[murd0c]

Well boys it's that time of the year for another new hockey season. Thankfully and hopefully this is going to be the first normal season in the past two years. I straight up miss going to games!!!

This off season is straight up crazy and its going to be quick..

- the first buy out window opens 48 hours after the last game (12:00am this sat morning) Who are the Canucks going to buy out??

- some trades might happen real quick since they are frozen a week before the kraken and pick their team. Are the Canucks going to make moves? Is Schmidt going to be gone?

- who are we going lose? I want Seattle to pick meyers but I heard he might be protected..

- then draft time, are we going to trade up, make a pick

- and then free agency, how many over priced contracts is Benning going to sign this year..

- second buy out window is right after arbitration, Im not worried about the Canucks for that this year tho and i'm not even sure how the second window works to be honest.

This all happens in the next 2-3 weeks and I'm straight up pumped, we only have a 2 months break this year so this summer with out hockey is going to go by real quick!!

[SkinnyPupp]

As a long time Kraken True Fan, I hope we win the cup this year

[vash13]

Go Canucks Go. Let's hope we aren't bottom feeders this year.

[MG1]

IN LIKE A FILTHY SHIRT!

[HonestTea]

FIRST PAGE!

[spoon.ek9]

hoping for a bounce back season this year! go canucks!

best youtube comment from last year i heard:

"the only offensive moves Jake made this year were against women" :joy:

[bobbinka]

maybe Seattle can take Benning

[Kilinim]

In

[68style]

Yah can you expose your GM in the expansion draft?

How about your team's owner???

[pastarocket]

First page! Go Canucks go!

Can some Sedinery fix Dim Jim’s GM brain?

LUL


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[Tim Budong]

FIRST

Cap outlook today after TB wins heading into 2021/22

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721315007828197396/862541869102399508/Screenshot_2021-07-08_at_11.43.25_AM.png

TB is 3.5m OVER cap... and Detroit is 26 below cap floor

[Blah_Teggie]

First page!

[trip]

IN

[keifun]

first page. Oh yeah!

Anyone planning on going down to Seattle to catch a game once the border opens up?

[punkwax]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/1fm96ddXPckJ8IV3nv/giphy.gif

[Teriyaki]

first page. Oh yeah!

Anyone planning on going down to Seattle to catch a game once the border opens up?

Thats surely reason enough to make it cross the border. When does the schedule come out?

[mb_]

FIRST PAGE INNNNN

[BlackV62K2]

Can't wait for all the stupid trades and dumb contracts DimJim will sign. True fan PogChamp

[hotjoint]

FIRST!

[Eatman]

go canucks go!

[EmperorIS]

Canucks so good

[RiceIntegraRS]

i guess ill get in on the first page

[68style]

FIRST

Cap outlook today after TB wins heading into 2021/22

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721315007828197396/862541869102399508/Screenshot_2021-07-08_at_11.43.25_AM.png

TB is 3.5m OVER cap... and Detroit is 26 below cap floor

That's with only 33/50 contracts signed too... they're in deep deep shit but who cares, 2 cups to show for it!

No surprise that 3 of the last 4 teams remaining in this year's playoffs are in the top 5 cap spenders.

[Alpine]

Tampa could win again next year too, as long as their core stays together.

[JesseBlue]

First pager too. Go Canucks Go. We've been a bottom dweller for far too long.

[rb]

have no reason to believe that next season is going to be better than this season.

Same cast of characters from top to bottom. I look forward to the McDonald's app game day promos again though

[Tim Budong]

Tampa could win again next year too, as long as their core stays together.

11 guys on this cup team needs a contract

Tyler Johnson's contract is difficult ot move unless TB buys him out

Brayden Point has one more year left

Ondrej Palat could get moved

but the scariest thing about this TB team that just won the cup?

with the exception of McElhinney, the backup goalie, the oldest guy is Ryan McDonagh... team is young, lots of skill, lots of free agents.

no way this TB team looks remotely the same. That core has to drop a few guys

[68style]

have no reason to believe that next season is going to be better than this season.

Same cast of characters from top to bottom. I look forward to the McDonald's app game day promos again though

Canucks will do much better because there's way weaker teams to play when the league is mixed as usual.

[SkinnyPupp]

TB GM even said they all knew this was their last chance as a team and that was part of what motivated them. They were a great team for like 4-5 years and won a cup twice in a row. Not very often we see a team this good for this long. Of course cheating the salary cap helps a LOT. I'm sure they'll get a fine for that.

[Expresso]

Tampa could win again next year too, as long as their core stays together.

That would require them to play an actual 82 game schedule. lol


TB GM even said they all knew this was their last chance as a team and that was part of what motivated them. They were a great team for like 4-5 years and won a cup twice in a row. Not very often we see a team this good for this long. Of course cheating the salary cap helps a LOT. I'm sure they'll get a fine for that.

My guess is they won't because it's not the Vancouver Canucks.

[Expresso]

If you guys haven't seen the Kuch post game, it's hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBsOuA5qgFg

[Infiniti]

Canucks will do much better because there's way weaker teams to play when the league is mixed as usual.

They'll be bubble. But, it isn't gonna be some cake walk.

[BlackV62K2]

https://i.imgflip.com/5fuzpa.jpg

Hilarious interview

[EvoFire]

Damnit missed 1st page.

Canucks weren't really a bottom feeder this year imo, but at the same time I don't expect anything outstanding from them either. Too many bad contracts, dumb trades/signings.

[whitev70r]

Tampa could win again next year too, as long as their core stays together.

How will they hide their salary in the upcoming season?

[Hondaracer]

I can just picture murdoc refreshing the RS home page as the clock counts down and TB jumps off the bench lol

[AzNightmare]

sht... I'm too slow.

[AzNightmare]

TB GM even said they all knew this was their last chance as a team and that was part of what motivated them. They were a great team for like 4-5 years and won a cup twice in a row. Not very often we see a team this good for this long. Of course cheating the salary cap helps a LOT. I'm sure they'll get a fine for that.

Will they actually get a fine?
I thought it was well within rules, but they just abused the loophole to the max.

I'm not fully aware of the situation, but when I was skimming through twitter yesterday, some comments were saying there was some kind of vote to have salary cap in the playoffs and TBL was one of the teams that voted for it, but they lost the vote, and then ironically ended up abusing it?

Anyone have info about that?

[murd0c]

I can just picture murdoc refreshing the RS home page as the clock counts down and TB jumps off the bench lol

Clock hits zero and the new thread is made... I even told the GF I will watch the 3rd at home so tradition isn't broken :lawl:

[punkwax]

^ I’m sure she understood.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/9JwWxcR0SUSC195IWL/200.gif

[Hondaracer]

They are not going to get a fine. They played within the rules as they are written.

The NHL will just adjust those rules going forward but there’s not gonna be any disciplinary action. They basically said as much on the broadcast last night

[whitev70r]

They are not going to get a fine. They played within the rules as they are written.

The NHL will just adjust those rules going forward but there’s not gonna be any disciplinary action. They basically said as much on the broadcast last night

Buttman can do anything, they can make up retroactive rules if they don't like the team ... eg. Luongo salary recapture rule. Gillis played within the rules and then look what happened!

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah I was just being sarcastic, any Canucks fan knows that TB won't be fined with a retroactive rule.

Canucks are well coached and most of the team tries very hard. That's something I appreciate about the team that will make me give them a chance over and over. There's always a chance for a cinderella run for them, and those are the most exciting. They might get destroyed in the end, but you never know.

[Hondaracer]

Imo the Canucks have more long term upside than the Habs. These flash in the pan type runs are very dangerous because you think you’ve got the team to go deep again but with Price getting older, Weber wearing the C, and players like Ghallager etc. On the downside of their career it’s going to be interesting to watch

[Expresso]

Imo the Canucks have more long term upside than the Habs. These flash in the pan type runs are very dangerous because you think you’ve got the team to go deep again but with Price getting older, Weber wearing the C, and players like Ghallager etc. On the downside of their career it’s going to be interesting to watch

That was Benning's thought process last year hahaha.

[AzNightmare]

Imo the Canucks have more long term upside than the Habs. These flash in the pan type runs are very dangerous because you think you’ve got the team to go deep again but with Price getting older, Weber wearing the C, and players like Ghallager etc. On the downside of their career it’s going to be interesting to watch

loooool
Sounds familiar...

[Alpine]

11 guys on this cup team needs a contract

Tyler Johnson's contract is difficult ot move unless TB buys him out

Brayden Point has one more year left

Ondrej Palat could get moved

but the scariest thing about this TB team that just won the cup?

with the exception of McElhinney, the backup goalie, the oldest guy is Ryan McDonagh... team is young, lots of skill, lots of free agents.

no way this TB team looks remotely the same. That core has to drop a few guys

TB is heads and shoulders above the other teams. If kuch/point/hedman/vasil remain healthy, they can afford to lose a few from Palat/Gourde/TJ/Stamkos/Killorn/McDonagh and still remain extremely competitive.

[SkinnyPupp]

Imo the Canucks have more long term upside than the Habs. These flash in the pan type runs are very dangerous because you think you’ve got the team to go deep again but with Price getting older, Weber wearing the C, and players like Ghallager etc. On the downside of their career it’s going to be interesting to watch
Montreal may have the best draft capital in the league going forward though. Good chance to rebuild while keeping strong leadership in place

They have two 2nd round picks, three 3rd round, three 4th round, three 5th round, and an extra 7th

[Tim Budong]

TB is heads and shoulders above the other teams. If kuch/point/hedman/vasil remain healthy, they can afford to lose a few from Palat/Gourde/TJ/Stamkos/Killorn/McDonagh and still remain extremely competitive.

Oh for sure, but there's a lot of money tied up and that entire team is so young, everyone will want a raise. Good thing is they can move a guy like Palat etc..


Montreal may have the best draft capital in the league going forward though. Good chance to rebuild while keeping strong leadership in place

They have two 2nd round picks, three 3rd round, three 4th round, three 5th round, and an extra 7th

sure, 11 picks in upcoming draft.. but drafting is a crapshoot.

[SkinnyPupp]

Oh for sure, but there's a lot of money tied up and that entire team is so young, everyone will want a raise. Good thing is they can move a guy like Palat etc..




sure, 11 picks in upcoming draft.. but drafting is a crapshoot.
Draft capital can also be converted to trade capital

They are in a very good spot considering they were in the finals. If the GM is smart he can improve the team in any way they need

[Durrann]

Plan the parade!

[BlackV62K2]

Looks like the Canucks will see Duncan Keith more now

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/oilers-acquire-keith-blackhawks-jones-third-round-pick/

[68style]

How stupid can the Oilers keep being?

[punkwax]

Jim ain’t so dim now is he!?

Ok maybe he is LUL

Glad the Canucks dodged that bullet I almost thought about it for a second before my brain activated with a hard nope giving that potential thought absolutely zero chance to survive.

[rb]

Inb4 Benning pulls off a trade for OEL to top Holland

[mb_]

That's a good trade... about 8 years ago LOL

[whitev70r]

Reports say Keith wanted to be closer to his son. But Oilers got fleeced ... should have made Chicago eat some of the salary.

[68style]

They did, he’s only owed 3.6 total

But that cap hit for 2 years is crazy… that alone makes the deal unworkable for me in a flat cap era… hands are tied now

[Blah_Teggie]

Why is it a bad trade? You guys might not realize this, but the Oilers are in a win-now mode with 97 and 29 in the prime of their careers. The Oilers basically got swept out of the playoffs in round 1 2 years in a row. They've gone 1-7 in the past 2 playoffs. Something has to change. What better way than to bring in a guy who's won 3 Stanley Cups, 2 Olympic Gold Medals, 2 Norris Trophies and so on. That experience and leadership is PRICELESS! Keith has been thru the wars, he's been thru all the battles. They gave up peanuts to get him. The actual money isn't much. It's only the cap hit. But it's only for 2 years. Most importantly, Keith wants to go to Edmonton. Unlike most guys. He wants to be there. This trade IMO is a win for the Oilers.

[whitev70r]

^ I thought it was bad because of the salary but someone above stated that he is only owed $3.6M actual money but does take the full cap hit. So that's a plus and minus.

The other reason is because he has seriously declined in terms of performance but if you can get 2 decent years out of him and the locker room presence ... we'll see. He just doesn't have to be a liability, not like they need Keith to get a 50 pt season.

[68style]

^^ I see someone read the inflated Athletic article of Keith’s talents and abilities hehe

I think the things being talked about might be worth the salary price, but the cap hit is debilitating we only had “2 more seasons” of Loui Eriksson’s $6 mill cap hit to worry about too and it pretty much put this franchise in stasis waiting for it to end…

Giving up nearly 7% of your cap isn’t giving up peanuts, especially when you don’t have a legitimate goaltender. Things needed to change but more in the way Montreal brought in guys like Perry… aging dudes on 1 year contracts who know how to win… not a guy who just wants to be close to his kid. They need a Seth Jones type D to push them over the top and a legit goaltender… and better depth scoring… I’d say the Oilers are actually pretty far away from a Cup team to be honest. I know Nurse was a Norris candidate this year but his numbers are very inflated playing with McDavid on the ice. He’s got rocks in his head half the time, makes so many bonehead moves and passes.

High chance this blows up in Edmonton’s face, 37 and 38 are like Chelios ages to be playing D in the NHL no matter how well you skate…

[RiceIntegraRS]

Adding Keith to your existing defence will improve it. But not at the expense of losing Barrie or Larsson. Unless by some miracle they sign both guys, their defence had gotten worse. Yes, they didnt give up much to get him but they gave up cap space which is super important. I really hate when people start listing off accomplishments a player has had years and years ago in a league where its all about what you can do now. Every team brings in former Stanley cup winners to their roster but how often does it work out? If your all about past cup wins, maybe the Oilers should trade for Matt Murray. 100% sure the Senators will take anything for him. They would probably throw in a pick for u to take him or salary retained which is what the Oilers should of made chicago do.

Arent Holtby and Beagle past cup champions? How valuable are they do our team? We are trying to get rid of theses guys.

[Expresso]

He might do ok in a more sheltered 2nd/3rd pairing. He doesn't need to be THE guy anymore. The cap hit is bad though.

[whitev70r]

Suggestion for Ken Holland, Keith has an 'injury' ... put him on a LTIR for 3/4 of the season. Last 15 games or so, get him ready for the playoffs, which is why you got him. And save 3/4 of his $5M salary cap ... I know, not very original, been used before but it works.

[Expresso]

Suggestion for Ken Holland, Keith has an 'injury' ... put him on a LTIR for 3/4 of the season. Last 15 games or so, get him ready for the playoffs, which is why you got him. And save 3/4 of his $5M salary cap ... I know, not very original, been used before but it works.
The Kucherov experiment? lol

[Hondaracer]

When’s the last time you heard about Keith being an impact dman? 3 years ago?

This isn’t going to end well and given he obviously wanted out to be closer to his family, the hawks not picking up some of the cap hit is crazy

[SumAznGuy]

When’s the last time you heard about Keith being an impact dman? 3 years ago?

This isn’t going to end well and given he obviously wanted out to be closer to his family, the hawks not picking up some of the cap hit is crazy

Another example.

https://www.tsn.ca/ryan-suter-zach-parise-minnesota-wild-buyout-1.1667311

I wonder if the Oilers will end up buying out Keith's contract.

[whitev70r]

^ WOW! I still remember Wild pulling off the heist in free agency to get those 2 guys, Suter and Parise .. are they done and over the hill.

Good pick ups for some team, since they got paid, maybe they will sign for veteran minimum. Go get them JB!

[RiceIntegraRS]

^ WOW! I still remember Wild pulling off the heist in free agency to get those 2 guys, Suter and Parise .. are they done and over the hill.

Good pick ups for some team, since they got paid, maybe they will sign for veteran minimum. Go get them JB!

Heist? Wtf. I dont know about everyone else but i remember it being a massive overpayment for those 2.

[68style]

Can’t believe that era with all the 10+ year contracts, that won’t happen for anyone not named McDavid anymore hahaha what were GM’s thinking

Both Suter and Parise were free agent signings by the Wild… nobody was heisted… well… at least not in a trade anyway… financially you could make an argument!

[whitev70r]

Well, maybe 'heist' wasn't the right word but I do recall that many teams were after them and then they managed to pull off getting both. You know you're going to overpay at free agency, that's a given.

But the point I was making was that I actually recall in my memory when they were signed as a BIG deal and now they are being bought out ... !!!

[Obsideon]

Damn it's crazy that Suter and Parise still have FOUR more years on their contracts and they basically fizzled out 2-3 years ago. That's 7 years of paying 2 players $15m for average players. It's almost Loui-esque.

[MG1]

The Stanley Cup is headed for Montreal!





....................to get repaired, lol.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/stanley-cup-heading-montreal-repairs-getting-dented-parade/


and no, it won't just buff out. That's some major damage. Not the first time. Then there's the time it got stolen and left on the side of the road.

[highfive]

Damn it's crazy that Suter and Parise still have FOUR more years on their contracts and they basically fizzled out 2-3 years ago. That's 7 years of paying 2 players $15m for average players. It's almost Loui-esque.

Praise yes. Suter maybe this season but he’s been a steady 40-50 pt defenceman. I’d take him over edler.

[CRS]

I'd take Suter in a heartbeat.

He'll probably play for a discount too since he's already getting paid.

[whitev70r]

Dim Jim too dim to think of bargain vets like above .. he will offer $6M/yr for 4 years to Suter. No trade and no move as signing bonus.

[MG1]

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/vancouver-canucks-on-the-hunt-for-new-practice-rink-locale

Made so much sense. Whatever............

[whitev70r]

Habs overselling Shea Weber injuries, then expose him to Seattle Kracken draft ... hoping they will not take him ... lol.

[Expresso]

Habs overselling Shea Weber injuries, then expose him to Seattle Kracken draft ... hoping they will not take him ... lol.

Sounds like he might retire via LTIR.

[6thGear.]

Surprised to see no reactions to the unveiling of Abbotsford Canucks here. They definitely got hijacked by the unveiling of the Giants new 3rd's

[pastarocket]

Surprised to see no reactions to the unveiling of Abbotsford Canucks here. They definitely got hijacked by the unveiling of the Giants new 3rd's


I like the Johnny Canuck logo for the Abbotsford team jerseys. Good choice.


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[6thGear.]

https://vancouvergiants.com/article/47364-2

Giants are much better imo

[whitev70r]

Anybody excited about this? I'm like meh

Canucks front runner for Zach Hyman

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-a-front-runner-to-sign-hyman-also-interested-in-schwartz-reports

[RiceIntegraRS]

Nope, a big effin no to Hyman. Hes a hard working guy but i dont want to see us overpay for him.

[AzNightmare]

These seem like the perfect kind of players that will get a big juicy contract from Benning and then either their production tanks or their health tanks.

[whitev70r]

I'd be really excited if JB tried to get Suter and Parise on cheap short term contracts since they got bought out. These veterans who have something to prove would be great addition, we could use the D and the F.

[CRS]

I'd be really excited if JB tried to get Suter and Parise on cheap short term contracts since they got bought out. These veterans who have something to prove would be great addition, we could use the D and the F.

Suter yes Parise absolutely fucking no

[6thGear.]

Suter would be a good bottom pair with Edler. 10-15min a game for those 2 will keep them fresh and healthy. They both can still be effective in special situatuons. But of course they both have to sign for cheap. Hyman could be a solid middle 6 but anything over 3.5/yr should be a big NO

[highfive]

Edler not coming back.. going to test out UFA market

[whitev70r]

Edler not coming back.. going to test out UFA market

Really ... at this stage in his life, presumably with young kids. Just maybe one season left in his career ??!! I'd take a hometown discount to stay. But maybe he wants to be part of a team that actually has a shot at the cup before he finishes. Maybe that's his motivation.

[Infiniti]

Edler not coming back.. going to test out UFA market

His agent didn't say he isn't coming back. The agent confirmed that he is gonna test free agency (i.e. see if he can get a better offer elsewhere compared to what the Canucks are offering). There is still a chance that if he doesn't receive an offer he likes that he circles back to the Canucks.

[6thGear.]

Edler not coming back.. going to test out UFA market

Yup. Saw the article shortly after I posted

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/canucks-alex-edler-to-explore-free-agency

Sounds like he wants to experience FA for once in his career. Be sad if he leaves but I feel he is on a short list of players that should have another shot at the cup again.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Good for him, i actually dont want to see him back tbh. Its time for someone else to take that 3rd pairing spot on the left side.

[6thGear.]

Time to sign Suter for cheap. Can't just fill spots with inexperienced players. That's the Oilers approach lol

[highfive]

I'd take suter over him. But does Suter want to come here?

I bet he would probably sign with Colorado or something.

Without Edler, Schmidt might take over the left side behind Hughes. OJ or Rathbone for the 3rd pair. Right side is just Myers... haha

[6thGear.]

JB announcing about going after big names may attract guys like Suter to sign for cheap?? Also doesn't Schmidt want a trade out of here?

[RiceIntegraRS]

I wouldnt mind trading Schmidt for a RHD and signing Suter for cheap to fill out the left side with Hughes and Rathbone but i feel like theres no reason for Suter to ever sign in Vancouver unless we are the only ones offering him a contract, which i doubt

[bobbinka]

i'm just excited to see what happens. this is likely JB's last shot before getting canned (if the team doesn't do well), so i expect relatively big changes... but then he's handcuffed with the existing contracts. guy's gotta work some magic.

[whitev70r]

^ more likely that he gets canned. I don't think even 2x GM of the year, Lou Lamoreillo can get out of the hole that JB dug over the past 4 years.

[68style]

I’ve been reading so many articles about how hard he’s working every single angle right now… but as usual I don’t see any results.

I’ll eat crow if he proves me wrong but I’m not going to hold my breath.

[whitev70r]

^Every GM is working overtime to put themselves in the best position for Seattle expansion draft.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Waiting for GMJB to say "we ran out of time"

[whitev70r]

Can someone explain ... Schmidt apparently wanted out. So why am I hearing that JB is protecting him from Seattle expansion draft? Does JB think he can get more for him from a trade?

[CRS]

Can someone explain ... Schmidt apparently wanted out. So why am I hearing that JB is protecting him from Seattle expansion draft? Does JB think he can get more for him from a trade?

If you lose him to the expansion, you lose him for nothing.

If JB even trades him for a bag of pucks, he gets a bag of pucks.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Can someone explain ... Schmidt apparently wanted out. So why am I hearing that JB is protecting him from Seattle expansion draft? Does JB think he can get more for him from a trade?

Depends on who u talk to but some people like me thinks he has positive value still, yet the others think he has negative value which is why u wouldnt protect him. Statistically he had a bad season but analytically he did pretty good from what i remember. If Duncan Keith fetches a 3rd and s B level prospect/fringe dmen. Schmidt who is 9 years younger? Should fetch u atleast that. I would not sell low on Schmidt. We are a much better team with him in the lineup even if he doesnt live up to his salary.

[6thGear.]

I thought mid season on he was one of our better D's.

Canucks traded for Jason Dickinson for a 3rd

[68style]

Dickinson is a good pickup he has solid career numbers (63pts in 221 games) for a guy who hasn’t been given much playing opportunity

[6thGear.]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/canadiens-shea-webers-career-threatened-lingering-foot-ankle-problems/sn-amp/

Nashvilles potential cap recapture on Weber if he retires makes Luongos look like pennies

[pastarocket]

Three team trade:


Associated Press
July 17, 2021, 3:28 PM
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Philadelphia Flyers finally landed a premier defenseman Saturday, acquiring Ryan Ellis in a trade with Nashville for defenseman Philippe Myers and forward Nolan Patrick.

The 30-year-old Ellis is coming back from shoulder surgery, but the Flyers think he can regain the form that made him one of the NHL's best defenseman -- a position of need for the team for a while.



Ellis is the second member of the Predators' 2017 Stanley Cup Final roster traded away this month. F orward Viktor Arvidsson was shipped off to the Los Angeles Kings on July 1.

Nashville didn't keep Patrick for very long, trading him to Vegas for forward Cody Glass.

"We felt it was time for a change to our core this offseason, and we are really excited to add an influx of youth, size and skill into the lineup with these additions," Nashville general manager David Poile said in a statement.

[RiceIntegraRS]

[NYR/TBL] Barclay Goodrow's UFA rights for 2022 7th round pick
[TOR/PIT] Jared McCann for Filip Hallander and 2023 7th round pick
[SJS/ARI] Adin Hill and 2022 7th round pick for Josef Korenar and 2022 2nd round pick
[VGK/NYR] Brett Howden for Nick DeSimone and 2022 4th round pick
[PHI/NSH/VGK] Ryan Ellis to PHI, Cody Glass and Philippe Myers to NSH, Nolan Patrick to VGK
[NYI/ARI] Andrew Ladd, 2021 2nd, 2022 cond. 2nd, 2023 cond. 3rd for no return

Heiskanen signs for 8years@8.45mil AAV

seems like alot for him...... Makar has to come in alot higher and im scared to see what Hughes gets

[pastarocket]

Dickinson is Dim Jim's way of finding a third line winger, minus the off ice baggage, to replace Virtanen.

[winson604]

Lol we joke about trading people for a bag of pucks. Andrew Ladd didn't even fetch that.

[bobbinka]

wow, Carey Price waived NMC to be exposed to Seattle

I know they're banking on Seattle not taking him, but what a gamble....

[Infiniti]

Heiskanen signs for 8years@8.45mil AAV

seems like alot for him...... Makar has to come in alot higher and im scared to see what Hughes gets

What!? Thats incredible value for a guy like Heis and that deal is gonna age really well.

[whitev70r]

wow, Carey Price waived NMC to be exposed to Seattle

I know they're banking on Seattle not taking him, but what a gamble....

Ballzy move! Seattle could pick him and trade him and get a couple of great players back ... like to Edmonton who desperately need a money goalie.

[SkinnyPupp]

Are they allowed to take players and just trade them? That seems pretty unfair

[punkwax]

Unless the rules have changed that’s what Vegas did. They took a bunch of Dmen then traded them for draft picks/players.

[highfive]

Ballzy move! Seattle could pick him and trade him and get a couple of great players back ... like to Edmonton who desperately need a money goalie.

Price cap will scare teams unless Seattle retain money.

[whitev70r]

Montreal leaving Shea Webber and Carey Price exposed ... pretty bold.

If you're a new expansion team, with no cap issues, why wouldn't you take Price? Montreal in same dilemma as Pittsburgh ... they had Matt Murray and MAF ... left MAF exposed and look what happened.

[punkwax]

https://mobile.twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1416558549338103809?s=19

Just learned Price’s contract will make it difficult for Seattle to pull a Vegas move.

He’s owed an $11M bonus this season as well. Calculated risk on Montreal‘s behalf.

:notbad:

[whitev70r]

K ... and it states that he only waived it for expansion purposes so Seattle can't pick him and trade him. Didn't know you can do that but OK ... making up rules as we go. His cap hit is $10.5 till 2026 but the money owed him gets progressively less cuz it was front heavy.

Here is his contract terms:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/carey-price

[AzNightmare]

If they pick up Price, is his NMC gone?
Or does he have to waive NMC in Seattle as well to get moved to another team afterward?

[MarkyMark]

If they pick up Price, is his NMC gone?
Or does he have to waive NMC in Seattle as well to get moved to another team afterward?

I tried looking into this too and I'm still not sure... It sounds like in previous trades, at the time of the trade the new team has to agree to keep the NMC intact or its done? Does this matter in an expansion draft?

[68style]

Canucks already swing and missed on their first huge opportunity of the off season.

We were one of the best positioned teams for the expansion draft with nobody that matters left exposed… somehow couldn’t grab anyone else’s “might as well trade them or we lose them for nothing to Seattle” players despite this.

DimJim is a joke.

[whitev70r]

Just the actual tweet above stating he cannot be traded if Seattle picks him.

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1416558549338103809

[punkwax]

Canucks already swing and missed on their first huge opportunity of the off season.

We were one of the best positioned teams for the expansion draft with nobody that matters left exposed… somehow couldn’t grab anyone else’s “might as well trade them or we lose them for nothing to Seattle” players despite this.

DimJim is a joke.


Jet Black Jim has to prioritize Pettersson and Hughes’ contracts in a flat cap world before spending elsewhere. Everyone would be pissed if did he didn’t.

His hands are tied until those contracts are signed and its due to circumstance IMO.

[Sw0op]

Canucks already swing and missed on their first huge opportunity of the off season.

We were one of the best positioned teams for the expansion draft with nobody that matters left exposed… somehow couldn’t grab anyone else’s “might as well trade them or we lose them for nothing to Seattle” players despite this.

DimJim is a joke.

who did you expect him to get?

no real big names got moved really

[68style]

Graves was a huge one.

Carolina has 3 amazing young Dmen and 1 of them will be exposed.

TBL has to expose some big names.

It may be that teams are wary after the fallout from the VGK expansion but…….. stuff was definitely out there that we needed and it was our best shot in a flat cap.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Graves was a huge one.

Carolina has 3 amazing young Dmen and 1 of them will be exposed.

TBL has to expose some big names.

It may be that teams are wary after the fallout from the VGK expansion but…….. stuff was definitely out there that we needed and it was our best shot in a flat cap.

Well apparently GMJB was in on Graves but judging what the Devils gave up, we would of had to give up a 2nd and a Lockwood/Gadjovich type player to get him. Maybe its worth it to some, but Graves doesnt solve the big hole on the right side.

I think after the Vegas expansion, GMs realise that if u multiple good players being exposed, its best just to lose 1 rather than trade 1 of them for pennies on the dollar and then seattle just picking another good player off your roster.

[68style]

I would have had zero issues with Gad or Lockwood and a pick for Graves… I don’t think Gad will ever make the NHL

[highfive]

Graves was a huge one.

Carolina has 3 amazing young Dmen and 1 of them will be exposed.

TBL has to expose some big names.

It may be that teams are wary after the fallout from the VGK expansion but…….. stuff was definitely out there that we needed and it was our best shot in a flat cap.

Looking at the lists today. It show teams are willing to lost a player. After vgk, doing less is better trying to do too much I suppose.

Look at Nashville. Exposing their two centres. Trading away arcidsson.

[whitev70r]

Montreal really selling it ... don't pick Carey, don't pick Carey!


https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1416896933076029441

[punkwax]

Montreal kneeds Price back.

[pastarocket]

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Official #canucks protection list

Protected: Boeser, Dickinson, Horvat, Miller, Motte, Pearson, Pettersson, Juolevi, Myers, Schmidt, Demko.
Available: Beagle, Eriksson, Highmore, MacEwen, Rouseel, Virtanen, Bowey, Holtby.

I doubt that the Kraken GM will take our overpaid fourth line players such as Beagle and Roussel. -definitely not Loui. LUL

[whitev70r]

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1416826896445284357

[bobbinka]

make them sweat a bit :lol

[68style]

Would the Canadiens be that bad off to lose Price? I think it's a great bold move by their management even if he gets taken... they kinda lucked out to get as far as they did in the playoffs, their team isn't that good and Price has maybe 1 or 2 elite years left in him at most? Getting rid of that salary would be a godsend for them to do a quick retool/rebuild they have so many great under 23 players. I think it's safe to say the window for winning a Cup with Price has almost shut with him being 33 now... he's turning 34 in August.

If they shed Price and Weber's salary that's like $20 million off their cap...

[Infiniti]

Would the Canadiens be that bad off to lose Price? I think it's a great bold move by their management even if he gets taken... they kinda lucked out to get as far as they did in the playoffs, their team isn't that good and Price has maybe 1 or 2 elite years left in him at most? Getting rid of that salary would be a godsend for them to do a quick retool/rebuild they have so many great under 23 players. I think it's safe to say the window for winning a Cup with Price has almost shut with him being 33 now... he's turning 34 in August.

If they shed Price and Weber's salary that's like $20 million off their cap...

Bergie has always had Randy Marsh sized balls

[murd0c]

So we lose Lind to the Kracken... It's crazy the entire list has leaked already!! ESPN must be so pissed since this is their first NHL broadcast.

[Eatman]

So we lose Lind to the Kracken... It's crazy the entire list has leaked already!! ESPN must be so pissed since this is their first NHL broadcast.

Seattle Kraken Roster Thus far, based on Leaks on Twitter:

Anaheim - D Haydn Fleury
Arizona -
Boston - D Jeremy Lauzon
Buffalo - D Will Borgen
Calgary - D Mark Giordano
Carolina - F Morgan Geekie
Chicago -
Colorado - F Joonas Donskoi
Columbus - D Gavin Bayreuther
Dallas - D Jamie Oleksiak
Detroit -
Edmonton - D Adam Larsson
Florida - G Chris Driedger
Los Angeles - D Kurtis MacDermid
Minnesota - D Carson Soucy
Montreal - D Cale Fleury
Nashville - F Calle Jarnkrok
New Jersey - F Nathan Bastian
NYI -
NYR -
Ottawa - G Joey Daccord
Philadelphia - F Carson Twarynski
Pittsburgh - F Brandon Tanev
San Jose - F Alex True
St. Louis - D Vince Dunn
Tampa -
Toronto - F Jared McCann
Vancouver - F Kole Lind
Washington - G Vitek Vanecek
Winnipeg - F Mason Appleton

[murd0c]

For those who want to see who the Kraken picked here is the list. I added a spoiler incase no one wants to find out already.



EDM: Larsson
DAL: Oleksiak
STL: Dunn
TOR: McCann
PHI: Twarynski
FLA: Driedger
OTT: Daccord
TB: Gourde
MTL: Fleury
VAN: Lind
PIT: Tanev
WSH: Vanecek
CAL: Girodano
WPG: Mason Appleton
NYI: Eberle
NSH: Järnkrok
COL: Donskoi
CAR: Geekie
MIN: Soucy
CBJ: Bayreuther
SJ: True
MIN: Soucy
CBJ: Bayreuther
SJ: True
ARI: Pitlick
BOS: Lauzon
NJ: Bastian
LAK: McDermid
ANA: Fleury
NYR: Blackwell
BUF: Borgen
CHI: Quenneville

[highfive]

So we lose Lind to the Kracken... It's crazy the entire list has leaked already!! ESPN must be so pissed since this is their first NHL broadcast.

Yeah...lol someone is getting fired haha

I'm hoping this builds up to some sort of trades to this evening.

Plus Kraken drafting all low cap players.

[murd0c]

Yeah...lol someone is getting fired haha

I'm hoping this builds up to some sort of trades to this evening.

Plus Kraken drafting all low cap players.

looks like the trades open tomorrow at 1pm.

[68style]

Very nice D corps, good goaltending, hard working forward group with questionable scoring ability though

[Liquid_o2]

That is a deep deep backend.

Mark Giordano, Adam Larsson, Vince Dunn, Hayden Fleury, Jamie Oleksiak, and Jeremy Lauzon as the probable top 6? Some strong candidates in the wings. I wouldn't be surprised if the Kraken trade of their D for a more offensive player. I agree with 68, it is going to be hard to find scoring with that lineup. I would have taken a flyer on one of Tarasenko or Ryan Johansen based on cap space.

[AzNightmare]

For those who want to see who the Kraken picked here is the list. I added a spoiler incase no one wants to find out already.



EDM: Larsson
DAL: Oleksiak
STL: Dunn
TOR: McCann
PHI: Twarynski
FLA: Driedger
OTT: Daccord
TB: Gourde
MTL: Fleury
VAN: Lind
PIT: Tanev
WSH: Vanecek
CAL: Girodano
WPG: Mason Appleton
NYI: Eberle
NSH: Järnkrok
COL: Donskoi
CAR: Geekie
MIN: Soucy
CBJ: Bayreuther
SJ: True
MIN: Soucy
CBJ: Bayreuther
SJ: True
ARI: Pitlick
BOS: Lauzon
NJ: Bastian
LAK: McDermid
ANA: Fleury
NYR: Blackwell
BUF: Borgen
CHI: Quenneville


lol, wished you included the first names.
I thought some players were traded by just reading the last name. I didn't know there were so many players with the same last names.

[BlackV62K2]

Kraken y u no pickup Canucks players with shit contracts :yuno:

[Expresso]

So we lose Lind to the Kracken... It's crazy the entire list has leaked already!! ESPN must be so pissed since this is their first NHL broadcast.

Only thing to look forward to now is if there were any side deals/trades that lead to their decisions.

[Hondaracer]

Imo I’d rather have Motte over Lind at this point in time

[Obsideon]

Well that was ... uneventful lol
So what happens now that we are stuck with Holtby for another year? I thought for sure they were taking him to mentor the other goalies.

[Hondaracer]

Legit the leak made me lose all interest in it.

Too bad because otherwise I would have made a point to watch it on TV

[Teriyaki]

I'm more interested in the trades that are going to go down. Surely there were some back-room deals that'll show themselves. I want to see some 5D chess being played!!

[RiceIntegraRS]

Well that was ... uneventful lol
So what happens now that we are stuck with Holtby for another year? I thought for sure they were taking him to mentor the other goalies.

Well since Seattle didnt take him, hopefully someone else wants his services. Hard to believe but apparently there was alot of interest in him.

[Kilinim]

Kraken roster looks a bit weak tbh

[whitev70r]

^ that's what I thought about Vegas after the expansion draft. I think these players must play out of their minds cuz they have chips on their shoulders ... you left ME unprotected ... I'll show you!

Frankly, Seattle is not a bad city to relocate to.

[murd0c]

10am pst is when trades are allowed again, with a Benning press conference at 11 he had to of made a move with Seattle. Maybe we are getting Larson from them?

[pastarocket]

According to Bergevin, Weber is probably not playing again.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-gm-bergevin-says-shea-weber-probably-wont-play/

Marc Bergevin says Shea Weber has several injuries (ankle, foot, knee, thumb). "Even missing a practice for him wasn't an option. He has a lot of mileage...He won't be back next season, and probably won't be back for his career."

Maybe the Habs can keep him on injured reserve for next season until the playoffs start again. LUL


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[winson604]

According to Bergevin, Weber is probably not playing again.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canadiens-gm-bergevin-says-shea-weber-probably-wont-play/

Marc Bergevin says Shea Weber has several injuries (ankle, foot, knee, thumb). "Even missing a practice for him wasn't an option. He has a lot of mileage...He won't be back next season, and probably won't be back for his career."

Maybe the Habs can keep him on injured reserve for next season until the playoffs start again. LUL


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If he does retire that's going to be a crazy recapture penalty for Nashville lol. 4.9 million until 2025-2026.

[sonick]

If he does retire that's going to be a crazy recapture penalty for Nashville lol. 4.9 million until 2025-2026.

Watch Bettman waive the recapture for Nashville if that happens :rukidding:

[pastarocket]

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[68style]

8 years on Hyman? Whew no thanks, dude is already 29

[winson604]

8 years on Hyman? Whew no thanks, dude is already 29

Lol I guess after losing Larsson they were like mf we have to do something.

[CRS]

Ken Holland doesn't believe in the salary cap.

[BlackV62K2]

Ken Holland doesn't believe in the salary cap.

Neither does Julien BriseBois :troll:

[6thGear.]

Flyers trade Shayne Gostisbehere for literally nothing in return.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/coyotes-acquire-shayne-gostisbehere-two-picks-flyers/

We can't even rid of Eriksson.....

[68style]

Tbh I’d rather let Eriksson’s contract just run out at this point with him in the minors then give up 2 picks including a second (!!!) just to dump him somewhere.

[6thGear.]

True but burying his contract doesn't save much cap space (Few hundred thousand I think??). His contract is quite bulletproof. Sitting him merely opens up a roster spot

[Obsideon]

I didn't even know you could make a "trade" like that, not even a 7th rounder back? lol
Arizona has always been the salary dumping grounds of the league.

[68style]

I'm not even sure why there needs to be a sweetener... Ghostbear is so obviously a product of a bad environment... must be some shit behind the scenes we don't know about with his attitude, I know he was complaining a lot last year but it seemed like a competitive guy saying his team plays like shit and he wasn't wrong. Dude still scored 0.5pts per game last year when he was in the lineup. How many Dmen can say that for a 4.5 cap hit? We're paying $6 mill in cap hit a piece for both Giraffe and Schmidt and neither of them can touch 0.5ppg.

Only 2 years left... why not... seems a likely candidate for a resurgence with a fresh start.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Yup no point trading him now, he only has 1 more year left. If we were gonna trade him, it should of been last year or the year before that. I would only get rid of him if someone would take him for a low draft pick at this point.

Someone on IG just noticed that Petey just removed Vancouver Canucks from his bio......... Benning said today he would match any offersheet Petey signs but why let it get to that point..... i dont understand. Theres probably a couple teams ready to give Petey a contract that he wants but Benning is reluctantly to give but will match no problem?

[68style]

Yah he should be careful, a team that’s on the cusp and wanting to go all-in for a run might go for it… even in the 6.16 to 8.22 range a first, second and 3rd for Petey might be worth the risk for a few teams and the price would be tough for the Canucks to match if it’s a longer term and above 8.

I'm a bit worried about the Canucks core stars tbh............ Petey hasn't proven to be very durable and I'm not so sure he's a team carrying player... and I feel like there's a real risk of Hughes bolting to the USA or joining his brother or brothers somewhere, especially if NJD drafts Luke. I don't get the impression Miller is going to stick around either... even Horvat had some feisty comments at the end of the year. Maybe the Sedins can come in and bridge that gap between the players and management but I feel things could get disastrous in a real hurry here.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Its a classic Benning move, gives 3rd liners whatever they want and handcuffs himself then but plays hard ball with our best players.

[68style]

Yah of all the UFA/RFA the Canucks have this year, they make the most obvious commitment to Tanner f*cking Pearson... sigh.....................

[6thGear.]

Yup no point trading him now, he only has 1 more year left. If we were gonna trade him, it should of been last year or the year before that. I would only get rid of him if someone would take him for a low draft pick at this point.

Someone on IG just noticed that Petey just removed Vancouver Canucks from his bio......... Benning said today he would match any offersheet Petey signs but why let it get to that point..... i dont understand. Theres probably a couple teams ready to give Petey a contract that he wants but Benning is reluctantly to give but will match no problem?

Just checked it's not in his bio but still ahs profile pic of himself in canucks jersey. He's also on vacay in Greece atm

[murd0c]

I was so excited for the last two days but it was nothing but a yawn fest... All I know is they better not fuck up the draft tomorrow.

[Expresso]

If he does retire that's going to be a crazy recapture penalty for Nashville lol. 4.9 million until 2025-2026.

Won't be one if he stays on LTIR.

[whitev70r]

From a player's point of view, what is the difference between retiring and LTIR (and then retire after contract term expires). I know it makes a helluva difference from the team's perspective.

[68style]

From a player's point of view, what is the difference between retiring and LTIR (and then retire after contract term expires). I know it makes a helluva difference from the team's perspective.

So far as I know, you don't get paid the remainder of your contract if you retire, but you do get paid if you're on LTIR.

[whitev70r]

Then why wouldn't a player and team choose LTIR 100% of the time.

I remember the Leafs did with a couple of players just to bury their contracts and get the cap relief.

[RiceIntegraRS]

they do choose LTIR 99.9% of the time. That 0.1% was Luongo....... I never fully understood why he wasnt placed on LTIR by the Panthers. *Edit just read an article to jog my memory, panthers save on the cap hit of Luongo now, while the Canucks take the brunt of the penalty.

[whitev70r]

^ K, so for Shea Weber, if he retires, it could be some sort of saving for Canadiens but Nashville has to bend over ...

[murd0c]

they do choose LTIR 99.9% of the time. That 0.1% was Luongo....... I never fully understood why he wasnt placed on LTIR by the Panthers. *Edit just read an article to jog my memory, panthers save on the cap hit of Luongo now, while the Canucks take the brunt of the penalty.

another reason why Lu decided to retire was he wanted to work in hockey and from my understanding if the player is on LTIR he's still considered employed but the NHL team so it's not like he could go out and get a different job with in hockey.

[SumAznGuy]

another reason why Lu decided to retire was he wanted to work in hockey and from my understanding if the player is on LTIR he's still considered employed but the NHL team so it's not like he could go out and get a different job with in hockey.

Wasn't Pronger on LTIR while working for the NHL or was that under a different CBA?

[murd0c]

Wasn't Pronger on LTIR while working for the NHL or was that under a different CBA?

way different CBA and situation I believe.

[punkwax]

Rasmus Ristolainen to the Flyers.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl-draft-blog-jack-eichel-zach-hyman-1.1671800

[whitev70r]

Wasn't Pronger on LTIR while working for the NHL or was that under a different CBA?

Pronger has 'Bettman privileges' for some reason.

[Expresso]

^ K, so for Shea Weber, if he retires, it could be some sort of saving for Canadiens but Nashville has to bend over ...

No, MTL would be responsible for some of the recapture as well. It just wouldn't be as severe as what NSH would pay as they received more of the benefit over the entirety of the contract.

Luongo was really the first time a person decided to retire and consequently the teams being punished with recapture.

List of other players who are eligible for recapture unless already on LTIR:

Shea Weber MTL* 14 2026 $7.857
Duncan Keith CHI 13 2023 $5.538
Alex Ovechkin WSH 13 2021 $9.538
Zach Parise/Ryan Suter MIN 13 (each) 2025 $7.538 (apiece)
Marian Hossa ARI^ 12 2021 $5.275
Sidney Crosby PIT 12 2025 $8.7
Henrik Zetterberg DET 12 2021 $6.083
Jeff Carter LAK" 11 2022 $5.272
Johan Franzen DET 11 2020 $3.954
Jonathan Quick LAK 10 2023 $5.8
Nicklas Backstrom WSH 10 2020 $6.7
Jordan Staal CAR 10 2023 $6

[CRS]

Guess I won't be watching the draft tonight.

Huge salary dump incoming to Arizona for our 1st

[SumAznGuy]

Guess I won't be watching the draft tonight.

Huge salary dump incoming to Arizona for our 1st

https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/1418673321923674113
https://arizonasports.com/story/2736665/coyotes-talks-oliver-ekman-larsson-garland-to-canucks/


Fingers crossed

[murd0c]

I'm fucken shocked and happy when I didnt think I would be happy.

[pastarocket]

Oh no. Dim Jim better not make this move.

-trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat but instead gets overpriced fertilizer turd.

OEL still has 6 years left in his 8 year, 66 million dollar contract.

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[AzNightmare]

:lawl: :lawl: :lawl:

[SumAznGuy]

Supposedly Ariz keeps $1.2M of OEL's cap.

[pastarocket]

Dumb ass Dim Jim!

Takes one step forward and two steps back with this trade to get OEL and Garland.

Salary dump of the overpaid fourth line players by Benning is a good move.

Then Dim Jim fucks up the trade by acquiring a thirty year old d man with 6 years remaining on a 66 million dollar contract.

Is OEL that big of an upgrade to our defensive core??

Really?? :facepalm:


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[Razor Ramon HG]

Looks like we be paying OEL 7M a year + potentially an additional first rounder next year.

Please no.

[AzNightmare]

WTF..... additional first rounder?

So much sacrifice. Dim Jim really thinks team is going to win the cup this season.
I mean, might as well go for it, right? Not his problem anymore after this season if the Canucks don't make the playoffs anyway.

[winson604]

Doesn't look like additional first. 1st, 2nd (next year) and a 7th

[mb_]

Holy fuck didn't see that one coming

[spoon.ek9]

two 1st round picks would be highway robbery even with salary retention. JB better not be that fucking stupid.

[winson604]

OEL and Garland for Beagle, Eriksson, Roussel a 1st tonight, a 2nd (next year) and a 7th. ARIZ retains 12 per cent of OEL salary

[6thGear.]

Wow. I know it's salary dump which is good thing for signing Petey and Quinn but on the other hand that's more draft picks we're giving up. But at the same time it's possible our window needs to start next season especially with Bo voicing his opinion. I think the jury needs to be out on this for the time being

[Expresso]

Desperate move for a GM that wants back in the playoffs asap...

[Obsideon]

Seeing some polarizing feedback, some say we got robbed, some say it's a huge win.
I guess it also depends on how Garland steps up and how OEL regresses. He's not throw-in. At the moment I think it's a good trade.
Getting out of the 4th liner's contracts is huge, although he was the one that signed them all ... :facepalm:

[spoon.ek9]

on paper it seems like a good deal for us. but obviously we have to see how this pans out during the season.

[Hondaracer]

Oh whattttt

[AzNightmare]

OEL's 30.
He's not going to get any better. That's a long contract to take.

Garland's pt/g on paper seems decent. I don't know anything about him other than that.
Looks like a legit top 6 fwd though with some more room to grow.

His potential is what makes this trade a win or not...

[winson604]

My fucking god how many years did we wait to get the contract of these guys off the books. Off the top of my head didn't all 3 contracts end at the end of this season? I was ok with going through this year knowing it's another throw away year but we'll have money to spend. Nope! Not only did we take on OEL's contract but we gave away 3 picks? Holy crap this is a terrible trade. Yotes should be laughing. Other GMs probably also kicking and screaming losing the chance to rob Dim Jim.

[6thGear.]

OEL may be 30 but the other options we were looking at was Edler and Hamonic. At least OEL is proven to be a top dman. Better than aging Keith going to the oilers

[Hondaracer]

I think OEL can play a big role, he’s our #1 now basically

[RiceIntegraRS]

Its gonna take awhile to wrap my head around this trade. We're a better team now but at what expense of our future? Im hoping the OEL regression was because he simply didnt wanna play for Arizona anymore......

[Hondaracer]

While dim Jim gives away picks like candy #9 didn’t seem toooo good this year.

Let’s watch what can be had between 7-12 or so tonight

[BlackV62K2]

DimJim loves handcuffing himself. Guess he's going big, if he fails and gets fired, its the next GMs problem.

[highfive]

OEL's regression

1. Age / injury...downhill from 30

2. His game is always there. Played in a shitty system of Arizona. Can he become the 40-50 pt guy?

30 is not that old. Lots of dman in their 30s and top pairing.

[68style]

Garland is a really good player, honestly I think he's better than our projected 9th pick would ever be.

If OEL can play at a high level to 34/35 years old......... this is a win for me.

It's just too bad that all those guys were pretty much done after this year and we could just have a fresh start.

[murd0c]

OEL hasn't been happy in AZ, we all know he wanted to play here and along side Hughes this is a massive move. Especially with basically every team needing dmen this year and the flat cap. With the 1.2 in salary retained I think this is a huge move for us, a top 4 dman and a top 6 forward is exactly what we have been needing.

[punkwax]

I am ok with this.

Wish AZ had retained more salary, however, overall this isn’t too bad of a deal. If the draft was deep, I might have a different tune.

[spoon.ek9]

I think there's some clarification needed here. It's actually 12% retained, not $1.2M.

12% of $8.25M is $990,000 which leaves a $7.26M cap hit for us.

It seems like teams are more interested in 2022 and beyond draft picks because of the limited info on this year's group. Scouts weren't able to see a lot of players play in person due to covid restrictions. Logically it makes sense but of course, this isn't the first time we've seen JB mortgage the future to win right now. Really, REALLY hope this doesn't bite us in the ass down the road.

I'm of the theory that OEL was absolutely miserable in AZ as it's a true dumpster fire of an organization. Comments from Garland seemed like he too was fed up with AZ.

[SumAznGuy]

Its gonna take awhile to wrap my head around this trade. We're a better team now but at what expense of our future? Im hoping the OEL regression was because he simply didnt wanna play for Arizona anymore......

I think it's this ^^^.
Instantly frees up massive cap space for DimJim to sign Petey and Hughes.
Gives them a top pair D man to replace Edler.

Frees room on the roster for DimJim to offer Podkolzin a roster spot and to offer Dickenson a contract.

But the long term cost, giving up 3 picks.

Overall I still think DimJim gave up a ton but at the same time I think the long game will show if this was a good trade of not.

[Alpine]

I for one am excited about this, as I think this OEL regression has been overly exaggerated. We should have at least another 3-4 good years left. Garland is also a good pickup, assuming we won't have to break the bank signing him as he's still an RFA.

Yes, Roussel/Eriksson/Beagle only had 1 year left on their contracts, but do we want to waste a prime year of Peterson/Boser/Hughes/Horvat? What message does it send to this group if we're willing to say we'll just throw away a year of their primes?
Our "rebuild" is over after picking the aforementioned big 4, and sliding Demko into the #1 G spot. And that's a pretty damn solid rebuild if you ask me. It's time to go.

[SkinnyPupp]

Surprised I am seeing people say they would rather have a "throwaway season" than try to make big trades and win now

They have some great players, excellent coaching, made a great run the other year, have great goaltending.. And you want to "throw away" a season and rebuild from zero after that? With the #9 pick in a weird draft that didn't have proper scouting? :seriously:

[Alpine]

Surprised I am seeing people say they would rather have a "throwaway season" than try to make big trades and win now

They have some great players, excellent coaching, made a great run the other year, have great goaltending.. And you want to "throw away" a season and rebuild from zero after that? With the #9 pick in a weird draft that didn't have proper scouting? :seriously:

Not to mention this #9 pick could take 2-3 years to develop if they even pan out at all. I get it, people see the first-round pick and the initial thought is that we're going to be getting a top-line F/D that can jump in almost right away.

So much of today's offense comes from the D. I hated seeing us not resign Ehrhoff as he was a huge piece of our offense during those years.

[TjAlmeida]

Hope they have a pre arranged agreement with Garland since he is a RFA.

[spoon.ek9]

Hope they have a pre arranged agreement with Garland since he is a RFA.

Rumour has it they haven't even spoken to Garland prior to the trade. If he signs a decent contract we should be ok.

[pastarocket]

Benning better get on his horse and talk with Petey's agent quickly. Get a new contract done for Petey before other teams' GM start giving offer sheets for Petey.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Rumour has it they haven't even spoken to Garland prior to the trade. If he signs a decent contract we should be ok.

https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1418681614033244160

[spoon.ek9]

those are his comments ABOUT the trade. we're talking about initial contract negotiations as he's an RFA.


side note: hopefully these new additions means we buy out or trade JV. I'm also seeing rumors about Canucks shopping Schmidt which I really hope isn't the case.

[highfive]

Surprised I am seeing people say they would rather have a "throwaway season" than try to make big trades and win now

They have some great players, excellent coaching, made a great run the other year, have great goaltending.. And you want to "throw away" a season and rebuild from zero after that? With the #9 pick in a weird draft that didn't have proper scouting? :seriously:

Canucks fans.

Drafts 9th overall player. X player doesn't pan out as expected in 2-3 years.

Canucks Fans: WTF JIM BENNING! SCOUTS SUCK. WE NEED BRACKETT.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Left handed defencmen; Hughes, Rathbone, OEL, Schmidt, Joulevi

Right handed defencmen; Myers

[6thGear.]

Rumor a couple week ago is Schmidt asked for a trade but yet he didn't shoot the rumors down whereas Miller came out instantly saying he never asked for a trade. Also for JV I think the Canucks can void his contract if he does get prosecuted no?

[Teriyaki]

I am OK with this trade. Yes one more year before those contracts expire anyway but that's throwing away another year. We get immediately better for less money? That's 3 anchors gone in one massive shake up. If you're gonna be tied to cap space, might as well be tied to players that have some possible upside and not be tied to garbage.

[pastarocket]

Benning is going all in to build a legit Stanley Cup contender.

JB’s “all in” Poker face:

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[mb_]

Just realized, we got OEL AND we didn't have to trade away Demko!! :lawl:

[iwantaskyline]

Ah we got ourselves a new “Ericsson” contract. Benning magic.

[6thGear.]

OEL played decent in an off year for a shitty Arizona team. Eriksson played good on a stacked Boston team

and the prize is Garland not OEL

[rb]

Inb4 Benning pulls off a trade for OEL to top Holland

Called it lol

[murd0c]

Rumour has it they haven't even spoken to Garland prior to the trade. If he signs a decent contract we should be ok.

Garland is good buddies with Rathbone working out and playing golf together. This is huge with getting him signed which I don't see that being an issue at all.

[whitev70r]

I think it has the POTENTIAL to be a good trade. One unpredictable is how the players actually perform so we'll see in good time.

This roster at the moment is still pretty far from a 'contender'.

[whitev70r]

Watch Eriksson and Beagle have a breakout year.

[winson604]

So after my emotional knee jerk reaction in my post here are my thoughts.

- JB basically got rid of all a bunch of his free agent mistakes in 1 tradeol bravo. Of course the contracts for all 3 expire at the end if the year so while props, not mad props

- Admittedly since I had my first born (7 years ago) I haven't had the ability to watch hockey to the degree I did pre fatherhood. I didn't know who the fuck Garland was so thought who was this bum the threw in. Sounds like he's solid and while not signed yet it should be fine

- The Canucks while essentially having not been a playoff team for years minus COVID and 1st year Willie D we sure love trading away draft picks and here are 3 more gone. Sure, you have to give to get but I think if we look back they've mostly been a waste I.e. Very but sometimes a win I.e. JT Miller imo

- OEL well I guess it all comes down to this. I'm not crazy about OEL but sure he makes us better no doubt and while I don't expect him to be really good in the ladder years i just have Loui E PTSD in me with the term like fuck I just survived 5 of 6 years of Loui I hope it won't be the case here.

[Hondaracer]

To make any of this work OEL has to play like a top pairing Dman, to make the difference we need to make a run he will need to return to form to a true #1 in all odds

Swedes seem to always need their buddy around so OEL and Petey hopefully already know each other and this deal must also be a huge weight off Hughes’s shoulders now

[Alpine]

Adding another Swede hopefully means we can bring Edler back cheap as a 3rd pairing D.

[AzNightmare]

Looks decent on paper..
but all it takes is one injury and the whole ship sinks...

Still need way more depth to be a contender.

[RiceIntegraRS]

If 9th OA could of potentially be Brandt Clarke id be pretty sad.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Phew after Clarke i believe theres a huge dropoff now. I wasnt high on Guenther

[68style]

Surprised how high MacTavish, Johnson and Guenther have gone… not that upset about this trade anymore as long as OEL plays decent for half his remaining… Garland was quoted as saying he loves the game if Petey, Horvat and Hughes and that he watched Demko at Boston College and that he can’t wait to help them be better so sounds like he’s pretty jacked

[Alpine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/oqc1mp/morgan_conor_garland_on_leaving_az_everybody/

More Garland: "It stings. I wanted to be there forever. I guess they’ll never know what they could have got me for, price-wise. They'll never find out. I would have stayed there forever, through the rebuild. It’s too bad, but everything happens for a reason.”

The " I guess they’ll never know what they could have got me for, price-wise. They'll never find out. I would have stayed there forever, through the rebuild." part is interesting because he is confirming they are rebuilding AND implying he would have taken a discount

[bobbinka]

I don't mind this. It's JB's last shot, he had to make some big changes, and this was it.

People say the 3 contracts would've ended in a year and gave us cap relief, but there's no guarantee JB wouldnt have signed some more plugs with that or that he could've scored something good on free agency. At least here we got someone who can actually play.

Will he be worth his contract 3 years or 5 years from now? who knows. we've seen players who light it up after a change, and players who can't even make the lineup after a change.

i'm sure having OEL will make more players want to play here now. Petey, Hughes, Horvat, Boeser, and now Garland & OEL. we have Hog who will better establish himself this next year and Podz coming in. Things are looking bright. it's likely Schmidt or another Dman will get moved, so there'll still be room to pay the young guns. it might also make the kids more willing to take bridge deals at a discount now.

The only problem i see here is that we'll need to fill out the bottom 6 again. despite their cap hit, beagle and roussel were staples to the 3/4 lines. and with JV potentially being bought out, that's 3 guys we need to replace. God knows what JB will do.... lol

[68style]

Beagle and Roussel hardly even played last year??? Why are they important at all?

Bottom 6 is going to be Pearson, Dickinson, Podkolzin (3rd line) and 4th will be probably be Motte, Highmore and Lockwood or MacEwen... something like that. Possibly Boyd or Hawyrluk come back.

[spoon.ek9]

Beagle was a solid 4C. He was a large part of the reason why our 4th line was not to be underestimated when we were in the playoffs that one year. Can he be replaced? Sure, the question is with who? Ours (and JB's) goal here isn't just to limp into the playoffs. We want success and the only true team success formula involves depth which we clearly do no have. And hence, this is why people cringe when they see our draft picks being thrown into essentially every deal JB has ever made. If we were a perennial contender, giving up picks would be totally fine. But we aren't. We've made the playoffs twice since 2015 but we're making deals like ermagerd we so close let's do this!

With all that said, I'm still trying to look at the positives and the potential of next season :lol

[punkwax]

Sutter is still around too..

This deal has made the Canucks a better team than they were last season.

Let’s hope Podkolzin makes an impact year one similar to what Höglander did.