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Ch28
06-30-2017, 04:24 PM
https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/880938061844107265

dbaz
06-30-2017, 04:30 PM
McKenzie says we getting ganger too

Mike Oxbig
06-30-2017, 04:40 PM
What about yakupov

Ch28
06-30-2017, 04:47 PM
What about yakupov

We're getting him, too.

Ch28
06-30-2017, 04:49 PM
McKenzie says we getting ganger too

According to Bob Mac, it sounds like we're getting Nilsson, Gagner, and Del Zotto.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880942738337927168

highfive
06-30-2017, 05:03 PM
Del zotto and gagner would be great trade deadline ufas!

Jmac
06-30-2017, 05:03 PM
Del zotto and gagner would be great trade deadline ufas!
Except it sounds like there may be term involved ...

Ch28
06-30-2017, 05:18 PM
Except it sounds like there may be term involved ...

Yeah, cause non-rental players have never been traded at the trade deadline.

highfive
06-30-2017, 05:31 PM
Term is fine. Trade them in a few years. We have the Sedins to trade at the deadline this coming season and sign them back in the offseason. Gagner can take up the 2nd centre spot behind bo afterwards.


I can only dream and we get all the prospects and picks

dbaz
06-30-2017, 08:29 PM
Ganger 3years. Del Zotto and the g. 2years

And the sedins won't get traded

highfive
06-30-2017, 08:41 PM
Prob not. Dim Jim wants to make the playoffs.

Other news, Sharp misses Duncan Keith's wife and probably going back to Chicago. lol

Mike Oxbig
06-30-2017, 10:04 PM
Goldobin Burmistrov Yakupov

murd0c
06-30-2017, 10:12 PM
Are we actually getting yak as well? Damm had no clue Benning was going to dovthis much. I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing right now lol

CRS
06-30-2017, 10:19 PM
Are we actually getting yak as well? Damm had no clue Benning was going to dovthis much. I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing right now lol

Can't be worse than icing the team we had last year.

Mike Oxbig
06-30-2017, 10:40 PM
I have a feeling Yakupov will go montreal to replace radulov and play with galchenyuk.

Why is Galchenyuk the key to the Canadiens’ interest in Yakupov? To answer that question, it’s important to remember where both players came from before being drafted first overall (Yakupov) and third overall (Galchenyuk) in 2012. Playing together in the OHL with the Sarnia Sting, the duo of Galchenyuk and Yakupov was a force to be reckoned with. During the 2010-11 season, Galcheyuk scored 31 goals and 83 points in 68 games – a point total good for third in the OHL among rookies that season, behind only Sven Baertschi and Yakupov, his linemate with the Sting. In 65 games in that very same season, while flanking Galchenyuk in Sarnia, Yakupov scored 49 goals and 101 points and proved to be a true game-changer. Reuniting the two at the NHL level could prove to be a smart move to try and rejuvenate both players moving forward.

murd0c
06-30-2017, 10:44 PM
that does make total sense after reading that

dbaz
07-01-2017, 04:50 AM
Not total sense cuz Sven baertschi didn't play in the ohl

Infiniti
07-01-2017, 06:09 AM
Panthers' Demers nixes trade to Canucks - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/panthers-demers-nixes-trade-to-canucks-1.794112)

6o4__boi
07-01-2017, 06:43 AM
These...aren't bad deals. Jimbo is learning guys.

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/881157714507943936

Devastator
07-01-2017, 06:43 AM
Thank god Demers nixes the trade, I wouldn't want his 9 goals and 19 assists last season with him making 4.5 mill. But it looks like we were planning to take on a bad contract with something else coming back or at least I hope it was.

murd0c
07-01-2017, 06:52 AM
Gagner for 3mill a season would be very nice and even better with Del zotto if he's making the same.

68style
07-01-2017, 06:59 AM
Guys... I'm worried... where is Megna going to play with all these forward signings?

dbaz
07-01-2017, 07:24 AM
What I'm liking is it forces some younger guys to start in the AHL, instead of having huge expectations. Also gives Utica a chance.
Is Sutter on his way out? C depth is Hank, bo, Gagner, Sutter, gaunce, burmistrov

68style
07-01-2017, 07:48 AM
^ Sutter has a NTC through his whole contract... modified one for the last 2 years... but I doubt he's going anywhere... I'd say Gaunce is done here, poor guy, I actually think he could be really good if given a chance.

murd0c
07-01-2017, 08:02 AM
Yup Gagner signed 3 years 3.15 a year which is pretty reasonable

mj_39
07-01-2017, 08:16 AM
Del Zotto 2 yr @ 3/yr

Tim Budong
07-01-2017, 08:59 AM
Ducks gave Cam Fowler this...

darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
2m
Confirming
$6.5 aav for Cam Fowler extension with the Ducks. 8 year term as expected.

too much mangg????

murd0c
07-01-2017, 09:04 AM
thats way too much for Fowler

highfive
07-01-2017, 09:07 AM
Gagner, sutter, gaunce and even granlund can all play centre and wing.

murd0c
07-01-2017, 09:08 AM
Canucks just signed Patrick Wiercioch to a one year 650k contact as well

pastarocket
07-01-2017, 09:16 AM
Shattenkirk is still not signed with any team so far. Any takers?

murd0c
07-01-2017, 09:26 AM
something is going on with the Preds right now

Renthal
07-01-2017, 09:27 AM
miller to anaheim at 2 years 2 million per.
thats less than bernier was makin last year at 2.75

pretty good tandem of miller and gibson

pastarocket
07-01-2017, 09:43 AM
Here is the payroll and cap room info. from TSN free agent frenzy:

Salary cap: 75 million

Canucks payroll for 2017-2018: 65.5 million

Cap room available: 9.5 million

22 players signed.

1 player unsigned.

How much money will Benning offer to Bo Ho? :considered:

highfive
07-01-2017, 09:59 AM
Good work so far from benning imo. Basically telling all the young guys that you have to fight and earn your spot on the team. Nothing is given.

cdizzle_996
07-01-2017, 10:16 AM
Also signed 2010 8th overal pick, Alex Burmistrov

6o4__boi
07-01-2017, 10:38 AM
I'm liking the Benning moves this year from the deadline so far

shawnly1000
07-01-2017, 10:53 AM
https://twitter.com/canucks/status/881223745762869248

spoon.ek9
07-01-2017, 11:15 AM
nice to see a lot of activity on our end for once

UFO
07-01-2017, 12:39 PM
I didn't realize Anders Lindback had fallen so far over the last couple of years. I remember when he was poised to take over for Pekka Rinne before being shipped off to Tampa, more or less a sure thing as an up and coming young starting goalie who couldn't get the chance behind Rinne. Now signed to 2 way league minimum contract today

Sucks to be an establishing goalie in the new NHL

Ch28
07-01-2017, 02:35 PM
Both Del Zotto and Gagner deals have no trade restrictions, so it gives us tons of flexibility come trade deadline

Hondaracer
07-01-2017, 02:55 PM
The gange signing is gross but just met some of the rookies including pedersen[/IMG]

https://imgur.com/gallery/RKtYH

6thGear.
07-01-2017, 05:21 PM
Well these new signings will get me to watch a few more games this upcoming season. Any news on Yak?

Mike Oxbig
07-01-2017, 05:30 PM
Canucks are out for Yakupov after signing gagner and burmistrov?

highfive
07-01-2017, 05:42 PM
Canucks are out for Yakupov after signing gagner and burmistrov?

Dude, you have a thing for yakupov or something? Edm gave up on him. St. Louis gave up on him. Nobody signed him on the first day of ufa. Guy is clearly not the 1st overall pick player anymore. There are skills and talent but if you don't have the mental strength to commit to being a pro, you don't get anywhere.

murd0c
07-01-2017, 06:28 PM
I'm not sure about the burmistrov signing, I'm just happy this gives our young guys a chance to develop rather then throwing them into the fire so quick.

Jmac
07-01-2017, 07:18 PM
Burmistrov is atrocious at faceoffs.

2-year statline:
130 games played
949 faceoffs
40.4% faceoff wins

Can see him playing 4th line, Gaunce takes the faceoffs and then switches to wing

TjAlmeida
07-01-2017, 07:30 PM
Burmistrov is atrocious at faceoffs.

2-year statline:
130 games played
949 faceoffs
40.4% faceoff wins

Can see him playing 4th line, Gaunce takes the faceoffs and then switches to wing

See what kind of influence Manny will have on him. At first I was hyped about the possibility of yakupov. But it seems he is either asking way to much money, or has real issues. See how the next few days unfold, probably will end up on a pto or back in Europe.

XplicitLuder
07-01-2017, 09:07 PM
Ducks gave Cam Fowler this...

darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
2m
Confirming
$6.5 aav for Cam Fowler extension with the Ducks. 8 year term as expected.

too much mangg????

Rather this than what the sharks gave Vlasic who's a 30 year old

jdmhaze
07-01-2017, 09:35 PM
I wish we had a top 1/2 dman to even consider giving an extension to.

mickz
07-01-2017, 10:27 PM
I have a feeling Yakupov will go montreal to replace radulov and play with galchenyuk.

Why is Galchenyuk the key to the Canadiens’ interest in Yakupov? To answer that question, it’s important to remember where both players came from before being drafted first overall (Yakupov) and third overall (Galchenyuk) in 2012. Playing together in the OHL with the Sarnia Sting, the duo of Galchenyuk and Yakupov was a force to be reckoned with. During the 2010-11 season, Galcheyuk scored 31 goals and 83 points in 68 games – a point total good for third in the OHL among rookies that season, behind only Sven Baertschi and Yakupov, his linemate with the Sting. In 65 games in that very same season, while flanking Galchenyuk in Sarnia, Yakupov scored 49 goals and 101 points and proved to be a true game-changer. Reuniting the two at the NHL level could prove to be a smart move to try and rejuvenate both players moving forward.

Some players just can't make the jump from major junior to the NHL. Success at the level will not likely translate to the next. The most dominant line in recent memory has been Patrick Kane, Sergei Kostitsyn and Sam Gagner with the London Knights. The three combined for almost 400 points in ONE season. If they played together in the NHL it would be Patrick Kane featuring two sand bags.

Ch28
07-01-2017, 10:53 PM
Rather this than what the sharks gave Vlasic who's a 30 year old

Pickles is one of the top shutdown defenseman in the entire NHL and a rock on the SJS blueline and Team Canada

68style
07-01-2017, 11:10 PM
Pickles is one of the top shutdown defenseman in the entire NHL and a rock on the SJS blueline and Team Canada

Pickles? So cute, is that your pet name for him?

Hmm, just googled it... didn't realize it was really a brand name for pickles. Learn something new every day.

N.V.M.
07-02-2017, 05:58 AM
Vlasics are good, but Steinfelds are better.

68style
07-02-2017, 07:34 AM
Nice to see the new signings like Gagner and Weircioch so excited to come here on social media... Gagner already did a little video of his son in a Gagner Canucks t-shirt and Weircioch posted a pic of himself as a kid with his Canucks jersey on.

Infiniti
07-02-2017, 07:44 AM
Nice to see the new signings like Gagner and Weircioch so excited to come here on social media... Gagner already did a little video of his son in a Gagner Canucks t-shirt and Weircioch posted a pic of himself as a kid with his Canucks jersey on.

Enough with the positivity! Can we get back to lamenting over our upcoming 28th place finish already..

spoon.ek9
07-02-2017, 07:54 AM
maybe we'll be 29th or 30th !

Tim Budong
07-02-2017, 07:59 AM
deals are all to give rookies and prospects some time to develop and ease them in

in the mean time, someone like Jagr to fill the seats please

serious...

cdizzle_996
07-02-2017, 08:39 AM
Jagr is just the power forward the Sedins need!

highfive
07-02-2017, 08:41 AM
I don't think jagr wants to play in Canada though.

Hell. Sign iggy too haha

68style
07-02-2017, 10:07 AM
Jagr is just the power forward the Sedins need!

Jagr and Sedins would be fun to watch cycling... but it's pretty clear from the last 5+ years of Jagr's life he wants to play in places with no tax.

Ch28
07-02-2017, 10:40 AM
Carey Price re-signed for 8 years 84 mill.

10.5m aav with 70m in signing bonuses

https://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/881573117197504512

Jmac
07-02-2017, 12:36 PM
I thought Lundqvist's contract was bad. Yikes

TjAlmeida
07-02-2017, 12:47 PM
What are you supposed to do though? Best goalie in the world, you might as well just tell him to write a number down on a piece of paper and say ok.

Jmac
07-02-2017, 12:51 PM
Nice to see the new signings like Gagner and Weircioch so excited to come here on social media... Gagner already did a little video of his son in a Gagner Canucks t-shirt and Weircioch posted a pic of himself as a kid with his Canucks jersey on.
Some interesting history pieces on Gagner's links to Vancouver (well, mostly his dad).

Sam's dad was part of a package coming to Vancouver in the Pavel Bure trade. He played on one of the worst Canucks teams ever that netted us the Sedins.

Sam's dad, after being an assistant coach for the London Knights while Sam played there, joined the Canucks as the director of player personnel.

Sam's dad coached an inline hockey team featuring Sam and Chris Tanev during the summers in Ontario. He parlayed that relationship into convincing Tanev to sign with Vancouver.

Sam and Tanev routinely played against each other in the GTHL.

Sam's dad is runoured to have been the driving force behind drafting Horvat in the 2013 draft.

Jmac
07-02-2017, 01:03 PM
What are you supposed to do though? Best goalie in the world, you might as well just tell him to write a number down on a piece of paper and say ok.
We're in an era of increasing player salaries and nearly stagnant salary cap, though. Cap's gone up 16.6% over the last 6 years, but the highest paid goaltender that season (Lundqvist) had a $6.875M cap hit (and that wasn't a cheater contract, either; though you could argue Luongo's cap hit should've been more like $7.1M because his was a cheater contract).

In any case, that's over a 50% increase in the top goaltender cap hit with only a 16.6% increase in the salary cap.

If Price wants to win, he probably should've knocked $1M off that at least.

TjAlmeida
07-02-2017, 01:30 PM
That argument could be made for all the players commanding big dollars though. All the other best players are commanding $10m+. Why shouldn't the best goalie in the world get that as well. Unfortunately Montreal doesn't have the luxury of having an up and coming goalie who could potentially take over the starting position. Allowing them to pursue the option of trading and saving cap space. Like I said, what was Montreal really supposed to do?

highfive
07-02-2017, 01:35 PM
Some interesting history pieces on Gagner's links to Vancouver (well, mostly his dad).

Sam's dad was part of a package coming to Vancouver in the Pavel Bure trade. He played on one of the worst Canucks teams ever that netted us the Sedins.

Sam's dad, after being an assistant coach for the London Knights while Sam played there, joined the Canucks as the director of player personnel.

Sam's dad coached an inline hockey team featuring Sam and Chris Tanev during the summers in Ontario. He parlayed that relationship into convincing Tanev to sign with Vancouver.

Sam and Tanev routinely played against each other in the GTHL.

Sam's dad is runoured to have been the driving force behind drafting Horvat in the 2013 draft.

It was a big loss when dave gagner left the organization. He's like the Canadian Thomas gradin.

Ch28
07-02-2017, 01:38 PM
Leafs sign Marleau to 3 year 6.25m per season with full NMC

Jmac
07-02-2017, 01:44 PM
Leafs sign Marleau to 3 year 6.25m per season with full NMC
Did they learn nothing from Robidas?

Who signs a 38-year-old to a 3-year, $18.75M contract with a full NMC? Holy shit is that an atrocity.

bobbinka
07-02-2017, 01:45 PM
daaammmn, 19 years with the Sharks

highfive
07-02-2017, 01:47 PM
The Canucks version of the mats sundin signing but we lucked out because it was 1 year.

Jmac
07-02-2017, 01:52 PM
The Canucks version of the mats sundin signing but we lucked out because it was 1 year.
Sundin was also a substantially better player, a year younger, and coming off a 78-point season on a wretched Leafs team (the last of a stretch of 12 straight 70+ point seasons).

Marleau hasn't cracked 50 points in 2 years on a loaded Sharks team.

I could MAYBE see this for Thornton, but Marleau? I mean, he's durable, I'll give him that, but he's at best a complimentary top six player now, let alone in 2-3 years.

Ch28
07-02-2017, 01:55 PM
The Canucks version of the mats sundin signing but we lucked out because it was 1 year.

Canucks had nothing to lose but money on that contract. Sundin also had a very productive year prior to signing with us.

This Marleau contract will be an albatross in 1 or 2 years. He's turning 38 in September and his overall play and point totals have been steadily decreasing over the past 3 seasons.

At least the Price contract, while extremely rich, was justified given that he's the Canadiens best player.

dbaz
07-02-2017, 02:13 PM
Leafs going back to there old ways there lol

Renthal
07-02-2017, 02:21 PM
mathews marner and nylander need new contracts in 2 years too
and if they want to buyout marleau his full cap counts as he is 35+
yeesh

Bouncing Bettys
07-02-2017, 03:21 PM
Thornton has't officially signed with SJ

Obsideon
07-02-2017, 03:38 PM
Leafs have Marleau but we have Loui Eriksson for 5 more years :gun:

whitev70r
07-02-2017, 04:06 PM
Marleau contract is the stupidest signing in a LONG while ... Lamoriello going senile.

68style
07-02-2017, 04:10 PM
Canadiens are fucked, almost $20 million cap hit from just Weber and Price for the next NINE years!! Lol

Jmac
07-02-2017, 04:30 PM
Marleau contract is the stupidest signing in a LONG while ... Lamoriello going senile. Lou has made this mistake before. Ryane Clowe was the last one.

Shanahan also signed off on Robidas.

Bouncing Bettys
07-02-2017, 05:13 PM
Robidas was exiled to Robidas Island with Lupul on LTIR. When a team has deep pockets, and can find ways around the cap, the risk can be manageable. I'm sure they have some plan in place to get out of Marleau's 3rd year, like trading him to Vegas so they reach the cap.floor.

Devastator
07-02-2017, 05:21 PM
God damn, Thornton 1 year deal with no movement clause for 8 million. He's getting paid!

Jmac
07-02-2017, 11:25 PM
Robidas was exiled to Robidas Island with Lupul on LTIR. When a team has deep pockets, and can find ways around the cap, the risk can be manageable. I'm sure they have some plan in place to get out of Marleau's 3rd year, like trading him to Vegas so they reach the cap.floor.
When you're drafting up exit strategies on the day of the signing, that's pretty indicative of how bad of a contract it is.

604778
07-03-2017, 08:50 AM
Dallas Stars have signed Alexander Radulov to a five-year deal.

highfive
07-03-2017, 08:58 AM
Rivalry between aquilini and gaglardi continues. You pull an eriksson last year? We're going to one up you with radulov this season!

murd0c
07-03-2017, 09:10 AM
Rivalry between aquilini and gaglardi continues. You pull an eriksson last year? We're going to one up you with radulov this season!

That has nothing to do with a rivalry, the stars need scoring

highfive
07-03-2017, 09:42 AM
I know. Just wanted to joke about how both deals are similar. Radulovs deal can backfire like erikssons.

Anyone know if Sami salo is back in the organization?

sonick
07-03-2017, 10:19 AM
I know. Just wanted to joke about how both deals are similar. Radulovs deal can backfire like erikssons.

Anyone know if Sami salo is back in the organization?

Not officially but he is guest coaching today at prospects development camp.

dbaz
07-03-2017, 04:54 PM
So anyone got projections for the canucks lineup?
Seems like there's 18 players fighting for about 6 spots(either 5 f/1d or 4f/2d). players that need waivers are in bold.
f: boeser, goldobin, burmistrov, boucher, gaunce, Virtanen, rodin, Molino, chaput, labate, megna
d:wiercioch, subban, holm, biega, juolevi, pedan, mceneny

sedin-sedin-granlund
baer-bo-boeser
Eriksson-ganger-sutter
gaunce-burmistrov-rodin
dorsett
boucher


edler-stetcher
hutton-tanev
del z-gudbranson
holm

would send mceneny, biega down in first cuts so they make it to the comets

Jmac
07-03-2017, 05:28 PM
I'd probably go with:

D. Sedin - H. Sedin - L. Eriksson
S. Baertschi - B. Horvat - S. Gagner
M. Granlund - B. Sutter - A. Rodin
B. Gaunce - A. Burmistrov - D. Dorsett

A. Edler - T. Stetcher
B. Hutton - C. Tanev
M. Del Zotto - E. Gudbranson

J. Markstrom
A. Nilsson

Extras: J. Megna, P. Wiercioch, A. Biega

Waivers: M. Chaput, R. Boucher, A. Pedan, E. McEneny, R. Bachman

Boeser starts in the AHL, called up for injuries, sticks if he plays well.
Juolevi spends another year in the OHL.

Waivers-eligible (28)
Forwards (15):
Sedin, Daniel
Sedin, Henrik
Eriksson, Loui
Sutter, Brandon
Gagner, Sam
Dorsett, Derek
Baertschi, Sven
Granlund, Markus
Burmistrov, Alexander
Rodin, Anton
Megna, Jayson
Gaunce, Brendan
Horvat, Bo
Boucher, Reid
Chaput, Michael

Defensemen (10):
Edler, Alexander
Tanev, Chris
Gudbranson, Erik
Del Zotto, Michael
Hutton, Ben
Stetcher, Troy
Biega, Alex
Wiercioch, Patrick
Pedan, Andrey
McEneny, Evan

Goaltenders (3):
Markstrom, Jacob
Nilsson, Anders
Bachman, Richard

Waivers-exempt (18)
Forwards (10):
Boeser, Brock
Molino, Griffen
Dahlen, Jonathan
Virtanen, Jake
Goldobin, Nikolay
MacEwen, Zack
Laplante, Yan-Pavel
Carcone, Michael
Cassels, Cole
Labate, Joseph

Defensemen (7):
Holm, Philip
Chatfield, Jalen
Subban, Jordan
Brisebois, Guillaume
Sautner, Ashton
Stewart, Mackenze
Cederholm, Anton

Goaltenders (1):
Demko, Thatcher

Ineligible for AHL/ECHL (1)
Defensemen (1):
Juolevi, Olli

Unsigned prospects (16)
Forwards (11):
Zhukenov, Dmitri
Gaudette, Adam
Jasek, Lukas
Lockwood, William
Stukel, Jakob
Abols, Rodrigo
McKenzie, Brett
Pettersson, Elias
Lind, Kole
Gadjovich, Jonah
Palmu, Petrus

Defensemen (4):
Candella, Cole
Rathbone, Jack
Gunnarsson, Kristoffer
Brassard, Matt

Goaltenders (1):
DiPietro, Michael

highfive
07-03-2017, 05:51 PM
Why does mceneny need to go through waivers?

dbaz
07-03-2017, 06:02 PM
this would be the 6th season since he signed his elc, making him eligible for waiver

Jmac
07-03-2017, 06:11 PM
Grenier and Valk signed with Florida today. Not a big loss for Vancouver, but both were good for Utica.

Fortunately, it looks like Utica may actually get some decent prospects this season.

punkwax
07-03-2017, 06:11 PM
With Boeser getting 4 goals in 9 NHL games I hope he gets a serious look. Wouldn't be disappointed if he plays in the A at the end of the day but it would be great to see an actual rookie make an impact right away like we've seen on other teams.

Jmac
07-03-2017, 06:31 PM
With Boeser getting 4 goals in 9 NHL games I hope he gets a serious look. Wouldn't be disappointed if he plays in the A at the end of the day but it would be great to see an actual rookie make an impact right away like we've seen on other teams.
My reasoning is that we get decimated by injuries every year plus I'd like to see Rodin get a legit shot if he's healthy in October. Odds are he's the guy who gets bumped from the top 9 if Boeser is in the NHL.

punkwax
07-03-2017, 06:37 PM
Fair enough but if Boeser is ready I'd prefer Rodin bump someone else. Gagner was effective as a bottom 6 last year and I wouldn't be sad if Dorsett went away quietly, myself.

jdmhaze
07-03-2017, 08:16 PM
You gotta make room for Boeser to start the season, he earned in at the end of last season. Give Rodin a look on the 4th line and move Gaunce to Utica. Gaunce was a plug all last season, let him bury a few in the AHL.

68style
07-03-2017, 08:43 PM
Rodin is useless as a 4th line grinder.

IIRC Gaunce had amazing possession stats last season. He just needs some talent around him.

jdmhaze
07-03-2017, 10:16 PM
Wasn't really impressed with his game last season, hes great at checking but that's about it. Possession stats are great and all but if you're plunked on the 4th line for the entire season you're not going to get much talent around. If he does start it will be interesting to see if and how Green can help elevate his game because he needs it badly.

Ch28
07-03-2017, 10:44 PM
Rodin is useless as a 4th line grinder.

IIRC Gaunce had amazing possession stats last season. He just needs some talent around him.

Gaunce needs to work on his shot and trying to aim somewhere else besides the goalie's logo.

6o4__boi
07-04-2017, 08:55 AM
Yak signs with the Avs

Nabatron
07-04-2017, 10:36 AM
I think with canucks signing all those free agents the are worried with rushing the young guys and just giving them spots. Instead of them actually earning the spots like they should. I don't think they want to be an embarrassment like they were last year and don't want to go through a season like when they gave spots to Virtanen and McCann. Also I don't think management is really sure how doresetts health is with his neck surgery as well.

68style
07-04-2017, 11:00 AM
Dorsett needs to goooooo... I like his tenacity and admire his heart, but he has hands of stone and his staged "fights" and physical play are embarrassing.

highfive
07-04-2017, 11:09 AM
I think with canucks signing all those free agents the are worried with rushing the young guys and just giving them spots. Instead of them actually earning the spots like they should. I don't think they want to be an embarrassment like they were last year and don't want to go through a season like when they gave spots to Virtanen and McCann. Also I don't think management is really sure how doresetts health is with his neck surgery as well.

I agree. Look at how Edmonton fucked up young 1st rounders over the years by giving them spots. Hell gagner is one good example of not really putting work in developing young players.

6o4__boi
07-04-2017, 11:16 AM
Dorsett needs to goooooo... I like his tenacity and admire his heart, but he has hands of stone and his staged "fights" and physical play are embarrassing.

at least he didn't just hug people like Prust did haha

Nabatron
07-04-2017, 01:39 PM
I don't mind dorsett but he is coming back from a major neck injury and he isn't that type of guy who lets up. He goes and gives 100% every shift, imagine him just coasting out here and not hitting anyone because he doesn't want to reinjure himself. He will be practically useless if he isn't hitting let alone fighting.

6o4__boi
07-04-2017, 01:53 PM
wouldn't be surprised if he starts off in Utica in a conditioning stint, along with Rodin

Gaunce will probably start his year in Utica unless he has a ridiculously good camp, I would think Goldy, Boeser will get every chance to crack the line up.

Sedins Granlund
Bae Bo Boeser
Gagner Burmistrov Goldy
Boucher Sutter Eriksson

Tanev - Edler
Del Zotto - Stecher
Hutton - Gudbranson
Wiercoch - Holm
Juolevi (if he makes it)

I don't see Subban/Pedan passing both Wiercoch or Holm on the depth unless they have amazing camps.

Utica's d-corp will probably be Subban/Pedan/Brisebois as their top 3 since Juolevi still isn't eligible if he doesn't make the team.

dbaz
07-04-2017, 02:09 PM
kovy staying in khl for 1 more year. will be a ufa afterwards

murd0c
07-04-2017, 02:23 PM
I heard on 1040 this morning that Juolevi came into the young stars training camp at 200lbs.. If that's actually the case I could see him making the team this year.

Ch28
07-04-2017, 03:10 PM
kovy staying in khl for 1 more year. will be a ufa afterwards

#Kovalcucked

68style
07-04-2017, 03:11 PM
^ I hope Juolevi is the good type of 200lbs lol

Ain't no way Sutter is our 4th line centre or would even accept that role though, keep dreaming

radioman
07-04-2017, 03:26 PM
hes 6'3 drafted at like 185lbs right? 200lbs sounds about right for a growing boy.

Jmac
07-04-2017, 03:47 PM
hes 6'3 drafted at like 185lbs right? 200lbs sounds about right for a growing boy.
6'2" 182 lbs

murd0c
07-04-2017, 05:24 PM
he's 6'3" now which is great to hear, I honestly didn't realize he was so tall until today.

invader
07-04-2017, 08:43 PM
I always thought he was one of those small puck movie D man

Damn boys big. Virtanen big.

6o4__boi
07-04-2017, 08:44 PM
Man it'd be wicked if Juolevi turns out to be an Ohlund pre eye injury.

Mike Oxbig
07-04-2017, 08:45 PM
Sedin sedin boeser
bae bo eriksson
goldy sutter gagner
boucher granlund dorsett

tanev edler
lisa ann guddy
hutton stecher

markstrom nielsson



legit?


goldy might be in AHL, since hes a ppg player there

murd0c
07-04-2017, 09:42 PM
You left out Rodin and that new Russian centre

Mike Oxbig
07-04-2017, 10:12 PM
I think rodin is injury prone and burmistrov probably will take 4th line

dbaz
07-04-2017, 10:13 PM
all ive been thinking about with salo back coaching today.. did he pick up an injury?

Nabatron
07-04-2017, 10:32 PM
if juolevi ends up like ohlund lite then that would be awesome but i don't see juolevi making the open ice hits and being that physical. Lets just hope he doesn't turn out like Ossi Vaananan...

highfive
07-04-2017, 10:33 PM
Wasn't OJ compared to be a Lidstrom lite?

dbaz
07-04-2017, 11:00 PM
oj plays similar to salo, minus the shot

Tim Budong
07-05-2017, 01:12 AM
Salo is actually at the dev camp helping out with development

hahahah

Nabatron
07-05-2017, 07:16 AM
^why is that funny?

winson604
07-05-2017, 08:24 AM
Wasn't OJ compared to be a Lidstrom lite?

Like Edler has been compared to him for years :rukidding:

highfive
07-05-2017, 09:06 AM
Like Edler has been compared to him for years :rukidding:

The only thing edler is close to Lidstrom lite is that they're both Swedish.

pastarocket
07-05-2017, 09:34 AM
Benning Mic'ed up at the draft. An idiot called Dim Jim up during the draft thinking he was calling Garth Snow :lawl:

https://youtu.be/63ApK-RKqdc

dbaz
07-05-2017, 11:12 AM
8years 100mil for McDavid. 12.5per year

Hondaracer
07-05-2017, 11:30 AM
Btw Pettersson had one of the weakest hand shakes I've ever felt in my life lol... not reading too far into hand shakes but in my experience I've never liked people who had bad hand shakes lol

Armind
07-05-2017, 11:31 AM
:gay:

radioman
07-05-2017, 12:55 PM
Love the mic'd up at the draft stuff. Wish there was more content like that out there.

Ch28
07-05-2017, 01:27 PM
Love the mic'd up at the draft stuff. Wish there was more content like that out there.

I was on the r/hockey subreddit and was really surprised at how this kind of stuff that the Canucks put out seem to be a rarity. A lot of people that are fans of other teams were saying how they'd love if their team did something like this.

highfive
07-05-2017, 01:32 PM
I agree and it's nice to know that Petersson, Lind, and dipetiro were high on their list.

I thought they would be aggressive in trying to take kostin.

dbaz
07-05-2017, 01:35 PM
Btw Pettersson had one of the weakest hand shakes I've ever felt in my life lol... not reading too far into hand shakes but in my experience I've never liked people who had bad hand shakes lol

He's 18 and Swedish. Give him some years to become a man and to stop trying to be a metrosexual.
dahlen told reporters he will be playing in the shl next year with pettersson

radioman
07-05-2017, 01:53 PM
I was on the r/hockey subreddit and was really surprised at how this kind of stuff that the Canucks put out seem to be a rarity. A lot of people that are fans of other teams were saying how they'd love if their team did something like this.

Go to r/Hockey for the first time and the very first post I click on is Thornton and Burns butt naked with hockey sticks. Great stuff.

originalhypa
07-05-2017, 02:05 PM
Btw Pettersson had one of the weakest hand shakes I've ever felt in my life lol..

Soft ass swedes.....

http://wpmedia.theprovince.com/2015/05/sedinspeedbag.gif?w=460&h=319



FML, I'm going to burn my 6 generations of Canucks jerseys. While I'm happy with them bringing in Del Zotto, there isn't much else exciting coming from the Canucks camp. No matter how much Benning praises his picks, they don't mean a thing until they start to produce numbers.

That said, Jagr is still sitting by his phone in Fla right now, and I guarantee that he would take a pay cut for a 2 year deal.

winson604
07-05-2017, 02:09 PM
Soft ass swedes.....

http://wpmedia.theprovince.com/2015/05/sedinspeedbag.gif?w=460&h=319



FML, I'm going to burn my 6 generations of Canucks jerseys. While I'm happy with them bringing in Del Zotto, there isn't much else exciting coming from the Canucks camp. No matter how much Benning praises his picks, they don't mean a thing until they start to produce numbers.

That said, Jagr is still sitting by his phone in Fla right now, and I guarantee that he would take a pay cut for a 2 year deal.

Well he was drafted in Vancouver, let's bring him home boys! lol

Nabatron
07-05-2017, 02:17 PM
I agree and it's nice to know that Petersson, Lind, and dipetiro were high on their list.

I thought they would be aggressive in trying to take kostin.

I don't think the canucks will draft a Russian again lol

Jmac
07-05-2017, 03:32 PM
I love how when Benning came in, he talked about how our scouts just needed guidance and that not drafting Russians was a big mistake ...

Now he's basically conceded that Gillis was right.

Ch28
07-05-2017, 03:44 PM
I love how when Benning came in, he talked about how our scouts just needed guidance and that not drafting Russians was a big mistake ...

Now he's basically conceded that Gillis was right.

Bob McKenzie: "The Russian factor is real"

Kilinim
07-05-2017, 04:08 PM
Wasn't Del Zotto linked to Lisa Ann somehow?

murd0c
07-05-2017, 05:02 PM
Wasn't Del Zotto linked to Lisa Ann somehow?
Porn star calls out former Rangers defenseman Michael Del Zotto - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/porn-star-calls-rangers-defenseman-michael-del-zotto-twitter-article-1.1996789)

dbaz
07-05-2017, 05:27 PM
dahlen clarified his earlier comments

https://twitter.com/BlakePriceTSN/status/882690310203207680

6o4__boi
07-06-2017, 08:05 AM
assuming the coach there puts them in a line together, I would want him to go to Vaxjo and play with Pettersson some more

if not, then Utica

Nabatron
07-06-2017, 08:59 AM
Just was reading on the score.ca they were saying that leafs need to get a dman and to do that need to trade a forward. Their suggestions were josh leivo and JVR so the question is would you trade:

Tanev

for

JVR straight up

6o4__boi
07-06-2017, 09:10 AM
nah...JVR is too old

Tanev for Kapanen and Liljegren

Nabatron
07-06-2017, 09:14 AM
^that would be awesome lol but doubt the leafs would do it...

6o4__boi
07-06-2017, 09:27 AM
hell i'd throw in a 2nd or 3rd or some middle of the line prospect to make it happen or consider taking on Lupul's shit contract

murd0c
07-06-2017, 09:31 AM
I'm still jealous of Toronto getting Liljegren for such a steal

syee
07-06-2017, 11:35 AM
If anyone wants to go out to check out the Canucks prospects game tonight, shoot me a PM. I've got a pair of tickets. Decided not to go since I'm on call for work. You get to watch the game and I believe there's some free food if anyone is interested.

murd0c
07-06-2017, 04:45 PM
so is there a streaming link for the game?

Ch28
07-06-2017, 04:51 PM
so is there a streaming link for the game?

Canucks Facebook should be streaming it

https://www.facebook.com/Canucks/

murd0c
07-06-2017, 04:53 PM
hopefully they actually do

murd0c
07-06-2017, 04:58 PM
yup its up on the FB page

Ch28
07-06-2017, 05:05 PM
They're showing a Johnny Canuck promo before the game starts, so why do they still use that stupid orca whale?!

murd0c
07-06-2017, 05:14 PM
I have a feeling they are waiting for the 50th anniversary to change the jersey maybe? Sedins will be gone and it will be a new look of players

Infiniti
07-06-2017, 07:31 PM
Pettersson with some highlight reel goals tonight

murd0c
07-06-2017, 07:33 PM
big time

https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/883154055467458560

https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/883154956873637888

https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/883139330771787776

dapperfied
07-06-2017, 07:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXMKX2Y9r74

highfive
07-06-2017, 10:13 PM
The rolston shot! Fuck finally the Canucks draft players with high end skills.

6o4__boi
07-07-2017, 08:32 AM
Vancouver Canucks lean on analytics to draft pint-sized Petrus Palmu | The Province (http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/long-story-short-canucks-lean-on-analytics-to-draft-pint-sized-palmu)

good read...guy does look pretty jacked

How strong is he?

“I’m strong, I can tell you that,” he said. “That’s why I’m here. I can play a hard game, battle hard.

“When I was young, my dad told me I was going to be a short player and said I had to be faster and stronger than the other guys. I can squat a lot. I do one-legged squats. I can do 100 kg squats on one leg.”

fuckin beastly

Infiniti
07-07-2017, 12:20 PM
Vancouver Canucks lean on analytics to draft pint-sized Petrus Palmu | The Province (http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/long-story-short-canucks-lean-on-analytics-to-draft-pint-sized-palmu)

good read...guy does look pretty jacked



fuckin beastly

https://youtu.be/WHI8xDHGgUQ

For everyone's viewing pleasure..

pastarocket
07-07-2017, 01:31 PM
This kid Palmu has skill! He can score goals and uses his good vision of the ice to make plays. :notbad:

MG1
07-07-2017, 02:57 PM
That Petterson goal looks very nice...............actually, all of them.

................then I saw the other team.

AzNightmare
07-07-2017, 03:02 PM
Vancouver Canucks lean on analytics to draft pint-sized Petrus Palmu | The Province (http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/long-story-short-canucks-lean-on-analytics-to-draft-pint-sized-palmu)

good read...guy does look pretty jacked


How strong is he?

“I’m strong, I can tell you that,” he said. “That’s why I’m here. I can play a hard game, battle hard.

“When I was young, my dad told me I was going to be a short player and said I had to be faster and stronger than the other guys. I can squat a lot. I do one-legged squats. I can do 100 kg squats on one leg.”

fuckin beastly

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iEQ_Pamx--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1902gzy5wjbrqjpg.jpg

Like Martin St.Louis, doesn't skip leg day. lol

bobbinka
07-07-2017, 08:10 PM
Vancouver Canucks lean on analytics to draft pint-sized Petrus Palmu | The Province (http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/long-story-short-canucks-lean-on-analytics-to-draft-pint-sized-palmu)

good read...guy does look pretty jacked

fuckin beastly


For years, perception has been the Canucks use data like Alain Vigneault used Keith Ballard — as little as humanly possible.

This past draft, however, the Canucks set aside their affinity for big players who are difficult to play against, and focused on skilled players with big data instead.

:lawl:

Jmac
07-07-2017, 11:00 PM
Too bad they didn't apply the same logic in the 2014 draft when they took Mackenze Stewart instead of Joe Hicketts.

dbaz
07-08-2017, 09:07 AM
Roland Melanson joins NJ. There's goes our goaltendjng

Nabatron
07-08-2017, 09:46 AM
where is joe hicketts?

68style
07-08-2017, 10:08 AM
^ Grand Rapids

Jmac
07-08-2017, 11:05 AM
^ Grand Rapids
And led all Grand Rapids dmen in scoring in the regular season and the playoffs en route to a Calder Cup as an AHL rookie.

Stewart played a full season in Alaska last year, but with Alaska gone and 31 organizations splitting 27 ECHL teams, it may be tough for him to find a regular spot next season.

Devastator
07-08-2017, 01:08 PM
Rolly Melanson hasn't really been around anyways for the past 2 years. He spent most of his time in the east with famuly. So really it makes no difference. Linden gave permission to NJ to hire him. Rolly has done lots for this organization and it's only fair to him to go be with his family and be able to work closer.

Jmac
07-08-2017, 01:54 PM
He was working part-time in Utica last season, but he's wasted at the AHL level and wants to be in the East.

At least we have Cloutier

originalhypa
07-08-2017, 06:28 PM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iEQ_Pamx--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1902gzy5wjbrqjpg.jpg

Like Martin St.Louis, doesn't skip leg day. lol

No gay, but those are fucking beautiful quads.
Looking forward to seeing this guy skate.

:fuckyea:

punkwax
07-08-2017, 06:42 PM
Those are MSL's ridiculous quads.

Jmac
07-08-2017, 07:32 PM
Those are MSL's ridiculous quads.
According to TSN, that photo is from 2013, making those 38-year-old MSL quads.

Gumby
07-08-2017, 09:14 PM
Pic of crosby's legs now? :troll:

murd0c
07-08-2017, 09:18 PM
those are some good looking quads for a 38 year old.. And of course they are for MSL look at the logo on the shorts

jdmhaze
07-08-2017, 10:07 PM
All this talk about quads and nothing about the calves? Anybody who knows the struggle of building them can appreciate a set of that caliber.

originalhypa
07-09-2017, 07:13 AM
All this talk about quads and nothing about the calves? Anybody who knows the struggle of building them can appreciate a set of that caliber.

Exactly.
I'd like to see what this pulvo kids legs look like.

dbaz
07-10-2017, 03:24 PM
tyler Johnson re-signs in tbay. 7years 35mil

dbaz
07-11-2017, 03:05 PM
Found this interesting..

https://twitter.com/GarretHohl/status/884872444451840000

Ch28
07-11-2017, 03:18 PM
JV gonna bust so hard

That's what happens when you pick a guy that has shoulder surgery during his draft year, when one of his biggest assets was his slapshot, and uses his size to dominate smaller players.

Expresso
07-11-2017, 04:08 PM
JV gonna bust so hard

That's what happens when you pick a guy that has shoulder surgery during his draft year, when one of his biggest assets was his slapshot, and uses his size to dominate smaller players.

Don't worry they got it right now...speed and skill! :lol

Jmac
07-11-2017, 04:16 PM
I haven't written him off completely yet. Keep in mind he would've been CHL eligible last season if the Canucks hadn't kept him in the NHL all season in 15-16.

That said, I did call it a risky pick at the time and I'm still of that opinion. I'd just prefer to be wrong.

dbaz
07-11-2017, 04:44 PM
i dont think it was the right pick due to his situation and who was available. i think the shoulder will never be the same but, that corsi suggests we should give him a year or 2 more of development before completely throwing him out the window

Mike Oxbig
07-11-2017, 06:13 PM
JV+ for sam reinhart?

sabres are sold on resigning him yet

highfive
07-11-2017, 06:18 PM
Hey remember coho had lots of potential and bo was a 3rd liner checking centre.

Drafting position is one thing

How hard you work afterwards is another.

Mike Oxbig
07-11-2017, 06:24 PM
At this point us canucks fans just hope hes as good as scott hartnell was...

Scott Hartnell hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=31033)

or raffi torres

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=42312

Bouncing Bettys
07-12-2017, 12:27 PM
Leafs sign the steal of the draft.
@LeafsPR 1m1 minute ago
More
The #Leafs announced today the signing of 18-year-old defenceman Timothy Liljegren to a 3-year entry-level contract. #TMLtalk
Management must like what they see to sign him so soon.

TjAlmeida
07-12-2017, 12:39 PM
I thought I read somewhere he has already committed to Europe next year or something along those lines.

Ch28
07-12-2017, 12:46 PM
Leafs sign the steal of the draft.

http://i.imgur.com/bls4QTZ.gif

Jmac
07-12-2017, 03:06 PM
I thought I read somewhere he has already committed to Europe next year or something along those lines.
SHL/Allsvenskan have a transfer agreement.

NHL teams generally don't make use of it because it's expensive when they come to North America (Leafs give zero fucks about $$$)

Also, a little too early to start calling anyone a steal. Sometimes players drop for a good reason (sometimes not).

Bouncing Bettys
07-12-2017, 03:26 PM
SHL/Allsvenskan have a transfer agreement.

NHL teams generally don't make use of it because it's expensive when they come to North America (Leafs give zero fucks about $$$)

Also, a little too early to start calling anyone a steal. Sometimes players drop for a good reason (sometimes not).
It was mostly sarcasm.
Fixed it for you:
Leafs sign the official steal of the draft.

I wouldn't want him rushed into the NHL, maybe he goes the W. Nylander route and plays in Sweden before coming to the AHL.

Ch28
07-12-2017, 05:19 PM
I'm in the boat that thinks Europe eligible prospects should start out there. It gets them adjusted to the physical play against men that are bigger and stronger than them, so they're not the ones doing the bullying (Virtanen). Get's them more used to the NHL grind with an increased skill level of play that you don't necessarily get if you go back to playing in the juniors.

Bouncing Bettys
07-12-2017, 06:36 PM
LTIR applies during the off season. Lou on the ball again.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs...rown-deal.html

There had been concern the Leafs could not sign him now because paying market value would put them over the NHL's summer salary cap. NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly, however, told the Star that there is such a thing as long-term injured reserve cap space at this time of year even though it doesn't appear to be spelled out in the collective agreement and that should give the Leafs enough room.

"It's a longstanding interpretation of the LTI provisions of the CBA," said Daly. "It has to be re-applied for. We have had several applications in the past going as far back as the summer of 2006."

Lamoriello said the Leafs have already applied for it.
Time to make some signings like Connor Brown.

dbaz
07-12-2017, 11:00 PM
Leafs sign the steal of the draft.

Management must like what they see to sign him so soon.

not even a month after the draft and hes the steal of the draft. delusional leaf fans at it again :lawl:

cant wait for next 2 years when they have to re-sign Austin to 10mil, marner for 9mil and nylander for 8mil. that's before a possible offersheet

add that to their shitty overpriced d, fucked. oh wait they have to sign that 5d gardiner to top 4 money too :lawl:

Ch28
07-12-2017, 11:16 PM
not even a month after the draft and hes the steal of the draft. delusional leaf fans at it again :lawl:

cant wait for next 2 years when they have to re-sign Austin to 10mil, marner for 9mil and nylander for 8mil. that's before a possible offersheet

add that to their shitty overpriced d, fucked. oh wait they have to sign that 5d gardiner to top 4 money too :lawl:

Hasn't even played a single NHL game.

Leafs fan: STEAL OF THE DRAFT, GUISE!!!

Don't worry, they'll get a steal of a deal on the steal of this draft, too.

http://i.imgur.com/jr2tUBk.gif

Bouncing Bettys
07-13-2017, 01:47 AM
Interdasting posts guise, especially after having stated:
It was mostly sarcasm.
Fixed it for you:
Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys

Leafs sign the officialsteal of the draft.


All sarcasm aside, you had comments like these:
Liljegren still around. I thought he would be a top 10 pick too

I'm still jealous of Toronto getting Liljegren for such a steal
Or Blake Price/Matt Sekeres(not sure which it was) on draft day saying Liljegren could be the steal of the draft.

Fixed*
Originally posted by Ch28
Canuck fans on Liljegren: STEAL OF THE DRAFT, GUISE!!!
Originally Posted by dbaz
not even a month after the draft and hes the steal of the draft. delusional Canuck fans at it again

slicrick
07-13-2017, 11:23 AM
It was almost Cam Fowler-esque how Liljegren fell. Toronto I think is a good franchise for him to go to, they'll take care of him well and provide the support and what he needs to succeed.

I was really hoping Liljegren would fall to NYR at 20. They picked Filip Chytil with that pick who apparently has looked great in development camp, but it'll take years to really find out who's a steal and whatnot. Maybe there is a Jamie Benn hiding somewhere in those late round picks..

highfive
07-13-2017, 11:45 AM
Good pick but doesn't mean steal of the draft. None of them are right now because season hasn't started yet. Go win the calder and I'll say he's the steal of the draft.

Hell...maybe kostin is the steal of the draft. 1st rank euro skater picked at 31.

6o4__boi
07-13-2017, 12:03 PM
Chaput re-signed for 1 year one way at $675k

One more year of Chaput & Megna!
Basically the twin turbos of the tank.

:lawl:

roastpuff
07-13-2017, 12:16 PM
Chaput re-signed for 1 year one way at $675k

One more year of Chaput & Megna!
Basically the twin turbos of the tank.

:lawl:

Honestly keep them 3rd/4th line and they'll be fine.

68style
07-13-2017, 12:36 PM
Competition like has never been seen before for forward spots this coming camp and they put Megna and Chaput on one way deals?! Crazy

Hakkaboy
07-13-2017, 01:33 PM
Competition like has never been seen before for forward spots this coming camp and they put Megna and Chaput on one way deals?! Crazy

one way just means they earn the same salary if they are sent down to AHL

doesn't affect anything else except for that. They can still be waived*/sent down whether on a 1 way or 2 way

*disclaimer assuming they are waiver-eligible. They aren't important enough for me to check lol

6o4__boi
07-13-2017, 02:01 PM
both are waiver eligible

doubt anyone would claim though

highfive
07-13-2017, 02:12 PM
I thought Chaput was a pretty good fourth line centre. His faceoff % was pretty good last season too. Cant never have enough big righty centres.

Jmac
07-13-2017, 03:50 PM
Qualifying offer would've had to have been $0.6875M NHL and $0.385M AHL anyways.

So he got exactly what he got qualified for in the NHL, only difference is he makes more if he's sent down.

Jmac
07-13-2017, 03:52 PM
one way just means they earn the same salary if they are sent down to AHL

doesn't affect anything else except for that. They can still be waived*/sent down whether on a 1 way or 2 way

*disclaimer assuming they are waiver-eligible. They aren't important enough for me to check lol
You can pretty much assume anyone who's at least 23 with more than 1 season of professional North American hockey under his belt is eligible for waivers.

68style
07-13-2017, 05:11 PM
one way just means they earn the same salary if they are sent down to AHL

doesn't affect anything else except for that. They can still be waived*/sent down whether on a 1 way or 2 way

*disclaimer assuming they are waiver-eligible. They aren't important enough for me to check lol

I realize that, but it means they're much less likely to be sent down, which in both of their cases is a dubious proposition at best.

Ch28
07-13-2017, 05:17 PM
I realize that, but it means they're much less likely to be sent down, which in both of their cases is a dubious proposition at best.

Guys like Chaput and Megna will be sent down. They're a dime a dozen grinders that can be easily replaced with Utica players.

68style
07-13-2017, 09:16 PM
^ How long have you been a Canucks fan? I wish I had your confidence lol

Ch28
07-13-2017, 10:15 PM
^ How long have you been a Canucks fan? I wish I had your confidence lol

Been a long enough fan that the name Nathan LaFayette brings a tear to my eye.

dbaz
07-14-2017, 09:54 AM
yea theres just no chance they are on the opening roster unless theres lots of injuries

sedin-sedin granlund
bae-bo-boe
Eriksson-sutter-rodin
gaunce-burmistrov-gagner


for the following one or two f spots it leaves these players: dorsett, boucher, chaput, Virtanen, megna, goldobin, labate, Molino

murd0c
07-14-2017, 10:31 AM
any word on how Dorsett is even recovering?

dbaz
07-14-2017, 11:30 AM
there were reports he would be starting the season on ir, which I think is what will happen. but I haven't really seen any news on him for awhile, probably because it has the chance to be career ending

murd0c
07-14-2017, 12:04 PM
I was thinking that as well, I have a feeling he might be done sadly. Hope not since he has heart and can kick some ass but it would be nice to get that cap hit off our books.

pastarocket
07-14-2017, 12:45 PM
Any word on the contract talks between Dim Jim and Horvat's agent?

My guess is that the team will offer a 6 year contract extension to Bo Ho.

Jmac
07-14-2017, 12:56 PM
2 x $3.5M bridge

murd0c
07-14-2017, 01:12 PM
no way they are going to be giving him a bridge deal

pastarocket
07-14-2017, 01:42 PM
Yeah, it makes no sense for Dim Jim to offer a bridge deal to Horvat.
A bridge deal would mean less cap room available for Dim Jim to work with in terms of signing other players.

Keep Bo Ho locked in a lower cap hit using a longer term contract, say 6 years, so that you have more cap room to work with. The league salary cap would also increase in the future.

Some comparisons between Bo Ho and other players:

What to expect in Bo Horvat?s next contract | Georgia Straight Vancouver's News & Entertainment Weekly (http://www.straight.com/blogra/936756/what-expect-bo-horvats-next-contract)

6o4__boi
07-14-2017, 02:51 PM
Slightly less than Tyler Johnson money

but likely 6-8 years if i had to guess

dbaz
07-14-2017, 03:08 PM
palat just got 5years at 5.3. i would think bo would get more than that, due to taxes here and he will probably be better in year 2/3 of a contract than palat will ever be

so probably 6mil+. anything less long term and a good job by jim

dbaz
07-20-2017, 07:17 AM
Patrick starting off his Flyers days just like how he ended his WHL days, injured.

Flyers' Patrick sidelined by facial infection - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/flyers-patrick-sidelined-by-facial-infection-1.809352)

Jmac
07-20-2017, 08:52 AM
palat just got 5years at 5.3. i would think bo would get more than that, due to taxes here and he will probably be better in year 2/3 of a contract than palat will ever be

so probably 6mil+. anything less long term and a good job by jim Taxes won't factor into it at all.

winson604
07-20-2017, 09:50 AM
Yea I don't recall Canadian Teams having to throw more money because taxes are higher in this country. It is what it is.

Bouncing Bettys
07-20-2017, 10:30 AM
You can bet the markets with low taxes include that point when making a pitch to sign players.

Back when the Leafs were pursuing Stamkos, there was plenty of talk about overpaying to compensate for taxes:
Stamkos’ hometown Maple Leafs, due to a 53.53 per cent combined federal/provincial tax rate, would have to offer him $12.37 million annually over seven years to net the same as he’d make over eight years at $8.5 million in Tampa
The other tactic, which really only the big market Canadian teams can utilize, is endorsements. The CEO of Canadian Tire attended the talks between the Leafs and Stamkos to help facilitate a deal.

Jmac
07-20-2017, 12:40 PM
Yeah all the best players are playing for Dallas, Florida, and Tampa Bay. They have, what, like 20 consecutive cups now?

Teams like the Rangers and the Leafs always have difficulty attracting free agents because of high taxes and high cost of living.

winson604
07-20-2017, 01:24 PM
So peaking about tax rates. I guess yes, that's very logical. Stumbled across this article which outlines that and also lists all the tax rates for every team.

https://canucksarmy.com/2017/07/12/jason-demers-and-tax-rates/

dbaz
07-20-2017, 01:57 PM
Yeah all the best players are playing for Dallas, Florida, and Tampa Bay. They have, what, like 20 consecutive cups now?

Teams like the Rangers and the Leafs always have difficulty attracting free agents because of high taxes and high cost of living.

well i think marleau proved how toronto gets free agents. that one god ugly contract

not saying its the major deciding factor, but taxes play into deal player receive, especially when receiving multiple offers

Jmac
07-20-2017, 02:23 PM
Horvat is a restricted free agent without arbitration rights. The only leverage he has is signing an offer sheet with another team, which has nothing to do with taxes.

Besides, you almost never see top free agents signing with Dallas, Florida, Nashville, or Tampa Bay despite the lower tax rates.

It should also be noted that the player pays taxes based on where the game is played, so only half of the games are taxed at his team's rate. And top players almost always re-sign with the same team regardless of tax rate.

TjAlmeida
07-20-2017, 03:33 PM
Horvat is a restricted free agent without arbitration rights. The only leverage he has is signing an offer sheet with another team, which has nothing to do with taxes.

Besides, you almost never see top free agents signing with Dallas, Florida, Nashville, or Tampa Bay despite the lower tax rates.

It should also be noted that the player pays taxes based on where the game is played, so only half of the games are taxed at his team's rate. And top players almost always re-sign with the same team regardless of tax rate.

I think you are referring to two different things. You are saying because some of those teams are in income tax free states everyone wants to go there. Where as everyone else is saying when players sign there they seem to take less money due to having a large tax break on majority of the games in a season.

Gumby
07-24-2017, 11:59 PM
Linden's wife had a baby boy a week or two ago. Named him Roman! First child for the couple.

6o4__boi
07-25-2017, 07:43 AM
Reid Boucher settles for a one way one year at $687k

Pretty intriguing prospect/young player. He has a surprisingly high overall on NHL 17 lol

slicrick
07-25-2017, 11:10 AM
Mika Zibanejad re-signs with NYR. 5 years 5.35M AAV

No complaints from me, had a good regular season in the making (56GP, 14G 23A.) before breaking his fibula. Finished the playoffs strong with 9 points in 12 GP.

Not the #1 center NYR needs but he outperformed Stepan in both the regular and post-season for 1.15M less. Only 24 years old and has lots of development left, if he has a good off-season and stays healthy next year I don't think 60-70 points is out of the question.

I would expect similar term and $ for Horvat

jerche
07-25-2017, 04:12 PM
Willie is hired as head coach of the Olympic team

Willie Desjardins fronts Canadian Olympic hockey coaching staff - CBC Sports - Road to the Olympic Games winter sports (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/winter/watch-hockey-canada-olympic-announcement-1.4220399)

bobbinka
07-25-2017, 05:26 PM
Rosters for those events have already been stocked with the likes of former NHLers Max Talbot, Derek Roy, Mason Raymond, Ben Scrivens, Justin Peters, Cam Barker, Marc-Antoine Pouliot and Carlo Colaiacovo — all now playing in Europe.

:pokerface:

Ch28
07-25-2017, 06:40 PM
Don't forget that we also have former Canucks Andrew Ebbett, Linden Vey, and Brandon McMillan on Hockey Canada's pre-Olympic tournament roster

RRxtar
07-25-2017, 07:40 PM
i cant wait to not be excited about Olympic hockey for a change... said no one ever.

punkwax
07-25-2017, 07:44 PM
I'm actually curious to see how we do. We have the most NHLers so interested to see how our B (arguably C) players do. Especially against KHL, Swedish elite etc.

Plus the Willie D factor. I'll be tuning in for sure.

Ch28
07-25-2017, 08:10 PM
Won't be surprised to see Sweden/Russia in finals

murd0c
07-26-2017, 12:15 PM
https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/canucks-announce-new-hockey-operations-roles/c-290507678


Vancouver, BC - Vancouver Canucks President, Hockey Operations, Trevor Linden announced new roles within the club's Hockey Operations department today. Ryan Johnson was named General Manager of the Utica Comets and Gary Agnew joins Utica as an Associate Coach. Among the scouting staff, Brett Henning was named Director of Professional Scouting, Brian Chapman and David Volek joined the professional scouts and four Amateur Scouts were added to the staff.


"We're pleased to confirm expanded roles for Ryan Johnson and Brett Henning today and welcome Gary Agnew to the Comets coaching staff," said Linden. "Ryan's leadership and guidance with our prospects has benefitted their development. This added responsibility allows him to further monitor and support the development path of our next core from the junior to professional level."

Ryan Johnson adds Comets General Manager duties to his existing role as Director of Player Development, and joins Pat Conacher, Director of Hockey Operations, in the Utica front office. In this expanded role Johnson will continue to work closely with prospects in the system and lead the day-to-day function of Comets Hockey Operations. He originally joined the Canucks as a Player Development Consultant in 2013 and became Director of Player Development in 2016. Johnson played 210 games in a Canucks uniform over a 701 game NHL career (38-84-122).

Gary Agnew joins Trent Cull's staff as Comets Associate Coach and adds experience at the NHL, AHL and junior coaching levels. "We're excited to add Gary to a strong coaching staff in Utica," added Linden. "His experience complements our group led by Head Coach Trent Cull and Assistant Coach Jason King." He most recently worked as an Assistant Coach with the Pittsburgh Penguins during the 2015.16 season. Agnew's experience is highlighted by a head coaching role with the Syracuse Crunch of the AHL, General Manager/Head Coach of the London Knights and he was twice recognized as OHL Coach of the Year.

Brett Henning becomes Director of Professional Scouting after seven seasons as a member of the Canucks scouting staff. "Brett has a strong scouting background and a proven understanding of our organizational needs. We're excited about each of these changes and believe they support our long-term goals." Henning has added David Volek and Brian Chapman to his staff, both of whom previously served as Amateur Scouts for the Canucks

The Canucks also welcomed four new Amateur Scouts adding Todd Harvey, Paul Gallagher, Doug Gasper and Vincent Montalbano to the team. Lucien DeBlois, Ken Cook and Mike Addessa have parted ways with the club.

Long-time Canucks fan favourite Harold Snepsts retires from the scouting ranks after 12 years with the Amateur Scouting staff, but remains with the club in an ambassador role. "I'd like to thank Harold for his contributions to our scouting team," said Linden. "We're thrilled to have him continue to represent the Canucks as an ambassador."

Snepsts played 12 seasons as a Vancouver Canuck and was named to the Ring of Honour (March 2011). He recorded 233 points (38-195-233) and 2,009 penalty minutes for Vancouver, Minnesota North Stars, Detroit and St. Louis over the span of his NHL career. He also served as head coach of the IHL's Peoria and San Diego and the WHL's Portland, as well as a NHL assistant coach with the St. Louis Blues immediately after his retirement from the team

6o4__boi
07-26-2017, 01:32 PM
:notbad:

https://twitter.com/SheeDesjardins/status/890023098937991168

EmperorIS
07-26-2017, 07:52 PM
Looks like you guys got the wrong coach fired. Idiots.

jdmhaze
07-26-2017, 09:05 PM
Some people might laugh and think "Oh that's cute, shes saying put me in the lineup, Dad", but what they don't know is he can create some of the worst possible line combinations and he might actually fucking do it.

Jmac
07-27-2017, 04:57 AM
Linden Vey guaranteed 1st line centre.

Nabatron
07-27-2017, 08:40 AM
man this Canadian team looks like they will get pumped by the Russians. I can see Russians actually winning Olympic gold but probably have an astrics beside it...

highfive
07-27-2017, 09:19 AM
It'll be hilarious to see Russia though. Can't win with the NHL players and can't win without them. haha