[buhdeh]

Always knew NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NHL. Good on their players for sitting out.

[welfare]

He was being chased because he shot someone first. What the fk is a 17-year-old doing on the street with an assault rifle at night? FailFish

he shot someone in the head first before he was jumped. the others weren't going to randomly attack a guy wielding a gun that didn't do anything.

And how do you know he didn't shoot in self defense?
How do you know it was even him?
Where is your evidence? Please share it.

[Manic!]

And how do you know he didn't shoot in self defense?
How do you know it was even him?
Where is your evidence? Please share it.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/06/18/nyregion/18nytrump1/18nytrump1-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale

[birddog3k]

Gentirification is usually follow by displacement of the original inhabitant. Since you are an investor in US real estate (I assume you are just an investor and not someone that actually resides in the neighborhood). How do you know that the original inhabitant actually benefits? How many of those poor black american living in the area being gentrify are actual home owner?

Who is truly benefiting from a raising property prices in an ex slum? The slumlord or the unfornately renter that have no choice but to live in the ghetto to begin with, precisely due to its low rent price? Where do those people go now that they can no longer afford rent in their previous resident?

This is speaking from a position of priviledge where one already own asset. AKA you as the real estate investor. Any development is great, it improves the ares, raise the economy. All things you can tangibly measure with stats and numbers. What you can't measure is the plight of those that doesn't get records on any official numbers. You know the truly improvish and an under priviledge are doesn't show up in official statistic, Its too poor to even file a tax report and hence does not show in official data and a measurable unit.

One of the big criticism of Trump is his reliance on cherry picking statistic to support his view. For some one with an economic background, this isn't hard to do. What is harder and require empathical thinking is gauging what these numbers have missed.

Gentrification is a neat magic trick. But it isn't a inclusive solution, more akin to sweeping all the dust under the couch and calling it gone instead of vaccuming it up.

There are economic advantages for the original tenants as well. Gentrification doesn't happen overnight; your rent doesn't go from $400 a month to $900 instantly. The new uses of property allows for the community to open businesses to provide services. These businesses require people which results in an increase in wages and a decrease in unemployment. As the area grows, property values and wages rise. The increase in economic activity leads to a rise in living standards for everyone. Everyone benefits from improvement.

If you're concerned with people being displaced by gentrification, you have to ask why this has happened. This could be many reasons, poor education leading to lack of unemployment opportunities, unfortunate circumstances beyond their control, disability, and a ton more reasons. So tackle those. If we're looking at poor education, maybe it's time for an education reform. If someone doesn't know how to manage money maybe start introducing income statements and balance sheets to kids.

Looks like little Kyle also participated in a program for youth interested in joing law enforcement.

I'm so tired of the gas lighting. This is the type of people who are joining law enforcement. White, angry, suburban kids that want to treat the world like the Call of Duty game they play on a daily basis. People who think it makes sense to shoot indiscriminately into a group of protesters. Notice how young Kyle was "arrested" rather than being shot in the back or head?

Fascinating how that works.

This is the type of people joining law enforcement? Really? There are something like 800,000 cops nationwide in the States. If even 1% of them thought the way you suggest, we'd have a ton more killings no? There were 1004 people killed by police last year which doesn't seem like a huge number considering there are 800,000 cops.

Let's say this number of too damn high. Do you think defunding the police is the solution? And if so, why? and how would you do it?

[Bouncing Bettys]

Always knew NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NHL. Good on their players for sitting out.
*cough Free Hong Kong

[Manic!]

There were 1004 people killed by police last year which doesn't seem like a huge number considering there are 800,000 cops.



and how many beat up, injured, or raped?

[Manic!]

looks like the NBA season is done. Lakers and Clippers will not be playing.

Edit bucks too.

[SkinnyPupp]

looks like the NBA season is done. Lakers and Clippers will not be playing.

Edit bucks too.
Source?

Edit; the thing that sucks about twitter as opposed to going to news sites, they always post the latest news but if you don't follow specific people, you don't see it

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1298811949736701952

[Gumby]

Always knew NBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NHL. Good on their players for sitting out.
How many black players in the NBA vs NHL?

[GS8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFQJaMGCc4

Revscene: Car Lives Matter

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFQJaMGCc4

Revscene: Car Lives Matter

Not those cars.

[buhdeh]

How many black players in the NBA vs NHL?

NBA, WNBA, MLB, even TENNIS stopped their games.

Meanwhile you have dumbasses in the NHL crying about getting punched in the face for saying they’d vote for Trump.

[dbaz]

Not saying that the force taken was alright...clearly wasnt. but americans are now making a martyr out of someone charged with sexual assault last month

[Hondaracer]

NBA, WNBA, MLB, even TENNIS stopped their games.

Meanwhile you have dumbasses in the NHL crying about getting punched in the face for saying they’d vote for Trump.

yea breh, free speech only matters when it aligns with your narrative.

I get the whole thing and i tip my hat to the NBA and other leagues for taking the night off, and perhaps even boycotting the rest of the season. Given the demographic of the owners you would hope it might actually enact some sort of real change, or at the very least, money put forward to start foundations and organizations, or any mention of HK, etc.

However, any mention of Lebron and the fact that this is all "bigger than money" is pretty rich.. It's not bigger than money when slave labour has to keep your shoe line pumping out.

[mikemhg]

Every comment on that video is in support of him lol.. :pokerface:

Youtube comment section is a cesspool of human garbage.

[mikemhg]

There are economic advantages for the original tenants as well. Gentrification doesn't happen overnight; your rent doesn't go from $400 a month to $900 instantly. The new uses of property allows for the community to open businesses to provide services. These businesses require people which results in an increase in wages and a decrease in unemployment. As the area grows, property values and wages rise. The increase in economic activity leads to a rise in living standards for everyone. Everyone benefits from improvement.

If you're concerned with people being displaced by gentrification, you have to ask why this has happened. This could be many reasons, poor education leading to lack of unemployment opportunities, unfortunate circumstances beyond their control, disability, and a ton more reasons. So tackle those. If we're looking at poor education, maybe it's time for an education reform. If someone doesn't know how to manage money maybe start introducing income statements and balance sheets to kids.



This is the type of people joining law enforcement? Really? There are something like 800,000 cops nationwide in the States. If even 1% of them thought the way you suggest, we'd have a ton more killings no? There were 1004 people killed by police last year which doesn't seem like a huge number considering there are 800,000 cops.

Let's say this number of too damn high. Do you think defunding the police is the solution? And if so, why? and how would you do it?

I've already explained my ideas behind "defunding". I'm not going to continue to repeat myself, read my prior posts on the subject and you will see what I've suggested.

In short, defunding is not the solution. Diverting and restructuring is what we're calling for here.

In terms of the NHL, meh, I don't care if they sit out to be honest. Let's be real here, it's a predominantly white sport, the NHL has never been a bastion of diversity and inclusion, them sitting out does little to nothing to advance change to this problem. Shit in some leagues here in Canada, they're still throwing bananas onto the rink and calling black players "niggers".

https://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/story/2020-06-08/nhl-battle-to-eradicate-racism-in-hockey-continues
https://www.nhl.com/news/banana-thrown-at-flyers-simmonds-during-nhl-exhibition-game-in-london/c-589488
https://www.si.com/hockey/news/khl-investigating-racist-incident-after-bananas-thrown-at-edwin-hedberg-post-game
https://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/racial-slurs-are-common-in-toronto-area-minor-hockey-league-players-say-1.4972991

It is what it is.

[mikemhg]

I love how every time we have a police shooting of a black man, the character assassination begins almost instantaneously. You wonder why BLM doesn't have a stated leader? This very reasoning.

This whole situation to watch some folks defend this Kyle kid is absolutely infuriating me.
He had no reason to bloody be there, why is he crossing state lines to show up to a protest with his AR? How can anyone with a sentient mind try to attempt the mental gymnastics to find his actions acceptable? Unbelievable.

[unit]

And how do you know he didn't shoot in self defense?
How do you know it was even him?
Where is your evidence? Please share it.

https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1298548642916323330

he literally said he just killed that guy

[welfare]

This whole situation to watch some folks defend this Kyle kid is absolutely infuriating me.
He had no reason to bloody be there, why is he crossing state lines to show up to a protest with his AR? How can anyone with a sentient mind try to attempt the mental gymnastics to find his actions acceptable? Unbelievable.

People burning, destroying property, and committing violence had no reason to be there either I guess.
I'm sure if they weren't, he wouldn't be.
He's from Antioch Illinois. It's about the same distance from Kenosha as Vancouver is from Surrey.

https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1298548642916323330

he literally said he just killed that guy

Right before he was attacked with what looks like Molotov cocktails.
As the adage goes, play with fire get burned.

https://youtu.be/30FP4QdryjE

[Manic!]

Canucks have canceled their game. Looks like the NHL is getting involved now.
Edit: NHLPA has decided to cancel all hockey games.

[Manic!]

People burning, destroying property, and committing violence had no reason to be there either I guess.
I'm sure if they weren't, he wouldn't be.
He's from Antioch Illinois. It's about the same distance from Kenosha as Vancouver is from Surrey.



Right before he was attacked with what looks like Molotov cocktails.
As the adage goes, play with fire get burned.

https://youtu.be/30FP4QdryjE

The kid broke multiple laws buy transporting a gun across state lines and open carrying. You have to be 18 to open carry. Maybe the guy who got shot was just trying to make citizens arrest?

And the buzz news on youtube with 1000 subs is really creditable news source.

[GGnoRE]

How about as a start until they figure this out, they hire enough black police officers such that all police officers are paired as black + white and white officers should always defer to the black officer to lead the engagement if the situation is involving a black person. If another black man has to die in police confrontation, it should be in the hands of a black officer. There is absolutely no trust left between the police and the black community. If there aren't enough black police officers, they should actively recruit and expedite training or as an alternative, hire volunteers from the black community to shadow police officers.

[westopher]

I genuinely don’t think there’s enough black people in law enforcement or the population to do that, but to further the idea, why not have black and POC independent bodies that have the power to work with the police and hold them accountable for racist behaviour and incidents?
I don’t mean a broad body like the naacp or something like that, I mean every state and large city should have their own.

[welfare]

The kid broke multiple laws buy transporting a gun across state lines and open carrying. You have to be 18 to open carry. Maybe the guy who got shot was just trying to make citizens arrest?

And the buzz news on youtube with 1000 subs is really creditable news source.

The video is synced to the same video unit posted, but sure, whatever fits your narrative

[Hondaracer]

Weren’t both of the other officers involved in the George Floyd thing “visible minorities” ?

Don’t think that’s a solution frankly.

[unit]

People burning, destroying property, and committing violence had no reason to be there either I guess.
I'm sure if they weren't, he wouldn't be.
He's from Antioch Illinois. It's about the same distance from Kenosha as Vancouver is from Surrey.

Right before he was attacked with what looks like Molotov cocktails.
As the adage goes, play with fire get burned.

https://youtu.be/30FP4QdryjE

we'll see how the court rules once they've collected the actual evidence, then we'll revisit this conversation.

[JD¹³]

Yeah I'm sure this guy was trying to make a Citizens Arrest!! :lol
Second video, maroon shirt. He then took his shirt off to cover his face and charged the kid with the rifle.

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298474730966659072
https://i.imgur.com/rMCF3Pa.jpg

Definitely one of the dumbest statements Manic has ever made. What an absolute clown LOL.

At least little Joseph died doing what he loved... chasing minors.

[Manic!]

Weren’t both of the other officers involved in the George Floyd thing “visible minorities” ?

Don’t think that’s a solution frankly.



https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3c/George_Floyd_neck_knelt_on_by_police_officer.png/220px-George_Floyd_neck_knelt_on_by_police_officer.png

[westopher]

Patiently waiting for the defenders of school shooters in here come September.
HE WAS WITHIN HIS RIGHTS TO SHOOT, THAT 11 YEAR OLD TRIED TO CHARGE HIM.

[Manic!]

Yeah I'm sure this guy was trying to make a Citizens Arrest!! :lol
Second video, maroon shirt. He then took his shirt off to cover his face and charged the kid with the rifle.

https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298474730966659072
https://i.imgur.com/rMCF3Pa.jpg

Definitely one of the dumbest statements Manic has ever made. What an absolute clown LOL.

At least little Joseph died doing what he loved... chasing minors.

I was using the same logic you use. Now does a criminal have a right to self defence?

[280ZX]

What I learned in this thread! Your resource are not reliable (throws insult), but mine is! Betting as in gambling solves disputes when both the right and left jam their ideology down each other's throats! Deflection, going from riots on the streets then to school shooting!(Among others)! Oh yeah, did I mention insults too! This thread reminds me of a dog chasing it's own tail! The thread was good early on, now it's just a run around for each others agenda!

[Bouncing Bettys]

^

[68style]

^ What other method is there but to provide documentation supporting your views? Unfortunately there’s nobody that’s ever going to be in power to say “Hey guys this is what actually happened” so I’m not sure what you’re looking for in any discussion of any matter tbh. People have their view and they’re going to purport them.

Btw I think the 280zx gets a bad rap, best Transformers ever Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen... but everyone rips them in favour of the 240/260 haha

[GS8]

What I learned in this thread! Your resource are not reliable (throws insult), but mine is! Betting as in gambling solves disputes when both the right and left jam their ideology down each other's throats! Deflection, going from riots on the streets then to school shooting!(Among others)! Oh yeah, did I mention insults too! This thread reminds me of a dog chasing it's own tail! The thread was good early on, now it's just a run around for each others agenda!

https://www.revscene.net/forums/customavatars/avatar4253_2.gif

Btw I think the 280zx gets a bad rap, best Transformers ever Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen... but everyone rips them in favour of the 240/260 haha

I had Zeemon when I was a kid

http://www.vectronicscollections.org/actionfigures/images/zeemon/nsnap6.jpg

http://www.vectronicscollections.org/actionfigures/images/zeemon/msnap6.jpg

Gobots was such an afterthought...:facepalm:

[StylinRed]

Lmao I had the black one! Actually I think I still have it somewhere

[mikemhg]

A black one too? Dang you been with us from the beginning :lol

[StylinRed]

Lmao the black one was whatever the evil gobots were called, he was like their mad scientist iirc, I wanted both, but was told I could only get one

[SkinnyPupp]

How many black players in the NBA vs NHL?
Thank god most non black people don't think like this

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld_TpnRP1OI

rand paul the doctor/senator who came to Canada for surgery because no doctor in the US was good enough for him. I wonder if he paid for his room at trump hotel or did the tax payers pay for it.

[StylinRed]

What's wrong with rand paul?

[mikemhg]

What's wrong with rand paul?

Because he's a Trump aligned RNC Senator, and the protesters were also shouting the name Breonna Taylor at him, an EMT who was shot dead in his state of Kentucky after police raided her apartment using a no-knock warrant.

He has also spoken up in support of the police, along with towing the same party line we've seen Trump et all expound.

Read more about him, he's truly a piece of garbage, even his own neighbor beat him up a year or so ago :lol

This was clearly a photo op. He knows what he was doing, he could've easily taken a vehicle from the White House speech. He walked the street to create a reaction, which was clearly going to happen. Then he runs over to Fox News crying that he and his wife "could've been killed". Please, for guys who love to use the term snow flake, they are the epitome of just of that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8672681/BLM-protesters-gather-outside-White-House-Trumps-RNC-speech.html

I must say though, this whole Kyle thing, along with these armed militia that are turning up to "protect" property, and create engagements with protesters is quite concerning. What especially is concerning is watching the police thank the militiamen, throw them water, and otherwise aligning themselves with them.

This creates an extremely dangerous precedent. It tells these right-wing militia guys that hey "We as the police support you", "We will protect you". I surmise you will see more of these guys showing up to protests, feeling emboldened. The police literally let that Kyle kid walk right by them, to which he returned home after shooting 3 people. What kind of statement does that make to the public of where the police loyalty lies? If anything that gives more credence to what we've been saying here.

Mark my words, this is how a civil war starts. We will see more right-wing militia show up to these rallies, when bullets begin flying, you will have retaliation, which begins a circle of violence that may not stop. If Trump was a serious president, he'd realize how dangerous this situation is becoming, and attempt to calm the fire, but instead, he continues to throw gasoline on the flames. I'm telling you, this will not end well. More and more people are arming themselves at an unprecedented levels on both sides. This is serious stuff here.

[StylinRed]

I only really remember Rand Paul as being Ron Paul's son, and several yrs ago he was gaining popularity

Didnt even realize he spoke last night, ic

[Bouncing Bettys]

The same Rand Paul who wrote the Justice for Breonna Taylor act, regarding police accountability and putting an end to use no-knock raids?

[StylinRed]

Just saw that too I was like hmm

And its not the only time he's called for police reform

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8672681/BLM-protesters-gather-outside-White-House-Trumps-RNC-speech.html

Looks like everyone leaving the event were accosted, guess the white house wanted that to happen, as it doesn't seem like there was a plan in getting ppl out or security for them

[SkinnyPupp]

I must say though, this whole Kyle thing, along with these armed militia that are turning up to "protect" property, and create engagements with protesters is quite concerning. What especially is concerning is watching the police thank the militiamen, throw them water, and otherwise aligning themselves with them.


It's mind blowing for me to see so many parallels of what happened in Hong Kong last year to what's going on now in the US. First with the tear gas, attacking peaceful protesters, and now this.

[SkinnyPupp]

https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1299008895889928196

[birddog3k]

Because he's a Trump aligned RNC Senator, and the protesters were also shouting the name Breonna Taylor at him, an EMT who was shot dead in his state of Kentucky after police raided her apartment using a no-knock warrant.

He has also spoken up in support of the police, along with towing the same party line we've seen Trump et all expound.

Read more about him, he's truly a piece of garbage, even his own neighbor beat him up a year or so ago :lol

This was clearly a photo op. He knows what he was doing, he could've easily taken a vehicle from the White House speech. He walked the street to create a reaction, which was clearly going to happen. Then he runs over to Fox News crying that he and his wife "could've been killed". Please, for guys who love to use the term snow flake, they are the epitome of just of that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8672681/BLM-protesters-gather-outside-White-House-Trumps-RNC-speech.html

I must say though, this whole Kyle thing, along with these armed militia that are turning up to "protect" property, and create engagements with protesters is quite concerning. What especially is concerning is watching the police thank the militiamen, throw them water, and otherwise aligning themselves with them.

This creates an extremely dangerous precedent. It tells these right-wing militia guys that hey "We as the police support you", "We will protect you". I surmise you will see more of these guys showing up to protests, feeling emboldened. The police literally let that Kyle kid walk right by them, to which he returned home after shooting 3 people. What kind of statement does that make to the public of where the police loyalty lies? If anything that gives more credence to what we've been saying here.

Mark my words, this is how a civil war starts. We will see more right-wing militia show up to these rallies, when bullets begin flying, you will have retaliation, which begins a circle of violence that may not stop. If Trump was a serious president, he'd realize how dangerous this situation is becoming, and attempt to calm the fire, but instead, he continues to throw gasoline on the flames. I'm telling you, this will not end well. More and more people are arming themselves at an unprecedented levels on both sides. This is serious stuff here.


It was her fault that she was raped. She shouldn’t have worn that short dress. She shouldn’t have been walking home alone at night. She was practically asking for it. When she put her cup down she should have known someone would have drugged her so it’s her fault.

The people who are trying to physically assault/ kill aren’t the problem. No, the problem is the guy who’s “Trump aligned” for walking on the street.

You are a truly evil fuck who’s ideologically possessed. You’ve picked a side and will go to any length to make excuses for horrible actions. That’s how a civil war starts.

[Manic!]

It was her fault that she was raped. She shouldn’t have worn that short dress. She shouldn’t have been walking home alone at night. She was practically asking for it. When she put her cup down she should have known someone would have drugged her so it’s her fault.

The people who are trying to physically assault/ kill aren’t the problem. No, the problem is the guy who’s “Trump aligned” for walking on the street.

You are a truly evil fuck who’s ideologically possessed. You’ve picked a side and will go to any length to make excuses for horrible actions. That’s how a civil war starts.

Was anyone killed or even touched. FailFish

[StylinRed]

^^^yes click the dailymail link I posted above ^^^ one guy was even photographed being hit in the back of the head


as for rand paul, his hotel was across the st, but the secret service told them to take a shuttle to the trump hotel, they did, but road closures, etc made it a 45min trip, then they wanted to uber back to their hotel (I guess they weren't staying at the trump hotel? its not clear) and the uber got stuck in traffic, so they decided to walk the rest of the way, which is when they were set upon (this is according to rand paul btw)

[Manic!]

^^^yes click the dailymail link I posted above ^^^ one guy was even photographed being hit in the back of the head


as for rand paul, his hotel was across the st, but the secret service told them to take a shuttle to the trump hotel, they did, but road closures, etc made it a 45min trip, then they wanted to uber back to their hotel (I guess they weren't staying at the trump hotel? its not clear) and the uber got stuck in traffic, so they decided to walk the rest of the way, which is when they were set upon (this is according to rand paul btw)

Well, I guess it's a good thing Washington D.C. has stricter gun laws. Why was rand paul who works and lives in Washington D.C. staying at a hotel? and where was ted cruz and his ugly wife.

[welfare]

Pretty comprehensive breakdown here

https://youtu.be/NSU9ZvnudFE

[68style]

Lol right off the bat “my job is to come here and protect this business”

No your job is to be at home being 17 Kyle, that’s the police’s job and the job of people with actual training.

How idiotic.

[bcedhk]

lol at justifying carrying an AR-15 to a protest cause "it's the best defensive weapon in the world"...

If there were a dozen of protestors with guns, his AR-15 won't do shit to save his life. He might as well be carrying a bazooka and carry a suicide vest so people would avoid touching him.

[Manic!]

Pretty comprehensive breakdown here

https://youtu.be/NSU9ZvnudFE

A pro trump 2a gun nut who worked for the NRA, of course, he is going to say that. If he didn't he would lose o lot of his fans.

Actual practising lawyers in Wisconson think kyle committed a crime that's why he was charged.
This guy is an ass.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/24/nra-host-taunts-parkland-teens-no-one-would-know-your-names-if-classmates-were-still-alive/

NRA host taunts Parkland teens: ‘No one would know your names’ if classmates were still alive

[Hehe]

A pro trump 2a gun nut who worked for the NRA, of course, he is going to say that. If he didn't he would lose o lot of his fans.

This guy is an ass.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/24/nra-host-taunts-parkland-teens-no-one-would-know-your-names-if-classmates-were-still-alive/

bahaha... I love it when it's against your POV, you'd try all sort of thing to discredit this guy. And when it's for your cause, anything goes.

I didn't finish the video, but in the 5min I was in, the guy was simply talking from a legal technicality point of view... like the laws WI has about carrying the gun in this case and it wasn't in any way biased. Ok... maybe a lefty would be adding "why the fuck is this kid carrying a gun"... kinda thing. but up to 5min, he was fine.

[Manic!]

bahaha... I love it when it's against your POV, you'd try all sort of thing to discredit this guy. And when it's for your cause, anything goes.

I didn't finish the video, but in the 5min I was in, the guy was simply talking from a legal technicality point of view... like the laws WI has about carrying the gun in this case and it wasn't in any way biased. Ok... maybe a lefty would be adding "why the fuck is this kid carrying a gun"... kinda thing. but up to 5min, he was fine.

In what state is this guy a licensed and practicing lawyer?

[mikemhg]

How is Manic! automatically discrediting the guy? He literally works for the NRA, his show is on NRA.TV :lol

I've never not seen welfare post some esoteric right-wing news source when attempting to support his bizarre arguments.

Kyle had no reason to be there, it is not his job to protect property. The people he shot, is there any evidence to support they were destroying property? So are we saying now that property supersedes a human life? That's where we're at now, huh?

You say you support the police, if so, you should be against the actions of someone like Kyle, if anything he's putting the police in a more dangerous position by being there. He's creating an environment to incite further violence, I guarantee you more protesters will be showing up with pieces. Had Kyle not shown up to get into a conflict, no one would've died that night, that's a plain fact. You really think that kid gives a shit about a damn building, or a car? He's looking to play COD IRL.

If Kyle was a black man walking up the street with an AR shooting people, do you really think the police would let him walk by and go home? Do you truly believe that? :lol


Tell you what, if you support that direction we're going here, vigilante law, essentially. Next time you're having a dispute with your wife or girlfriend, I'll come knocking with my shotgun, because who knows, maybe you might assault her, I won't call 911, I'll handle it myself. The next time you see someone stealing a bike on the street, or shoplifting from a store, you might as well smoke them. That's the society you're advocating for, you don't see the slippery slope that creates?

[welfare]

A pro trump 2a gun nut who worked for the NRA, of course, he is going to say that. If he didn't he would lose o lot of his fans.

Actual practising lawyers in Wisconson think kyle committed a crime that's why he was charged.
This guy is an ass.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/24/nra-host-taunts-parkland-teens-no-one-would-know-your-names-if-classmates-were-still-alive/

:awwyeah:
Your comment just highlights your lack of a relevant argument.

[winson604]

In what state is this guy a licensed and practicing lawyer?

Houston Texas

https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=313592

[Manic!]

:awwyeah:
Your comment just highlights your lack of a relevant argument.

The guy is biased because he is a pro 2a youtuber. If he would have said kyle was in the wrong he would lose a bunch of viewers and money. As a youtuber his main goal is to make money. As a lawyer, his job is to defend his side right or wrong.

[RRxtar]

lol at justifying carrying an AR-15 to a protest cause "it's the best defensive weapon in the world"...

If there were a dozen of protestors with guns, his AR-15 won't do shit to save his life. He might as well be carrying a bazooka and carry a suicide vest so people would avoid touching him.
well. to be fair he did defend himself against a guy with a handgun.

[StylinRed]

Kyle had no reason to be there, it is not his job to protect property. The people he shot, is there any evidence to support they were destroying property? So are we saying now that property supersedes a human life? That's where we're at now, huh?

You can't say he had no reason to be there, just that you disagree with his reasons being there, his reason was to protect businesses and any people who were in urgent need, whatever, that's their reason (it's crazy to me, but 'merican), everyone should've been at home imho, especially after curfew, but that's not how things played out.

The blm protesters shouldn't have been there (after curfew, I can understand the point of ignoring the curfew, but still)

The anti violence protesters(?) shouldn't have been there

Most of all, no one should have weapons (but it's America)

No one should've been attacking anybody, and once you do attack anyone, you have to expect the possibility of dying/killing (because a simple knock to someone's head can cause death) and someone defending themselves can just as easily kill you too. This is especially true in a country where guns are legal

This kid wasn't attacking anyone, he was attacked, and he didn't even immediately shoot, he ran! He ran! Shooting was his last resort, and he didn't even flee after that, he called it in! He only ran again cuz he was being chased once more, and he only fired again because he was being beat, and one guy pulled a gun on him.

Regardless of your stance on the broader issues at hand, we need to be able to look at this situation free of biases (even Canadian biases)

Is there a case against him? Yeah of course, he shouldn't have been there (curfew), he shouldn't have a weapon (given his age) and as a result ppl are dead and injured

Is there a case for him? Yeah of course, he was acting in self defense, these are reasons why he'll have his day in court

It's a horrible situation, America is fukin cesspool of insanity, protests are no place for kids, weapons, or violence towards others, I've got no problem with destruction of public property (but not private), I'm shocked at how many ppl bring their children thinking it'd be a good learning experience (ppl I know too)

[Manic!]

well. to be fair he did defend himself against a guy with a handgun.

Only one had a legal right to open carry.

[Manic!]

I know the right loves to dirty up the victium so here is Kyle beating up a girl. imagine if he had a gun.

https://youtu.be/0T387QEk7qo

[Manic!]

One person dead in Portland. Seems like where ever trump supporters they cause problems.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/08/1-person-shot-killed-near-downtown-portland-protests-saturday.html

[StylinRed]

Is that actually him? I can't tell, the kid in the protest video looks like he may have down syndrome, the kid in the school fight looks less down syndromey


I'm just glad borders are closed for now, yikes

[mikemhg]

I don't think that's Kyle in the video Manic! posted, to be honest.

Trust me, we'll get a background on this kid, Stylin. As I said previously, I don't think he was there to "protect" property. I believe he was there to get himself into conflict, that shows to me direct intent. I'm sure there will be a forensic review of his cell phone messages, and his online presence prior to going down there for a further picture of what his intentions were.

[welfare]

Portland antifa celebrate killing a "nazi".

https://youtu.be/a9a4eF5iPCg

[Manic!]

Portland antifa celebrate killing a "nazi".

https://youtu.be/AHCaDFyk6rA

So when is killing a Nazi a bad thing?

https://media.thedonald.win/post/Xab6ycDg.jpeg

[Manic!]

I don't think that's Kyle in the video Manic! posted, to be honest.

Trust me, we'll get a background on this kid, Stylin. As I said previously, I don't think he was there to "protect" property. I believe he was there to get himself into conflict, that shows to me direct intent. I'm sure there will be a forensic review of his cell phone messages, and his online presence prior to going down there for a further picture of what his intentions were.

It's him. Here is part 2.


https://youtu.be/ugIJTCgduxE


https://thesource.com/2020/08/30/watch-17-year-old-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-caught-assaulting-girl-before-getting-a-beatdown/


https://thesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/kyle.jpeg

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/video-kyle-rittenhouse-allegedly-punching-girl/

Furthermore, a reporter in Wisconsin said in a tweet that the fight occurred on July 1 and that the recorders of the video confirmed to him “that the person in the red-white-and-blue trunks is Rittenhouse.”

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICEpmZlcre4&feature=emb_title

[welfare]

So when is killing a Nazi a bad thing?

https://media.thedonald.win/post/Xab6ycDg.jpeg

In the video of the Portland shooting you can hear "we got one right here" as the shooter walks up to the victim and says "right here?" before firing two rounds at him.

Anybody drawing a parallel to the deaths in Kenosha and this obvious murder is seriously sick and delusional.

[westopher]

If you aren’t disgusted by both to be honest you are pathetic.

[Manic!]

In the video of the Portland shooting you can hear "we got one right here" as the shooter walks up to the victim and says "right here?" before firing two rounds at him.

Anybody drawing a parallel to the deaths in Kenosha and this obvious murder is seriously sick and delusional.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgiDMvoWsAIixpx.png

[threezero]

Second what Skinnypupp said.

Crazy the parallel between this and the hong kong protest.

Except Merica's got guns on both sides.

[mikemhg]

Guess you're right Manic!, little Kyle does beat on girls.

I don't know, no excuses for him, but I don't think the video says much. It does show that the kid is prone to violence though, and perhaps thinks he's a bit of a little bad ass.

Like I said, there will be a postmortem on his cell phone activity, online presence, etc within the court case. I think it will clearly provide a picture that he never went down there to protect anything, and that his intentions were to use his weapon on someone, and get himself into a conflict.

Watching all these videos though only adds to what I've been saying, we're in some real dangerous territory here. The difference between the HK protests are that at least you're dealing with a homogeneous population of Chinese people, so yes there is animosity, but it's not the same as what we're seeing in the US.

[JD¹³]

Like I said, there will be a postmortem on his cell phone activity, online presence, etc within the court case. I think it will clearly provide a picture that he never went down there to protect anything, and that his intentions were to use his weapon on someone, and get himself into a conflict.
So where's the restraint and postmortem on the incidents with George Floyd and Jacob Blake? Instead of waiting for facts to emerge from thorough investigations people immediately started burning down cities.

George Floyd has now been found by the medical examiner to have taken a lethal overdose of Fentanyl. Defense for the Minneapolis officers has entered that as evidence along with the body cam footage which shows him with white substance in his mouth in his vehicle. It's now believed that he hid those drugs from police and accidentally ingested them while resisting arrest. Due to his pre-existing health conditions the dosage was fatal. Did the one officer kneel on his neck for too long? Absolutely, but it will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not the sole cause of death. They rushed to charge all those officers before doing a thorough investigation and now they've been over-charged meaning they will likely walk after charges are dropped or plead down to maybe manslaughter and he'll get time served and defamation.
This was false based on redacted documents. My bad.

Jacob Blake is a rapist pedophile that resisted arrest and reached for a weapon in his vehicle. The Aunt of the 14 year old girl that he raped posted about it all on Twitter. The response? Twitter SUSPENDED HER ACCOUNT!

https://twitter.com/lifeisasoph
https://i.imgur.com/8tHBFRC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dBEtetR.jpg

This piece of shit getting shot sparked more riots of ignorance in Kenosha which leads us to this Kyle kid. By the letter of the law he is guilty of open carrying as a minor but he was within his right to self defense for every shot he took, even if he wasn't supposed to have the firearm. Do they intend to charge him as an adult for murder or as a minor for the firearms infraction? Can't do both. He'll also essentially walk. There now appear to be witness testimonies being released and an autopsy report that show the little guy who was thought to be the first victim wasn't even killed by the kid! Kyle's rifle shot was a grazing head wound (which makes sense given the lack of blood pouring out of the guys head in the video) after he tried to take the rifle and that he was actually shot multiple times in the back by someone else from a different direction. The mob chased the kid down and assaulted him with deadly force and intent as a result.

I implore everyone to look all this up for themselves, including the criminal records of the 'victims' in all this. Due diligence and critical thinking instead of emotional reaction would have saved lives and billions in property damage.

We are in very dangerous territory for sure, that we agree on. The danger has risen from ignorance, jumping to conclusions, virtue signalling, and violent protest / rioting by the far left. Glad all the woke athletes, most of which never even finished college, are boycotting games and wearing the names of rapists on their jerseys and helmets. What a fucking embarrassment.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/75/d75017a6-8612-58d4-8458-934b580a1386/5f47e69d7f8cd.image.jpg?resize=750%2C409

[Manic!]

$1000 for JD¹³ or anyone who can last 8 minutes and 15 seconds with my knee on there neck. 100% serious.

[Hehe]

$1000 for JD¹³ or anyone who can last 8 minutes and 15 seconds with my knee on there neck. 100% serious.

How about 2000 for Manic! to get the same dosage of fentanyl with no knee on his neck and see what happens?

Again, you are letting emotions and personal opinions/prejudice get in the way.

You'd rather ignore pieces of evidence because it doesn't support your ideology, or BLM as a whole. And you would clearly send a person to jail even if there's reasonable doubt because that fits your opinion.

That's what's so fucked up about so many BLM supporters here. Truth or evidence doesn't matter when it doesn't support their narrative.

You believe that you are on the right side of the choice, when in fact, you ignore what's "right" in the first place.

[Manic!]

How about 2000 for Manic! to get the same dosage of fentanyl with no knee on his neck and see what happens?

Again, you are letting emotions and personal opinions/prejudice get in the way.

You'd rather ignore pieces of evidence because it doesn't support your ideology, or BLM as a whole. And you would clearly send a person to jail even if there's reasonable doubt because that fits your opinion.

That's what's so fucked up about so many BLM supporters here. Truth or evidence doesn't matter when it doesn't support their narrative.

You believe that you are on the right side of the choice, when in fact, you ignore what's "right" in the first place.


I don't do drugs and drugs affect people differently. Whats a lethal dose for one person is not for another. If you think having a knee on a person's neck for 8 minutes will not kill them you can win a $1000.

Also, emotiions have nothing to do with this. Cops should not be killing unarmed people.

[MarkyMark]

Fucking gun owners man. You love to spew shit about "responsible" gun ownership and then try and defend this Kyle kid. "Well by the letter of the law he shouldn't have even had a gun on him but he was well within his right to use it" lol WTF?

Hypocrites, you don't give a fuck about being responsible it's all about who's holding the gun and who's on the receiving end of it.

[JD¹³]

Fucking gun owners man. You love to spew shit about "responsible" gun ownership and then try and defend this Kyle kid. "Well by the letter of the law he shouldn't have even had a gun on him but he was well within his right to use it" lol WTF?

Hypocrites, you don't give a fuck about being responsible it's all about who's holding the gun and who's on the receiving end of it.
I'm not defending the kid at all, I'm just presenting the facts of the laws surrounding the incident. He shouldn't have been there and was in way over his head. To that point though none of the 'protestors' on the other side should have been there either as there was a curfew in place, and some of them were armed as well. The guy who tried to pretend he was there to help then drew his pistol on the kid while on the ground was also in possession of his firearm illegally due to prior charges. Only lost his right bicep, he's very lucky.

The point is they were ALL in the wrong, and it never should have gotten to the point where people were destroying property in "protest" and a 17 year old idiot felt he needed to go protect that property because the authorities failed to maintain order.

Apparently you don't like those facts, too bad. Thanks for projecting what I do and don't care about though :alone:

[punkwax]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2348fa2baab1b6e52d30da42bb3bd534/tenor.gif?itemid=8008605

[bcedhk]

So where's the restraint and postmortem on the incidents with George Floyd and Jacob Blake? Instead of waiting for facts to emerge from thorough investigations people immediately started burning down cities.

Jacob Blake is a rapist pedophile that resisted arrest and reached for a weapon in his vehicle. The Aunt of the 14 year old girl that he raped posted about it all on Twitter. The response? Twitter SUSPENDED HER ACCOUNT!
https://twitter.com/lifeisasoph
https://i.imgur.com/8tHBFRC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dBEtetR.jpg


I implore everyone to look all this up for themselves, including the criminal records of the 'victims' in all this. Due diligence and critical thinking instead of emotional reaction would have saved lives and billions in property damage.

We are in very dangerous territory for sure, that we agree on. The danger has risen from ignorance, jumping to conclusions, virtue signalling, and violent protest / rioting by the far left. Glad all the woke athletes, most of which never even finished college, are boycotting games and wearing the names of rapists on their jerseys and helmets. What a fucking embarrassment.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/75/d75017a6-8612-58d4-8458-934b580a1386/5f47e69d7f8cd.image.jpg?resize=750%2C409

Yeah I looked it up on Google....All the Twitter info and photo point to right-wing extremist websites and garbage facebook groups.

If this was accurate, wouldn't you expect this to be all over the major news agencies who are covering this?

[welfare]

If this was accurate, wouldn't you expect this to be all over the major news agencies who are covering this?

:lol:rofl::lol:rofl::lol:rofl:

[MarkyMark]

I'm not defending the kid at all, I'm just presenting the facts of the laws surrounding the incident. He shouldn't have been there and was in way over his head. To that point though none of the 'protestors' on the other side should have been there either as there was a curfew in place, and some of them were armed as well. The guy who tried to pretend he was there to help then drew his pistol on the kid while on the ground was also in possession of his firearm illegally due to prior charges. Only lost his right bicep, he's very lucky.

The point is they were ALL in the wrong, and it never should have gotten to the point where people were destroying property in "protest" and a 17 year old idiot felt he needed to go protect that property because the authorities failed to maintain order.

Apparently you don't like those facts, too bad. Thanks for projecting what I do and don't care about though :alone:

I'm not trying to single you out specifically, I'm grouping a large amount of people who are defending Kyle because "he was just trying to do the right thing when no one else would".

Once again not directing this right at you, but how many of these same people fighting for Kyle would have kept their mouths shut or condemned him if his name was Kareem?

[Manic!]

......

[mikemhg]

So where's the restraint and postmortem on the incidents with George Floyd and Jacob Blake? Instead of waiting for facts to emerge from thorough investigations people immediately started burning down cities.

George Floyd has now been found by the medical examiner to have taken a lethal overdose of Fentanyl. Defense for the Minneapolis officers has entered that as evidence along with the body cam footage which shows him with white substance in his mouth in his vehicle. It's now believed that he hid those drugs from police and accidentally ingested them while resisting arrest. Due to his pre-existing health conditions the dosage was fatal. Did the one officer kneel on his neck for too long? Absolutely, but it will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it was not the sole cause of death. They rushed to charge all those officers before doing a thorough investigation and now they've been over-charged meaning they will likely walk after charges are dropped or plead down to maybe manslaughter and he'll get time served and defamation.

Jacob Blake is a rapist pedophile that resisted arrest and reached for a weapon in his vehicle. The Aunt of the 14 year old girl that he raped posted about it all on Twitter. The response? Twitter SUSPENDED HER ACCOUNT!

https://twitter.com/lifeisasoph
https://i.imgur.com/8tHBFRC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dBEtetR.jpg

This piece of shit getting shot sparked more riots of ignorance in Kenosha which leads us to this Kyle kid. By the letter of the law he is guilty of open carrying as a minor but he was within his right to self defense for every shot he took, even if he wasn't supposed to have the firearm. Do they intend to charge him as an adult for murder or as a minor for the firearms infraction? Can't do both. He'll also essentially walk. There now appear to be witness testimonies being released and an autopsy report that show the little guy who was thought to be the first victim wasn't even killed by the kid! Kyle's rifle shot was a grazing head wound (which makes sense given the lack of blood pouring out of the guys head in the video) after he tried to take the rifle and that he was actually shot multiple times in the back by someone else from a different direction. The mob chased the kid down and assaulted him with deadly force and intent as a result.

I implore everyone to look all this up for themselves, including the criminal records of the 'victims' in all this. Due diligence and critical thinking instead of emotional reaction would have saved lives and billions in property damage.

We are in very dangerous territory for sure, that we agree on. The danger has risen from ignorance, jumping to conclusions, virtue signalling, and violent protest / rioting by the far left. Glad all the woke athletes, most of which never even finished college, are boycotting games and wearing the names of rapists on their jerseys and helmets. What a fucking embarrassment.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/nola.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/75/d75017a6-8612-58d4-8458-934b580a1386/5f47e69d7f8cd.image.jpg?resize=750%2C409

That is completely false, the fentanyl argument was put forward by Chavin's lawyer, the second independent examiner found Floyd died as asphyxiation via a knee to his neck. You're using the defendant lawyer's argument and placing that as fact, come on now.

I'm not here to cape for Jacob Blake, I don't know the man, I am only judging the police's actions to him. I've always said, there are far worse examples of police brutality that we're not even discussing anymore, and that's the problem with people like yourself.

You want to debate each example as if it's singular, without taking into account the vast amount of other examples. We're not even talking about Ahmaud Arbery any longer. You'd rather get caught up in the character assassination in every scenario, looking for the argument that fits, meanwhile completely ignoring the other 10 examples where the character assassination doesn't work. I find that highly convenient.

Please cite your "reports" defending Kyle, there are witness saying the contrary:

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2020/08/30/witnesses-detail-kenosha-shooting-seeing-kyle-rittenhouse-protest-jacob-blake-wisconsin-17-year-old/5656907002/

There are multiple first hand witnesses indicating Kyle was aggressive, and pointing his weapon at people, looking to engage into some type of interaction with protesters. At the end of the day, we'll see the full story in the court of law.

By the way, I love how you bring up trying him as a minor, or an adult. You've raised another item in which why we're pissed off, and looking to address these problems. Seeing as Kyle is white, he likely will be tried as a minor in fact.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/black-kids-more-likely-be-tried-adults-cant-be-explained/
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/racial-disparities-in-youth-commitments-and-arrests/
As of 2013, black juveniles were more than four times as likely to be committed as white juveniles, Americans Indian juveniles were more than three times as likely, and Hispanic juveniles were 61 percent more likely.
Louisville Teens Charged As Adults Are Almost Always Black
https://wfpl.org/kycir-punished-louisville-teens-charged-as-adults-are-almost-always-black/

Given the above statistics, Kyle will be tried as a minor, if he was black, I wouldn't doubt he'd be tried as an adult.

Yet another perfect example of disparity, I'm laughing you'd even bring up that idea, without knowing the rampant disparity and easy example to show yet another problem with the justice system within the US.

You know JD13, you really do encapsulate what people think about parts of the Canadian military, given your stance on these subjects.

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/canada/analysis-after-racist-incidents-spanning-decades-canadian-forces-still-cant-define-hateful-conduct-418569/
https://globalnews.ca/news/6183688/canadian-armed-forces-hate-groups-report/

Makes me truly wonder how many guys in the forces share your mentality and such sentiments.

[JD¹³]

That is completely false, the fentanyl argument was put forward by Chavin's lawyer, the second independent examiner found Floyd died as asphyxiation via a knee to his neck. You're using the defendant lawyer's argument and placing that as fact, come on now.

You're right on this. Versions I'd seen had info redacted, but this memo IS actually from the lawyer. I rescind my statements on Floyd and apologize for that false info. Here is the actual memorandum court filing.

https://i.imgur.com/l8MQiaV.jpg

I'm not here to cape for Jacob Blake, I don't know the man, I am only judging the police's actions to him. I've always said, there are far worse examples of police brutality that we're not even discussing anymore, and that's the problem with people like yourself.

How is that the problem with people like myself? Those are exactly what people SHOULD be focusing on. The Breonna Taylor incident is disgusting. But rioting, burning down buildings, looting businesses, and vigilantism have taken over. And it's being actively encouraged by big name activists. The movement for equality is very quickly losing the ear of the public as a result. Not because people don't believe in it, but because it's been hijacked.

You want to debate each example as if it's singular, without taking into account the vast amount of other examples. We're not even talking about Ahmaud Arbery any longer. You'd rather get caught up in the character assassination in every scenario, looking for the argument that fits, meanwhile completely ignoring the other 10 examples where the character assassination doesn't work. I find that highly convenient.
I'm actually saying the exact opposite, but that these latest cases that have caused all the riots have buried them. I'm sure there are countless other examples deserve highlight.

By the way, I love how you bring up trying him as a minor, or an adult. You've raised another item in which why we're pissed off, and looking to address these problems. Seeing as Kyle is white, he likely will be tried as a minor in fact.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/black-kids-more-likely-be-tried-adults-cant-be-explained/
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/racial-disparities-in-youth-commitments-and-arrests/
As of 2013, black juveniles were more than four times as likely to be committed as white juveniles, Americans Indian juveniles were more than three times as likely, and Hispanic juveniles were 61 percent more likely.
Louisville Teens Charged As Adults Are Almost Always Black
https://wfpl.org/kycir-punished-louisville-teens-charged-as-adults-are-almost-always-black/

Given the above statistics, Kyle will be tried as a minor, if he was black, I wouldn't doubt he'd be tried as an adult.

Yet another perfect example of disparity, I'm laughing you'd even bring up that idea, without knowing the rampant disparity and easy example to show yet another problem with the justice system within the US.
I brought it up because it's a relevant question to his prosecution and charges being laid before an investigation is complete. I didn't know all the stats as above, I think everyone deserves the right to a fair trial. Why aren't all the media superstars talking about that instead? They are one of the biggest parts of the problem by making statements based off short video clips with no context to very very large and influential audiences. I wasn't saying he's a minor like it's some kind of defense just because he's caucasian FailFish

EDIT - And this brings full circle my original questions about the BLM organization. What are they doing to combat all this? Why are they not pushing campaigns outlining all this information to aid in reform? If they are why are they not publishing it and showing their financials? Do they donate to The Sentencing Project? They'd get a lot more support.

The last part of your post is just a truly stupid statement I'm not even going to bother responding to.

BCEDHK - I wouldn't exactly call public court listings right-wing extremist websites. As you can see here Blake had an arrest warrant issued 7 July, 2020: https://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetail.html?caseNo=2020CF000736&countyNo=30&mode=details

[StylinRed]

Snopes looked into the Jacob Blake claims

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jacob-blake-sexual-assault-charge/

He's not been charged with raping a child, but he was charged with serious crimes, including sexual assault, against his ex girlfriend

He was also charged in the past for resisting arrest, brandishing a weapon, etc back in 2015, but those charges were dropped

[SkinnyPupp]

The idea that it's OK for the cops to shoot someone in the back 7 times because "as it turns out, he had committed crimes in the past" is pretty :fulloffuck:

[welfare]

He was shot in the back because he resisted arrest after officers attempted to use non lethal force (taser), not once but twice, to detain him for the warrants he had, then ignoring lawful commands, retrieved a knife from his vehicle, where children were present.
His prior arrests don't make it "ok". But they give context into the level of threat that he posed.
Given his actions, the fact that non lethal force was futile, the environment, and his history, i don't see what other choice they had.

[Manic!]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/louisville-to-pay-us-12m-reform-police-in-breonna-taylor-death-settlement-1.5105326

The city of Louisville will pay US$12 million to the family of Breonna Taylor and reform police practices as part of a lawsuit settlement months after Taylor's slaying by police thrust the Black woman's name to the forefront of a national reckoning on race, Mayor Greg Fischer announced Tuesday.

Looks like the protests are working.

[Bouncing Bettys]

No charges against the officers involved in Breonna Taylor's death. Things are going to blow up now.

KY Attorney General:
- Police announced their presence - they were not serving a no-knock warrant.
- Boyfriend admits to hearing the police knock on the door. A neighbour witnessed the officers announcing their presence.
Boyfriend opened the door and opened fire on the officers. The officers then fired back. Breonna was hit in the crossfire, not sleeping.

Unfortunate circumstances with tragic results. I can see why the money was awarded. I can also see why no charges were brought for her death.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1308831281694859264

[Manic!]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/23/kentucky-grand-jury-breonna-taylor-brett-hankison-charged/3467413001/

LOUISVILLE, Ky. – A former detective with the Louisville police department has been indicted on felony charges of wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door to Breonna Taylor, the 26-year-old EMT who was killed in her own home by police.

Brett Hankison, who was fired in June, is facing three felony counts and bail was set at $15,000. A warrant has been issued for his arrest.

Two other officers involved in the shooting, Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly and Detective Myles Cosgrove, were justified in their use of force, state Attorney General Daniel Cameron said at news conference. All three fired their weapons at Taylor's apartment.

A wanton endangerment charge is a class D felony and carries a penalty of one to five years in prison.

The charges read by Judge Annie O'Connell on Wednesday said that Hankison "wantonly shot a gun" into adjoining Apartment 3. The occupants of that apartment were identified by initials. None of them were BT – Breonna Taylor.

That means the grand jury did not find that Hankison wantonly fired into Taylor's apartment the night she died or that any of the officers are criminally liable in her death.

In May, Taylor's neighbor, Chesey Napper, filed a lawsuit against the LMPD officers, claiming that the officers' shots were "blindly fired" and nearly struck a man inside. Napper was pregnant and had a child in the home, according to the lawsuit.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Really wish I could triple underline words like "death" for the resident troll.

I was strictly discussing the shooting death of Breonna Taylor's. The people aren't going to be rioting over "wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door." People aren't shouting "Say Her Name: wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door!!!"

[Manic!]

Really wish I could triple underline words like "death" for the resident troll.

I was strictly discussing the shooting death of Breonna Taylor's. The people aren't going to be rioting over "wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door." People aren't shouting "Say Her Name: wanton endangerment after shooting into an apartment next door!!!"

They are protesting police misconduct. you made it sound like they all got off.

I would like to see the body cam footage.

[welfare]

No charges against the officers involved in Breonna Taylor's death. Things are going to blow up now.

KY Attorney General:
- Police announced their presence - they were not serving a no-knock warrant.
- Boyfriend admits to hearing the police knock on the door. A neighbour witnessed the officers announcing their presence.
Boyfriend opened the door and opened fire on the officers. The officers then fired back. Breonna was hit in the crossfire, not sleeping.

Unfortunate circumstances with tragic results. I can see why the money was awarded. I can also see why no charges were brought for her death.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1308831281694859264

When police announce themselves prior to a raid, they're often shot at. And these guys are typically terrible shots. Police return fire and that's all she wrote.
This is why no knock warrants save lives. The perpetrators.
She'd probably be alive right now if it were actually implemented that day.

[whitev70r]

This is the '2nd wave' equivalent. 1st is when the incident happens, 2nd is when the verdict of not guilty is given. There will be more 2nd waves ... very hard to convict , just wait for it.

[Manic!]

When police announce themselves prior to a raid, they're often shot at. And these guys are typically terrible shots. Police return fire and that's all she wrote.
This is why no knock warrants save lives. The perpetrators.
She'd probably be alive right now if it were actually implemented that day.

The also no kock on wrong houses and kill people. But I guess your OK with that.

[MG1]

First it was Aunt Jemima. Now it’s Uncle Ben. Both are being renamed.

[6793026]

What I don't understand is.. why did the bf who knew police was knocking AND then opened the door and fired a gun?

What possible wrong doing would a guy open the door, whether it was a quick OPEN + CLOSE and fire, or open.. had a chat with the cops and pulls out a gun.

Again, maybe I didn't read the entire article, but something doesn't add up.

[StylinRed]

It's America its crazy, like this case

Officer claims he followed a guy cuz he thought he was speeding (he doesn't have radar) followed him all the way to a convenience store.

Officer ran the guys plates, and the cars owner has a warrant out, officer decides to arrest the driver, and ends up beating the driver in the head several times bcuz the officer claims the driver balled his fists.

officer ends up breaking his own hand on the driver's face, and charges the driver with assaulting a police officer (for his broken hand) and resisting arrest.

Judge dismisses the resisting arrest charge, but decides the assaulting an officer charge is deserving of a trial

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/crime/2020/09/16/man-charged-assault-after-being-hit-face-ozark-cop/5816958002/

[StylinRed]

https://www.citynews1130.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/9/2020/09/27/White-Rock-Sept-27-2020-graffiti-scaled.jpg

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/09/27/white-rock-blm-graffiti-boulder/

Only just saw this story, agreed its not the best way to garner attention to your movement. As an aside, I never knew the rock was painted white, thought that was natural

[SkinnyPupp]

https://www.citynews1130.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/sites/9/2020/09/27/White-Rock-Sept-27-2020-graffiti-scaled.jpg

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/09/27/white-rock-blm-graffiti-boulder/

Only just saw this story, agreed its not the best way to garner attention to your movement. As an aside, I never knew the rock was painted white, thought that was natural
Painting a white painted rock black looks good to me. They should leave it, or sandblast the whole thing if it's an issue

[320icar]

It’s called white rock, not Caucasian rock. Tearing down and defacing statues of slave owners in America I get. This is a rock.

[Spoon]

Painting a rock of any color should be considered graffiti. :lol

Anyhow, the city should've considered embracing it and said we'll paint the rock black for X time. You fend off the vandals and make a social statement. Win for everyone. And c'mon, we're talking about a rock that gets painted on a monthly basis anyways.

[MG1]

Painting a rock of any color should be considered graffiti. :lol

Anyhow, the city should've considered embracing it and said we'll paint the rock black for X time. You fend off the vandals and make a social statement. Win for everyone. And c'mon, we're talking about a rock that gets painted on a monthly basis anyways.

Butt, but, it's a sacred first nations rock.

It was put there by the gods......... took 10,000 raven to drop it off there. All kidding aside, the boulder was deposited there from a long gone glacier. The white was from the bird shit........... I shit you not!

White Rock is named for a large white boulder on its beach near the promenade, a glacial erratic that migrated south during the last glaciation. The 486-ton granite boulder was kept white by shellfish-eating seabirds whose guano covered the rock, so much so that 19th-century sailors used it as a beacon.


Now it's going to take another 1001 years for the seagulls to shit on it to keep it right.

[SkinnyPupp]

It’s called white rock, not Caucasian rock. Tearing down and defacing statues of slave owners in America I get. This is a rock.
huh? caucasian rock?

[CivicBlues]

Almost looks like the guy tried painting it black with a sharpie and gave up part way :lol

[MG1]

huh? caucasian rock?

I think what he meant was

"White" Rock as in the colour, white, as opposed to "White" Rock as in a "white man's rock. Hence caucasian rock.


White is right and wrong is wong........... a coworker at the fish plant used to say to my buddy who's last name was Wong............. or was it Wong is wrong. BTW, the guy's last name really was White, so it really wasn't a racial comment............ or was it?

[6793026]

I do not agree on painting the rock. No difference than someone vandalizing properties. Where do we draw the line, do we paint BLM on art pieces, do we paint free HK protestors (done on the mermaid at Stanley Park), / Falungong etc ....

[mikemhg]

I think we have to be careful about bad actors within the political movement here.

How do we not know that the person who did this was a bad actor looking to make black lives matters look bad to a community of mostly white people?

Historically the rock itself has no alignment to a racist ideal, so I think it's silly to paint it black or anything else, the damn city is named White Rock :lol

I have a feeling this is simply a bad actor trying to stir up a counter reaction, as usual.

[Hehe]

Ahaha... right, when the "protest" makes BLM looks bad you believe that it's a bad actor.

And all the looting and rioting is perfectly justifiable.

Gotta love the lefties... such a double standard.

[Bouncing Bettys]

Is Jussie Smollett considered a bad actor (not referring to the silver screen)?

[mikemhg]

Ahaha... right, when the "protest" makes BLM looks bad you believe that it's a bad actor.

And all the looting and rioting is perfectly justifiable.

Gotta love the lefties... such a double standard.

The hell are you talking about?

Have you not seen the videos of looters? They're primarily white kids. Have you never heard of the concept of agent provocateur? There have been many reports of protests where masked men are running around creating chaos for the purpose of de-legitimizing a cause.

You're so damn simple minded in your arguments that you act as if there aren't reports detailing this very thing. The very practice is as old as time, the same tactics were used during the civil rights era by police and the FBI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Give me a fucking break, how is that a double standard? We don't know the person who defamed the bloody rock, no groups have taken credit for it.

If this wasn't a bad actor, then the person is a fool for doing such a thing in the name of BLM. They're directing their ire at a tourist attraction that has nothing to do with civil rights.

[mikemhg]

Is Jussie Smollett considered a bad actor (not referring to the silver screen)?

I's consider him an opportunist. Guess what? He's a fool, his actions affected no one but himself.

On the other hand, the countless white men and women who have committed crimes, or claimed crimes were committed against them, while blaming a black man for doing it are innumerable.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/african-americans-blamed-crimes-commit-experts/story?id=70906828

But yes, lets talk about Jussie Smollett, an actor that the black community have vilified and essentially cancelled for his ridiculous actions. You people are so damn predictable with these tired ass arguments.

[320icar]

directing their ire at a tourist attraction that has nothing to do with civil rights.

There’s idiots on both sides. As of right now since we know nothing, it’s a 50/50 split. Either way it was stupid and ill-thought out

[Hehe]

The hell are you talking about?

Have you not seen the videos of looters? They're primarily white kids. Have you never heard of the concept of agent provocateur? There have been many reports of protests where masked men are running around creating chaos for the purpose of de-legitimizing a cause.

You're so damn simple minded in your arguments that you act as if there aren't reports detailing this very thing. The very practice is as old as time, the same tactics were used during the civil rights era by police and the FBI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Give me a fucking break, how is that a double standard? We don't know the person who defamed the bloody rock, no groups have taken credit for it.

If this wasn't a bad actor, then the person is a fool for doing such a thing in the name of BLM. They're directing their ire at a tourist attraction that has nothing to do with civil rights.

Are you for real?

I just typed in BLM looting on youtube... these are the first 3 results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y9A-UDlrSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLicIg3Tspw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_e0qfbquxE

I can't say I don't see caucasian in there, but minorities definitely make up the majority.

The problem is that you lefties are nothing but opportunists. No one is willing to take any responsibility whatsoever.

When looting happened, and the general consensus is kinda letting such action slide (as in acceptable), you come out saying all the lootings are justifiable and a way to make your voice heard.

Now someone paints the fucking White Rock's rock, and the majority of posts seem to be condemning the action, the best thing you can come up with is they are "bad actors" and nothing to do with BLM?!?

You can't have the cake and eat it too. If you are going to justify the lootings and riotings, you'd have to take the White Rock graffiti too.

Oh... I'm sorry... but it makes the BLM looks bad... it doesn't fit the BLM's narrative... so it definitely got nothing to do with BLM.

Got it... :thumbsup:

[Manic!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaA6OlgvfvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqySpvKC5DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xCnsiJd2bQ

[CivicBlues]

Are you for real?

I just typed in BLM looting on youtube... these are the first 3 results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y9A-UDlrSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLicIg3Tspw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_e0qfbquxE

I can't say I don't see caucasian in there, but minorities definitely make up the majority.

The problem is that you lefties are nothing but opportunists. No one is willing to take any responsibility whatsoever.

When looting happened, and the general consensus is kinda letting such action slide (as in acceptable), you come out saying all the lootings are justifiable and a way to make your voice heard.

Now someone paints the fucking White Rock's rock, and the majority of posts seem to be condemning the action, the best thing you can come up with is they are "bad actors" and nothing to do with BLM?!?

You can't have the cake and eat it too. If you are going to justify the lootings and riotings, you'd have to take the White Rock graffiti too.

Oh... I'm sorry... but it makes the BLM looks bad... it doesn't fit the BLM's narrative... so it definitely got nothing to do with BLM.

Got it... :thumbsup:

Christ stop calling everyone you disagree with a "lefty" it makes you seem like a tool.

No, the black teenager from the ghetto is not a "lefty" because he joined a riot. He probably doesn't even know what the political spectrum is

[mikemhg]

Christ stop calling everyone you disagree with a "lefty" it makes you seem like a tool.

No, the black teenager from the ghetto is not a "lefty" because he joined a riot. He probably doesn't even know what the political spectrum is

That's the concept he's not getting.

I've broken it down for him numerous times here.

Fuck, remember the riots and looting during the 2011 Stanley Cup finals in Vancouver.

Some idiot kids broke some stuff, including the infamous Asian kid with the hockey stick, so I guess I'll use his same monolithic mentality and say Asian kids are violent opportunists, and that the Canucks and NHL should be blamed for inciting a riot in Vancouver. See how stupid that sounds?

This guy man :lol

[CivicBlues]

Look at this douchenozzle waiting to catch something with his ...wait for it...LEFT HAND!
https://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2137847.1450747397!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/canucks-riot.jpg

Damn lefties ruining Vancouver again :lol

[Xu.Vi]

Look at this douchenozzle waiting to catch something with his ...wait for it...LEFT HAND!
https://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2137847.1450747397!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/canucks-riot.jpg

Damn lefties ruining Vancouver again :lol

Lol. This photo makes my heart skip a beat every single time I come across it because I think its me. I looked nearly identical to this guy during that time and have had more than 3 friends ask me.

[welfare]

So we're still comparing a national months long rolling riot that's left dozens dead and cost over a billion in damages to a sports riot that lasted a few hours and was contained to a single city?
Alrighty then :lol

[CivicBlues]

So we're still comparing a national months long rolling riot that's left dozens dead and cost over a billion in damages to a sports riot that lasted a few hours and was contained to a single city?
Alrighty then :lol

nope

[Manic!]

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/519862-grand-jury-indicts-st-louis-couple-who-pointed-guns-at-protesters

A grand jury in St. Louis on Tuesday indicted Mark and Patricia McCloskey on counts of exhibiting a weapon and tampering with evidence four months after footage circulated showing the couple pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home.

The couple's attorney, Joel Schwartz, said the grand jury reached the decision after the McCloskeys appeared before a judge earlier in the day, NBC affiliate KSDK reported.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/410/cpsprodpb/13B30/production/_114088608_fb0cd11e-d463-45dc-becf-34aa6199d45f.jpg

These 2 idiots spoke at the RNC.

[welfare]

More mostly peaceful protests erupting in Philly

https://youtu.be/ZMcnLohqLDg

[SkinnyPupp]

More mostly peaceful protests erupting in Philly

https://youtu.be/ZMcnLohqLDg
I don't even want to know the dark dredges of the internet you stalk to regularly come across these youtube channels WutFace

[welfare]

Just searched 'Philadelphia riots' with filter set to today :thumbsup:

[SkinnyPupp]

Just searched 'Philadelphia riots' with filter set to today :thumbsup:
Good to know how much consideration you put into the sources you use. I imagine you have eaten more than a few onions over the years KEKW

[welfare]

Good to know how much consideration you put into the sources you use. I imagine you have eaten more than a few onions over the years KEKW

:lol from the guy who posts his "news" straight from Twitter feeds

[SkinnyPupp]

:lol from the guy who posts his "news" straight from Twitter feeds
Yes I tweet credentialed journalists of reliable news channels/papers/websites, and scientists that participate in studies. I ignore shitposters and obvious Russian troll and other pro-Trump troll youtube and twitter channels

How DARE I?

[Bouncing Bettys]

More mostly peaceful protests erupting in Philly
It's just an idea you know. Odd how msm coverage of BLM died down just as the "peaceful protests" started negatively affecting polls.

Why didn't the cops just shoot Walter Wallace in the leg like Biden said?
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1321080922133942286
Would a social worker have stepped in as Wallace charged at him with a knife?

[welfare]

Yes I tweet credentialed journalists of reliable news channels/papers/websites, and scientists that participate in studies. I ignore shitposters and obvious Russian troll and other pro-Trump troll youtube and twitter channels

How DARE I?

Don't believe your lyin eyes

[MG1]

Mario Kart.

[StylinRed]

This is what sparked the protests on philly currently

https://youtu.be/be1WmNpNc_w

[welfare]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/75271453/protests.jpg

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/75271453/protests.jpg
Proud Boys up to no good.

[ImportPsycho]

This is what sparked the protests on philly currently

https://youtu.be/be1WmNpNc_w

"you had to give him that many shots?"

You had to charge at, police officer pointing gun at you, with a knife?

what did he expected to happen?
when will people learn....

[welfare]

Proud Boys up to no good.

Started makin' trouble in my neighborhood.

[Manic!]

This is the current leader of the proud boys. look at his race.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjdWvGaWkAAF8ka?format=jpg&name=large

He now has a tan and calls himself Enrique Tarrio and claims he is afro cuban.

[mikemhg]

Just a bump as more news has come out for one of the worst cases of this crap this year, Ahmaud Arbery.

Some folks in this thread had issues with people saying "systemic", that it's not a thing, etc.

If some of you recall this shooting, he was a black man in Georgia simply going for jog in the daytime, one of the shooters was Gregory McMichael, who previously worked as a GCPD officer from 1982 to 1989, and as an investigator for the Brunswick Judicial Circuit District Attorney's Office from 1995 to his retirement in May 2019.

The DA assigned to the case attempted to cover the shooting up by not arresting the father and son involved in this shooting, now reports are coming up that the father attempted to utilize his ties to the police in order to influence the case even further.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526016-suspect-in-ahmaud-arbery-case-called-his-former-boss-at-time-of-killing

As well, texts have now came out of the ex-officer's son, discussing shooting a coon:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/racial-texts-social-media-posts-read-hearing-suspects/story?id=74168492

"When asked by Cobb County Deputy Chief Assistant District Attorney Jesse Evans about a text exchange between the two in which they allegedly discussed shooting a black person with gold teeth,"

In a previous bond hearing for Bryan, Evans said Bryan repeatedly used the n-word in texts. Bryan took cellphone video of the shooting and told authorities he heard Travis McMichael say a racial slur when he shot Arbery three times.

I feel like I'm repeating myself when saying systemic, but I truly don't understand how some folks don't see this clear connection between these people with racist ideals, and their connection to and within law enforcement.

You'll notice this is a case that the "All lives matter" folks prefer to avoid, because it doesn't fit into their narrative like George Floyd, a more flawed individual easier to character assassinate in a method to otherwise undermine this subject.

[Manic!]

Derek Chauvin found guilty!!!!!! All counts.

[pastarocket]

Justice for George Floyd and his family!!!

Chauvin faces up to 40 years in prison for second degree murder,

up to 25 years for third degree murder, and up to 10 years for second degree manslaughter.

[sonick]

FUCK YES.

[BlackV62K2]

How long does he survive in prison?

[pastarocket]

How long does he survive in prison?

Chauvin is gonna be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life, especially in prison.

Shanks! LUL

He will be sentenced in court in 8 weeks:

up to 40 years in prison for second degree murder
up to 25 years for third degree murder
up to 10 years for second degree manslaughter

[hud 91gt]

Just saw this. Haven’t been following, but thanks fucking god. How long will the sentence be? Who knows but at least he’s found guilty! One step at a time.

[westopher]

How long does he survive in prison?

Hopefully long enough he gets his neck kneeled on at least a few times.

[Presto]

Here comes the appeal(s)

[Traum]

I am thankful not just for the Floyd family, but also for the US. Can you imagine the uproar that we would have seen across the whole US if Chauvin got off on the charges?

[bcedhk]

awaiting CiC's response.

[SkinnyPupp]

Only took the jury 10 hours to deliberate

OK good. Now they can start to work on police reform.

[SkinnyPupp]

Here comes the appeal(s)
Good luck appealing all three convictions

[JDMDreams]

I usually don't follow these kinda things but good that there's justice, hope there isn't some bs appeals

[Obsideon]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/msYxjL06WN9pYDp_wfnN6l4B1T08AbjzAlFJFVX2rU9j8mMYcT Bfz7TNpgA708tflozLyg1IroYw4bMZqRU_c7VfuUnCoJ3ztH_5 IdKTfKnTpKt6XhebMIdsHSw

[lowside67]

Good luck appealing all three convictions
The trial judge literally went straight to the media and said "the defendant has a good appeal here" ... there is a LONG road to be run in front of this.

-Mark

[mikemhg]

Appeals will happen, and lets see what with judge sentences him with, the system can still protect this man.

We'll see. But good on the jury though.

In other news, the AG just opened a civil case to investigate the Minneapolis police department for their recent abuses over the last number of years here.

[Manic!]

Derek Chauvin sentenced to 22.5 years. Image how many times this happened and no one was there to film it.

[StylinRed]

Rittenhouse was cleared, as expected given the circumstances

If you followed the case at all, it's not how it was portrayed at all

If you watch from the 3min Mark of this Dore clip, it offers some interesting points

https://youtu.be/9-SKkvH_AUc?t=3m00s