[Traum]

So if I make >$100k but wife makes significantly less, she should apply for the provincial rebate, and have her buy the car?
That's exactly how you'd want to do it.

I know the rebate cutoff is $55k, and with the Tesla price drop now, the TM3 RWD model should qualify for it. But does the gov need to add the car back to its approved list first? or does it automatically qualify once Tesla lowers the MSRP?

At $46k+tax after the rebate, I honestly think this is the best available new car deal right now -- EV or ICE considered. Unfortunately, I am in no position to jump on it in the foreseeable future even though I feel like my pos shxtbox is starting to not fit my needs...

Ugh...

[Badhobz]

Yes at 46k it ain’t bad at all. Is there a mod to fix that pig nosed grill ? I can’t stand how ugly it is.

[roastpuff]

Wow my friend is quite chapped now, he took delivery of his TM3 RWD in Nov.... oof.

[freakshow]

Wow my friend is quite chapped now, he took delivery of his TM3 RWD in Nov.... oof.

At least it wasn't a Plaid.. 26k drop..

[tegra7]

Used Teslas gonna take a big hit on pricing. Counted 17 at Abby VW:lol

[whitev70r]

In China, because of the significant overnight price drop.

https://twitter.com/williamlegate/status/1612466949681811456

[radeonboy]

^I would be angry too if I just took delivery of one before the price drop, but the notion of demanding refunds is ridiculous. Owners weren't coerced into buying these cars and this behavior shouts entitlement...

[BaoTurbo]

Wow my friend is quite chapped now, he took delivery of his TM3 RWD in Nov.... oof.

I took in Oct 2022. Thanks Tesla for shafting me

This is a perfect example of what happens when you delete the dealership model. Pricing can change depending on what the manufacturer feels like, at least if I bought at dealership I know I got a good deal but this way is like a monopoly over pricing

[BlackV62K2]

I took in Oct 2022. Thanks Tesla for shafting me

This is a perfect example of what happens when you delete the dealership model. Pricing can change depending on what the manufacturer feels like, at least if I bought at dealership I know I got a good deal but this way is like a monopoly over pricing

Dealerships jack up the prices all the time for high demand cars

[SSM_DC5]

^I would be angry too if I just took delivery of one before the price drop, but the notion of demanding refunds is ridiculous. Owners weren't coerced into buying these cars and this behavior shouts entitlement...

Retail stores like best buy do give you money back if price drops, so not that ridiculous in my opinion. https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/help/paying-and-purchasing/low-price-guarantee

[radeonboy]

Retail stores like best buy do give you money back if price drops, so not that ridiculous in my opinion. https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/help/paying-and-purchasing/low-price-guarantee

That's true, though I was talking in the context of vehicle sales. I'm not aware of Tesla or any automotive brand / dealership that price matches post-sale, hence my comment on the owners' behavior.

[SSM_DC5]

Things can change, tesla created the new model of car shopping, so why can't they do price protection too?

[whitev70r]

Yah, a 30 day price protection would be reasonable, I think.

On the other hand, if you get a product at a bottomed out price, and next day, the price jumps 10% ... obviously, you don't have to pay the seller that extra 10%. So it's a bit like the housing market in some sense but from a consumer point of view, a short 30 day protection is reasonable.

[Teriyaki]

Things can change, tesla created the new model of car shopping, so why can't they do price protection too?

The presiding thought process with car purchases for the longest time has been that yesterdays price is not todays price, and that the moment you purchase it you can basically ensure that it'll depreciate.

Car manufacturers have had "price drops" all the time, year end clearouts etc whatever but for the most part they were done in an obscure manner (through rebates, and/or better financing terms, freebies etc).

The recent semiconductor shortage has created a very unusual environment where car values sometimes stay flat and/or increase even after purchase. This was never going to last, and is not normal.

Tesla, also got caught up in this perfect storm on top of their historically "hard to get" stock levels that made their resale values even more unusually inflated. I'm thinking some of the most vocal angries were so caught up in this thinking that they completely forgot that basic supply/demand can work both with you and against you at the drop of a hat.

[Alpine]

Dealerships jack up the prices all the time for high demand cars

To add, at least Tesla is transparent with how/what they've done. Dealership markups and hidden/mislabeled fees? Playing games with customers to determine who gets a car? No trade-in and want to pay cash = back of the line. Fuck that.

[Alpine]

Used Teslas gonna take a big hit on pricing. Counted 17 at Abby VW:lol

They're going to lose ~$15k per car .

[Badhobz]

Typical musk. Makes broad stroke changes that impact his consumer base. Consequences be damned. This is just to stop the bleed of Tesla stock prices

[sonick]

Mazda releases a new Rotary engine car... In a hybrid...

https://jalopnik.com/2023-mazda-mx-30-e-skyactiv-r-ev-this-is-it-1849985053?utm_campaign=Jalopnik&utm_content=1673638211&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook

I love Mazda but an undependable engine and a small battery, worst of both worlds?

:rukidding:

[Koflach]

I took in Oct 2022. Thanks Tesla for shafting me

This is a perfect example of what happens when you delete the dealership model. Pricing can change depending on what the manufacturer feels like, at least if I bought at dealership I know I got a good deal but this way is like a monopoly over pricing

If they increased their price would they be able to ask you for more money? no. You were okay with the price when you bought it so the price today really doesn't matter.

[Koflach]

I thought the federal program doesn’t take Teslas and the provincial one is restricted to under 55k and can’t make more than 85k a year income.

The federal program is only worried about the price of the vehicle, not the make.

With the new pricing, you could get quite a discount on the base model Tesla.

[hud 91gt]

I commend Mazda for trying again. Saying this, I bet this rotary will be successful. A single RPM I suspect, which means it will be very efficient, and likely really reliable.

[68style]

Mazda releases a new Rotary engine car... In a hybrid...

https://jalopnik.com/2023-mazda-mx-30-e-skyactiv-r-ev-this-is-it-1849985053?utm_campaign=Jalopnik&utm_content=1673638211&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=facebook

I love Mazda but an undependable engine and a small battery, worst of both worlds?



It doesn't have to be unreliable if maintained correctly.

I can see what they're doing from a packaging perspective. You can get immense power out of a rotary from a TINY engine size... it's an 860cc engine and it's putting out as much as an engine twice that size... and it's acting as a generator, not driving the wheels = no resistance and way less wear and tear. I think it will work. Is the public going to agree? Maybe.

[68style]

Most of my friends who are car enthusiasts and own Teslas acknowledge that the car is effectively a high tech appliance for getting to/from places.

It only makes sense that prices on high tech gadgets drop suddenly. Just like they would for a TV or anything else that sees replacement rather than improvement as its future.

That said -- it's working, pissed off owners already spent their money and likely will again once their feelings aren't hurt anymore... and a lot of my friends are talking about buying a Tesla today who weren't yesterday.

[Alpine]

Now that the Model 3 RWD for $46k in BC...
That effectively puts a used 2018/2019 Model 3 RWD in the $30-35k range, which is what a new similarly equipped mid/top trim compact car (ie. Corolla/civic/mazda3) costs today.

Would you buy a new compact sedan if a used model 3 was a similar price?

[68style]

Yes, but ONLY because I hate being like every other car on the road lol... not because it makes sense.

[Badhobz]

there’s so many in Richmond it’s ridiculous. Yarg..

[Gumby]

I'm in the market for an ~$60k EV but I do not want a Tesla, regardless of price. I just don't like the way they look, both the inside and outside.

[Hehe]

Model 3 now is like the Civic in the 90s. So many modding options out there if the look is the ultimate concern.

[TypeRNammer]

That's exactly how you'd want to do it.

I know the rebate cutoff is $55k, and with the Tesla price drop now, the TM3 RWD model should qualify for it. But does the gov need to add the car back to its approved list first? or does it automatically qualify once Tesla lowers the MSRP?

At $46k+tax after the rebate, I honestly think this is the best available new car deal right now -- EV or ICE considered. Unfortunately, I am in no position to jump on it in the foreseeable future even though I feel like my pos shxtbox is starting to not fit my needs...

Ugh...

Tax gets applied first, then the rebates after

[68style]

Model 3 now is like the Civic in the 90s. So many modding options out there if the look is the ultimate concern.

There's a super nice grey Model3 in Richmond on blue TE37's... it's my 1 exception to the masses of white ones everywhere.

[dark0821]

Math doesnt add up currently...for the base model 3

$54,990 + $1,880 PDI + $100 AC tax + $20 some fee? = $56,990 + tax

$63,830 before rebates - $9,000 = $54,830 out the door

That is not what's showing on the Tesla website...

[tegra7]

^looks right to me

[BIC_BAWS]

How does trading into a dealership work with EVs? For instance, if I traded my gas car for $40K, they apply the tax equivalent off the car I'm trading in for. But with EVs, it's only 5% GST. Do you lose the 7% tax "credit"?

[radeonboy]

Model 3 now is like the Civic in the 90s. So many modding options out there if the look is the ultimate concern.

It's gotten to the point where my mother asked if she should add a lip spoiler to hers since her friends say it helps stabilize the car. Never imagined my mom would go the ricer route but here we are...

[Alpine]

It's gotten to the point where my mother asked if she should add a lip spoiler to hers since her friends say it helps stabilize the car. Never imagined my mom would go the ricer route but here we are...

I hope you said yes.

[tegra7]

Tell her lowering also increases range.

https://emotive.engineering/blogs/the-logbook/guide-tesla-model-3-lowering-springs#:~:text=Lowering%20your%20car%20decreases% 20the,range%20on%20the%20German%20Autobahn.

[TypeRNammer]

Math doesnt add up currently...for the base model 3

$54,990 + $1,880 PDI + $100 AC tax + $20 some fee? = $56,990 + tax

$63,830 before rebates - $9,000 = $54,830 out the door

That is not what's showing on the Tesla website...

Tesla website only shows the MSRP

It doesn't automatically calculate the tax and rebates for us

[tofu1413]

How does trading into a dealership work with EVs? For instance, if I traded my gas car for $40K, they apply the tax equivalent off the car I'm trading in for. But with EVs, it's only 5% GST. Do you lose the 7% tax "credit"?

Correct.

You pay 5% GST only on the difference.

[g-velocity]

To add, at least Tesla is transparent with how/what they've done. Dealership markups and hidden/mislabeled fees? Playing games with customers to determine who gets a car? No trade-in and want to pay cash = back of the line. Fuck that.
Tesla has zero customer service.
I have a few friends worked at Tesla before and they all left because of the amount of complains coming from customers with no support from HQ.
Tesla will also gives out dirt trade in value on trades and lower than any traditional dealers.

[Hehe]

Tesla has zero customer service.
I have a few friends worked at Tesla before and they all left because of the amount of complains coming from customers with no support from HQ.
Tesla will also gives out dirt trade in value on trades and lower than any traditional dealers.

Not really sure where the zero customer service comes from.

I have 2 Teslas for almost 4yrs now. Every time there's something up with the car, I pull out the phone, setup an appointment and voila. For small problems, rangers would just come to wherever my car is going to be that day, finish everything without me ever present there.

As for buying the cars... again, a few clicks on the website, an agent is assigned to me when it's near pickup date if I had any question/concern/problem. They even asked if I had any plan on the day of pickup so they can make sure the battery is charged to where it needed to be if that was necessary. At the pickup, I sign a few docs, deal with insurance people, go to the parking lot to pick up the keycards to my car and my app updates with new cars in my account so I can basically ditch the cards.

Once I start the process, I'm out in less than 10-15min depending on how long I spend picking up plates with insurance people. Add another 10 if you want an intro Tesla 101 on where most of the stuff like wipers and stuff are.

It might not be like some bling dealership where they bring bouquets and champagne when delivering the car, but again, it's actually very straightforward and quick. And no all that different than picking my other previous cars from Honda/BMW/Porsche.

[JDMDreams]

^^^ this, would you rather buy a "demo" at above MSRP and have to deal added bs and market adjustments? :suspicious:

[TypeRNammer]

Tesla will also gives out dirt trade in value on trades and lower than any traditional dealers.

That's not by choice since Tesla is not your typical traditional dealership.

When it comes to trade in value, it's based on bottom of the barrel wholesale pricing. But with that being said, if the car is on its last legs, at that point it's worth it to trade in since Tesla doesn't thoroughly check the car.

[dark0821]

So I fucked up lolol... but went to Tesla Richmond today and confirmed the full $9000 rebate.

Again I wanna repeat, you are not buying to save money, that is absurd. You are spending 55K, and I didn't need a car.

I was just getting tired of trying to get into an Ioniq 5, with no end in sight, might as well get the 3, I would have spent the same amount anyways. Not saving money...

Bought it cuz I like new shiny things, wife likes new shiny things, kids likes new shiny things.... and finally miata can be more hardcore now that me and wife will both get "normal commuter cars".

https://i.imgur.com/pmIemHE.jpg

[EvoFire]

So I fucked up lolol... but went to Tesla Richmond today and confirmed the full $9000 rebate.

Again I wanna repeat, you are not buying to save money, that is absurd. You are spending 55K, and I didn't need a car.

I was just getting tired of trying to get into an Ioniq 5, with no end in sight, might as well get the 3, I would have spent the same amount anyways. Not saving money...

Bought it cuz I like new shiny things, wife likes new shiny things, kids likes new shiny things.... and finally miata can be more hardcore now that me and wife will both get "normal commuter cars".

https://i.imgur.com/pmIemHE.jpg

So this is in addition to the prime? You must now be making bank selling cars.

[bcedhk]

You got the full provincial rebate? Are you doing something to dodge the income bracket or are actually buying a 55k car with less than 100k household income?

[Badhobz]

Grats dark !! I’m happy for you bro. That straight line acceleration is insane and addictive. I’m sure you and the wife will love it.

How soon can you get it ?

You can dodge it by just getting somebody else to buy it. His wife or his parents or her parents. Then you just primary driver it.

[TypeRNammer]

You got the full provincial rebate? Are you doing something to dodge the income bracket or are actually buying a 55k car with less than 100k household income?

Long shot in the dark but he probably purchased it under his wife's name?

I'm going to have to do the same thing when the new Prius Prime is released since I've used my Provincial rebate already on the Model 3

[dark0821]

-well, lets just say that other than Sept last year where I wasnt allowed to talk to clients yet, my worst month was more than double compared to my old gig, my best month was almost 3.9Xs my old gig... but yea sales life... I am consistently 6 to 7 days at the dealer, day offs dont mean jack, when clients wanna come in to pay deposit, you bet I will say "see you in 40min". All good though, the job is awesome!

Yes, full provincial rebate, the model 3 is under wifeys name. I already used my rebate on the prime. The provincial rebate is based on personal income, not family income. Having said that, family wouldnt have mattered as I am ubder 80K for my 2021 income as I havnt filed my taxes yet for 2022.

Yes, this is just adding to the fleet, we are not getting rid of anything... but also not super scared now that if ICBC do decide to write the miata off, will still buy back since I love the car lolol

Stupid move for sure, family 100% functional without model 3, literally spending 55k because bad financial planning....

[Badhobz]

this aint a stupid move. its actually quite smart. (even smarter if you get rid of the prime at a profit) and swap the prime w/ the model 3.
As much as me and HEHE HE HA HA H HA dont see eye to eye on a lot of things, i do agree that in the long run this thing will likely save you some money if the gas keeps going up the way it does. it was 1.81 today, i found a place that was 1.73 and was laughing.

You dont have to deal with that anymore. This is me this morning... 160 dollars later

https://i.postimg.cc/Lst62D67/IMG-8415.jpg

[Traum]

$1.739/L is cheap -- most stations I see are $1.819/L this morning.

Extra brownie points if you have PC Optimum points.

[Badhobz]

i know, thats why i filled her up. Even though im not a huge fan of non shell/chevron gas.

im always like :suspicious::suspicious: when it comes to Esso/Petro Can

[TypeRNammer]

$1.739/L is cheap -- most stations I see are $1.819/L this morning.

Extra brownie points if you have PC Optimum points.

It's double extra brownie points if you're filling up at a Mobil 1 station.

7 cents a litre back if you have a PC financial MasterCard

[JDMDreams]

Pr Speedway 87 is $1.029 92 is $1.429 today:okay:

[tegra7]

Vinfast stores have opened in Langley and New Westminster.
https://vinfastauto.ca/en/find-us

[Hehe]

Vinfast stores have opened in Langley and New Westminster.
https://vinfastauto.ca/en/find-us

It's right next to Tesla. I just saw it the other day when I went in for some filters. :lawl:

[JDMDreams]

Ooooo I want to check it out, I'm surprised they made it to Na before any China brands.

[Badhobz]

Not bad for a nammer car brand. Hopefully they'll bring some much needed competition to the EV market in Vancouver

[TypeRNammer]

Not bad for a nammer car brand. Hopefully they'll bring some much needed competition to the EV market in Vancouver

Maybe I'll change my username to VinFastNammer :lawl:

[Badhobz]

It better dispense delicious pho-on-demand. Id pay for that

[EvoFire]

Maybe I'll change my username to VinFastNammer :lawl:

Beware of what you ask for, Skinny might just do it right now :lol

[whitev70r]

Seriously, never even heard of this brand in the past 3-4 years and boom, they come to market with sales location across Canada ... what happened there? Where is Nio and the other one XPENG?

[Badhobz]

not sure how they can beat BYD to market (probably cuz the US and Canada go out of their way to actively restrict chinese car imports due to protectionist policies of domestic car manufacturing)

As of 2021, BYD was the fourth largest plug-in electric vehicle (BEV and PHEV) company and fourth largest BEV company in the world, with 9.1% and 7% global market share respectively in 2021.[6] The company has mainly based its sales in Mainland China, but is undertaking rapid expansion into the global market, with sales hitting over 100,000 per month in March 2022, and is expecting to sell between 1.5 million to 2 million plug-in EVs in 2022, around 3 to 4 times the volume compared to 2021.[7] In June 2022, BYD Auto announced that it had sold about 641,000 EVs in the first half of 2022, overtaking Tesla to become the largest EV manufacturer in the world.[8] In 2022, it became the first carmaker in the world to sell a million NEV's, a term used in the Chinese market to describe most electric vehicles.[9]

This BYD Han doesnt even look that bad
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/BYD_Han_EV_facelift_002.jpg/2560px-BYD_Han_EV_facelift_002.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/BYD_Han_001.jpg/2560px-BYD_Han_001.jpg

[sonick]

This BYD Han doesnt even look that bad

They should get him to be a celeb spokesperson:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Han_Lue.jpg

[Gumby]

WTF the grey BYD Han looks exactly like a Tesla Model 3. :lol

[tegra7]

Ooooo I want to check it out, I'm surprised they made it to Na before any China brands.

No cars on their lot yet

[inv4zn]

I saw a clip somewhere (can't find it now) with a Vinfast with terrible build quality. Trunk gaskets with glue in only some places, trim pieces loose, etc. Caveat Emptor I think.

[TypeRNammer]

WTF the grey BYD Han looks exactly like a Tesla Model 3. :lol

Looks more like a bloated Model 3

[radeonboy]

I find the Chinese-market EVs quite fascinating and some of their designs look better than what the Germans are doing.

I enjoy going through Wheelsboy videos on Youtube when I want to catch up on the latest China-domestic EVs - there seems to be a ton of activity and experimentation between manufacturers and models there. Feels much more exciting than what the legacy brands are pumping out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNy5TKocq24

[BaoTurbo]

The Chinese EV market is cutthroat when it comes to pricing and tech. They do it so cheaply and modern it puts Tesla to shame that's why they had to slash the prices eventually anyways.

I don't believe the Chinese EV cars are going to ever come because they will destroy the monopoly and competition in the NA market. Plus privacy concerns etc (which is probably their front and also one reason) but the main one is competition.

[tegra7]

^Forget about competition they'll never meet US safety standards.

[bcrdukes]

^Forget about competition they'll never meet US safety standards.

I don't think this is necessarily true.

Volvo offers a vehicle (S90 long wheel base sedan if I recall correctly) which is sold in North America but is manufactured in China. Yes, I acknowledge the fact that Volvo is not a Chinese company but if a manufacturer was so inclined to sell something in North America, they will get the consulting required to meet North American safety standards should they believe a market is warranted.

[Badhobz]

i mean they can if they wanted to, but they'll never the chinese automakers in. Wayy too cheap and like baoTurbo says, it'll utterly decimate the domestic market.

[Badhobz]

They should get him to be a celeb spokesperson:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Han_Lue.jpg

but he's korean! ahh whatever, we all look a like. :badpokerface:

[JDMDreams]

Free abg with purchase:considered:

[jing]

I don't think this is necessarily true.

Volvo offers a vehicle (S90 long wheel base sedan if I recall correctly) which is sold in North America but is manufactured in China. Yes, I acknowledge the fact that Volvo is not a Chinese company but if a manufacturer was so inclined to sell something in North America, they will get the consulting required to meet North American safety standards should they believe a market is warranted.

Polestar's are made in CHinar as well

[bcrdukes]

There you have it!

[dark0821]

^Ummm I hate to break the news... but

Volvo is Chinese... lol at least 80% Chinese, Geely (from Zhejiang, China) owns 80% share if I am not mistaken...

So yea... lolol

[yray]

too bad this video is not subtitled in English

comparison between chinese made E class vs German made E class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0nxr4BMPzI

[Traum]

too bad this video is not subtitled in English

comparison between chinese made E class vs German made E class

Would you care to give us a TL;DR summary of it?

I'd of course expect the German-built E class to be superior in many different ways. But is there any specific / interesting aspects that you can mention?

[Badhobz]

https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/electric-vehicles/wyoming-lawmakers-bill-ban-electric-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

[JDMDreams]

Make gas cheap again^

[GS8]

https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/electric-vehicles/wyoming-lawmakers-bill-ban-electric-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

They just want to keep WyoTech afloat :troll:

[mikemhg]

https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/electric-vehicles/wyoming-lawmakers-bill-ban-electric-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

This is why US politics are so fucking nuts.

Republicans are just fully embracing the knuckle dragger ideology, they've become memelord shitposters as elected officials.

But alas, tit for tat I suppose.

I'm trying to figure out which bill is more stupid this one, or banning ICE vehicles by 2035.

Both are utterly ridiculous ideas.

[Dbone]

https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/electric-vehicles/wyoming-lawmakers-bill-ban-electric-vehicles-2035

Wtf. Wyoming is banning EVs instead of ICE by 2035.

Some wacko tabled a proposal. No way will that be made a law.

[Badhobz]

https://youtu.be/DXDq79nAZr4?t=149

This doesnt look so bad, but the name is idiotic. Afeela ? what kinda chinglish bullshit is that? looks like a Japanese rip off of Lucid.

[68style]

I feel ya... and you feelz goooooood

oh oh... or Boston's More Than A Feeling for the commercial...

"It's more that A Feel Ah... I begin dreaming"

[tofu1413]

Afeela... sounds like a car straight out of Ridge Racer type 4.


disappointed that these "cars of the future" doesnt look like those cars from Ridge Racer.

[CorneringArtist]

Afeeela this car will be uglier as a production model.

[GLOW]

i hear tesla's releasing a model 2 in 2024, anyone know what it'll look like?
more of a leaf vibe or an A-class hatch vibe?

[TypeRNammer]

i hear tesla's releasing a model 2 in 2024, anyone know what it'll look like?
more of a leaf vibe or an A-class hatch vibe?

I believe development has just started on the smaller Model 3

In terms of looks no idea what it's going to look like, even though there are tons of renderings on the internet.

Ideally I would want this as my commuter car but just have to be patient on it.

EDIT:

There's also a refreshed Model 3 coming out at the end of the year. The Model 3 mules are roaming around with covered up bumpers.

[68style]

There are people who have literally turned into skeletons waiting for the Cyber Truck... where dat at

[JDMDreams]

^^ I still can't believe g fucking m and ford beat them to it. Let alone revian.

[whitev70r]

What ever happened to Apple's top secret project, I thought they were going to make an EV?

[Badhobz]

Im hoping they would. They got cash to spare and their user interfaces are usually pretty intuitive.

Plus this might be the EV that I go lineup for just like iPhone 4 back in the day

Tim cooks ultimate fuck you to Elon if he makes an EV.

[TypeRNammer]

What ever happened to Apple's top secret project, I thought they were going to make an EV?

It's the same story with Dyson

They developed an electric SUV only for it to be scrapped

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/heres-video-dyson-ev-very-nearly-made-it

[whitev70r]

It's the same story with Dyson

They developed an electric SUV only for it to be scrapped


Dyson ... as in the expensive vaccum cleaner, Dyson?

[hud 91gt]

It must have sucked?

[TypeRNammer]

Dyson ... as in the expensive vaccum cleaner, Dyson?

That's correct

[Hehe]

There are people who have literally turned into skeletons waiting for the Cyber Truck... where dat at

You are thinking with traditional carmakers mentality. That's why you find the delay on Cybertruck so hard to understand.

The way Tesla does production is to reduce and to simplify. Legacy carmakers just assemble a bunch of parts at their disposal from their suppliers, adds whatever new stuff needed to be there and done. What if something can't fit together? They come up with other new parts just so that they can put things together. This creates so many SKU and so many configurations that makes ramping up production extremely hard. Between all the trims, configurations, motor/battery differences... etc, there can be hundreds to millions of possible combinations on any given model.

Tesla went the other extreme. They build cars with as many shared designs as possible. They also design so that whatever new stuff they come up with, it'd be backward compatible to other cars (i.e. Octavalve design started with Model Y, it can be fitted onto Model 3 without a hitch. Or Model S Plaid using Model 3 inverters). Thus, they need to make sure whatever solution they come up with is extremely reliable. Because one flaw will then affect the entire fleet. They do mitigate it somewhat by introducing something new on one model, and only once they are sure that it's working without a hitch in real-world settings before they introduce it to other models.

This allowed Tesla to scale at a speed legacy carmakers can only dream of. 50%+ production growth YoY from the year Tesla started making cars until today.

And this is not something I say as a Tesla fanboy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhiQBhOT8Bk

This is from Cory Steuben of Munro & Associates in this interview. And Munro is THE firm that carmakers go to in order to improve how they make cars as they are the best in business.

Legacy carmakers are basically hoping for Cybertruck to keep taking whatever it needs. What they don't understand is once that production line is done, it will be one unlike any other truck production line that ever existed. And it will build CT at a speed legacy carmakers can never achieve at a cost that's impossible to compute in legacy carmakers' own model.

[Alpine]

Not to mention that they went full retard with their design (for Better or for worse). If they just built a regular pickup (ie. rivian/lightning) I bet the pickup would be in production by now. But they just had to do something incredibly different.

[TypeRNammer]

Ever since the start of construction on my lane way house, I'm dealing with the short term pain of Tesla ownership.

Since I don't have a driveway to plug in to an outlet, charging it in front of the house is not an option as it's a liability issue with City of Vancouver, and I'm aware you can apply for a permit to have a cover on the electrical cord but just another night mare.

Month to date, spent about $60 bucks in supercharging with my monthly trip meter sitting at 800km, which is so not worth it. Once in a while I'll swap cars with a friend just to access his level 2 charger.

EDIT:

Before construction it was a pain free ownership. Plug it in a regular outlet, and schedule the car to be pre conditioned before departure.

And now, we can't really pre condition it because it will drain the battery, and once the car gets rolling with the heater on, it will drain even faster so that's a double whammy.

[JDMDreams]

^^ where will you charge after? The laneway garage?

[yray]

well stainless was at all time high during covid

should make it out of corten steel :troll:

[twitchyzero]

Since I don't have a driveway to plug in to an outlet, charging it in front of the house is not an option as it's a liability issue with City of Vancouver, and I'm aware you can apply for a permit to have a cover on the electrical cord but just another night mare.
.

can you not put tiny cones then paint that section of the cord with orange paint?

edit: https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/electric-vehicle-cord-cover-licence.aspx#:~:text=EV%20charging%20extension%20c ords%20on%20sidewalks&text=In%20order%20to%20support%20people,these%20sp ecifications%20(173%20KB).

how long is the wait? seems like something pretty simple

[TypeRNammer]

^^ where will you charge after? The laneway garage?

Yes, once laneway house is completed we will be moving into it, and definitely be equipped with a level 2 charger.

EDIT

Expected completion date tail end of summer or beginning of fall

[hud 91gt]

Walking through residential areas of Vancouver makes me want to pull my hair out. Everyone with Teslas, running extension cords through trees charging their cars. For fucks sake, didn’t you think of this before you bought the car? I think the city should outlaw that 100%.

[twitchyzero]

rather see that then backalleys clogged with parked cars blocking almost half way onto the road

doesnt help each new build has a single or two off-street parking spots for up to 5 households

[Dbone]

Yeah, why not just make them pay to pull a square up, lay the wire under, and re-pour the concrete. The city could make some revenue from it.

[BlackV62K2]

Those that live in an apartment and have charging at your parking stall, does your strata have a flat monthly fee for charging or is it metered and you pay by usage?

[Teriyaki]

Those that live in an apartment and have charging at your parking stall, does your strata have a flat monthly fee for charging or is it metered and you pay by usage?

Have a friend that lives in a newer build that has a charger built in to every stall. It's metered from what I'm told. Theirs is turned off since they don't drive a plug-in though.

[TypeRNammer]

Walking through residential areas of Vancouver makes me want to pull my hair out. Everyone with Teslas, running extension cords through trees charging their cars. For fucks sake, didn’t you think of this before you bought the car? I think the city should outlaw that 100%.

Damn that must be a bizarre site to see.

I haven't seen any of that in my hood.

[Manic!]

When I was in LA they had shut down the street by our hotel to shoot a car commercial. Anyone know what car this is. Had European plates.

https://iili.io/HchcUBt.jpg

https://iili.io/Hchc8QI.jpgI

[Spectre_Cdn]

Polestar 3? Has the Thor headlights

[JDMDreams]

I was gonna say frisker cuz I keep seeing ads for the ocean but yea looks like polestar, looks pretty good

[TypeRNammer]

When I was in LA they had shut down the street by our hotel to shoot a car commercial. Anyone know what car this is. Had European plates.

https://iili.io/HchcUBt.jpg

https://iili.io/Hchc8QI.jpgI

https://electricautonomy.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Polestar-3-1-scaled-e1665750478620.jpeg

https://images.drive.com.au/driveau/image/upload/c_fill,f_auto,g_auto,h_675,q_auto:eco,w_1200/cms/uploads/vllmrmf72hdvffjcf4h0

Yup definitely looks like the Polestar 3

[GLOW]

Walking through residential areas of Vancouver makes me want to pull my hair out. Everyone with Teslas, running extension cords through trees charging their cars. For fucks sake, didn’t you think of this before you bought the car? I think the city should outlaw that 100%.

thank goodness that doesn't happen on my block, several EV's, tesla, e-mach, etc ... few elderly people on my block go for daily walks, bad enough the tree roots uplift the sidewalk, i can't imagine more tripping hazards. some are so elderly can't afford to trip and take a fall it would be scary.

[Badhobz]

So I went to Audi to check out their q8 etron. It’s quite small. Like significantly smaller than I thought it would be. It’s basically rav4 sized interior / maybe even smaller than that because I couldn’t sit behind myself with my own seating position up front.

Also the interior is nice but it should be a lot nicer if they want 120k for that. Way too much piano black gloss and the screens are small and uninspired looking. Center console is also weird with the two metal (maybe plastic?) bars running across the sides but underneath is where the cup holders are. You can’t fully cover up this gap so it just looks out of place.
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/2024-audi-sq8-sportback-e-tron-dashboard-1667924225.jpg

[SSM_DC5]

What's everyone using for EVSE at home? Worth it to buy Juicebox and get BCHydro rebate?

[tegra7]

Tesla gen 2 mobile charger with nema 14-50 adapter. Paid $300 to have the plug installed in my garage. Also you can pick and choose which adapter fits your needs. Another reason why Tesla is ahead in the EV market.

https://i.ibb.co/1Zrycvv/A7-B91-B13-B464-4164-836-C-B153-FD7-A6-C1-B.jpg (https://ibb.co/SNtYSss)

14-50 adapter $55
14-50 plug installation $300
Tesla gen 2 mobile charger- came free with car
My total cost $355 for level 2 home charging

[Bender Unit]

ClipperCreek HCS-40, 32 Amp.

bought used for $300. Year 2 ownership so far, never fail.
My garage has a 240v outlet pre-installed.

[EvoFire]

So I went to Audi to check out their q8 etron. It’s quite small. Like significantly smaller than I thought it would be. It’s basically rav4 sized interior / maybe even smaller than that because I couldn’t sit behind myself with my own seating position up front.

Also the interior is nice but it should be a lot nicer if they want 120k for that. Way too much piano black gloss and the screens are small and uninspired looking. Center console is also weird with the two metal (maybe plastic?) bars running across the sides but underneath is where the cup holders are. You can’t fully cover up this gap so it just looks out of place.
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/2024-audi-sq8-sportback-e-tron-dashboard-1667924225.jpg

I liked the interior. Yes I agree it's small. The trunk was much smaller than I envisioned and it's not really an upgrade in size over the family X3.

I'm not ready for a new car right now, but will be in a year. It's still looking like plugin hybrid SUVs for us. Cayenne E is $140k, X5 edrive is $100k and it's all a little pricy for me. I'm waiting for the full reveal of the Mazda CX-90. The engine specs are great, inline 6 turbo, 340hp/369tq with plugin hybrid as an option.

The X5 is amazing for utility and nothing comes close imo as a package. But if the Mazda comes in at $75k. I can't argue with $25k in my pocket for slightly less niceties, and the current Mazdas are no slouch in terms of build and material quality.

IMO Acura is dropping the ball hard right now. They have their MDX Type S which really is only comparable to a X5 40i without the fuel economy to boot. They have their fantastic hybrid SH-AWD system and aren't using it. It really only needs a slightly bigger battery to boot out a plugin hybrid out the door and they've got a bigger chunk of the market. I honestly would be very curious in a product like that.

[JDMDreams]

Isn't there a full electric gv80 coming out? I thought most of the genesis cars will have a EV version. You can always get a vinfast:troll: and I've seen quite a few new outlander phevs around already. Too bad it's not 0% financing or else I'd be pretty tempting

[Manic!]

So the new Sony car uses facial recognition to unlock the car. No need for keys or a phone to unlock/start the car. Crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mVQ-OB3PlFg

[Bender Unit]

Lexus RX450h+ will be coming in late 2023/early 2024
It will be a Plug-In Hybird (should be using the same RAV4 PRIME plug-in, around 50km since it is heavier)

I am on the waitlist (deposited) since last Nov2022
trading in my RAV4 PRIME

[EvoFire]

Lexus RX450h+ will be coming in late 2023/early 2024
It will be a Plug-In Hybird (should be using the same RAV4 PRIME plug-in, around 50km since it is heavier)

I am on the waitlist (deposited) since last Nov2022
trading in my RAV4 PRIME

That's going to be pricey as hell. I was looking at the last RX hybrid and it was already over 100k. The Prime drivetrain is going to push it into 120s+?

A NX450 phev is something like 90k out the door already.

[!Aznboi128]

According to Lexus.ca, prices before tax

NX450h+ starts from $63,225. Top Trim $79,625.

Doesn't look like RX450h+ pricing is out for Canada just yet.

[EvoFire]

So that means you hit 90k out the door without going for top trim if that doesn't include freight/pdi and other misc fees and taxes.

I know two ppl that got a NX450h+ F sport and they both said ~90k.

[Bender Unit]

NX450h+ is eligibling for iZEV Rabate
even with F Sport trim or Executive Trim
It wasn't qualify previously.

so $85k :lol

[Badhobz]

These car prices are utterly insane nowadays. Makes an Aston or a Bentley seem like a good deal if you’re spending 120k on a fucking RX.

[bcedhk]

Are dealership financing still the best way to go for EVs or are banks/brokers offering more competitive rates?

[JDMDreams]

Tesla finances through Scotia. I don't think the dealer actually lends you money, they just go through which ever lender gives them most cash back and reasonable rate. So far I've never seen an auto loan done at the bank cheaper than bank through dealer. Unless you have bad credit. But then you shouldn't be financing a car at that point.

[tofu1413]

Are dealership financing still the best way to go for EVs or are banks/brokers offering more competitive rates?

the big dealers (OE franchised store for example)

usually have more buying power, so they will offer better rates than you walking into a bank asking for a loan.

but of course, case by case basis and depending on the ethic of the store (and how much the business manager likes you)

[dark0821]

^if its used, you can shop for rates yourself, but still I would say 80-90% of the time, the dealer will still get you a better rate

if its a brand new car, no way you will get a better deal, unless you are doing line of credit thru your house equity etc, but even then, I have heard from clients that it is 6.5% ish nowadays, Hyundai is still financing at 5.99%

[tofu1413]

nice. 5.99% is already factory subvented rate nowadays.

[Badhobz]

so looking at the interest rates. 4.99 or 5.99 still isnt bad if youre forking out like 100k+

Banks are giving out 4.5-5.5% interest rates on high rate savings alone so you ultimately balancing out if you kept the money in the bank or financed/leased it.

I kinda regret paying cash for LC.... could have dumped more in stonks.

[dark0821]

nice. 5.99% is already factory subvented rate nowadays.

fo shiz lolol under cutting Toyota and Honda XD, like 5.99% sounds high on its own, but the AutoMall helps us in this sense, after clients shop around, they will come back and be like.. damn 5.99% from Hyundai is pretty good loool

[dark0821]

Alright guys... dumb question.... umm... whats a good level 2 charger, lolol don't want to break the bank, smth like >$1000, but ofc cheaper the better hahaha cuz I am cheap af...

Cars will be
- 2021 prius prime
- 2023 model 3 base base base (did i mention it is base?)

Garage = standard 220V plug that has my dryer... no idea what AMP its rated for....

[TypeRNammer]

Alright guys... dumb question.... umm... whats a good level 2 charger, lolol don't want to break the bank, smth like >$1000, but ofc cheaper the better hahaha cuz I am cheap af...

Cars will be
- 2021 prius prime
- 2023 model 3 base base base (did i mention it is base?)

Garage = standard 220V plug that has my dryer... no idea what AMP its rated for....

Tesla Wall Charger and adding a Tesla adapter to j1772?

Plus there are provincial rebates

https://electricvehicles.bchydro.com/incentives/charger-rebates

[bcrdukes]

so looking at the interest rates. 4.99 or 5.99 still isnt bad if youre forking out like 100k+

Banks are giving out 4.5-5.5% interest rates on high rate savings alone so you ultimately balancing out if you kept the money in the bank or financed/leased it.

I kinda regret paying cash for LC.... could have dumped more in stonks.

I think hindsight is 20/20. When you got your LC, I don't think the economy was in such terrible shape and interest rates were relatively low. It's only now that banks are offering these interest rates for savings and who knows, you could have lost all that money on Tesla. :troll:

[Badhobz]

Nah it wouldn’t be Tesla. I’d just dump more into air Canada. That shits been doing pretty well. We bought in at 17ish bucks and it’s at 22 today.

[dark0821]

Tesla Wall Charger and adding a Tesla adapter to j1772?

Plus there are provincial rebates

https://electricvehicles.bchydro.com/incentives/charger-rebates

No go, to be eligible means an electrical permit, if my 9+ years of signage job has taught me anything, permitting is time + money... no way this would be the "frugal" way of doing it.

As mentioned, I already have an existing 200V plug on the wall, literally just need a plug and play level 2 charger that can work for both cars...

[noclue]

I bought the grizzl-e one, cheap and so far so good

[snowball]

Man times have changed, I remember when I bought my car in 2015 it was 0% financing for 72 mos, literally free ass money and now it's 6%

[supafamous]

No go, to be eligible means an electrical permit, if my 9+ years of signage job has taught me anything, permitting is time + money... no way this would be the "frugal" way of doing it.

As mentioned, I already have an existing 200V plug on the wall, literally just need a plug and play level 2 charger that can work for both cars...

Damn it, didn't know the permit was a requirement. My house was pre wired for a 220v in the garage with everything but the plug which is trivial to add in. I'm still years away from getting an EV/PHEV so I guess it's no big deal but bummer to miss out on this kind of rebate.

[TOS'd]

I shop at the downtown Costco after work so I don’t have to deal with the Richmond one. I didn’t see it there WutFace. Will secretly order online to go with these pants that she loves so much. Kirkland is kind of high end, wish they had straight up Costco sweatshirts.
Wish came true:

https://i.imgur.com/O8KF0kcl.png

https://www.costco.ca/.product.4000025729.html

Pants also on sale if you want the full set to match Badhobz.

https://i.imgur.com/xP93Kc5l.png

https://www.costco.ca/kirkland-signature-men's-costco-logo-fleece-jogger.product.4000093664.html

[sonick]

Need the OG Kirkland sweatshirt

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2021_42/1792590/cosco-merch-te-main-211022.jpg

[TOS'd]

^ its too high end $$$$$ for him though

[Badhobz]

THANKS GENTS!!! Wife trolling intensified now.. this is gonna look SOOOO GOOD at Dolar Hotpot
https://i.postimg.cc/0j21Nxtm/1.jpg

gonna strut into holt wearing this shit next time. i wonder if the security dude will even let me in.

https://media.tenor.com/No6mvewFjp0AAAAM/kool-moe-dee-dancing.gif

[JDMDreams]

How do you wear a sweat shirt to hot pot

[Badhobz]

with gucci gators and a patek watch of course..


eruhhh Sketchers sneakers and a timex watch of course.

[sonick]

with gucci gators and a patek watch of course..


eruhhh Sketchers sneakers and a timex watch of course.

Wear your PP and Gucci's into Holt's with your Costco sweater and see their confused looks lol.

Too bad you didn't get the sweats too to do the full look.

[Hehe]

Wish came true:

https://i.imgur.com/O8KF0kcl.png



Just saw a gent getting off from the rear seats of a RR Cullinan doning this very sweater.

Was that you Badhobz?!?! :fuckthatshit:

[yray]

I bought the pants to wrench in :okay:

[Badhobz]

Wear your PP and Gucci's into Holt's with your Costco sweater and see their confused looks lol.

Too bad you didn't get the sweats too to do the full look.

That’s cuz I already have the sweats. It’s a full set !!!
https://i.postimg.cc/SNC8W4WW/Capture.jpg

[Badhobz]

Just saw a gent getting off from the rear seats of a RR Cullinan doning this very sweater.

Was that you Badhobz?!?! :fuckthatshit:

Nah. That’s real chinaman money. I only have communist local village cadre money. :alone: didn’t embezzle enough

[Doubl3_H]

browsing autotrader and there are people high on crack asking 90-over 100k for a model Y SMH
priced one out online, Y performance = 80K

[BlackV62K2]

browsing autotrader and there are people high on crack asking 90-over 100k for a model Y SMH
priced one out online, Y performance = 80K

Let me pay more for a used one or much less for a brand new one. The wait for a MYP is about a month. The used Tesla market haven't caught up the price drop.

[TypeRNammer]

According to the Tesla website, Model 3 long range isn't available to customize.

But if you look in the available inventory, they have them brand new ready for immediate delivery.

[lilaznviper]

debating if i should sell my prime and get a model 3 or should wait til march since a lot of rumors have it, it might drop more in pricing

[Badhobz]

Well since you’re already getting the rebates now why wait. Just grab it and start saving money now

[Koflach]

According to the Tesla website, Model 3 long range isn't available to customize.

But if you look in the available inventory, they have them brand new ready for immediate delivery.

The dual motor hasn't been available to customize for quite some time. That being said, people back out of existing orders so the store still takes the car into inventory and has them available to sell.

[twitchyzero]

can you sell a prime for like 55-60k since waitlist still ridic?

then buy a used 3 for like 35k and save tax, invest the rest

[BaoTurbo]

No go, to be eligible means an electrical permit, if my 9+ years of signage job has taught me anything, permitting is time + money... no way this would be the "frugal" way of doing it.

As mentioned, I already have an existing 200V plug on the wall, literally just need a plug and play level 2 charger that can work for both cars...

Question: The Tesla has the Mobile Connector for Level 2 as long as you have the 240v plug I believe.

So if I install a 240v then I don't need a level 2 charger unit which means no rebates right? (breaker circuit is also in the garage)

[Manic!]

Question: The Tesla has the Mobile Connector for Level 2 as long as you have the 240v plug I believe.

So if I install a 240v then I don't need a level 2 charger unit which means no rebates right? (breaker circuit is also in the garage)

Yes, but the mobile charger does not come with the car anymore. You have to buy it separate.

[bcedhk]

debating if i should sell my prime and get a model 3 or should wait til march since a lot of rumors have it, it might drop more in pricing

where's this rumor coming from? Hopefully not from the subreddits....

[Hehe]

Question: The Tesla has the Mobile Connector for Level 2 as long as you have the 240v plug I believe.

So if I install a 240v then I don't need a level 2 charger unit which means no rebates right? (breaker circuit is also in the garage)

The rebate only applies to the wall charger (the one hardwired to the breaker box).

[tegra7]

Let me pay more for a used one or much less for a brand new one. The wait for a MYP is about a month. The used Tesla market haven't caught up the price drop.

People with bad credit are actually buying used teslas from other dealers for more $ than a new one because tesla wont sell to people with bad/no credit.

[dark0821]

^ unfortunately most still wont get approved even @ sub-prime, problem is the used tesla is so far away from book value that most banks don't want to gamble the risk no matter how lucrative a $60K 12.99% loan is

[Badhobz]

No credit \ bad credit people shouldn't buy these ev's. Better off buying a 5k used ratrolla and rebuild credit

[TypeRNammer]

debating if i should sell my prime and get a model 3 or should wait til march since a lot of rumors have it, it might drop more in pricing

where's this rumor coming from? Hopefully not from the subreddits....

Historically speaking, back in 2020/2021 the price dropped as low as $52,990 before tax and freight

Then in 2021 there was a very limited run on the Model Y RWD standard range that was priced at $55,000

If Tesla ever decides to bring back the standard range Model Y and price it at $60,000, I'll definitely jump on it

[tegra7]

I like the versatility of the Model Y but I dislike the plastic cladding around the wheel wells and the high roofline

[JDMDreams]

^^^ yes unless it is black it looks cheap, you can't even wrap it cuz it's some textured plastic. It makes the car look so high of the ground.

[cafe22]

Pulled the trigger on the M3. Loved the seamless and stress-free purchasing process and having to avoid the "let me speak to my manager" BS at conventional dealerships.

Hopefully the VW id.buzz won't have the same supply issues as that's our 'ultimate' goal for our primary vehicle in the next 3-5 years :D

[TypeRNammer]

Pulled the trigger on the M3. Loved the seamless and stress-free purchasing process and having to avoid the "let me speak to my manager" BS at conventional dealerships.

Hopefully the VW id.buzz won't have the same supply issues as that's our 'ultimate' goal for our primary vehicle in the next 3-5 years :D


Maybe put a deposit down now to get your allocation in 3 years for the ID Buzz? ::lawl:

EDIT:

Congrats on the M3, did you trade anything in? Finance?

[cafe22]

:okay:I am on the 'waitlist' to be notified of putting a deposit down to wait 3 years for the id.buzz

[supafamous]

:okay:I am on the 'waitlist' to be notified of putting a deposit down to wait 3 years for the id.buzz

3 year wait probably means they'll have fixed the stupid touch controls by then. I could see the Buzz being the electric I buy in 4-5 years cause I love minivans but the price I'm hearing is kinda scary.

[Badhobz]

Pulled the trigger on the M3. Loved the seamless and stress-free purchasing process and having to avoid the "let me speak to my manager" BS at conventional dealerships.

Hopefully the VW id.buzz won't have the same supply issues as that's our 'ultimate' goal for our primary vehicle in the next 3-5 years :D

man dont say m3. im like who bought that pig nosed bmw!?

[Koflach]

Pulled the trigger on the M3. Loved the seamless and stress-free purchasing process and having to avoid the "let me speak to my manager" BS at conventional dealerships.

Hopefully the VW id.buzz won't have the same supply issues as that's our 'ultimate' goal for our primary vehicle in the next 3-5 years :D

Congrats on the M3!

As for the buzz, i love the design but i'd only buy one of they can fix the software and controls that are on their current id lineup of cars.

My wife has an id4 and I like the look and build quality of it but the software and button layout are just awful. The built in map looks like it comes out of a 15 year old honda. The touch sensitive buttons suck. and on and on I can go.

[dark0821]

Historically speaking, back in 2020/2021 the price dropped as low as $52,990 before tax and freight

Then in 2021 there was a very limited run on the Model Y RWD standard range that was priced at $55,000

If Tesla ever decides to bring back the standard range Model Y and price it at $60,000, I'll definitely jump on it


Curious when the M3 was $52,990, was the govt also doing the full $9000 in rebate (5,000 Federal + 4,000 BC) back then?

Cuz if it was that, that is a steal for sure....

[TypeRNammer]

Curious when the M3 was $52,990, was the govt also doing the full $9000 in rebate (5,000 Federal + 4,000 BC) back then?

Cuz if it was that, that is a steal for sure....

https://teslanorth.com/2021/10/14/tesla-increases-price-of-entry-model-3-in-canada-by-2000/

Trying to dig up Google to see when the actual price dropped happened.

But I found an article on when the first price hike started.

Rebates were $5000 federal and $3000 provincial at the time.

[dark0821]

^Ahh, ok, not feeling too bad then, then it was only $1000 bucks apart...

$52990 with 8K Rebate
$54990 with 9K Rebate

[cafe22]

Congrats on the M3, did you trade anything in? Finance?

Thanks! The financing rates are brutal (6% for 36 months), so I am planning straight cash.

https://media.tenor.com/MAwL2PiEmVIAAAAM/dipset-birdgang.gif

[Badhobz]

6% aint that bad. i think you can grab GIC's for 5% so that means youre only out 1% worth of interest.. might work out better if you take the 40-50k and invest it instead.

[JDMDreams]

Must be nice to have straight cash:okay:

[JDMDreams]

Just saw a bz4ev whatever it's called and it just looks like a rav4 with a Kia front end. Pretty normal looking actually, but less plain than the id4.

[Badhobz]

cant get over the black fenders. SO UGLY.

[EvoFire]

cant get over the black fenders. SO UGLY.

People are painting the WRX fenders, they can paint the bz4x fenders too.

[JDMDreams]

I didn't notice that with the quick glance as it was just driving by, but then most cars have plastic fenders like the model y

[sonick]

Reports of ford dropping the price on the Mustang Mach E. Not sure if Canada will follow suit and by how much.

[tegra7]

Reports of ford dropping the price on the Mustang Mach E. Not sure if Canada will follow suit and by how much.

Hah! bet dealers would drop their pants to sell them for MSRP now.

[JDMDreams]

There must be a shipment cuz I've seen like 4-5 bz4x this weekend. More than primes:pokerface:

[68style]

Does anyone here own a Mach-E?

We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.

[Traum]

Apparently, Mach E's and Bolt's don't do very well with their winter range. (And ID.4 seems pretty crappy too.)

https://insideevs.com/news/626577/winter-cold-weather-ev-range-loss-study/
https://cdn.motor1.com/images/custom/thumbnail/winter-range-for-popular-ev-models.jpg

That said, when you said "the BC versions of cold temperatures", this past Nov/Dec was pretty darn cold during the extended cold snap, and was unseasonably warm otherwise. So question is -- when did you notice the 90% charge w/ 170km range?
Does anyone here own a Mach-E?

We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.

[Badhobz]

Does anyone here own a Mach-E?

We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.

170km not enough for your daily use? id be curious what that drops down to if it tows something on top of the cold temps. :heckno:

[JDMDreams]

170 km is like best case scenario, if you drive a few more people, turn on the heat, you can easily burn up more range. Same thing as flooring your f150 pick up.

[JDMDreams]

FeelsBadMan

https://youtu.be/j8gH52gKejE

[68style]

That said, when you said "the BC versions of cold temperatures", this past Nov/Dec was pretty darn cold during the extended cold snap, and was unseasonably warm otherwise. So question is -- when did you notice the 90% charge w/ 170km range?

Last week :(

The driver routinely has to go to Squamish and some off-road stuff... so it's involved some ass clenching episodes of range anxiety for sure.

[tegra7]

^He can always keep a gas powered generator in the back for emergency charging KEKW

[Koflach]

My wife charges her ID4 to 90% and gets about 200 km of driving before she charges as her commute is 100km round trip and after two days she is left with 30%. The estimated range from VW is 410km, this should be doable in the summer, and from her experience she gets about 330km from 100% in the winter. This works out to roughly a 20% drop which really isn't that bad.

[Badhobz]

How come more peeps don’t buy the leaf. It seems to the cheapest out of the bunch and the design looks okay in my eyes. Also it’s one of the oldest EVs so I figure Nissan has the leg up on building EVs as it’s 2nd gen.

[punkwax]

Does anyone here own a Mach-E?

We got a Lighting in our government vehicle fleet and it's a cool vehicle but after a few months of ownership we are wishing we had a way to get rid of it and trade it in for a conventional truck.

Even in BC versions of cold temperatures a 90% charge is only good for 170km of range. It's pretty bad... Ford has a long way to go. Not sure if the Mach-E is the same ish.

That is brutal.. and they’re supposed to be able to power a house for 3 days during an outage? :suspicious:

Glad I didn’t wait and snagged a lightly used Limited instead.

[Koflach]

How come more peeps don’t buy the leaf. It seems to the cheapest out of the bunch and the design looks okay in my eyes. Also it’s one of the oldest EVs so I figure Nissan has the leg up on building EVs as it’s 2nd gen.

have you read about any of the issues that Nissan has had with battery management in the past?

Also, this is yet another reason to buy a Tesla, the charging network is extremely good. https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/electrify-america-faces-more-issues-at-rivian-r1t-gets-fried-at-station-in-california/

[Manic!]

Tesla with air ride and 12 8 inch subs. not finished. According to comments system barley effects the range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vgLWwfP0I8

[hud 91gt]

6000W for an hour is 6kwh. So if you only have a few hours range… what’s that 5-10% of a full charge? That’s fairly significant, but saying that the system wouldn’t be using 100% of its capability all the time.

[JDMDreams]

We test drove the leaf, few years ago, they wanted 4.99% financing during the pandemic and you would want at least the sv model which is a few thousand more than the base for a larger battery. From what I recall the monthly payments were like $70 more a month than a model 3. More out dated tech. On the test drive the infotainment system had some glitch and wouldn't display certain things, I forgot what, asked the sales guy and they were like yea there's issues and we gotta update it. :suspicious: also the back seats were quite cramped for a hatchback, less head and leg room than model 3. :fulloffuck:



How come more peeps don’t buy the leaf. It seems to the cheapest out of the bunch and the design looks okay in my eyes. Also it’s one of the oldest EVs so I figure Nissan has the leg up on building EVs as it’s 2nd gen.

[AstulzerRZD]

That is brutal.. and they’re supposed to be able to power a house for 3 days during an outage? :suspicious:

Glad I didn’t wait and snagged a lightly used Limited instead.

Is this the extended range or standard range Lightning?

[AstulzerRZD]

Apparently, Mach E's and Bolt's don't do very well with their winter range. (And ID.4 seems pretty crappy too.)


Not surprising - the bolt and MachE don't have heat pump.
The ID.4 has one but they're going to be shipped without one for a while because of supply shortages.

[68style]

Is this the extended range or standard range Lightning?

It's the standard range one, we didn't get offered the extended from Ford.

[Great68]

That is brutal.. and they’re supposed to be able to power a house for 3 days* during an outage? :suspicious:

*Based on a daily consumption of 30kWh

Not powering any truck systems, no motors, no internal heat, no friction losses etc etc.

[radeonboy]

On a different note, I got to see the new iX1 on display while visiting BMW dealership with my parents in HK (they wanted to test drive the iX). It's interestingly spec'd at 316hp and 364 lb-ft of torque which is not far off of the base iX 326hp.

I thought the car is pretty solid would consider one if they released it in Vancouver.

https://i.imgur.com/PVcJLh2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eG8IdzY.jpg

[68style]

My friend recently took delivery of an i4... it's really nice but I was totally confused by why they didn't create a front trunk like the Model 3? There's nothing up there but they just covered it over in black plastic and left it at that.

Totally shocked me why they would pass up an opportunity for storage space, it's a big selling point on the Model 3.

[radeonboy]

^ I think most of these ICE-converted EVs have a ton of other hardware under the hood and engineers can't find another spot to house them due to the space inefficiencies of an ICE platform. Tesla doesn't have this problem because it's built ground up as an EV so packaging is more efficient.

Still doesn't explain why the iX doesn't have a usable frunk though.

[Traum]

Personally, I am really surprised that neither BMW nor Mercedes are releasing the iX1 and EQA here in N.America. CUV is supposed to be pretty popular segment in N.America too, and it doesn't make sense that everyone is forced into a larger vehicle just bcos we're the N.American market.

On a different note, I got to see the new iX1 on display while visiting BMW dealership with my parents in HK (they wanted to test drive the iX). It's interestingly spec'd at 316hp and 364 lb-ft of torque which is not far off of the base iX 326hp.

I thought the car is pretty solid would consider one if they released it in Vancouver.

[JDMDreams]

I wonder why they delayed the eqc and didn't even release it here. They made this huge advertising campaign with the weeknd

[dark0821]

Has anyone actually took a delivery of a tesla recently?

Just reading online makes my head hurt, how bad is it really for things like
- paint
- panel gap
- curbed rims
- condensation in head/tail lights
- interior trim popping out

lol?

[Badhobz]

you'll be the one to test all that out in a couple of days bro! you tell us how it goes. TAKE LOTS OF PHOTOS (for evidence)

[tegra7]

Has anyone actually took a delivery of a tesla recently?

Just reading online makes my head hurt, how bad is it really for things like
- paint
- panel gap
- curbed rims
- condensation in head/tail lights
- interior trim popping out

lol?

Those were common issues a few years back. When I took delivery in 2021 the car looked perfect, I only noticed a couple of paint defects when I washed the car for the first time a few days after delivery, also the rear bumper flared out a bit in one corner which was barely noticeable. The paint issues polished out and a rear bumper bracket was replaced. Last summer I had the driver seat replaced under warranty due to faulty seat motor..Other than that its been a sound car. If you do notice any issues with your car during pick up simply point them out and ask to be fixed or you can refuse delivery all together and wait for another car.

Edit:I also suggest joining the local Tesla groups on FB

[Manic!]

6000W for an hour is 6kwh. So if you only have a few hours range… what’s that 5-10% of a full charge? That’s fairly significant, but saying that the system wouldn’t be using 100% of its capability all the time.

Music is dynamic so will only see a full load maybe 30% of the time. Will have to wait for the full video but I would not be surprised if they have extra batteries installed. Lipo batteries are big int the SPL world.

[Koflach]

Those were common issues a few years back. When I took delivery in 2021 the car looked perfect, I only noticed a couple of paint defects when I washed the car for the first time a few days after delivery, also the rear bumper flared out a bit in one corner which was barely noticeable. The paint issues polished out and a rear bumper bracket was replaced. Last summer I had the driver seat replaced under warranty due to faulty seat motor..Other than that its been a sound car. If you do notice any issues with your car during pick up simply point them out and ask to be fixed or you can refuse delivery all together and wait for another car.

Edit:I also suggest joining the local Tesla groups on FB

I've taken delivery of a 2018 LR RWD and a 2021 Dual Motor with no more issues than I have had on any other car i've bought.

As for the FB Groups, avoid them like the plague. It's the same questions over and over and over again.

[tegra7]

As for the FB Groups, avoid them like the plague. It's the same questions over and over and over again.

That makes it perfect for newbies to learn.

[EvoFire]

I've taken delivery of a 2018 LR RWD and a 2021 Dual Motor with no more issues than I have had on any other car i've bought.

As for the FB Groups, avoid them like the plague. It's the same questions over and over and over again.

That makes it perfect for newbies to learn.

If only there's a place where knowledge can be kept on top, discussions can be kept and not be pushed into oblivion, none of the PFA garbage, and the information could be searched easily.

If only such a technology exists.......

[supafamous]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42688680/2024-mazda-cx-90-revealed/

Mazda Canada CEO said that pricing will be from the mid-40s to low 60s which sounds low considering what the CX-9 goes for and how much better this is. Bet the PHEV comes in cheaper than the gas engine version once the rebate is taken into account.

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.

[Traum]

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.
Stay focused on the BGTS!!!

[SSM_DC5]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42688680/2024-mazda-cx-90-revealed/

Mazda Canada CEO said that pricing will be from the mid-40s to low 60s which sounds low considering what the CX-9 goes for and how much better this is. Bet the PHEV comes in cheaper than the gas engine version once the rebate is taken into account.

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.

What's happening to you to make it unreliable?

[JDMDreams]

I dunno, it looks pretty good, but it's first gen engine and phev tech for Mazda. None of the previous Mazda turbos have been known for their reliability, Mazda speeds, and they still rust worse than 90s Japanese cars:heckno: for some reason Mazda's are all crazy rusty.

[supafamous]

What's happening to you to make it unreliable?

Squeaky brakes replaced twice (in 30,000km)
Squeaky control arms replaced
Squeaky tailgate (replaced springs)
Driver side seat motor/bottom replaced (seat doesn't return to the right spot)

There's been other more minor items that I can't recall (way more squeaks and rattles than I'd expect too - it feels quite used for it's mileage and age). Never been stranded but I've made about double the dealer visits that I should have to make - it's an annoyance I don't expect from an Acura.

[tegra7]

Audi EV battery explodes in Richmond daytime crash

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/suv-ev-explosion-richmond-crash?fbclid=IwAR23jjWLhmCN-rbKHcVYt2eO1im4SYIKDIfFyMm9i29qwquQROQZhCv0pE0&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

[EvoFire]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42688680/2024-mazda-cx-90-revealed/

Mazda Canada CEO said that pricing will be from the mid-40s to low 60s which sounds low considering what the CX-9 goes for and how much better this is. Bet the PHEV comes in cheaper than the gas engine version once the rebate is taken into account.

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.

If it honestly is going to come in at that price, I'm probably going to buy one next year once the cars land and I can actually see it in person.

There's a few things I need to see first in person. How big of a compromise is it to have a 3rd row in terms of 2nd row space and trunk space and how funky the trunk is.

[TypeRNammer]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a42688680/2024-mazda-cx-90-revealed/

Mazda Canada CEO said that pricing will be from the mid-40s to low 60s which sounds low considering what the CX-9 goes for and how much better this is. Bet the PHEV comes in cheaper than the gas engine version once the rebate is taken into account.

If pricing really is that low then I'm getting really excited for the CX-70 PHEV as that would suggest a nicely loaded one is 50k. I don't really love my RDX, it's been pretty unreliable, it guzzles gas, and it's not particularly well resolved. At the same I don't drive it much so a replacement for it better be awesome.

Estimated pricing is in USD.

Definitely wouldn't mind if that pricing was in CAD :lawl:

EDIT: According to the Canadian editorial, it also mentions those prices in CAD as per CEO

https://driving.ca/reviews/preview/first-look-2024-mazda-cx-90-flagship-three-row-suv

[supafamous]

Estimated pricing is in USD.

Definitely wouldn't mind if that pricing was in CAD :lawl:

EDIT: According to the Canadian editorial, it also mentions those prices in CAD as per CEO

https://driving.ca/reviews/preview/first-look-2024-mazda-cx-90-flagship-three-row-suv

From the article:

Like we said, pricing will be revealed within the next few weeks, but we have a ballpark to work with. Mazda Canada CEO David Klan confirmed to Driving.ca that the lowest trims will start in the mid-$40,000 range and will compete with mainstream three-row SUVs like the Hyundai Palisade, Kia Telluride, Toyota Highlander, Honda Pilot, and others. At the high end—Signature on the inline-six and GT for the PHEV—Klan says pricing will be in the early-$60,000 range and will play in the entry-level luxury space against competitors like the Acura MDX (from $66,300 for the A-Spec) and Volvo XC90 (from $70,950 for its gas-only powertrain; and $82,650 for the plug-in hybrid).

If true, the CX-70 is gonna be a steal.

[TypeRNammer]

From the article:



If true, the CX-70 is gonna be a steal.

I absolutely agree with you.

Because my original plan was to replace my gas car with a Prius Prime.

With the announcement of both the CX-90 and CX-70, it's definitely going to shake up the market for PHEV SUVs

[Alpine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/10snl7t/electrify_america_increasing_prices_march_6/

Looks like it didn't take long. Seems like some users are commenting that publicly charging their EV will be > than the cost of gas...

[hud 91gt]

And with Natural gas becoming a thing of the past. We’re going to get hosed whether you have an EV or not (which apparently we will all have soon). I’m still not convinced this is the technological way to go. Maybe I’m just old and bitter. Lol.

[dark0821]

https://i.imgur.com/FKnowFZ.jpg

Delivery is very different from the traditional dealer model as well.

- the car is just parked outside in the parking lot (in one of the customer parking spots)

- they unlock the car remotely and have your go inspect the car by yourself

- it either I got super lucky, or I have super low standards (I was told by peers that I have no standards LOOL so me doing QC quality control is a bad idea), but I couldnt find anything wrong with my car, all interior trims are good, all exterior are good, all panels gaps are good, everything is flush and lined up...

- once you are satisfied, they hand you a folder, you sit down by yourself at the lounge and sign away your life at all the highlighted spots

- you then hand back the folder (no physical copies are given to you, when asked, was told to go login to my account on Tesla and all documents are there and I can "print" a copy for myself if I wanted)

- once they get your folder, you do insurance, after you get your plate, someone puts the plates on

- you are led to your own car once again, and you sit thru like a 40 min tutorial video of your car on your own inside your own car

- was told to go inside if you have any questions, OR you can just leave at anytime

- I had one question, and asked where the base 110V charger is, and was told "your car does NOT come with a charger" you can buy a charger here at our store... I was like.. bro.. I just spent 50K+ and you are telling me the car doesnt even come with a charger? not even the super baseic slowass 110V one?

******Now I do deliveries myself when our delivery specialist are on their day off, and I am not sure how to feel for the whole experience. The cool thing is that it feels very streamlined, no one is there to push you so you can go as fast or as slow as you want. No one is asking to buy extra features, or warranties or coverages etc etc.

But also it feels very robotic, there is "no personal touch" at all, every person walking thru the doors to take "delivery" are all the same. The experience is not personalised at all due to your background, what you use your vehicle for etc etc. Like I focus on different features for clients that are "techy" "eldery" "using for school/work" "using for camping" etc etc...

Tesla just felt like... you are here because you are a Tesla fan, I am sure you already went thru 20 diff youtube vids before even coming here, so here are your key cards and off you go...

sorry for the rant XD ///

[Badhobz]

Feels like buying an iPhone. Take your shit and get out.

at least at the traditional dealers you get this nice personal touch. Heck, Dark even puts a big red bow on your car if you buy from him! and im sure he'll go over everything with you (or the delivery specialist) with a IMMACULATE DETAIL.

[radeonboy]

^My mother hated her Model Y delivery experience in HK. First, her car arrived 2 months early and was told she had to take delivery the same week or be put in the back of the queue. When she went in to sign the paperwork a few days before delivery, the sales team didn't offer any financing options and told my mom she was supposed to find financing on her own, yet payment was due that day so she ended up paying upfront. Finally on delivery day she was given a 10 minute crash course on operating the vehicle and was told to figure out the rest on her own by going on YouTube videos and watching videos there.

For someone like my mom that is older and not tech-saavy, the self-service ways of Tesla really put her off as she expected all the handholding from a traditional dealership experience. She felt brushed off after she the sale and it totally killed her excitement for the car.

[TypeRNammer]

That's Tesla delivery in a nut shell

Sign off and fuck off :lawl:

[Teriyaki]

From the article:



If true, the CX-70 is gonna be a steal.

Think I read somewhere long ago that the battery tech Mazda was using for this was borrowing on Toyota tech and their supply lines? If they are indeed using the same supply chain, and Toyota can barely make enough for their Rav4 Prime, I can see some serious availability issues for Mazda.

Though take that sweet RAV4 Prime tech and power, stuff it into some zoom-zoom Mazda platform does make for a pretty compelling argument if they can manage to keep prices relatively sane.

[tegra7]

Tesla dropped their prices by another $500 yesterday in the US nothing for Canada yet..

[BlackV62K2]

Tesla dropped their prices by another $500 yesterday in the US nothing for Canada yet..

I thought I read prices went up in the US, at least for the Model Y.

[cafe22]

Yeah I think it went up in the states as they no longer have their EV Credits for the Y down south.

[Gumby]

Yesterday I was offered a fully loaded 2022 Ioniq 5 with just under 3k kms for $79,990 plus fees + GST. :lol

Retail price is $60k plus taxes/fees.

Not in a rush, so I'll just continue waiting in line...

[LancerBoy]

Got this in my email last week from Boundary Hyundai:

To our valued customers , it’s been a while since we reached out and we apologize for that. We were hoping Hyundai Canada had opened up their ordering system but unfortunately that hasn’t been the case. We appreciate your patience with Hyundai Canada and the ongoing chip shortage that has plagued the production of our vehicles.



Since it has been a while and things may have changed for you, we’d like to ask you to fill out a 2 minute questionnaire to see your current situation so we can filter our list and better serve you going forward.

Please fill out the survey here à https://sales.boundaryhyundai.com/waitlist



The one update we did receive from Hyundai Canada though… Tucson/Santa Fe plug-ins and Ioniq 5 Ultimate’s will not be built in mass quantity (even though they’re our most desired vehicles) so we’d advise to switch to a different trim or a different vehicle.



We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and going forward, we’ll do a lot better. This survey will help with that.

**If you have a submitted factory order, it is still active. Hyundai Canada has stopped with the frequent email updates. Next email you will receive is when your vehicle is on a ship on its way here, at that point your sales representative will reach out again with the good news.

....Frankly, I'm quite disappointed and annoyed after waiting a year for the i5 ultimate and Hyundai couldn't deliver (not blaming the dealer at all). I wanted to believe in them but if they can't deliver and tell me to do a survey as "good customer service follow-up", and then tell me to consider a lesser or different model, then I'm walking away. At 70-75k, the i5 ultimate ain't a cheap purchase. It's like you go to buy a type R and there is absolutely no way to deliver so they want you to consider a Si.

Luckily, I got my deposit back. Just a straight refund by the receptionist, no greeting or mild apology by any sales people or GM. Oh fine, I'm done with Hyundai/Genesis then. Back to the mainstream Japanese or German brands where they can deliver. And Tesla certainly can in less than 6 months.

[JDMDreams]

^^when can mainstream Japanese or German deliver?:accepted: when did Tesla stop including chargers? And how much is it now? $600?

[LancerBoy]

Haha LOL true. Well, I put down a deposit for the new RX350h. Hopefully they can deliver in 6-8 months. Shouldn't be a problem since it's made in Canada and don't have to wait for Asia Delivery experience.

[mikemhg]

Feels like buying an iPhone. Take your shit and get out.

at least at the traditional dealers you get this nice personal touch. Heck, Dark even puts a big red bow on your car if you buy from him! and im sure he'll go over everything with you (or the delivery specialist) with a IMMACULATE DETAIL.

Very similar to an iPhone, down to the "no charger for you" :lol

[Edison_Chen]

Haha LOL true. Well, I put down a deposit for the new RX350h. Hopefully they can deliver in 6-8 months. Shouldn't be a problem since it's made in Canada and don't have to wait for Asia Delivery experience.

I’m in the same boat. We put a deposit down for the RX 350h last month on Ultra Luxury package and the said the salesperson estimated a wait of 5-8 months. A few weeks ago, I received an email from the dealer stating they submitted my order and it’s currently in “Pending Fulfillment” status and the estimated wait time is ETA.

[LancerBoy]

That's fantastic. Congrats. I got the same trim too in Iridium and black interior. Didn't consider the executive package because:

-The different wheels look like similar to the old generation.
-Only wanted the ML sound system, could live without the 1500w inverter, self park, offroad camera.
-And wanted to stay away from the Alcantara seat inserts cuz family car and kids will destroy it with mud

[Edison_Chen]

That's fantastic. Congrats. I got the same trim too in Iridium and black interior. Didn't consider the executive package because:

-The different wheels look like similar to the old generation.
-Only wanted the ML sound system, could live without the 1500w inverter, self park, offroad camera.
-And wanted to stay away from the Alcantara seat inserts cuz family car and kids will destroy it with mud


We think alike .. I also ordered the same color combination as you. The Executive package was a bit too much for us. I heard there was a shortage for vehicles with ML system. I also heard currently they only have 1 key FOB and will send out the second one in the future.

We ordered ours from Regency. No mark up or any extra useless packages I don’t want.

[LancerBoy]

Nice. Totally.

On a side note, the RX was never a sporty drivers suv so I didn't even consider the 500h. Not only is it a lot more money, my mission is fuel efficiency for the family car and not sportiness. And the turbo is pretty bad on gas based on the reviews on youtube. Although the adaptive dampers, bumper kit, and wheels are nice to have, that's not what my needs entails. I want comfy seats, not sporty seats that hug tightly.