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Nabatron
06-23-2017, 09:23 AM
He already got a lot of italian gold... lol
Man that's a fucking good return for duchene.
duchene traded?
Nabatron
06-23-2017, 09:25 AM
also while everyone is wheeling and dealing trades the canucks want to stay in the news with.....front office shake up looooool
6o4__boi
06-23-2017, 09:26 AM
nah...not yet
Snow's rumoured asking of 2 1st rounders for Hamonic is fucking retarded
But he might end up with the Avs cus they've got other pieces
pastarocket
06-23-2017, 09:26 AM
lol Sekeres reporting that Canucks will be purging their scouting department
about 20 fucking years too late
It's about time! -better late than never. :fuckthatshit:
Nabatron
06-23-2017, 09:30 AM
yeah snow been sniffin too much of that snow! He is out to lunch if he thinks hamonic is worth 2 first rounders. To me hamonic is maybe a little bit better then gudbranson but for 2 firsts come on lol
Russell 4 yrs 4mil per with oilers :lawl:
draisaitl this year (prob 7mil), and 12mil min for McDavid. then others next year like strome, slepyshev, cagguila, nurse and benning. Talbot and pulj the year after
they are fucked.
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2017, 09:49 AM
^Dreger beleives McDavid could get $14mil lol
Nabatron
06-23-2017, 09:50 AM
^yeah their payroll gunna be real fucked! wont be able to sign or resign other pieces
https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/nhl-entry-draft-picks-2017/2017/6/21/15832840/2017-nhl-draft-rankings-tsn-sportsnet-espn-hockey-prospect-iss-bob-mckenzie-craig-button
The sources used:
Bob McKenzie (TSN, ranked 100)
Craig Button (TSN, ranked 105)
HockeyProspect.com (ranked 217)
Jeff Marek (Sportsnet, ranked 100)
Corey Pronman (ESPN.com, ranked 100 skaters)
ISSHockey.com (ranked 180 skaters)
FutureConsiderations.ca (ranked 250)
DraftBuzzHockey.com (ranked 222 [as of June 21, final rankings not yet available])
McKeensHockey.com (ranked 125)
The Hockey News (ranked 100)
Hischier, Nico (1.5)
Patrick, Nolan (1.5)
Heiskanen, Miro (4.3)
Vilardi, Gabriel (4.7)
Makar, Cale (7.0)
Glass, Cody (7.1)
Mittelstadt, Casey (7.6)
Pettersson, Elias (10.3)
Tippett, Owen (10.4)
Necas, Martin (10.7)
Liljegren, Timothy (13.5)
Suzuki, Nick (13.7)
Rasmussen, Michael (15.0)
Andersson, Lias (15.4)
Tolvanen, Eeli (15.8)
Kostin, Klim (16.2)
Valimaki, Juuso (16.4)
Vesalainen, Kristian (18.3)
Foote, Callan (18.8)
Poehling, Ryan (19.9)
Brannstrom, Erik (22.0)
Yamamoto, Kailer (23.0)
Thomas, Robert (24.8)
Vaakanainen, Urho (25.8)
Ratcliffe, Isaac (27.6)
Oettinger, Jake (29.0)
Hague, Nicolas (30.1)
Robertson, Jason (31.2)
Bowers, Shane (32.2)
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier (32.6)
Lind, Kole (34.4)
Jokiharju, Henri (34.7)
Norris, Joshua (35.3)
Comtois, Maxime (36.6)
Timmins, Conor (38.4)
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret (38.7)
Chytil, Filip (41.1)
Boqvist, Jesper (42.1)
Mismash, Grant (42.7)
DiPietro, Michael (44.1)
Lipanov, Alexei (46.9)
Ikonen, Joni (47.7)
Davidsson, Marcus (47.8)
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka (47.9)
Frost, Morgan (49.0)
Heponiemi, Aleksi (49.8)
Entwistle, Mackenzie (50.2)
Strome, Matthew (51.8)
Formenton, Alex (53.5)
Popugaev, Nikita (53.6)
(#) = Average Ranking
RCubed
06-23-2017, 11:01 AM
Russell 4 yrs 4mil per with oilers :lawl:
draisaitl this year (prob 7mil), and 12mil min for McDavid. then others next year like strome, slepyshev, cagguila, nurse and benning. Talbot and pulj the year after
they are fucked.
Russell is top heavy, 5, 4.5, 4, 2.5. Fayne and Pouliot comes off the books when you have to sign some of the young guys. But then we still have to sign maroon and he could easily ask for 4+ the way hes going now.
But hey, Chicago did quite well as a cap team for a number of years.
Russell at $4 wouldn't be bad if it were 1-2 years shorter. Last year of that contract won't be good for sure.
Russell is top heavy, 5, 4.5, 4, 2.5. Fayne and Pouliot comes off the books when you have to sign some of the young guys. But then we still have to sign maroon and he could easily ask for 4+ the way hes going now.
But hey, Chicago did quite well as a cap team for a number of years.
yea, they did well before their top 2 players made 21mil combined.
edm isn't gonna win a cup before their top 2 player make 20mil combined.
Chicago is trying for oshie as well. One of Crawford/Hossa/Seabrook would have to go. Wont work if Hossa is on IR
6o4__boi
06-23-2017, 01:28 PM
^
https://twitter.com/AdamVingan/status/878363481472327680
Washington just went full retard
Oshie has done quite well in Washington so I can see why they re-signed him
6o4__boi
06-23-2017, 01:36 PM
well enough but that term though
would be a great contract if it wasn't for the fact that he's 31
^
Washington just went full retard
shit, shouldn't of went outside
Mike Oxbig
06-23-2017, 02:00 PM
Canucks want Cale Maker
trade tanev for 3rd overall + niemi
Nabatron
06-23-2017, 02:06 PM
^dallas is going to want more then tanev...i could see dallas asking tanev and 5th over all
Who knows Makar could go 1st with the amount of rumors out of nj
https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/nhl-entry-draft-picks-2017/2017/6/21/15832840/2017-nhl-draft-rankings-tsn-sportsnet-espn-hockey-prospect-iss-bob-mckenzie-craig-button
The sources used:
Bob McKenzie (TSN, ranked 100)
Craig Button (TSN, ranked 105)
HockeyProspect.com (ranked 217)
Jeff Marek (Sportsnet, ranked 100)
Corey Pronman (ESPN.com, ranked 100 skaters)
ISSHockey.com (ranked 180 skaters)
FutureConsiderations.ca (ranked 250)
DraftBuzzHockey.com (ranked 222 [as of June 21, final rankings not yet available])
McKeensHockey.com (ranked 125)
The Hockey News (ranked 100)
Hischier, Nico (1.5)
Patrick, Nolan (1.5)
Heiskanen, Miro (4.3)
Vilardi, Gabriel (4.7)
Makar, Cale (7.0)
Glass, Cody (7.1)
Mittelstadt, Casey (7.6)
Pettersson, Elias (10.3)
Tippett, Owen (10.4)
Necas, Martin (10.7)
Liljegren, Timothy (13.5)
Suzuki, Nick (13.7)
Rasmussen, Michael (15.0)
Andersson, Lias (15.4)
Tolvanen, Eeli (15.8)
Kostin, Klim (16.2)
Valimaki, Juuso (16.4)
Vesalainen, Kristian (18.3)
Foote, Callan (18.8)
Poehling, Ryan (19.9)
Brannstrom, Erik (22.0)
Yamamoto, Kailer (23.0)
Thomas, Robert (24.8)
Vaakanainen, Urho (25.8)
Ratcliffe, Isaac (27.6)
Oettinger, Jake (29.0)
Hague, Nicolas (30.1)
Robertson, Jason (31.2)
Bowers, Shane (32.2)
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier (32.6)
Lind, Kole (34.4)
Jokiharju, Henri (34.7)
Norris, Joshua (35.3)
Comtois, Maxime (36.6)
Timmins, Conor (38.4)
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret (38.7)
Chytil, Filip (41.1)
Boqvist, Jesper (42.1)
Mismash, Grant (42.7)
DiPietro, Michael (44.1)
Lipanov, Alexei (46.9)
Ikonen, Joni (47.7)
Davidsson, Marcus (47.8)
Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka (47.9)
Frost, Morgan (49.0)
Heponiemi, Aleksi (49.8)
Entwistle, Mackenzie (50.2)
Strome, Matthew (51.8)
Formenton, Alex (53.5)
Popugaev, Nikita (53.6)
(#) = Average Ranking
To build off of this, I compiled my own spreadsheet of draft rankings for further analysis using 14 different lists.
International Scouting Services Top 180
Bob McKenzie (TSN) Top 93
Craig Button (TSN) Top 105
Jeff Marek (Sportsnet) Top 100
Corey Pronman (ESPN) Top 100
Ryan Kennedy (THN) Top 120
The Hockey News Top 100 Draft Preview
The Hockey Writers Top 31
Red Line Report Top 32
Future Considerations Top 31
McKeen's Top 31
Dobber Prospects Top 31
The Draft Analyst Top 217
Hockey Prospects
avg = Average ranking
med = Median ranking
range = Highest to lowest ranking
Tier 1:
Nolan Patrick (1.29 avg, 1.0 med, 1-2 range)
Nico Hischier (1.79 avg, 2.0 med, 1-3 range)
Tier 2:
Gabriel Vilardi (5.00 avg, 4.0 med, 3-11 range)
Miro Heiskanen (5.21 avg, 3.5 med, 3-13 range)
Casey Mittelstadt (6.43 avg, 6.5 med, 2-12 range)
Cody Glass (6.86 avg, 6.0 med, 3-14 range)
Cale Makar (6.93 avg, 5.5 med, 3-19 range)
Tier 3:
Owen Tippett (10.29 avg, 7.5 med, 4-23 range)
Elias Pettersson (10.79 avg, 9.0 med, 5-20 range)
Martin Necas (10.79 avg, 10.5 med, 7-16 range)
Nick Suzuki (13.57 avg, 12.0 med, 5-26 range)
Timothy Liljegren (13.71 avg, 11.5 med, 7-28 range)
Tier 4:
Eeli Tolvanen (14.29 avg, 14.5 med, 6-24 range)
Michael Rasmussen (14.86 avg, 15.5 med, 8-23 range)
Jusso Valimaki (15.93 avg, 16.5 med, 12-23 range)
Lias Andersson (16.36 avg, 16.0 med, 11-25 range)
Kristian Vesalainen (16.62 avg, 19.0 med, 6-26 range)
Klim Kostin (16.79 avg, 17.0 med, 8-24 range)
Callan Foote (19.07 avg, 17.5 med, 12-30 range)
Kailer Yamamoto (19.77 avg, 20.0 med, 13-26 range)
Erik Brannstrom (20.07 avg, 18.5 med, 11-41 range)
Tier 5:
Ryan Poehling (21.57 avg, 21.0 med, 12-32 range)
Nicolas Hague (24.46 avg, 22.0 med, 17-43 range)
Robert Thomas (25.64 avg, 25.0 med, 15-46 range)
Urho Vaakanainen (26.23 avg, 29.0 med, 11-38 range)
Isaac Ratcliffe (26.75 avg, 22.5 med, 13-62 range)
Jake Oettinger (28.00 avg, 29.0 med, 20-32 range)
Shane Bowers (30.50 avg, 29.5 med, 26-42 range)
Jason Robertson (30.69 avg, 28.0 med, 9-53 range)
Maxime Comtois (30.90 avg, 28.5 med, 19-58 range)
Kole Lind (33.22 avg, 29.0 med, 24-54 range)
Joshua Norris (34.5 avg, 29.5 med, 23-67 range)
Galenchyuk's agent reporting they are in midst of contract extension talks with the Habs. Might be sign and trade
highfive
06-23-2017, 02:36 PM
If Benning goes in and do nothing butkeep our current picks. I would be pretty to get a centre at 5 of Glass, Vilardi, or Petersson.
Use the 2nd rounders to find yourself a defenceman such as a weber, keith, subban,etc.
I forgot where I was reading but they don't mind taking Kostin if he slides down. I wouldn't mind flipping 2 2nd rounders for him.
All I care about is getting glass, and Salo with the late 2nd or 3rd. Petterson is acceptable if we trade back to 7th or 8th. Should be able to get a good player that dropped from 1st rnd to 2nd with the 33rd
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2017, 02:53 PM
Hoping for the smallest chance Liljegren falls to 17. Lou has been spotted talking to Garth Snow 3 times on the draft floor so who knows what will happen. I'm having to work OT so I will miss it. No getting off early and racing home like last year.
murd0c
06-23-2017, 03:04 PM
What time is the first pick supposed to take place and any live streaming?
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2017, 03:07 PM
I've read that last year's 1st overall was selected at 4:18
Armind
06-23-2017, 03:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffMF6ugyRbc
murd0c
06-23-2017, 03:16 PM
Nico is first heck ya
murd0c
06-23-2017, 03:23 PM
Patrick picked second, lets see if Dallas's pick gets moved now
murd0c
06-23-2017, 03:28 PM
Colorado better not fuck us out of Makar now!!
We shouldn't take makar, too big of a risk. Should go for solid pick like glass or vilardi
Vilardi if he's there. Otherwise Glass, Mittelstadt, or Makar. Don't make the risky Pettersson pick.
Armind
06-23-2017, 03:33 PM
:lawl:
Colorado better not fuck us out of Makar now!!
Vilardi Benning, don't fuck it up.
highfive
06-23-2017, 03:39 PM
Fuck
Armind
06-23-2017, 03:39 PM
WTFFFFFFFFF :fuuuuu:
Meh. Could of traded down to get him at 7 or 8. Has best skill potential out of forwards in first
highfive
06-23-2017, 03:40 PM
Pls prove me wrong elias
radioman
06-23-2017, 03:40 PM
And here come the arm chair scouts disagreeing with the pick :troll:
Memories of boeser
Armind
06-23-2017, 03:41 PM
Nothing to see here :inout:
highfive
06-23-2017, 03:45 PM
And here come the arm chair scouts disagreeing with the pick :troll:
Memories of boeser
But size of glass and vilardi makes it less risky.
He's not bad for playing in men's league last season
ISS Scouting Report
Scouting Report | Shifty playmaking center has been lighting up the scoresheet and finished the season with 41 pts in 43 games. Had six points in three playoff games, however wasn't enough to help Timra advance. Has received mixed reviews from ISS staff thoughout the season. Had just an average performance at World Juniors Championships worked hard & competed just couldn't get his offensive game going. Good with and without the puck in all three zones, reads the play very well. Good skater and puck skills. Versitile can play both C and LW and has good defensive instincts. He makes players around him better. Like the upside but needs to bulk up and add some grit to have success at next level.
Dir. Of Scouting, Dennis MacInnis | “Smart two-way center. Good skating stride with quality puck skills. Moves well and has offensive upside but his slight frame scares me and he will need to bulk up big time to have a chance to play Pro”
ISS Scout Ben Gallant | “Liked this player, high end effort on each shift. Good puck protection ability and will take hit to make plays, Crafty hands and vision. Skating ability is good with change of pace and lateral movement. Tools to be a playmaker at the NHL level”.
ISS Scout Rocco Zappia | “Offensive winger who can both score goals and make plays. Good skater, not a burner but is still an asset. Nice hands, impressive puck handling ability. Ability to eventually play on a scoring line at the NHL level with development”.
Hondaracer
06-23-2017, 03:52 PM
Benning is such a fucking jokeuhgggg
highfive
06-23-2017, 03:54 PM
https://twitter.com/taj1944/status/878399350073827328
Hahahah I'll leave this here
Eastwood
06-23-2017, 03:58 PM
What was the general consensus our guy would get drafted?
eaves 3 yr deal with ducks
highfive
06-23-2017, 04:01 PM
Vilardi dropping...
At least Detroit made a worse pick than we did.
Liquid_o2
06-23-2017, 04:02 PM
This is what we get after a terrible season, finishing 2nd worst overall?
Ughhhhhhh
I hope we are proven wrong, but this is a risky risky pick.
punkwax
06-23-2017, 04:03 PM
Ya must not interview very well...
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2017, 04:03 PM
HF main board seems to like the Canucks pick.
Vilardi dropping...
Looking like this year's Filip Forsberg/Cam Fowler
Liquid_o2
06-23-2017, 04:08 PM
LA likely taking Vilardi. Keep that heavy hockey style going.
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2017, 04:25 PM
Crap, Suzuki gone
highfive
06-23-2017, 04:41 PM
Liljegren still around. I thought he would be a top 10 pick too
HF main board seems to like the Canucks pick.
potentially the best stickhandling/offensive skillset in the draft. his major knock is that hes 160pounds, but I heard hes gonna team up with Virtanen to pack on the pounds
Toronto picking Liljegren I'd assume
murd0c
06-23-2017, 04:45 PM
great pick for Toronto
highfive
06-23-2017, 04:46 PM
https://twitter.com/tsn1040/status/878413092681646081
Fucking benning lol
disappointing to steal, just because he got drafted by the leafs :lawl:
still no dman that can actually play d
Eeli Tolvanen dropping too
highfive
06-23-2017, 04:51 PM
Damn. Should just draft the girl next to vaakanainen
Rangers WAAAAAAY off the board at 21
B Schenn to STL for Lehtera, 27th, cond pick
murd0c
06-23-2017, 05:47 PM
I really wondering what the Canucks will go for with the second pick tomorrow if they don't trade up here.
stan bowman smug as fuck there.
Tolvanen and Kostin still available.. maybe for tomorrow
highfive
06-23-2017, 06:01 PM
That would be nice. Kostin would be good
Hopefully Kostin falls to 33rd.
murd0c
06-23-2017, 06:03 PM
Kostin would be nice but I'm thinking Benning would be worried of him running off to the KHL... Watch the Blues take him tho.
How does Reaves and 51st garner 31st and a prospect?
punkwax
06-23-2017, 06:08 PM
And there goes Kostin.
murd0c
06-23-2017, 06:08 PM
I called that shit
murd0c
06-23-2017, 06:09 PM
And there goes Kostin. Pretty sure he'll stick with the Pens lol
but the Blues drafted him FailFish
murd0c
06-23-2017, 06:10 PM
alright so what are the top prospects on the board we can grab?
highfive
06-23-2017, 06:10 PM
Well fuck haha
murd0c
06-23-2017, 06:30 PM
I hope the Canucks pick Nic Hague with their 33rd pick tomorrow, guy is going to be a beast and can throw them like the best of them. He's compared to to Darrin Hatcher and Chris Pronger which isn't that shabby either.
alright so what are the top prospects on the board we can grab?
Ratcliffe, Isaac
Hague, Nicolas
Robertson, Jason
Lind, Kole
Comtois, Maxime
Timmins, Conor
Anderson-Dolan, Jaret
Boqvist, Jesper
Mismash, Grant
DiPietro, Michael
Vancouver Canucks: Elias Pettersson
ISS:
Scouting Report | Shifty playmaking center has been lighting up the scoresheet and finished the season with 41 pts in 43 games. Had six points in three playoff games, however wasn't enough to help Timra advance. Has received mixed reviews from ISS staff thoughout the season. Had just an average performance at World Juniors Championships worked hard & competed just couldn't get his offensive game going. Good with and without the puck in all three zones, reads the play very well. Good skater and puck skills. Versitile can play both C and LW and has good defensive instincts. He makes players around him better. Like the upside but needs to bulk up and add some grit to have success at next level.
Dir. Of Scouting, Dennis MacInnis | “Smart two-way center. Good skating stride with quality puck skills. Moves well and has offensive upside but his slight frame scares me and he will need to bulk up big time to have a chance to play Pro”
ISS Scout Ben Gallant | “Liked this player, high end effort on each shift. Good puck protection ability and will take hit to make plays, Crafty hands and vision. Skating ability is good with change of pace and lateral movement. Tools to be a playmaker at the NHL level”.
ISS Scout Rocco Zappia | “Offensive winger who can both score goals and make plays. Good skater, not a burner but is still an asset. Nice hands, impressive puck handling ability. Ability to eventually play on a scoring line at the NHL level with development”.
Current Team Timra (SweAI)
Position C
DOB November 12/1998
Height 6.01.25
Weight 156
Size/Strength Good
Skating Very Good
Puck Skills Very Good
Shot Good
Offensive Play Very Good
Defensive Play Good
Physical Play Good
Competitiveness Very Good
Hockey Sense Very Good
Strengths: 1. Playmaking Ability 2. Vision 3. Work Ethic
Weaknesses: 1. Physical Play 2. Strength
Skill: Talented forward with dangerous offensive tools and good speed.
NHL Potential: 3rd line center with offensive upside
The Hockey News:
Listed generously, some would say extremely generously, at 161 pounds, Pettersson has an enormous amount of filling out to do before he even thinks of playing at the NHL level. But after being a near point-per-game player for Timra in Sweden's Allsvenskan, Pettersson will put his offensive gifts on display with Vaxjo in the top league next year.
Aside from size and strength, basically all the boxes are ticked off. He has tremendous vision, very good puck skills and a competitive instinct. Pettersson has the ability to produce as a goal scorer and playmaker. But there are scouts who wonder whether he'll be able to handle the rigors of playing in the NHL. "The way he plays now, he stays out of some of the high-traffic situations," said a scout. "So you have to ask yourself whether it's smart to not put yourself in those situations or is it because he's scared? Only one person can answer that. You have to determine whether it's intelligent self-preservation or it's a lack of accountability."
The feeling is he'll get more physical and involved as he puts on weight and gains strength.
I hope the Canucks pick Nic Hague with their 33rd pick tomorrow, guy is going to be a beast and can throw them like the best of them. He's compared to to Darrin Hatcher and Chris Pronger which isn't that shabby either.
https://twitter.com/ryanbiech/status/878437532949782528
highfive
06-23-2017, 07:47 PM
Damn. Did willie d make that grading system? Good? Very good?
https://twitter.com/ryanbiech/status/878404650059300864
I'm feeling better about this pick
cdizzle_996
06-23-2017, 07:58 PM
Sick move, but a NHL d man woulda ran right though him.
Damn. Did willie d make that grading system? Good? Very good?
https://twitter.com/ryanbiech/status/878404650059300864
I'm feeling better about this pick
Willie D would rate everything "Real good"
Mike Oxbig
06-23-2017, 08:19 PM
Who did they say Elias Pettersson comparison was?
TjAlmeida
06-23-2017, 08:23 PM
Elias looks to have lots of potential. Just needs to put on 40lbs.
radioman
06-23-2017, 08:36 PM
Who did they say Elias Pettersson comparison was?
Backstrom
Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2017, 09:03 PM
Don Taylor compared Pettersson to Squire Barnes.
Who did they say Elias Pettersson comparison was?
THN says Zetterberg
ISS says Stastny
Others say Backstrom
Not that comparables mean anything.
Tim Budong
06-23-2017, 09:13 PM
lanky kid who our own swede Jonathan Dahlbak or whatever his name is played with him
theres that...
probably best knowing the canucks still have them ginger twins to lead the swede kids
but that scouting shakeup
please happen PLEAsE
speaking of which.. the count has fully transformed
https://streamable.com/ip0v4
https://theleafsnation.com/2017/06/07/using-adjusted-ppg-to-evaluate-the-2017-nhl-draft-class/
Great article on point adjustments for all prospects and how they're likely to succeed based on it
For all of you guys bitching about the Canucks choice
Petersson put up more points than anyone in Div 1 in ~13 years at his age.
Double the amount of points David Pastrnak had, and double the goals Filip Forsberg had.
murd0c
06-24-2017, 06:19 AM
Hmm kole Lind as our second round pick
Tim Budong
06-24-2017, 06:41 AM
curious to see how that goes
almost time for the 55th pick
Nabatron
06-24-2017, 06:51 AM
gajovich to the canucks
Tim Budong
06-24-2017, 06:52 AM
Canucks loading up on versatile forwards
lookin good so far
Nabatron
06-24-2017, 06:58 AM
gadjovich is a sold pick does a lot of work infront of the net and corners!
Tim Budong
06-24-2017, 07:08 AM
Miller/Markstrom is most likely tradebait next season
especially if Miller takes the rumored incentive ladened contract
Canucks picked a goalie! Michael DiPeitro!
https://theleafsnation.com/2017/06/07/using-adjusted-ppg-to-evaluate-the-2017-nhl-draft-class/
Great article on point adjustments for all prospects and how they're likely to succeed based on it
For all of you guys bitching about the Canucks choice
Petersson put up more points than anyone in Div 1 in ~13 years at his age.
Double the amount of points David Pastrnak had, and double the goals Filip Forsberg had.
Theres also been significant changes to his league in the last couple years which has made it a lesser division than when Forsberg played in it
And DiPietro is a good pick with the 3rd especially cuz he's not related to rick
Tegra_Devil
06-24-2017, 08:12 AM
Travis hamonic .....sweet!
Tim Budong
06-24-2017, 08:24 AM
Travis hamonic .....sweet!
that cgy blueline
iwantaskyline
06-24-2017, 08:46 AM
https://theleafsnation.com/2017/06/07/using-adjusted-ppg-to-evaluate-the-2017-nhl-draft-class/
Great article on point adjustments for all prospects and how they're likely to succeed based on it
For all of you guys bitching about the Canucks choice
Petersson put up more points than anyone in Div 1 in ~13 years at his age.
Double the amount of points David Pastrnak had, and double the goals Filip Forsberg had.
He played in Div 2 last year........................
Kole Lind
ISS
Scouting Report | Lind is a skilled center that continued to turn heads with his play throughout the course of the season. More than doubled his point totals from 41 pts to 87 points this year. Smart, sneaky good shot, has good vision, very offensive, does a lot of good things away from the puck, back checks hard and has a good stick. Has all the tools to be first rounder and impact pro player, his vision and skill set are high end, he is one of the best pure passers in the WHL but needs to play with a lot more jam, can be more aggressive and tougher. He finishes checks only to rub people out, he can play with more of an edge and be more involved physically. His passing, vision and hockey sense really stand out. Quite player that seems to get things done and show up on the scoresheet.
Dir. Of Scouting, Dennis MacInnis | “Good offensive player. Moves the puck well. Has great hands. Needs to improve strength to excel at the next level. Will need to improve defensive positioning and physicality to round out game”.
ISS Scout Milan Dragicevic | “Very smart, sees the ice, and responsible in all 3 zones. When he plays with an edge he got some room to make plays, he makes his line mates better as he passes so well. His overall game is improving and he is having a big impact in the games”.
ISS Scout Ted Barrie | “Good OZ net front presence. Iimproved his defensive game since start of season rounding out his complete game. Has the capabilities & just needs to find that consistent game in game out effort”.
Size/Strength Very Good
Skating Very Good
Puck Skills Very Good
Shot Good
Offensive Play Very Good
Defensive Play Very Good
Physical Play Good
Competitiveness Very Good
Hockey Sense Very Good
Strengths 1. Playmaking Ability 2. Offensive Instincts 3. Hockey IQ
Weaknesses 1. Strength 2. Consistency
Skill Creative center who reads the game extremely well and has strong offensive tools. . NHL Potential Secondary scoring option could fit in well on second PP unit.
Style Comparison Ryan Johansen
THN:
One scout had an interesting take on the late-blooming Lind. "His game is a little more subdued," the scout said. "He's kind of like that introverted girl at the party that you spend 20 minutes talking to and you're like, 'Man, why haven't I asked her out?'"
Which is a unique way of saying there is not a whole lot of sizzle or flash to Lind's game, but there is a lot to like about how he goes about his on-ice business. Most scouts describe Lind as an up-and-down winger who can make plays and contribute offensively.
After more than doubling his point totals in his second WHL season in Kelowna, the lanky right winger is giving the sense he can do more than just skate and go up and down his wing, although he can do those things very well. "He's one of those guys you look at the scoresheet and he had a little more of an impact on the game than you thought he did," said another scout.
"When you think of a player who can move quickly and make plays at a high pace and tempo, that's him. He's not a heavy guy, but he does have skill."
Jonah Gadjovich
ISS:
Scouting Report | Owen Sound’s 2nd round pick in 2014, he already completed his 3rd season with the team almost tripling his point total each season. He led the league in Power Play goals this season with 17. Jonah is a gifted goal scorer. Seldom misses a chance to shoot the puck. Excels on the PP in front of the net, retrieves pucks, makes plays. He can win puck battles with his size and strength. Smart offensive instincts. Not the fastest skater, he needs to improve his quickness and acceleration. He could play more physical and improve his defensive game. Foot speed could be a concern at the next level. His hockey sense could allow him to play a depth role in the NHL and if his skating can improve he could be a bottom 6 winger with upside.
Dir. Of Scouting, Dennis MacInnis | “Power forward finished with good physical play. Hands are fine with very good shot, shoots for rebound and drives net. Skating is average with slow first few steps but has improved slightly. Like his compete level and won most of his 1/1 battles. I like his upside especially if he keeps improving his skating”.
ISS Scout Phil Myre | “Big power winger who plays a hard north/south game. First few steps are slow and feet can look heavy at times. Decent speed when he gets going. Will go to the dirty areas and engage physically. Plays with a high compete level. Good hands in tight around the net and posses a very hard shot”.
Size/Strength Very Good
Skating Average
Puck Skills Very Good
Shot Excellent
Offensive Play Very Good
Defensive Play Average
Physical Play Good
Competitiveness Good
Hockey Sense Very Good
Strengths 1. Scoring 2. Shot 3. Offensive Play
Weaknesses 1. Quickness & Acceleration 2. Defensive Play
Skill Big strong winger who drives his way into scoring areas and has a good nose for the net.
NHL Potential 3rd line north-south forward who can chip in offensively
THN:
Playing on a line with fellow 2017 draft prospect Nick Suzuki, Gadjovich scored 33 points in his first two OHL years, then exploded for 74 this season.
There might be a temptation to chalk that up to riding on Suzuki's coattails, but that's not the case. "He certainly benefitted from playing with Suzuki," said a scout, "but Gadjovich did all the dirty work on that line. He gets to play with Suzuki because he does things that other guys won't do. He's big enough and strong enough to do it."
To be sure, Gadjovich's play in the corners and in front of the net are his strongest assets. At this stage of his development, he's projected to be a third-liner at the NHL level, with a chance to move up to a top-six forward depending on whether he continues to develop well.
Skating is a concern with talent evaluators, but not a huge one. "He plays a really hard, heavy game," said another scout. "He's not the greatest skater, but he knows his way around the net. He's shown the ability to play with a top talent and not be passive."
Michael DiPietro
ISS:
Scouting Report | Michael was a member of Canada’s U18 Team and played in the CHL Prospects Game. Certainly, helped his draft status with his outstanding performance during 2017 Mastercard Memorial Cup leading Windsor to victory. An average size goalie, he is very quick and fast. He has very good skills, catches very well. Plays with a lot of intensity and very competitive. Never quits on a shot. Tends to be overactive at times. Plays an aggressive position, good angles but sometimes out too far of his net. Tracks the puck well, needs work on rebounds. Plays with a low crouch at times making him look smaller. Handles the puck aggressively. A six-footer with NHL potential.
ISS Scout Phil Myre | “He's very quick and competitive. Has very good skills Plays angles aggressively. Very good lateral movement, Has the ability to make big time saves. He can handle the puck aggressively but gets himself in trouble occasionally. Has potential, size is a concern in terms of NHL projection”.
ISS Scout Mike Torchia | “Michael plays a very aggressive game which you think may get him in trouble but because of his exceptional footwork he is able to do so. You can see the character and passion he has for the game and he always seems to play with it. Definite difference maker”.
Size/Strength Average
Quickness/Foot Speed Excellent
Rebound Control Average
Recovery Average
Balance/Control Good
Glove Very Good
Blocker Very Good
Lateral Movement Excellent
Focus/Concentration Very Good
Positioning/Poise Average
Stick Use Very Good
Puck Handling Skill Above Average
NHL Potential Starting goaltender with development
THN:
Goalies like DiPietro aren't supposed to succeed anymore. The kid, who's not related to former NHLer Rick DiPietro, doesn't have that desirable height, yet he duelled one of the best in all of major junior in the first playoff round and fared well. That his Windsor squad couldn't beat Tyler Parsons and London is no indictment, and DiPietro's intangibles are great. "His love for the game is pretty infectious," said one scout. "He's a good goalie."
And if you're looking for a nickname for the netminder, try 'The Grinch.' That's because DiPietro spoiled three straight Teddy Bear Toss games by shutting out home teams Barrie, North Bay and Sudbury.
Needless to say, he'd also like to spoil the notion that you have to be tall if you want to be an NHL goalie. "He's the best (draft-eligible) in the OHL, hands down," said another scout. "The only knock on him is he's not 6-foot-3, but at the end of the day, he stops pucks, and I've never seen him beat for a goal because of his height. He's athletic and anticipates well. He plays a big game. He challenges shooters and keeps his shoulders erect."
Petrus Palmu in the 6th is a decent pick. lots of skill but 5'7". overager and will play in liiga next year
He played in Div 2 last year........................
This
Elitserien > Allsvenskan
highfive
06-24-2017, 09:24 AM
https://twitter.com/4tommartin/status/878635525015556096
Either way. It's a riskier pick. We will see in a few years how this pans out. Give them time like horvat and see how it goes!
6o4__boi
06-24-2017, 09:39 AM
Im a fan of the Gadjovich pick
Kid already looks like he's got the size and looks the part. As we won't be seeing Pettersson in the young stars and preseason, Gadjovich and Lind will be interesting to watch.
pastarocket
06-24-2017, 09:54 AM
Pettersson is definitely gonna spend time in the gym to work on his strength and conditioning.
Deadlifts and other exercises to build muscle for the kid.
not a bad pick by Dim Jim. -huge offensive offside for Pettersson. :considered:
only thing worrisome about Gadjovich is that he really only started putting up goals when Suzuki went on his tear.
I don't really like the overage Swedish d at 135. little to no offense.
Rathborne is a good friend of Demko. Hope he convinces him to only do 1 or 2 years at Harvard
highfive
06-24-2017, 09:56 AM
DiPietro looks like a good pick. Seems like lots of European picks. Maybe Gradin's I told you so finally got to Benning.
dapperfied
06-24-2017, 11:12 AM
I hope Benning proves us all wrong lol
DiPietro looks like a good pick. Seems like lots of European picks. Maybe Gradin's I told you so finally got to Benning.
https://twitter.com/TSN1040/status/878299545158995968
He also said the changes might go as high as Weisbrod.
You can all but guarantee that Gradin and the Euro scouts will be left untouched, same with Judd Brackett and the USHL guys.
Nabatron
06-24-2017, 02:04 PM
if you guys noticed up on stage that ron delorme wasn't there hoping its a sign that he is gone
if you guys noticed up on stage that ron delorme wasn't there hoping its a sign that he is gone
About time.
Nabatron
06-24-2017, 03:38 PM
also like the short fin Petrus Palmu seems like a stud!
highfive
06-24-2017, 04:04 PM
^ overage guy though. I worry he's the finnis dane fox.
It's nice we finally have some depth at centre position with Petersson and Lind
i wouldn't compare him to fox. the height really hurts his chances
Obsideon
06-24-2017, 05:55 PM
I'm playing NHL17 and Petersson isn't even available in franchise mode lol was he not on the radar at the beginning of the season?
I'm playing NHL17 and Petersson isn't even available in franchise mode lol was he not on the radar at the beginning of the season?
His league isn't in NHL 17
Teams are able to talk to UFA's from today. Anyone think the canucks will sign a d? (kulikov)
Teams are able to talk to UFA's from tomorrow. Anyone think the canucks will sign a d? (kulikov)
Assuming our D is:
Edler-Stecher
Hutton-Tanev
???-Gudbranson
Biega
???
We have $19.5M in cap space spent on 17 players currently, but that doesn't include Horvat and Miller, which you have to figure is going to combine for around $10M
So $9.5M to spend on 4 more guys. I guess we COULD drop $4-$5M on a 2nd/3rd pair dman, but is that a smart idea?
murd0c
06-25-2017, 07:08 PM
sounds like its time to finally bring up Jordan Subban
We need two more LHD to fill those holes, though. He can take Biega's spot (not that Biega is bad, but he's nothing special).
https://twitter.com/dhaliwalsports/status/879096534758899712
I'm thinking we stay away from a large contract with miller.
Alzner-Tanev would make a good shutdown duo, but then that leaves Hutton-Gudbranson which wasn't good last year.
Alzner-Gudbranson wouldn't move the puck well enough.
Maybe Alzner-Stecher and re-unite Edler-Tanev (but still same issue w/ Hutton-Guddy)
Jordan Weal, meh ... Maybe for Utica.
thinking if we sign alzner, tanev or hutton are gone. id prefer kulikov to alzner when playing with gudbranson. just because they have done decent together before
also chiarelli has said he will match any offer sheet for draisaitl. hope the habs offer 9mil for the hell of it
Mike Oxbig
06-25-2017, 10:19 PM
The top 30 unrestricted free agents of 2017 | The Hockey News (http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/the-top-30-unrestricted-free-agents-of-2017)
Pretty shitty list for UFA this year
SAM GAGNER??
6o4__boi
06-26-2017, 07:49 AM
Nice thing about Hutt-Gud pairing is at least they're both young enough to hopefully still improve.
That and Gud has a lot to prove this season...glad he only got 1 year. If he shits the bed this year, he's as good as gone.
pastarocket
06-26-2017, 07:57 AM
Selanne is entering the Hockey Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility. No surprise.
Finnish Flash gets his recognition. :thumbsup:
Selanne a lock for Hockey Hall of Fame - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/selanne-a-lock-for-hockey-hall-of-fame-1.789069)
6o4__boi
06-26-2017, 09:29 AM
Nail Yakupov will not be qualified by the Blues, will be a UFA
I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him, bottom six role at best, Utica call up option at worst. Doubt KHL will be interested in him either.
Gotta be an upgrade over Megna at the very least, right
:fuckthatshit:
Bouncing Bettys
06-26-2017, 09:36 AM
Every kid on my team, including myself, was copying Selanne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CX0LGEa8Qw
Nail Yakupov will not be qualified by the Blues, will be a UFA
I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him, bottom six role at best, Utica call up option at worst. Doubt KHL will be interested in him either.
Gotta be an upgrade over Megna at the very least, right
:fuckthatshit:
Would've been $2.5M to qualify him, so not surprised.
Kulikov is meh and Alzer apparently sucked last season (he does fulfill the need for LHD) because he can't skate and his positioning was poor. There was an article where he talks about blocking so many shots that he has difficulty opening jars now.
2017 NHL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac (http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-agents/defenseman/ufa/)
Based on that list, I'd probably try and get a guy like Franson (RHD - 29 @ 3.325m) or value signings like Hunwick (LHD - 32 @ 1.2m), Hainsey (LHD - 36 @ 2.8m), Smith (LHD - 28 @ 2.75m) or even Campbell (LHD - 38 @ 1.5m)
We're not going after the guys that will produce big numbers like Shattenkirk, Markov etc. Canucks are realistically another 3+ seasons away from being competitive, so they really just need to sign some veteran LHD guys to help tide them over and mentor the younger D guys. Having cheaper vets like Hainsey and Campbell can do that, although, I'm not entirely too sure as to whether Campbell is sticking to CHI or not.
Selanne, Kariya head Hockey Hall of Fame's Class of 2017 - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/selanne-kariya-head-hockey-hall-of-fame-s-class-of-2017-1.789412)
Finnish Flash and his close friend and former teammate will be inducted with Dave Andreychuk, Mark Recchi, Danielle Goyette and builders Clare Drake and Jeremy Jacobs.
6o4__boi
06-26-2017, 11:26 AM
dead
:lawl: :lawl: :lawl:
https://twitter.com/AbdiOmerr/status/876919188018868226
alzner has a bunch of red flags. admitted his wife has to open jars for him because he has no strength in his hands due to all the bones broken from blocked shots. rather give holm a shot and tank I guess.
Also prefer weal over yakupov
boucher, gaunce, labate,chaput all qualified. still no confirmation on them qualifying bo
https://twitter.com/DhaliwalSports/status/879440315148419072
ugh, hope its just because bure played here
6o4__boi
06-26-2017, 01:00 PM
Like i said, pretty low risk signing a guy like Yak here. Given a decent set up man, he could be a 10-15 goal scorer.
I'd rather see him get some minutes over Megna or Chaput.
Ty Rattie was also not qualified. Went unclaimed at the waivers last season. I wouldn't mind him either.
Basically lots of decent low risk stop gaps available while the kids develop, it couldn't hurt.
Expresso
06-26-2017, 01:03 PM
Sign for 1 year, trade to contender!
If it's for less than $1M on a 1-year deal, sure.
I don't see room on the team and I doubt he wants to go to the ahl
sedin-sedin- granlund
baer-bo-boeser
Eriksson-sutter-goldobin
boucher-gaunce-dorsett
weal?rodin?
murd0c
06-26-2017, 01:35 PM
I wonder if we are even going to resign Rodin
6o4__boi
06-26-2017, 01:42 PM
Boucher yet to be re-signed, Goldobin isn't a slam-dunk to make the team.
Aren't Granlund, Gaunce and Dorsett injured and will likely be missing training camp/first few months?
Pretty sure I saw somewhere that Rodin is going back to Europe, I could be wrong though.
^rodin said he was interested in staying with vancouver
seems too quiet from canucks. 5pm et deadline for rfa's and no news on bo or rodin being qualified lmao
Rodin is a Group VI UFA
Didn't play enough games
Signing Yak to a low cost/low term contract would be the kind of low risk/high reward signings that I expect from Benning this off-season. There's not a lot of quality UFAs to sign, and the Canucks aren't contending, so no point in dishing out huge money.
6o4__boi
06-26-2017, 02:10 PM
notable names missed: Garteig and Cramarossa
https://twitter.com/CanucksPR/status/879460882828283904
68style
06-26-2017, 02:45 PM
Rodin should stick around now that Willie's gone... might actually play
notable names missed: Garteig and Cramarossa
https://twitter.com/CanucksPR/status/879460882828283904
ECHL goaltender, 26 in November ... Alaska folded, so the Canucks don't even have an ECHL affiliate they can send him to; would have to send him to another team's affiliate where they likely have their own #5 getting the bulk of the starts.
As for Cramarossa, he didn't do anything in his 10 games for the Canucks. 0 points, 1 fight. His upside isn't high. No big loss.
fliptuner
06-26-2017, 02:54 PM
Selanne, Kariya and Recchi into the HOF
No place for gartieg with Demko and DiPietro
2017-18 Demko Bachman
2018-19 Demko ?/DiPietro
2019-20 Demko/? DiPietro
Selanne, Kariya and Recchi into the HOF
That's Dr. Recchi
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/eiQaLbACz_qteW1hAup6xg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NjMwO2g9MzUwO2lsPX BsYW5l/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/SEDIDIDID.jpg
No place for gartieg with Demko and DiPietro
WP
2017-18 Demko Bachman
2018-19 Demko ?/DiPietro
2019-20 Demko/? DiPietro
DiPietro isn't eligible for the AHL until 2019.
604778
06-26-2017, 04:35 PM
Yakupov has interest in signing in Vancouver.
Mike Oxbig
06-26-2017, 04:36 PM
Yakupov has interest in signing in Vancouver.
http://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/report-nail-yakupov-interested-in-signing-with-the-canucks-1.20777121
Canucks needs to sign yakupov to give a reason for us fans to watch a former 1st overall pick redeem himself with goldobin hockey.
AzNightmare
06-26-2017, 05:02 PM
:lol I'm sure Yakupov is interested in signing with any team willing to give him a chance. lol
highfive
06-26-2017, 06:22 PM
I'm surprised Grigorenko not qualified either. I wouldn't mind giving him a contract to play. Big centre for bottom 6.
I'm surprised Grigorenko not qualified either. I wouldn't mind giving him a contract to play. Big centre for bottom 6.
I'm not sure you would want someone that can't skate in today's game.
Nabatron
06-26-2017, 07:53 PM
i would sign yakupov for just the pure upside he has...also would need a guy who would be ideal on the pp. Lets face it tho having a former first over all who is a pure sniper if given the chance should produce!
i would sign yakupov for just the pure upside he has...also would need a guy who would be ideal on the pp. Lets face it tho having a former first over all who is a pure sniper if given the chance should produce!
Might also help that his idol was Pavel, the reason he wears #10.
bobbinka
06-26-2017, 08:39 PM
so Vegas takes Methot from the Sens.... only to flip him to Dallas for a goalie that was JUST drafted on Friday in the 7th round, and a 2020 2nd round pick.
Wtf. i'm sure Ottawa would've been more than willing to give Vegas a 7th + 2nd + whatever else they wanted, to ensure they DIDNT take Methot in the first place.
so Vegas takes Methot from the Sens.... only to flip him to Dallas for a goalie that was JUST drafted on Friday in the 7th round, and a 2020 2nd round pick.
Wtf. i'm sure Ottawa would've been more than willing to give Vegas a 7th + 2nd + whatever else they wanted, to ensure they DIDNT take Methot in the first place.
Yeah, the whole Methot to Dallas trade doesn't really make much sense.
The only thing I can think of that happened was how McPhee was too public about his intention to trade most of his defenseman away. When you come out and publicly state something like that, then it puts you in a position of weakness. He basically screwed himself.
Nabatron
06-26-2017, 09:58 PM
^yeah u could see Mcphee pulled a Benning and announced to the world his fucking plan of flipping Dmen for picks...rookie mistake lol
6o4__boi
06-27-2017, 11:25 AM
Per Friedman
Goalie market: there is a lot of expectation of Ryan Miller to Anaheim for approximately $1 million, although I’m not sure if bonuses will be added to that. It makes a lot of sense.
Jim Benning be like
https://media.giphy.com/media/iRjB2mfESqgec/giphy.gif
spoon.ek9
06-27-2017, 11:58 AM
so we're going with Markstrom/Bachman this season....? :|
Is it too late to bring tank commander Willie back for another season?
so we're going with Markstrom/Bachman this season....? :|
Bachman played well enough to justify giving him the backup role. Canucks aren't contending for a cup, so having Miller in net actually hurts the Canucks chances of landing that coveted top 5 pick next draft. The 2018 draft is supposed to be stacked with top end talent. If you guys think you were excited this draft, wait until they land one of those stud picks next season.
Short term pain for long term gain.
spoon.ek9
06-27-2017, 02:03 PM
yeah i guess that's a good way to look at it. tank early, tank all season!
6o4__boi
06-27-2017, 02:16 PM
The 2018 draft is supposed to be stacked with top end talent. If you guys think you were excited this draft, wait until they land the fifth pick next season.
Short term pain for long term pain.
fixed :troll:
but damn...if we land one of Dahlin or Svechnikov
:ahwow:
68style
06-27-2017, 02:36 PM
Canucks Top Prospects Game is going to be live-streamed on July 6 starting at 6pm... all of the draft picks from this draft are projected to play! 5 on 5 first, 4 on 4 second and 3 on 3 third periods.
Should be fun to watch!
Zhukenov signs 2 year deal with Omsk. off to the khl
Groot
06-27-2017, 03:50 PM
canucks have an asian guy trying out for publicity purposes? lol
Simon Chen - Eliteprospects.com (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=375999)
Verdasco
06-27-2017, 03:56 PM
beijing ice hockey? didn't know hockey even existed in China.... saw zero ads when i was in beijing haha~!
Canucks Top Prospects Game is going to be live-streamed on July 6 starting at 6pm... all of the draft picks from this draft are projected to play! 5 on 5 first, 4 on 4 second and 3 on 3 third periods.
Should be fun to watch!
If you know someone who has season tickets, they'll have the opportunity to get free tickets to this event.
gaudette will be in the summer showdown :fuckyea:
Mike Oxbig
06-27-2017, 04:33 PM
Only checking for Yakupov news here this summer
Nabatron
06-27-2017, 06:50 PM
knowing how much talent there will be in the 2018 draft canucks will find away not to tank and make the playoffs but then get swept in first round in usual canuck fashion lol
bobbinka
06-27-2017, 07:27 PM
knowing how much talent there will be in the 2018 draft canucks will find away not to tank and make the playoffs but then get swept in first round in usual canuck fashion lol
and then drop 3 spots, cause the teams after us all win the lottery and jump up
murd0c
06-27-2017, 08:25 PM
knowing how much talent there will be in the 2018 draft canucks will find away not to tank and make the playoffs but then get swept in first round in usual canuck fashion lol
this the talent good in next yeas draft? All I know about is the stud d-man
Nabatron
06-27-2017, 09:20 PM
thats what they are saying! saying it will be a deep draft....
winson604
06-27-2017, 10:44 PM
Brady Tkachuk will be in next year's draft, maybe we can finally draft a Tkachuk :awwyeah:
and then drop 3 spots, cause the teams after us all win the lottery and jump up
can't drop if you make the playoffs as you're not in the lottery anymore.
this the talent good in next yeas draft? All I know about is the stud d-man
2018 NHL Draft: Names to Know for Next Year's Prospects | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2716845-2018-nhl-draft-names-to-know-for-next-years-prospects)
2018 NHL Draft: Names to Know for Next Year's Prospects | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2716845-2018-nhl-draft-names-to-know-for-next-years-prospects)
Should be noted that a lot can change in a year.
For example, Nick Ebert was projected to be a top 5 pick in the 2012 draft in June 2011 and he ended up falling to the last overall pick (211th).
Then you have guys like Ryan Johansen and Pierre-Luc Dubois who weren't on anyone's radar the year prior to their respective drafts and end up going top 5.
This year, for example, Liljegren was a surefire top 3 pick in June 2016, but fell to the middle of the first round. Chychrun was similar last year.
McDavid going to get 13.25mil it seems.
Would you offer 9mil for draisaitl? Compensation is 2firsts a 2nd and a 3rd.
Having him as our 1c moves everyone down and lets us trade Sutter for more d. Probably makes us a team that is 10- 15 in draft order
murd0c
06-28-2017, 12:17 PM
nope he's not worth two firsts, yes it would help but those are at least two great players we would give up.
Devastator
06-28-2017, 12:34 PM
Oilers already said they would match any offers for Leon Draisaitl. Also what goes around comes around they can throw offer sheets to our future RFA's. It's a double edge sword.
Ganger in Van today for a tour.
Rodin in talks with Van and Vegas
murd0c
06-28-2017, 02:23 PM
Vancouver Canucks name Trent Cull head coach of Utica Comets | The Province (http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks-name-trent-cull-head-coach-of-utica-comets)
Trent Cull is the new head coach of the Utica Comets, the American Hockey League affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks.
Cull, 43, replaces Travis Green, who was promoted to the top job in Vancouver in April.
Cull spent the last four seasons as an assistant coach with Syracuse Crunch, the Tampa Bay Lightning’s farm club. It was his second four-year stint with the Crunch. In between, he spent three seasons as head coach of the Sudbury Wolves of the Ontario Hockey League, compiling a 94-88-11-11 record.
“Trent is a passionate head coach with significant AHL experience,” said Vancouver Canucks general manager Jim Benning. “He understands the development path of a young player, including the challenges they face, and has been a part of many successful organizations. Trent is a teacher with a positive, energetic work ethic. We’re excited to welcome him and his family to our organization.”
The Georgetown, Ont. native played 11 seasons as a defenceman in the AHL and IHL with five different teams: St. John’s, Houston, Springfield, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton and Syracuse.
If McDavid signs at 13.25, a predatory offer sheet at 9.8 million would force Oilers to pay 23 million for 2 players, or lose Draisaitl for picks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/6k18f3/if_mcdavid_signs_at_1325_a_predatory_offer_sheet/
Doubt the offersheet happens but I sure as hell hope it happens. It'd be almost 1/3 of their cap towards 2 players
yep, basically how to go from promising future cup contender to salary cap hell
6o4__boi
06-28-2017, 02:55 PM
with our luck in the lottery, i would seriously consider an offersheet for Draisaitl
it'll piss off traditionalists yadda yadda and there's a threat of Edmonton getting back but fuck it, sometimes you gotta bull through life and not look back
that and I'd love to see the Coilers in salary cap hell
Bouncing Bettys
06-28-2017, 03:12 PM
yep, basically how to go from promising future cup contender to salary cap hell
Here comes another lock out.
I really like Draisaitl, but he's not worth anywhere close to $10M/year ... And giving up two 1st round picks, a 2nd, and a 3rd is insanity for a team in our situation.
JesseBlue
06-28-2017, 06:26 PM
You do this after signing horvat first
pastarocket
06-28-2017, 07:40 PM
Benning is busy working the phones: :considered:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agents-rumours-weal-canucks-signing-shattenkirk-brendan-smith-alzner-emelin-daley-montreal-tampa-dallas-coyotes/
-from the article: A handful of impending UFAs have been linked to Vancouver, though one never knows if the interest is mutual.
In addition to Alzner, Benning has reportedly made calls on Toronto defenceman Matt Hunwick, team-less Nail Yakupov, and Philadelphia centre Jordan Weal.
Tim Budong
06-28-2017, 10:27 PM
dont think a team will throw that offer sheet
just like how Stamkos didnt get any
Gumby
06-28-2017, 11:11 PM
Most UFAs that "show interest in Vancouver" end up signing elsewhere. The ones we end up with are the ones nobody else wants. :troll:
Amuse
06-29-2017, 12:35 AM
beijing ice hockey? didn't know hockey even existed in China.... saw zero ads when i was in beijing haha~!
They have a KHL team in China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynwsaPlC0M0
sonick
06-29-2017, 04:38 AM
beijing ice hockey? didn't know hockey even existed in China.... saw zero ads when i was in beijing haha~!
They were at Burnaby 8 rinks a few weeks back scouting or holding try outs for young Chinese prospects haha.
Also Mike Keenan is their coach.
6o4__boi
06-29-2017, 08:20 AM
Doesn't that KHL team in China have like 3 Chinese players in total haha
edm buying out pouliot. will be 4years with a 1.33 cap hit
pastarocket
06-29-2017, 09:30 AM
Bonino, Bonino,Bonino, Nick Bo-neeeen-noooo! :troll:
Bonino is getting interest from 10 teams:
Darren Dreger
✔ @DarrenDreger
Many teams in the market for a center have connected with Nick Bonino. At least 10 teams are said to have serious interest at this stage.
Aaron Portzline of the Columbus Dispatch reports the Blue Jackets are among those 10 teams.
6o4__boi
06-29-2017, 09:31 AM
i find it puzzling that it's still so common to see GM's get caught up in the FA frenzy and sign mediocre players to stupid money and stupid term
it's a high-risk low-reward scenario most of the time and it ends up usually hampering the team
when was the last time someone signed on FA day actually made a huge impact for the duration of their contract?
Lucic was good in the first, but he's got 5 more years. Eriksson was a disaster and will be for years to come.
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 09:34 AM
Canucks talking to Anders Nilsson who played with sabres and was teammate with markstrom at World Juniors in 2010
also they are talking to a D Paul Postma I guess he is a good 7th or 8th D man. Wondering were all these 7th or 8th d man are going to play like Subban(if he gets a shot), Pedan, Holm, Biega ect...
pastarocket
06-29-2017, 09:35 AM
i find it puzzling that it's still so common to see GM's get caught up in the FA frenzy and sign mediocre players to stupid money and stupid term
it's a high-risk low-reward scenario most of the time and it ends up usually hampering the team
when was the last time someone signed on FA day actually made a huge impact for the duration of their contract?
Lucic was good in the first, but he's got 5 more years. Eriksson was a disaster and will be for years to come.
Maybe some GMs get caught in the hype of the free agent frenzy?
I agree with you on the high risk low-reward scenario. Don't some of these NHL GMs realize that it's not like they're going to a summer clearance sale to buy quality products at 50% off or more? :lawl:
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 09:38 AM
What JB should be doing is taking gambles on yak, wheal and other young guys and sign them to "show me what you can do" contracts if they pan out then great if not no loss try to trade them or put them on waivers...
hartnell to be bought out. would sign
AzNightmare
06-29-2017, 09:43 AM
Maybe some GMs get caught in the hype of the free agent frenzy?
I agree with you on the high risk low-reward scenario. Don't some of these NHL GMs realize that it's not like they're going to a summer clearance sale to buy quality products at 50% off or more? :lawl:
I think a part of it is job retention...
Sometimes the short term can save them the job, even if the team suffers long term. Ultimately, it's not their problem.
slicrick
06-29-2017, 09:46 AM
TBT, when the Flyers tried to sign Weber with that huge offer sheet which he accepted but Nashville matched. Nashville had already lost Suter in free agency 2 weeks earlier leaving them basically without a choice.
Weber agrees to 14-year offer with Flyers - NHL.com (https://www.nhl.com/news/weber-agrees-to-14-year-offer-with-flyers/c-638240)
6o4__boi
06-29-2017, 09:46 AM
Sedin Sedin Hartnell
weren't they pretty good at the all star game like 6 years ago? haha
maybe they could turn back the clock a little for each other
i'd imagine there'd be lots of interest with Hartnell though...and that he'd want to sign with a contender for a shot at the cup
wouldn't be surprised if Yak goes unsigned and ends up going for a PTO
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 09:55 AM
I would legit take a flyer on Yak I mean whats there to lose with the Canucks right now? Sign him for league minimum put him on the PP see what happens. I mean this is a team that was practically dead last and need help with scoring.
murd0c
06-29-2017, 10:09 AM
I agree about Yak, from the sounds of things he's a hard worker and a good team mate but just doesn't have it all in the head. Maybe he will finally realize this is his last chance and turn things around like Kass did in Edmonton.
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 10:15 AM
^exactly what canucks going to lose with signing him? Unless Linden thinks he will be a bad influence on the other young guys. You know linden was the one who ran kass and lack out of town. I could be forgetting others but seems like Linden is a no non sense kind of guy lol
https://twitter.com/DhaliwalSports/status/880489801941532672
I would prefer weal over yakupov. yakupov isn't even an nhl player now, everyones just obsessed because of his juniors and his draft position. weal at least showing he belonged in the nhl last year, and has produced at every level
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 10:42 AM
^take both yak and weal lol....
As for hanzel and stone meh.....
6o4__boi
06-29-2017, 10:54 AM
Hanzal's gonna get overpaid somehwere...hopefully not the Canucks
didn't he end Hank's iron man streak and injured like 2 other Canuck in the same game a couple years back haha
Hanzal's gonna get overpaid somehwere...hopefully not the Canucks
didn't he end Hank's iron man streak and injured like 2 other Canuck in the same game a couple years back haha
On top of the blatant high stick that was called a goal, yes.
Canucks talking to Anders Nilsson who played with sabres and was teammate with markstrom at World Juniors in 2010
also they are talking to a D Paul Postma I guess he is a good 7th or 8th D man. Wondering were all these 7th or 8th d man are going to play like Subban(if he gets a shot), Pedan, Holm, Biega ect...
Carolina is currently carrying 3 goaltenders making at least $2.75M (Darling, Ward, and Lack).
I'd try to get Lack and an asset back to help alleviate their payroll. He's good friends with Markstrom and he was well-liked by teammates and fans, too. UFA at the end of next season, so can either let him walk or re-sign him to a more appropriate contract.
6o4__boi
06-29-2017, 12:40 PM
according to Elliott, Nilsson to the Canucks is likely
i wouldn't mind Lack back
also Canucks being linked to Jason Demers
:fulloffuck:
this better be to acquire prospects by taking on a shit contract
Carolina is currently carrying 3 goaltenders making at least $2.75M (Darling, Ward, and Lack).
I'd try to get Lack and an asset back to help alleviate their payroll. He's good friends with Markstrom and he was well-liked by teammates and fans, too. UFA at the end of next season, so can either let him walk or re-sign him to a more appropriate contract.
I'd love to see Lack back. He played well here in Vancouver, because he worked real hard with the goaltending coach to play to his strengths. He sucks in Carolina, because their goaltending coach basically had him do the complete opposite of what he was doing in Vancouver, so his numbers and play has suffered greatly because of it.
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 04:13 PM
yeah I doubt lack will be coming back...They have a better shot at signing nilsson then lack.
yeah I doubt lack will be coming back...They have a better shot at signing nilsson then lack.
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880580105126514693
Nabatron
06-29-2017, 04:29 PM
wow and ryan murphy too
cdizzle_996
06-29-2017, 06:03 PM
Jordan Weal signs in Philly
Would've taken Ryan Murphy to take Lack even w/ no retention.
Kanzig is useless, I imagine he's going back to free up a roster slot.
6o4__boi
06-29-2017, 10:12 PM
Pretty sweet deal for the Flames.
Not gonna lie, their d corps is shaping up nicely.
Lol Jordan Weal...appreciated Philly more after spending some time with Jimbo
Canucks pushing hard for delzotto.
They also contacted Thornton but I'm guessing he told them to fuck off
murd0c
06-30-2017, 07:06 AM
This is a fucken rebuild... The only players the Canucks should be signing should be in their early to mid 20's and a 6th dman...
6o4__boi
06-30-2017, 07:47 AM
Jim Benning: Hey, Joe, this is Jim Benn..
Joe Thornton: *Hangs up*
Jim Benning: Hey Joe, this is John Bonning...I'm calling from...
Joe Thornton: Goddamn it Jim, for the last time, I don't want to play for your team.
slicrick
06-30-2017, 07:51 AM
I think Del Zotto is worth a shot as a reclamation project on a cheap-ish short term contract. Had 40+ points in 2011-2012 season and two 30+ point seasons, only 27 years old, can skate well, isn't the biggest guy but still 6'0" 190 lbs, just too much inconsistency and lack of defensive play. I thought he was going to be the real deal in NY.
If he came here and succeeded he could be flipped for a pick or something at the deadline, and with what he's poised to get as a contract retaining 50% of his contract even if it's more than a year wouldn't be too bad if the reward was right.
I hope the Canucks can land one of him and or Yakupov
Min trades Pominville, Scandella, and a 4th rnd pick to Buf for Ennis, Foligno and a 3rd rnd pick.
Canucks also looking at Da Costa
shit load of buyouts:
Cal bouma and ryan murphy
fla jokinen
boston hayes
nj cammalleri and smith-pelly
win stuart
6o4__boi
06-30-2017, 08:12 AM
i'd take a flyer on Murphy
cheap, show-me 2 way deal
we could use more right hand shot dman
Nabatron
06-30-2017, 08:35 AM
should be an interesting day tomorrow
pastarocket
06-30-2017, 11:38 AM
Blue Jackets and Preds submit offers sheets for Duchene:
Blue Jackets, Preds submit offers for Duchene - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/blue-jackets-preds-submit-offers-for-duchene-1.793445)
Sakic plays the waiting game until the price is right for Duchene.
Liquid_o2
06-30-2017, 11:43 AM
Not offer sheets since Duchene is not an RFA. They are trade offers.
Lol offersheet on a player who's already signed
6o4__boi
06-30-2017, 12:11 PM
Someone tell Pasta that Canada Day is, in fact, tomorrow.
pastarocket
06-30-2017, 12:56 PM
Someone tell Pasta that Canada Day is, in fact, tomorrow.
My bad. It's been a rough week in more ways than one. :fuckthatshit:
This information is legit though:
NHL Rumours: Canucks the front-runners for Michael Del Zotto? - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-rumours-free-agency-michael-del-zotto-canucks-ryan-johansen-buyouts-cammalleri-thornton-marleau-shattenkirk/)
-from the article:
Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
Chris Tanev's 8 team no-trade clause kicks in at midnight tonight.
11:39 AM - 30 Jun 2017
Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
Expect Devils to be among most serious and aggressive bidders for Shattenkirk.
If I remember correctly, Brooks is the reporter that Torts hates with a passion. Check out the Youtube videos
for the animated conversations between Torts and Brooks when Torts was the Rangers' coach.
6o4__boi
06-30-2017, 02:35 PM
looks like it'll be an all-Swedish tandem in the next couple of seasons
https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/880911873067167747
murd0c
06-30-2017, 02:54 PM
two years is a perfect term for a back up. I also heard Del Zotto is a lock to sign with the Canucks as well
Mike Oxbig
06-30-2017, 03:17 PM
Porn star calls out former Rangers defenseman Michael Del Zotto - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/porn-star-calls-rangers-defenseman-michael-del-zotto-twitter-article-1.1996789)
https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/880911873067167747
highfive
06-30-2017, 04:00 PM
Rodin is back with the Canucks. Benning is building team Sweden lol
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