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m3thods · 11-22-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueG2

so many people just play once a week (their league games) and wonder why they haven't improved in years... also, it isn't just phsyical skill.. it's reading play's, and anticipating what your next move/your opponents next moves are.

I didn't say practice is useless. I said once the person felt comfortable skating and stick-handling, there's more to learn by playing and making mistakes. At that point (and especially at our beer-league level) practice is for learning that toe-drag move you saw someone else pull, and not really how you can draw every ounce of power in your skating stride.

And the latter part of your statement- there's no better way to pick that up than to make the mistakes yourself in a game. You can watch hockey on TV and say what you would do in any given situation you see, but without going through it in person you'll never learn that part of the game. I don't really see how you can practice game-speed anticipation and reading plays in a stick-and-puck session.

!Nhan · 11-22-2012, 02:12 PM

ANyone here use the warrior diablo/dynasty/widow? which one you like best? you like the axysym stuff? thinking about buying one since they're so cheap right now

Kilinim · 11-22-2012, 02:34 PM

Warrior has a promo right now where you can try a Covert D1 or 2 basically for free for 30 days. Looks like you buy the stick, if you don't like it, send via mail to Warrior and your money will be returned or they'll give you another Warrior stick.

!Nhan · 11-22-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilinim

Warrior has a promo right now where you can try a Covert D1 or 2 basically for free for 30 days. Looks like you buy the stick, if you don't like it, send via mail to Warrior and your money will be returned or they'll give you another Warrior stick.

sounds interesting, but i don't wanna go through the hassle lol. i always buy sticks on clearance because i'm a cheap fuck

SolidPenguin · 11-22-2012, 03:31 PM

The Diablo is nice for the money right now. It does feel whippier than its rated flex, so just be wary of that.

Spidey · 11-22-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by !Nhan

sounds interesting, but i don't wanna go through the hassle lol. i always buy sticks on clearance because i'm a cheap fuck

an email is a hassle? lol.

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Originally Posted by m3thods

I didn't say practice is useless. I said once the person felt comfortable skating and stick-handling, there's more to learn by playing and making mistakes. At that point (and especially at our beer-league level) practice is for learning that toe-drag move you saw someone else pull, and not really how you can draw every ounce of power in your skating stride.

And the latter part of your statement- there's no better way to pick that up than to make the mistakes yourself in a game. You can watch hockey on TV and say what you would do in any given situation you see, but without going through it in person you'll never learn that part of the game. I don't really see how you can practice game-speed anticipation and reading plays in a stick-and-puck session.

I wasn't criticizing your comment. I was actually agreeing with you, and stating my own separate opinion regarding people who play only league games and don't get better with their skills. I apologize if it seemed like I quoted your comment to pick it apart.

Spidey · 11-22-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidPenguin

The Diablo is nice for the money right now. It does feel whippier than its rated flex, so just be wary of that.

A lot of sticks seem "whippier" now because their rated flex is what it is after it has been cut a couple inches.

m3thods · 11-22-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueG2

A lot of sticks seem "whippier" now because their rated flex is what it is after it has been cut a couple inches.

This is most apparent with Easton, but I don't know if any other manufacturer does it. To be fair I haven't handled some of the new sticks yet.

And no worries about the previous comment- I misunderstood what you were saying so my bad.

!Nhan · 11-22-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueG2

an email is a hassle? lol.

ok not the email, but the part where i have to mail it in if i don't like it and decide if i want a refund or a different stick. if i do (which i'm pretty sure i will since i'm biased towards warrior sticks)

but mostly because i'm cheap LOL

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Originally Posted by BlueG2

A lot of sticks seem "whippier" now because their rated flex is what it is after it has been cut a couple inches.

i know warrior adds an extra 3" to the end of their sticks now

6thGear. · 11-22-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by m3thods

There's only so much you can do in a practice when it comes to improving. There's a reason players prefer playing to practicing on your own.

Once you're comfortable with skating and have some semblance of stick-handling, the only way to get used to playing the game is to actually play the game. You're bound to make mistakes when you're learning a game as difficult as ice hockey, but you learn from them.

Things that you can seriously improve off-ice is your conditioning/strength, and your shot. If you have a big yard, a net, and a bucket of pucks, that's what I would be doing when not playing. Against pretty much all beer-league goalies, if you have a good shot, you'll score a ton even if you can't skate and just hang out in the vicinity of the net.

You're talking about how to play the game better which I'll agree with you that playing more games will help but he asked how to improve on a specific skill set which honestly only practicing at stick and puck / power skating will he get better.

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Originally Posted by !Nhan

but mostly because i'm cheap LOL

I can vouch for that

!Nhan · 11-23-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 6thGear.

I can vouch for that

lol fucker

SolidPenguin · 11-23-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueG2

A lot of sticks seem "whippier" now because their rated flex is what it is after it has been cut a couple inches.

Well the Dagger taper on the warrior sticks does make the stick feel whippier. Also the diablo is "pro length" which adds another 3 inches to the stick, so that would make it even whippier uncut

kristianhay · 11-23-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pinke

I haven't looked but if its the all black one then its an ai9 according to identification sticker on the shaft. In terms of looks its pretty nice having almost no graphics. Personally I feel is too heavy but to each their own.
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I just picked up the black Ai9 pro stock stick and I'll be using it tonight. It's a really nice stick for the price and while it may feel a little heavy, it feels really well balanced. Not to mention that it's a true OPS as opposed to a fused one piece. All the reviews I've read about it have been positive so I'm excited to use it.

They're over 50% off retail for a top of the line stick so, not a bad deal at all. Stock is limited so I would grab one while they're still around.

I also got a warranty on mine, not sure how but got the sheet from SportChek and everything.

!Nhan · 11-23-2012, 03:20 PM

if i get my skates punched out do i have to wait a certaim period of time before i use them?
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SumAznGuy · 11-23-2012, 06:52 PM

Not when I had my skates punched out.

6thGear. · 11-23-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by !Nhan

if i get my skates punched out do i have to wait a certaim period of time before i use them?
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No. Can use right away.

jack3d · 11-24-2012, 01:26 AM

when u guys receive passes, do u cradle it or apply pressure on your stick?

!Nhan · 11-24-2012, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jack3d

when u guys receive passes, do u cradle it or apply pressure on your stick?

people tell me to cradle it, but i apply a bit of pressure to soften the speed of puck and try to deflect it in the direction im skating in

Spidey · 11-24-2012, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jack3d

when u guys receive passes, do u cradle it or apply pressure on your stick?

I think it depends on the scenario... I really can't picture myself consciously cradling the puck unless I am playing pass during warmup. I could be doing it subconsciously during gameplay though.

mickz · 11-24-2012, 07:55 AM

I prefer just to tap the puck against the direction it is coming from. It works better for me especially taking passes on the back hand.

kristianhay · 11-24-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jack3d

when u guys receive passes, do u cradle it or apply pressure on your stick?

Cradle it. It will allow for quicker control of the puck and also reduces the chances of it bouncing off of a stiff blade. Once you start doing it enough, it will become natural.

SolidPenguin · 11-24-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kristianhay

I also got a warranty on mine, not sure how but got the sheet from SportChek and everything.

Cause its technically not really "pro stock" so they may still honor some sort of warranty

kristianhay · 11-24-2012, 02:07 PM

^

Yeah, that's what I figured. They're all retail curves and whatnot, just listed as prostock so they're allowed to sell them for a cheaper price. Pleasant surprise nonetheless!

SumAznGuy · 11-24-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kristianhay

Cradle it. It will allow for quicker control of the puck and also (b)reduces the chances of it bouncing off of a stiff blade(/b). Once you start doing it enough, it will become natural.

This is the most important part. Usually, I keep the lower hand loose on the stick with a slight cradle.
When I grip the stick hard, I find my lower hand tenses up to the point the puck will just bounce the blade when I am receiving a hard pass.

Also, pay attention to the direction of the blade. When you practice, try to keep the blade turned in. I see people not pay attention then during game situations, the blade is turned away and acts as a ramp and the puck rolls up and over the blade.

kristianhay · 11-24-2012, 02:24 PM

^

Yup, that's another good point. Being aware of how your blade is sitting on the ice is important as well.

It doesn't have to be a huge cradle to receive the puck smoothly, just enough so you can receive the puck and make a quick play with it. Cradling the puck acts as a cushion - both forehand and backhand.

I was taught to cradle by Shane Doan back in the day so it stuck with me haha