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12-19-2010, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by willystyle  This is BS, we need more competition. Having Telus and Shaw as the only 2 major players in town just isn't right. | If you live in Richmond or along the Canada line in a highrise, phone Rueben Moses from Novus, all you need is 15% of the units to sign up to get your building wired for Fiber. I've approached Novus for my building in Richmond, strata passed the proposal and now we need just need 30 accounts out of 200, easy with Shaw acting like they are showing such greed, and if I get all 200 to signed up, it should be a lose of revenue for Shaw of $20,000.00-$30,000.00 per month, based on $100-$150.00 per account.
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12-19-2010, 09:40 AM
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#27 | | NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
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Originally Posted by dangonay I think they should go with straight metered billing. No monthly fees, just a flat rate per GB.
Then us "normal" people would have low monthly bills while all the copyright infringing assholes downloading music, movies, games, porn and whatever would be paying through the nose. |
That would be like a cell service, which nobody wants. The future of broadband media is at stake, innovation, future technology, e-commerce, you name it. Canada is slipping on the World Ranks of Internet, based on speed, price, quality, innovation, Canada use to be in the top 10, now we are the 33rd spot and slipping, even Russia, Slovakia, Iceland and other almost third world countries have a better class rating then us. http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0 | |
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12-19-2010, 10:12 AM
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shaw finally caught on with the east, watch the profit soar after this is implemented
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12-19-2010, 02:01 PM
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#29 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Fuck. I'm on Extreme and I (just me, not including the rest of my family) have used 245.3GB in the past 31 days....
EDIT: found a large discussion thread on this topic at dslreports - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r249...xtra-bandwidth.
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12-19-2010, 02:27 PM
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#30 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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What crooks, I love how just a year or two ago they raised the "cap" to 125GB for extreme and now have lowered it to 100GB.
Be sure to keep up on the issue at http://openmedia.ca/, because this will have massive implications on us all.
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12-19-2010, 02:56 PM
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#31 | | Ready to be Man handled by RS!
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Originally Posted by woob Fuck. I'm on Extreme and I (just me, not including the rest of my family) have used 245.3GB in the past 31 days.... | I'd like to know what you downloaded to get that much traffic in a single month. Quote:
Originally Posted by tgill because this will have massive implications on us all. | Masive implications on us all? Doesn't affect me or most people I know. I download lots of stuff (legally) and I never hit my bandwidth cap. This only has implications for crooks.
I think I deserve a refund from Shaw and Telus (I use both at home with a dual-wan router for load balancing & failsafe) since I never hit my limits. Why the hell should I pay the same as some asshole down the street who's DL'ing 10 times what I do? Basically I'm subsidizing his internet access by paying the same monthly fee as him.
I don't understand why people seem to think that they have the right to use more than what they pay for or get mad when an ISP wants to charge for going over bandwidth limits. If you're a consumer and you consume more than the person next door to you then you should pay more. Seems pretty damn simple to me.
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12-19-2010, 03:10 PM
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#32 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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just downloading content from netflix the PSN store buying games from Steam or the EA Store etc etc hits the cap if not surpasses it
why do you think the rest of the world has increased caps and speeds and lowered prices?? to support the 1990 internet user that just browses websites? no to support the 21st century user since everything has moved or is moving to a internet based system
what Shaw is doing is turning the clock back instead of where they should be moving it
we need competition we need a Wind Mobile/Mobilicity for the internet
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12-19-2010, 03:26 PM
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#33 | | Hyde's Understudy
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fuck telus optik
they aren't available in richmond
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12-19-2010, 03:57 PM
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#34 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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Everything will be pretty much cloud base soon. And it will cost us more bandwidth than back in 1999. Shaw need to understand that technology is changing so is the internet. We got music stream, video chat, netflix, psn, xbox live, itune, etc etc. And if you have more than 1 member in the family that uses these service than is gonna add up. For me, i don't like these change at all. Since i share the net among the family, it doesn't benefit the consumer one bit with this feature. What the company need to do is keep the customer. Not put a cap in it and piss them off. I've been with shaw right at the very start ever since they introduce cable internet. And after this long period of times with shaw, I see or feel very little increased benefit gain. The best gain we got was the 5Mbps increase on the internet extreme. I wish novus is available in my area.
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12-19-2010, 04:04 PM
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#35 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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Originally Posted by BlackZRoadster fuck telus optik
they aren't available in richmond | What area of Richmond ? Posted via RS Mobile | |
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12-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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#36 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by dangonay I'd like to know what you downloaded to get that much traffic in a single month.
Masive implications on us all? Doesn't affect me or most people I know. I download lots of stuff (legally) and I never hit my bandwidth cap. This only has implications for crooks.
I think I deserve a refund from Shaw and Telus (I use both at home with a dual-wan router for load balancing & failsafe) since I never hit my limits. Why the hell should I pay the same as some asshole down the street who's DL'ing 10 times what I do? Basically I'm subsidizing his internet access by paying the same monthly fee as him.
I don't understand why people seem to think that they have the right to use more than what they pay for or get mad when an ISP wants to charge for going over bandwidth limits. If you're a consumer and you consume more than the person next door to you then you should pay more. Seems pretty damn simple to me. | Do you use NETFLIX, watch youtuve video, watch TV shows through programs like PBS, download games (wow update alone for the latest expansion alone over 4GB NOT TO mention all the other major patch they have up).
Please face reality. People are moving towards Digital TV. SHAW saw this and they know it will hurt their over price TV package. Instead of trying to improve their service they simply restrict the INTERENT so people have to stay with them for their crappy cable service.
Peter Bissonnette who runs SHAW personality said " The reason NETFLIX can offer their service at $8.99 is because they have no cost other than acquiring the content." That just made me LOL. First Netflix will need a very very good upstream provider to stream all the HD service to you, they will need huge server running to store and send the data to the upstream provider and to store their movies/TV shows, they will need a database to keep track of their customer...........
One of the reason why SHAW doing this now is becasue we all know maybe in the next few years more and more people will using the Internet for their TV content rather than through cable. So rather then trying to stop the issue in the future SHAW is stopping the whole thing now.
But honestly the CRTC is to blame for this as well. They allow bell to do this and they don't allow any non Canadian company to enter into the whole Communication market which created this whole mess. Not to mention SHAW and Rogers sing a contract in which SHAW will not operate in the eastern side of Canada while Rogers will not operate in Western side. Guess what lol. SHAW bought out Mountain cable which is in the Eastern side and Rogers went to court to sue them them. The Better Business Barue got invole and pretty say what ROGERS and SHAW did is illegal and both could get sue for it as it does not create a competition in the market.
SHAW will try to put any competitor out of business. Remember last year 995 deal where SHAW offer their absolute TV with free HD PVR rental, High speed Interent and SHAW home phone with long distance included and each service would only cost $9.95 each for one year? This offer is only given to building where there is NOVUS service. If you call or talk to a SHAW the will either outright lie to you saying there is no such promo, or the promo is only offer is certain area, or even straight out tell you to fuck off.
Sure it doesn't affect you now but it will in the future and when it comes that time don't QQ.
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12-19-2010, 04:29 PM
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#37 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by dangonay I'd like to know what you downloaded to get that much traffic in a single month. | Nice try, MPAA.
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12-19-2010, 06:15 PM
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#38 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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So they lowered the bandwidth cap for all services yet still charges us the same price? What is the justification in that? I thought the whole internet movement is going forward not backward.
What a bunch of greedy fucks - J. R. Shaw and Bradley S. Shaw. This is really pissing me off. Like you always have to wait 1 - 2 hours to get some customer service guy answer a phone call when you need the help, but this really gets me to think about downgrading some my services and move them to Shaw's competitors.
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12-19-2010, 06:33 PM
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#39 | | WOAH! i think Vtec just kicked in!
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Originally Posted by willystyle This is BS, we need more competition. Having Telus and Shaw as the only 2 major players in town just isn't right. | Government probably has some bullshit law preventing major U.S. providers coming into Canada. Because they would say that we have to protect our Canadian jobs and economy, while turning a blind eye on Shaw, Rogers, and Telus raping all of us in the butt.
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12-19-2010, 07:25 PM
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#40 | | Hyde's Understudy
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Originally Posted by sunny_j | near garden city and westminster
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12-19-2010, 07:29 PM
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#41 | | Got MOD?
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Hmm anyone have Telus Optik High Speed Turbo? I'm thinking of switching to that now because of this. It's only a bit more but includes 250gb and digital TV as well as a free xbox 360. Telus site says optik is available but optik turbo isn't. Maybe I'll give them a call.
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12-19-2010, 10:45 PM
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#42 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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i think optik turbo is only if the building or area has fibre
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12-19-2010, 11:16 PM
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#43 | | MOD
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i should be good with 100gb/month 
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12-20-2010, 06:22 AM
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#44 | | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Gh0stRider i should be good with 100gb/month
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12-20-2010, 08:01 AM
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#45 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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I would be on board with metered bandwidth, as long as the price per GB was reasonable (Say $0.25-0.50 per GB).
It's no different than how we pay our power bills. Use more, pay more, simple and FAIR concept.
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12-20-2010, 09:15 AM
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#46 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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guess i am fucked then, I am on high speed  | |
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12-20-2010, 09:16 AM
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#47 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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I download about 150-250gigs a month worth of HD stuff.
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12-20-2010, 03:36 PM
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#48 | | i like gifs
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Originally Posted by !MiKrofT Hmm anyone have Telus Optik High Speed Turbo? I'm thinking of switching to that now because of this. It's only a bit more but includes 250gb and digital TV as well as a free xbox 360. Telus site says optik is available but optik turbo isn't. Maybe I'll give them a call. | I'm seriously considering switching as well since we received that $15/internet, $15/phone, $15/cable offer in the mail from Telus.
Let me know with what you come up with
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12-20-2010, 03:57 PM
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#49 | | Snapping away
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canada's such a 3rd world country when it comes to connectivity and bandwidth. must be ballin' to be a bully in the telecommunications industry in canada
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12-20-2010, 03:57 PM
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#50 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp Do you use NETFLIX, watch youtuve video, watch TV shows through programs like PBS, download games (wow update alone for the latest expansion alone over 4GB NOT TO mention all the other major patch they have up).
Please face reality. People are moving towards Digital TV. SHAW saw this and they know it will hurt their over price TV package. Instead of trying to improve their service they simply restrict the INTERENT so people have to stay with them for their crappy cable service.
Peter Bissonnette who runs SHAW personality said " The reason NETFLIX can offer their service at $8.99 is because they have no cost other than acquiring the content." That just made me LOL. First Netflix will need a very very good upstream provider to stream all the HD service to you, they will need huge server running to store and send the data to the upstream provider and to store their movies/TV shows, they will need a database to keep track of their customer...........
One of the reason why SHAW doing this now is becasue we all know maybe in the next few years more and more people will using the Internet for their TV content rather than through cable. So rather then trying to stop the issue in the future SHAW is stopping the whole thing now.
But honestly the CRTC is to blame for this as well. They allow bell to do this and they don't allow any non Canadian company to enter into the whole Communication market which created this whole mess. Not to mention SHAW and Rogers sing a contract in which SHAW will not operate in the eastern side of Canada while Rogers will not operate in Western side. Guess what lol. SHAW bought out Mountain cable which is in the Eastern side and Rogers went to court to sue them them. The Better Business Barue got invole and pretty say what ROGERS and SHAW did is illegal and both could get sue for it as it does not create a competition in the market.
SHAW will try to put any competitor out of business. Remember last year 995 deal where SHAW offer their absolute TV with free HD PVR rental, High speed Interent and SHAW home phone with long distance included and each service would only cost $9.95 each for one year? This offer is only given to building where there is NOVUS service. If you call or talk to a SHAW the will either outright lie to you saying there is no such promo, or the promo is only offer is certain area, or even straight out tell you to fuck off.
Sure it doesn't affect you now but it will in the future and when it comes that time don't QQ. | Nothing in this post explains why metered bandwidth is not a good idea, you just made a big rant about Shaw playing monopoly.
I don't use netflix (Nor do I ever plan to, I didn't buy a 52" 1080P TV to watch compressed downloaded shit that I have pay for) or play Wow, why should I have to pay the same amount for my usage as someone who DOES use those services?
I'm don't have the anti-piracy hard-on that Dangonay does, but my bill would still go down significantly if I only had to pay for the bandwidth I used.
And if I did decide to use netflix or play Wow in the future, I would be fine with my bill going up because I'm using a service, it takes more bandwidth, and I know that.
Right now a good analogy to your complaint is like you're plugging in a couple of electric space heaters and then complaining to BC Hydro that your power bill went up.
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Last edited by Great68; 12-20-2010 at 04:02 PM.
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