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12-23-2010, 08:27 AM
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#101 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Originally Posted by Vinny G  I thought the issue was that the cap was set at 125gb then it was lowered to 100gb for seemingly no reason?
It's more like you signing up for 500 minutes per month then your cellular company decides that you should only have 400 minutes instead. | ^This
Dangonay, why don't just stop being so fucking narrow minded?
Ppl here are just venting and at the end of the day they will either adjust their usage or switch to telus /end of story.
I don't see why you care so much about shaw unless you own the company.
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12-23-2010, 08:46 AM
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#102 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by dangonay You ever stop to consider that you're the problem (or someone like you downloading far more than they need)? Shaw networks have no trouble keeping up with normal demands (including streaming HD content) to all their customers. Same with Telus, or their Optik service couldn't work.
Anything like what? Complain to a company selling a commodity that you should get unlimited use (or very high limits) without paying anymore than the next guy?
Why not tell your cell phone company that even though you signed up to 500 minutes per month, that if you go over you shouldn't be charged? Or tell BC Hydro that you should be able to use unlimited electricity without getting charged?
If you need more bandwidth than your neighbor, then you should pay more. Shaw and Telus have always had bandwidth caps - they just never really enforced them until now. Why are you complaining? You knew Shaw had a limit - did you think you could get away with going over forever? | LOL if SHAW can't keep their promise with their package (15mbps download and 1mbps up) to all the customers who were assign to that node at any given time then it is their fault. Image you bought a ticket for a concert and it sells 10k tickets but only have enough room for say 8k people because they expect the other 2k will not show up. Is silly isn't it? SHAW is doing the same thing. Say each node can only support 5000 customer at their package speed(15mbps down 1mbps up) however SHAW decides to sign 9000 customer to that node hopping that 4000 customer will either no use their Internet or that the 9000 people won't be online at the same time or that 9000 customer will not download anything big or stream anything.
Really if they say they are able to offer you at the speed you package is on I should be able to get that speed no matter what time of the day it is and that is not happening with SHAW coz their nodes is congested with over signups and not enough upgrades. So to counter this SHAW lower everyone bandwidth and introduce these bandwidth packages and bandwidth uesage hoping to scare everyone off so they stop downloading/uploading, therefore SHAW can contiune to sign up even more people on the same node and don't have to spend a penny in upgrading their hardware.
Let's give a easier ecample say you are Fido and you got the 5GB data package, 200min daytime, UNLIMITED evenings and weekends starting at 6pm for $40. Now FIDO sign way too many customer and people are using up thier 5GB data uesage and is also using their cell phone to talk more and more after 6pm since it is free. All of a sudden FDIO drops your data plan to 2GB, 100daytime min and unlimited weekends and eveings starts at 9pm. If you want your same service before you have to pay FIDO an extra $20 EACH month. How would you feel then? Wait SHAW just did that to you and feel fine and in fact you fully support it. Good Job!
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12-23-2010, 09:00 AM
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#103 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp
Let's give a easier ecample say you are Fido and you got the 5GB data package, 200min daytime, UNLIMITED evenings and weekends starting at 6pm for $40. Now FIDO sign way too many customer and people are using up thier 5GB data uesage and is also using their cell phone to talk more and more after 6pm since it is free. All of a sudden FDIO drops your data plan to 2GB, 100daytime min and unlimited weekends and eveings starts at 9pm. If you want your same service before you have to pay FIDO an extra $20 EACH month. How would you feel then? Wait SHAW just did that to you and feel fine and in fact you fully support it. Good Job!
| This is a poor example because most people have contracts with cell companies which regulate how and when companies can change the terms. Unless you signed a contract with Shaw (which is a small minority of users), they are free to change the terms of their service.
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12-23-2010, 09:43 AM
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#104 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by Tapioca This is a poor example because most people have contracts with cell companies which regulate how and when companies can change the terms. Unless you signed a contract with Shaw (which is a small minority of users), they are free to change the terms of their service. | I singed with shaw right when they started there service. Went to there open house at a local high school and the guy doing the presentation kept saying unlimited internet. The day they installed it I signed a contract and there was no mention of a cap.
Shaw got into a business when all people were doing is checking e-mails and surfing the web. Shaw did not plan ahead. Shaw got caught with there pants down.
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12-23-2010, 05:09 PM
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#105 | | Proud to be called a RS Regular!
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I always thought it was unlimited o.O
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12-23-2010, 07:05 PM
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#106 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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theres that * as the catch on the bottom
*we can change anything on this contract just to screw you over...
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12-23-2010, 07:23 PM
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#107 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp LOL if SHAW can't keep their promise with their package (15mbps download and 1mbps up) to all the customers who were assign to that node at any given time then it is their fault. | i don't recall any of shaw's advertisement said guarantee 15mb down 1mb up. i remember it only say up to =\
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12-23-2010, 07:25 PM
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#108 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Manic! I singed with shaw right when they started there service. Went to there open house at a local high school and the guy doing the presentation kept saying unlimited internet. The day they installed it I signed a contract and there was no mention of a cap.
Shaw got into a business when all people were doing is checking e-mails and surfing the web. Shaw did not plan ahead. Shaw got caught with there pants down. | you sure you signed up with shaw and not rogers? shaw never did have contracts even when they first started up. and they didn't really start up. they just took over rogers in a swap from east to west
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12-23-2010, 09:46 PM
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#109 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by dangonay Nice try, crook. | Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay woob (crook) | whoawhoawhoa guy, when did this get personal? Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay You just admitted to downloading 245GB in one month. | Quote:
Originally Posted by woob I ... have used 245.3GB in the past 31 days.... | used != downloaded. Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay Using Netflix HD content as an example, that's about 145 hours of content. A full time job is 160 hours per month. So you spend as much time in front of the TV as a full time job? | Your wording seems to imply a disdain for that amount of television. And while I agree that excess amounts of anything can be bad, everyone has a vice, and I just can't stand commercials  . Also, downloading a certain amount in one month does not necessarily mean watching all of it in one month. Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay You are nothing more than a digital pack rat. | I am a pack rat physically too. You should see my room. I still have high school physics exams in my closet. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tapioca Maybe everyone here watches stuff on HBO and AMC (Entourage, Dexter, Mad Men, etc.), which then I can understand the need to stream. | Don't forget Breaking Bad!  Quote:
Originally Posted by dangonay Why would any of you pay for Netflix anyway? They have a much poorer selection than what you can get off a torrent, and with a torrent you get to keep the movie/TV show on your drive instead of having to stream it every time you want to watch it. | People pay for Netflix because it is legal. The content found on most torrent sites is not.
So you call me a crook knowing nothing about me other than the fact that I've used 245GB of bandwidth, yet you denounce Netflix, a legal way that can take an average internet user easily past the cap. Seems like you're arguing with yourself.
Anyways, brb Mad Men on Netflix.
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12-24-2010, 12:53 AM
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#110 | | I STILL don't get it
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Would you guys consider changing to telus optik TV and internet?
Right now im on shaw high speed getting average 10mp/s (higher at night)
not sure how fast the optik would be because it says up to 15mbps but the 25 mbps high speed turbo isn't in my area....
Optik TV Your Pick HD (3 year term)
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12-24-2010, 10:23 AM
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#111 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
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Originally Posted by asdfpic Would you guys consider changing to telus optik TV and internet?
Right now im on shaw high speed getting average 10mp/s (higher at night)
not sure how fast the optik would be because it says up to 15mbps but the 25 mbps high speed turbo isn't in my area....
Optik TV Your Pick HD (3 year term)
FREE HD PVR rental
Optik High Speed (2 year term)
FREE Xbox 360®
$65/mo for 3 months ($112/mo. thereafter) | This would be what I was planning on getting.
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12-24-2010, 12:18 PM
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#112 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by terkan you sure you signed up with shaw and not rogers? shaw never did have contracts even when they first started up. and they didn't really start up. they just took over rogers in a swap from east to west | Never had roger internet or TV in Nanaimo and yes I signed up when the installer came to install it. This was when cable internet had just come out.
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12-24-2010, 12:19 PM
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#113 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Everyone thinking of switching to Telus should wait and do it on mas all on the same day.
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12-24-2010, 12:35 PM
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#114 | | Got MOD?
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I wonder if I can pay for the Telus Optik Turbo bundle while getting Optik speeds. I don't care about 25mbps. Just want the 250gb cap. | |
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12-24-2010, 04:11 PM
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#115 | | Ready to be Man handled by RS!
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Originally Posted by Vinny G I thought the issue was that the cap was set at 125gb then it was lowered to 100gb for seemingly no reason?
It's more like you signing up for 500 minutes per month then your cellular company decides that you should only have 400 minutes instead. | That's not the issue at all. The issue is Shaw is now going to be charging for overages (after 2 months of warnings) where in the past they did not.
Doesn't matter anyway - the people bitching here (and on other forums) use WAY more bandwidth than even the previous limits. Why complain about a limit going from 125 to 100 when you still use 200+ anyway? It's being billed for the extra that's got the downloaders so upset.
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12-24-2010, 04:15 PM
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To those using Netflix (which I think sucks as it has a poor movie selection), why not go to your account page where it shows your history at the bottom? Take a screen shot and blur out your personal details (maybe leave only your first name). Then we can see how much bandwidth you are actually using, based on your viewing habits. If you're going to use Netflix as a reason for bitching about bandwidth, then prove that you really watch that much streamed Netflix content. Otherwise, STFU.
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12-24-2010, 05:08 PM
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#117 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Relevant layman-termed website explaining net neutrality: http://www.theopeninter.net/ | |
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12-24-2010, 06:33 PM
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#118 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by dangonay To those using Netflix (which I think sucks as it has a poor movie selection), why not go to your account page where it shows your history at the bottom? Take a screen shot and blur out your personal details (maybe leave only your first name). Then we can see how much bandwidth you are actually using, based on your viewing habits. If you're going to use Netflix as a reason for bitching about bandwidth, then prove that you really watch that much streamed Netflix content. Otherwise, STFU. |
Netflix HD is 5500kbps. You do the math.
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12-25-2010, 06:58 AM
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#119 | | NEWBIE ACCOUNT!
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Originally Posted by dangonay To those using Netflix (which I think sucks as it has a poor movie selection), why not go to your account page where it shows your history at the bottom? Take a screen shot and blur out your personal details (maybe leave only your first name). Then we can see how much bandwidth you are actually using, based on your viewing habits. If you're going to use Netflix as a reason for bitching about bandwidth, then prove that you really watch that much streamed Netflix content. Otherwise, STFU. | I calculated out Netflix streaming of HD content already in another forum. 2 hours a day (average consumers time watching TV/Movies) for 30 days is around 150GB bandwidth, over most accounts from which Shaw offers, forcing an upgrade to your tier, Data Packs, overcharges. http://web.forret.com/tools/filesize...=Kbps&dur=7200 | |
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12-25-2010, 10:35 PM
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How do you check how much you're using?
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12-26-2010, 12:27 AM
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#121 | | I STILL don't get it
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so has this already been implemented? will we be charged for going over our limits for the month of december?
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12-26-2010, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by bestsoup How do you check how much you're using? | I use DU meter. A tool to monitor your bandwidth.
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12-26-2010, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by turb0triX so has this already been implemented? will we be charged for going over our limits for the month of december? | Lots have heard Feb 2011. Who knows though, Shaw isn't what they use to be. They have become pretty sleazy since the changing of the Guard (new CEO).
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12-27-2010, 07:48 AM
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#124 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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i can understand why people are mad that the bandwidth is lowered.. but what i don't get is, most people that are complaining about over the old bandwidth cap anyways. i can see you have a legit beef with shaw if because of the reduction of the bandwidth you are now going over. most of you that are over.. are at least 25-50% over the cap, keep the cap where it is you are still going over.. most of you are really complaining coz you have to pay for the over usage which telus always been charging.
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12-27-2010, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by terkan i can understand why people are mad that the bandwidth is lowered.. but what i don't get is, most people that are complaining about over the old bandwidth cap anyways. i can see you have a legit beef with shaw if because of the reduction of the bandwidth you are now going over. most of you that are over.. are at least 25-50% over the cap, keep the cap where it is you are still going over.. most of you are really complaining coz you have to pay for the over usage which telus always been charging. | The cap is set by Shaw, lowered at will, doesn't even justify or come close to the bandwidth needed in today's digital age. The cap was never an issue when it wasn't enforced. Now Shaw would like to let us believe, "normal' usage is lower than the product they sell, pushing the caps lower than market norm, thus inducing large revenue growth. That is the problem most have, in my opinion.
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