I now understand why it takes so goddamn long to write these books. I don't know of anything else with such a richly imagined world. There's just so much and I don't even feel like we're reading the most epic parts of the story either. It's like we're just reading a totally normal era of time because the history of the ASOIAF world is so ridiculous. We don't even have fully grown dragons yet!

I mean, the War of the Five Kings sounds shitty compared to Aegon's Conquest and Robert's Rebelion. That shit was BAD ASS because everyone like Robert and Ned and the Dragon Prince and Jamie and whatever were all in their prime and being awesome. The start of GOT already had these dudes in retirement age and the most skilled warrior in the land is now...the Knight of Flowers...

Um Jaime is like 30-33 in these books. During Robert's rebellion I believe he was still a teenager (16-18). He's not the most skilled fighter now only because of losing his right hand.

[kunoman1]

I don't even know..
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[Ch28]

"A Dothraki wedding without 3 killings is considered a dull affair."

"Pfffft amateurs" - Walder Frey

[Ronin]

Some folks might find it interesting that the drummer from the wedding

http://i.imgur.com/t55dQ1Q.png

was played by the drummer from Cold Play

I wouldn't know but I know Ronin at least is a big fan

I can barely tell white people apart. :troll:

Um Jaime is like 30-33 in these books. During Robert's rebellion I believe he was still a teenager (16-18). He's not the most skilled fighter now only because of losing his right hand.

People can be badasses at 18 in these books. Jaime was knighted on the battlefield at 15 for being awesome in combat.

[LUUUUUUUU]

http://i.imgur.com/sFM2r4r.png

[HonestTea]

What...the...FUCK?!

[DanHibiki]

Ok I used to always laugh at people who complain bout certain characters being killed off but fuck, I'm one of them now.

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!
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[rsx]

i know nothing.

wtf.

great episode.

[2 n r]

http://i.imgur.com/sFM2r4r.png

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[DanHibiki]

I thought the walking dead comic book had shocking moments but damn.

I'm so depressed right now. Never been this invested in a show before.
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[winson604]

Can't remember the last time that at the end of an episode for any TV show my mouth was open in shock and had that WTF just happened, did that just happen moment?!?!?!

[StylinRed]

OH COME FUCKING ON!!!! You gotta be fucking kidding me this author sucks im always a fan for killing the main characters or the "good" characters but COME ON at least give them some revenge points before they go down geeeeez

[badboy]

such a sadistic episode...

[gars]

Got this off Reddit

My reaction as a book reader watching the latest Game Of Thrones episode

http://i.imgur.com/5grUbNI.gif

[SB7]

http://i.imgur.com/VeHhIOM.jpg

[hotshot1]

Jesus, that was some good tv.