[Alpine]

Does everyone remember the Myers slander before OEL came on board? That's the effect that OEL has had on Myers. I'm all for trading Myers given his age & salary but the hard part will be finding another RHD to slot in. I am still hoping Poolman can take that spot and play the Luke Schenn role for OEL. Just stay at home and defend, and let OEL take on a more offensive role.

[whitev70r]

So what is the consensus on the OEL trade ? Was it good for the Canucks ... or a wash? Or, can't tell yet as OEL's contract lasts until kingdom come.

[whitev70r]

Stars announce another recycle retread coach ... DeBoer .. why, why?

[murd0c]

So what is the consensus on the OEL trade ? Was it good for the Canucks ... or a wash? Or, can't tell yet as OEL's contract lasts until kingdom come.

Coyotes easily won that trade, they just had 1 year of the plug players and received our first round pick which had an incredible season last year. Now we have OEL with a shitty contact and Garland which isn't bad but he's not worth the first round pick we gave up for him.

[BlackV62K2]

No GM was stupid enough to take on OEL's contract except DimJim. He's not a terrible D men but that contract is a killer

[Alpine]

So what is the consensus on the OEL trade ? Was it good for the Canucks ... or a wash? Or, can't tell yet as OEL's contract lasts until kingdom come.

I'm probably in the minority but I'm going to give it one more year before I write off the OEL + Garland trade.

Garland admitted that he never felt comfortable this past year in his exit interview so I am hoping that improves this year. I believe he's a 60pt guy and that's a pretty good deal for his contract.

I want to see OEL with a luke schenn like stay at home D pair to really see what OEL brings to the table. 13M for your second D pair is absurd, but 8-9M is right in line with where a second D pair should be.

[68style]

If they had accepted not wining last season…. Which happened anyway… we would be rid of all those salaries and in a great spot to build up with some signings and renewal for Miller etc… I love what Garland brings and I like OEL too but his cap hit and bulletproof NMC are an absolute albatross.

[Alpine]

If they had accepted not wining last season…. Which happened anyway… we would be rid of all those salaries and in a great spot to build up with some signings and renewal for Miller etc… I love what Garland brings and I like OEL too but his cap hit and bulletproof NMC are an absolute albatross.

Well, we have Garland and OEL now so what's done by dimjim is done.
How much cap space would you throw at your 2nd line D pair?

[68style]

I think 2nd pairing it's fair to say should be a combined $8M of cap space at most... ideally you want to be hitting a Cup run when your 1st pair is big ticket or 1 big ticket offensive guy and an anchor for him, 2nd pair is recently graduated from the minors/drafting/development with offensive capability or a guy who's still on ELC and 3rd pair is shutdown/heavy.

OEL is a competent 2nd pairing guy, but he's $8.5M all by himself, which is totally unfathomable with a $83.5M cap. A single 2nd pair Dman can't be taking up 10% of your salary... but here we are :(

Additionally damaging in my mind, OEL is using up the spot Rathbone should be in now... he's ruining Rathbone's development simply by existing on our team. Rathbone is a perfect 2nd pairing guy for us right now, but needs a heavier body to play alongside him.

[highfive]

^uhh...no OEL is not ruining Rathbone's development. Rathbone needs to make it hard for coaches and management to put him ahead of OEL on the depth chart.

[Alpine]

I think 2nd pairing it's fair to say should be a combined $8M of cap space at most... ideally you want to be hitting a Cup run when your 1st pair is big ticket or 1 big ticket offensive guy and an anchor for him, 2nd pair is recently graduated from the minors/drafting/development with offensive capability or a guy who's still on ELC and 3rd pair is shutdown/heavy.

OEL is a competent 2nd pairing guy, but he's $8.5M all by himself, which is totally unfathomable with a $83.5M cap. A single 2nd pair Dman can't be taking up 10% of your salary... but here we are :(

Additionally damaging in my mind, OEL is using up the spot Rathbone should be in now... he's ruining Rathbone's development simply by existing on our team. Rathbone is a perfect 2nd pairing guy for us right now, but needs a heavier body to play alongside him.

So essentially we have ~$1M to find OEL a partner for the 2nd D, which is basically what I have been suggesting - a luke schenn like stay at home D to let OEL roam.
If we can find the right fit then OEL + X for $9.5M is as good as 2x $4.5M or 2x $5M guys...

[68style]

^uhh...no OEL is not ruining Rathbone's development. Rathbone needs to make it hard for coaches and management to put him ahead of OEL on the depth chart.

If only it worked like that, no way they’re putting OEL on third pairing and him and Rathbone are not a good fit… Hughes and Rath together also not a good fit… Rath deserves to be on 2nd pair already based on last season in Abby but he’s boxed out by Canucks not being able to bury OEL on a 3rd pairing

[pastarocket]

Kenan Thompson roasts the Leafs at the NHL awards show after Matthews win the Hart Trophy and Ted Lindsay awards. LUL

If I remember correctly, Thompson had an acting role in a Mighty Ducks movie.


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[whitev70r]

Panthers hiring Paul Maurice as HC.

Andrew Burnette went 58-18-6 as Interim after Quennville was fired and that still wasn't good enough to earn the job of HC ... ??!!

[murd0c]

I heard its because how bad he was out coached in the playoffs when they played TB... I think that's total BS and Burnette got the short end of the stick. He deserved to get the Interim tag taken off but I also get the Panthers have a small window and they do need a coach with more experience.

[whitev70r]

I agree ... just like players, it takes the experiences of losses in the playoffs to learn how to win. I mean look at Cooper of TB ... his President trophy team was ousted in round 1 a year after going to the finals. Then they won 2 in a row. At least Panthers lasted into 2nd round with Burnette's 1st year. Bad management not willing to stick with a growing coach with upside. Someone should scoop Burnette up, especially now because he will coach with a chip on his shoulder.

[68style]

They got way bigger problems than a coach if those stripper drinking party rumours were true

[murd0c]

The Canucks should hire Burnette as the assistant they are looking for, I would be more then happy with that.

[68style]

Would much prefer that over Mike Yeo, who I am surprised hasn't been #metoo'd in any abuse scandals

[68style]

Kuemper sucks, achilles heel of this team

[SkinnyPupp]

Kuemper sucks, achilles heel of this team
Only worse goalie in the playoffs was Mike Smith (and Markky in one series).. It would be the Coilers instead of the Avs if Smith was any good

[SkinnyPupp]

Vasilevskiy single handedly winning this OT

[pastarocket]

Kadri scores! OT winner!!


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[Eatman]

Avs!!

[SkinnyPupp]

KADRI SCORES!!!!!!!! AVS WIN IT! THERE IS JUSTICE IN HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RiceIntegraRS]

dam, goal was almost as anticlimatic as Patrick Kanes Stanley Cup Over time goal

[pastarocket]

The Avs played better in overtime. I am cheering for Colorado to beat Tampa.

This Finals game had so many shots off a post or crossbar hahaha.


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[whitev70r]

I'm for anyone but Tampa ... shocked that I'll even take Kahdri, the scoundrel, scoring the winning OT goal !

[snowball]

Avs winning in game 5 against the defending champions on home ice would be the best thing to happen to the NHL in recent history.

[AzNightmare]

Looks like no 3-peat.
Avs aren't losing 3 in a row.

[whitev70r]

Cooper suggesting that there were too many men on the ice for the OT winner from Kadri


https://www.tsn.ca/game-4-stanley-cup-final-winning-goal-nazem-kadri-1.1816526 (https://www.tsn.ca/game-4-stanley-cup-final-winning-goal-nazem-kadri-1.1816526)

Adding to the 'conspiracy' .. on the initial official scoresheet, there were 6 forwards from Colorado :lol:

[68style]

Could have been blown down, but Cooper is being such a drama queen... like TB has never had any calls go their way... Kadri jumped off the bench when MacKinnon was about 4 feet away on the opposite end... he's up there talking like the series is over and shit. Guess what bro, your D-man got worked to the outside even with positioning and Vassy let it slip under his arm. They also were getting their shit kicked in by Colorado the whole OT before that.

Assistant coach is saying that Friday is going to be "ugly" like it's a threat?

TB can fuck off, hope Colorado wraps it up.

[Kilinim]

I'm just wondering why TB didn't challenge?

[68style]

Discretionary stoppages (ie: for penalty calls) are not subject to Coach’s Challenge except for offside… but even those can only be challenged if a goal results before the puck exits the zone.

[pastarocket]

Could have been blown down, but Cooper is being such a drama queen... like TB has never had any calls go their way... Kadri jumped off the bench when MacKinnon was about 4 feet away on the opposite end... he's up there talking like the series is over and shit. Guess what bro, your D-man got worked to the outside even with positioning and Vassy let it slip under his arm. They also were getting their shit kicked in by Colorado the whole OT before that.

Assistant coach is saying that Friday is going to be "ugly" like it's a threat?

TB can fuck off, hope Colorado wraps it up.

I hope that Colorado hoists the Stanley Cup on Friday night.

-hope that the Avs bury the Bolts with a barrage of goals.

Stamkos mentioned in the game 4 post game interview that there is "pressure" on the home team to win an elimination game. -saying that it's not easy to do. -clever of Stamkos to use the media to make those remarks to move the pressure on to the Avs.

Guess what Stammer, all the pressure is on the Lightning to stay alive in an elimination game!

All those sports cliches of "backs against the wall, win one game at a time" may not matter on Friday night if the Avs win game 5 hhahaa.

Let’s not forget that Tampa put Kucherov
On LTIR in 2021 so that they can use the 9.5 million in cap space to re-sign other players and make trades before the deadline.

-really suspicious timing of Kucherov doing his rehab during the regular season last season but not during the playoffs.

Cooper and the team management are clowns I tell you. Bitching and whining about referee non calls when that franchise uses LTIR to build their team haha.

Of course, they acquire a dirty player like Corey Perry too. LUL

[winson604]

I hope that Colorado hoists the Stanley Cup on Friday night.

-hope that the Avs bury the Bolts with a barrage of goals.

Stamkos mentioned in the game 4 post game interview that there is "pressure" on the home team to win an elimination game. -saying that it's not easy to do. -clever of Stamkos to use the media to make those remarks to move the pressure on to the Avs.

Guess what Stammer, all the pressure is on the Lightning to stay alive in an elimination game!

All those sports cliches of "backs against the wall, win one game at a time" may not matter on Friday night if the Avs win game 5 hhahaa.

Let’s not forget that Tampa put Kucherov
On LTIR in 2021 so that they can use the 9.5 million in cap space to re-sign other players and make trades before the deadline.

-really suspicious timing of Kucherov doing his rehab during the regular season last season but not during the playoffs.

Cooper and the team management are clowns I tell you. Bitching and whining about referee non calls when that franchise uses LTIR to build their team haha.

Of course, they acquire a dirty player like Corey Perry too. LUL

After losing to Tampa in the finals twice playing for Dallas and Montreal and now back un the finals for a 3rd year in a row now with Tampa I want to see them lose just cause it's comical. Not quite as funny as Hossa but he did eventually win it lol.

[AzNightmare]

It's crazy to think how guys like Lundqvist and Luongo never won a cup, Thornton and Price will probably never win one, but you have someone like Pat Maroon who's trying to go for his 4th in a row... lol.

[murd0c]

So Dale Tallon eh :badpokerface:

[winson604]

It's crazy to think how guys like Lundqvist and Luongo never won a cup, Thornton and Price will probably never win one, but you have someone like Pat Maroon who's trying to go for his 4th in a row... lol.

Speaking of so the Sedins and Luongo are all 1st year eligible this year for the Hall of Fame. Vancouver bias aside who thinks any of them will get in on their 1st year or even at all?

[Kilinim]

So Dale Tallon eh :badpokerface:

Not overly enthusiastic about this selection...

[whitev70r]

Why? Talk about too many execs ...

[AzNightmare]

I don't know, or maybe forgot about the story around Tallon.
But what's this being cleared of any wrongdoing he was accused for in his past?

[Alpine]

Bringing in the old boys club?

[SkinnyPupp]

Fuck this is a great game

[spoon.ek9]

tampa still kickin' :peek:

[SkinnyPupp]

Goaltending difference won them a game (and bad penalties by Avs)

[Hondaracer]

Let’s gooooooo

[Kilinim]

Why? Talk about too many execs ...

He was using racial slurs during the bubble in Edmonton. Cleared of wrong doing by investigation, but of course NHL protects it's own.

[whitev70r]

Please let it end tonght!

[pastarocket]

Congrats to the Avs! Stanley Cup Champions!


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[SkinnyPupp]

Skipped the game for the AEW PPV but I'm glad the right team won! Tampon Bay can now lose all their free agents and go to the basement for a while. Great coach and goalie though

[EvoFire]

In b4 thread lock. New thread incoming

[BlackV62K2]

Canucks so good. /End Thread