2011 Stanley Cup Rioting

[l2_narain]

Originally Posted by GLOW

seriously though, i wouldn't mind her paying back the damage of a new crown vic. after all the VPD hardware you put in to it, it must cost $100k for the car? just guessing. but imagine her criminal record now...gets pulled over, cops runs a check...."arson" and "riot" pop up

crown vics are overpriced but not that overpriced!

[GLOW]

ya it's a wild guess on my part. i figure the cost of fitting out the car with VPD equipment and install is expensive. their touch screen laptop, the mount for it, the front bumper etc.

[xpl0sive]

90 day jail sentence means she will serve 30 with good behavior and get released. Canada still has the 1/3 rule for jail sentences. Worst case she will do 2/3rds or 60 days. Don't get me wrong, even 30 days in jail for "attempting" to torch a car seems a bit extreme. Spending a month in jail would SUCK big time. I've spent a night in a drunk tank a couple of times and let me tell you, it's not fun. I can't imagine being stuck in there for a month.

[Spidey]

Originally Posted by xpl0sive

90 day jail sentence means she will serve 30 with good behavior and get released. Canada still has the 1/3 rule for jail sentences. Worst case she will do 2/3rds or 60 days. Don't get me wrong, even 30 days in jail for "attempting" to torch a car seems a bit extreme. Spending a month in jail would SUCK big time. I've spent a night in a drunk tank a couple of times and let me tell you, it's not fun. I can't imagine being stuck in there for a month.

it may be considered "extreme" to some people but if you look at the CCC, Arson is considered very serious. It is a straight indictable offence. If you "attempt" to commit any criminal offence, you will be charged for the offence, as per section 24 of the CCC.

Attempts

24. (1) Every one who, having an intent to commit an offence, does or omits to do anything for the purpose of carrying out the intention is guilty of an attempt to commit the offence whether or not it was possible under the circumstances to commit the offence.

434. Arson — damage to property

434. Every person who intentionally or recklessly causes damage by fire or explosion to property that is not wholly owned by that person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

The difference between this case and CACNIO is that CACNIO's involvement in the riot was BNE to a business, which can be either summary or indictable.

65. (1) Every one who takes part in a riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

Arson is deemed the most serious when compared to Taking part in a riot, BNE (other than dwelling house), or Mischief.

[Acura604]

do u guys believe this guy?

true? or had 3 yrs to hatch some b.s. story?

Accused in beating of Stanley Cup riot Good Samaritan claims he was only trying to disarm him of long pole ?weapon?


An accused Stanley Cup rioter claiming self-defence reached over two of Robert MacKay’s other assailants to grab at MacKay from behind to throw him to the ground and then kicked him on the ground, Crown told his trial.

Ioannis (Johnny) Kangles has pleaded not guilty to rioting or assaulting MacKay, dubbed one of the Good Samaritans of the June 15, 2011, riot in Vancouver.

Kangles, now 27, told his provincial court trial in Vancouver on Friday he pushed through a crowd to disarm MacKay of a long pole he was using “as a weapon” against the crowd in front of the Bay.

Crown prosecutor Rod Flannigan alleged Kangles was among a mob who swarmed MacKay, striking him once and kicking him once, which he denied.

“The whole purpose was to get the weapon out of his hands and then I left,” he testified.

After being shown video of him grabbing MacKay with two hands and pulling him to the ground while MacKay held up both hands over his head to ward off the punches of several rioters, Kangles denied he attacked the man.

“You just saw this crowd beating him and you just wanted a piece of it,” said Flannigan.

“No, I didn’t. That’s disgusting,” he said.

Kangles also told Judge Greg Rideout the video was “hard to watch. Because I feel bad about what happened.”

He also said he waded into the melee with no thought for his own safety because he saw someone swinging a weapon.

“Personally, I didn’t feel very threatened, it was more for the well-being of others,” he said.

Also on trial are Carlos Barahona Villeda, Michael MacDonald and David Leonati, all of whom pleaded not guilty to assault and rioting. Most of the dozens of other rioters charged have pleaded guilty.

Kangles also testified he walked toward downtown after watching the game at a theatre at Seymour and Davie streets, and that he and his friends didn’t intend to watch the riot but only wanted to get back to his car at Main and Prior streets.

Crown is alleging MacDonald struck MacKay with 12 blows, Barahona Villeda struck him twice and Leonati kicked him once.

Seven other rioters have pleaded guilty to taking part in the same assault and to rioting: Nathan Blake, 24, was sentenced to eight months in jail; Robert Timleck, 25, to seven months; John Mahoney, Robert Dack and Brandon Wise to five months each; and Tanner Beddow to 68 days. Armando Garcia is to be sentenced later this month.

About a third of those rioters who pleaded guilty to various charges have been jailed in custody, the longest for 20 months.

[xpl0sive]

Doesn't matter if you believe him. If his story creates enough reasonable doubt about his guilt, he gets off. Same goes for the others involved who pleaded not guilty. I feel bad for the suckers who got talked into pleading guilty hoping for a break, instead they got made examples of and sent to jail.
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[TPMarko]

i don't feel bad. if they don't want to go to jail or made an example, then don't do stupid shit. looks like this guy and his lawyer though have figured a way to possibly get out of trouble. we'll see what happens though.

[xpl0sive]

Originally Posted by Spidey

it may be considered "extreme" to some people but if you look at the CCC, Arson is considered very serious. It is a straight indictable offence. If you "attempt" to commit any criminal offence, you will be charged for the offence, as per section 24 of the CCC.

Attempts

24. (1) Every one who, having an intent to commit an offence, does or omits to do anything for the purpose of carrying out the intention is guilty of an attempt to commit the offence whether or not it was possible under the circumstances to commit the offence.

434. Arson — damage to property

434. Every person who intentionally or recklessly causes damage by fire or explosion to property that is not wholly owned by that person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.

The difference between this case and CACNIO is that CACNIO's involvement in the riot was BNE to a business, which can be either summary or indictable.

65. (1) Every one who takes part in a riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

Arson is deemed the most serious when compared to Taking part in a riot, BNE (other than dwelling house), or Mischief.

attempting to commit an office and committing an offence are not the same thing. it says so right there, in the paragraph you quoted:

24. (1)Every one who, having an intent to commit an offence, does or omits to do anything for the purpose of carrying out the intention is guilty of an attempt to commit the offence whether or not it was possible under the circumstances to commit the offence.

If it was the same thing, it would say guilty of committing the offence

[Spidey]

Originally Posted by xpl0sive

attempting to commit an office and committing an offence are not the same thing. it says so right there, in the paragraph you quoted:

24. (1)Every one who, having an intent to commit an offence, does or omits to do anything for the purpose of carrying out the intention is guilty of an attempt to commit the offence whether or not it was possible under the circumstances to commit the offence.

If it was the same thing, it would say guilty of committing the offence

Do you see the punishment for so called "attempt" under that section? No. Therefore the punishment will fall under the actual offence that was attempted. Ie. If you are found guilty in an attempt to commit Fraud, the punishment would be for Fraud and not "attempt to commit offence".

[wingies]

Glad this fucker was found guilty, pray that he gets jailtime

Stanley Cup rioter found guilty of assaulting firefighter, police officer - B.C. - Times Colonist

[Ronin]

Lots of people pleading guilty. I got a bunch of notices saying I don't need to show up to court because the defendants pleaded guilty or no contest or whatever.

[meme405]

Well almost 5 years later and we are still talking about this:

Stanley Cup riot prosecution not slow says Crown - British Columbia - CBC News

Thoughts on the entire process?

Shocking that the process has cost us more than the value of the damage in order to process what 10% of the participants? Bureaucrats...

I also find it hilarious that the Crown is citing the fact that these 300 people being charged will prove to people in the future that they will be responsible for their actions in events such as this. Nobody learned a thing or remembered a thing from the 94 riots, they wont remember sweet fuck all from the 2011 riot. It's gonna be a new generation of degenerates next time around and they will probably do the same Bullshit. Can't fix stupid.

[twitchyzero]

how many people were prosecuted from the '94 riot? it only says 100 hour of footage was obtained then.

[Verdasco]

oh who remembered jason li...... his life ruined after that or still in UBC?

[vixroar]

Originally Posted by Verdasco

oh who remembered jason li...... his life ruined after that or still in UBC?

He inspired a comic book cover lol.



Source: Wolverine comic book cover pokes fun at Canucks riot kid

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

how many people were prosecuted from the '94 riot? it only says 100 hour of footage was obtained then.

I think mostly what's remember from that was the tard shot in the head with the rubber bullet

[ImportPsycho]

Originally Posted by meme405

Nobody learned a thing or remembered a thing from the 94 riots, they wont remember sweet fuck all from the 2011 riot. It's gonna be a new generation of degenerates next time around and they will probably do the same Bullshit. Can't fix stupid.

maybe... but in 94, there was no internet and smart phones lol
no phones to take quick photo and no FB to publicly shame them.
that girl's life would've been less of fk up if her face wasn't all over the internet and social media.
Nowadays, cameras are seriously everywhere

[Razor Ramon HG]

Originally Posted by Verdasco

oh who remembered jason li...... his life ruined after that or still in UBC?

I'm curious too

[FerrariEnzo]

ABBOTSFORD (NEWS 1130) – A week after a judge handed a man three years in jail for crimes committed during the Stanley Cup riot in 2011, 30-year-old William Fisher has died in the hospital.

Fisher was found guilty on a series of charges including taking part in a riot, aggravated assault and break and enter and was also found guilty of assaulting a Good Samaritan during the riot.

He was an inmate at a prison in Abbotsford but died in a hospital in New Westminster. Corrections Canada is looking into his death.

Stanley Cup rioter sentenced last week dies in hospital - NEWS 1130

[Timpo]

Man serving three-year sentence for Stanley Cup riot dies in B.C. hospital

By Staff The Canadian Press
February 27, 2016 5:43 am

Man serving three-year sentence for Stanley Cup riot dies in B.C. hospital | Globalnews.ca



VIDEO: http://globalnews.ca/video/embed/2544731/

VANCOUVER – Correctional Service Canada says a 30-year-old man who was sentenced last week for crimes he committed during the 2011 Stanley Cup riot has died in hospital.

William Fisher was sentenced on Feb. 19 to three years in prison after being found guilty on a series of charges including taking part in a riot, aggravated assault and break and enter.

He was an inmate at Pacific Institution in Abbotsford and died at a hospital in New Westminster on Thursday.

His next-of-kin have been notified and there is no word on the cause of death.

The police and coroner have been notified and the Correctional Service says it will review the circumstances of the incident.

British Columbia’s Justice Minister Suzanne Anton said last week that Fisher’s sentence was the toughest handed out for crimes committed during the melee.

[XplicitLuder]

Originally Posted by Timpo

Man serving three-year sentence for Stanley Cup riot dies in B.C. hospital

learn2fucking look a post up before posting fuckkkk

[Mr.Money]

who thinks the mother fucker got shanked for messing with the wrong person?

[westopher]

Probably offed himself to be honest.

[Timpo]

ICBC wins lawsuit against Stanley Cup rioters who damaged vehicles
KEITH FRASER | THE PROVINCE
JUNE 17, 2016 06:04 PM

ICBC wins lawsuit against Stanley Cup rioters who damaged vehicles


People flip a vehicle during a riot in Vancouver on June 15, 2011. Photograph By Vancouver Sun

VANCOUVER — Nine out of 10 Stanley Cup rioters who were taken to court by ICBC have been found liable for damages they did to vehicles during the riot.

The insurance corporation, which was seeking to be recompensed for payments it had made to the insured owners of the vehicles, filed lawsuits against a total of 82 civil defendants following the June 2011 riot in downtown Vancouver.

Settlements were reached with 37 of those defendants and default judgments were found against another 35. That left 10 defendants who went to trial. Most of them had been convicted separately in criminal proceedings.

In assessing liability at the civil trial, B.C. Supreme Court Justice Elliott Myers noted that it was not the case of a directed or co-ordinated riot, and did not involve gangs coalescing and then moving from location to location in unison.

Participating in the riot in itself did not establish joint or individual liability, meaning the issue needed to be settled by examining vehicle by vehicle, defendant by defendant, said the judge.

Travis Alexander, who was convicted of participating in a riot and sentenced to four months in prison, was found by the judge to be liable in the damage of three vehicles.

He jumped on the roof of a Nissan Versa that was parked outside the Canada Post building on Georgia Street and helped flip it on its side. The vehicle was later destroyed by fire but it was not evident who set it alight, said the judge.

Seven young men — Andrew Comber, Joel Corrigan, Andrew Cuthbert, Jordan Houde, Timothy Lau and two young offenders — were each found liable for doing damage to one vehicle.

Sean Yates, the only defendant who was represented by a lawyer, was alleged to have been involved in damaging four vehicles but the judge found there was insufficient evidence to make out a case against him.

Yates had thrown a mannequin into the window of a burning Audi on Seymour Street, but the vehicle was already destroyed and as his lawyer pointed out, it was the equivalent of “kicking a dead horse,” noted the judge.

A finding that punitive damages were called for was sought by the plaintiff, ICBC, but the judge noted that most of the defendants had been convicted criminally and there was nothing to indicate the penalties they received were inadequate.

“I do not minimize the gravity of the conduct that took place. Watching the videos of the riot was a disturbing exercise because it illustrated a major part of a major city in complete disarray, caused by the intentional acts of the rioters.”

The judge said that the riot showed the delicate line between order and chaos, but the criminal sentences took into account the principles of denunciation and deterrence.

“While it is true, as pointed out by ICBC, that the accused were not charged with offences related to damage to property, I do not see the sentences would have been different had that been the case because the factors that were taken into account in the sentencing included the property damage not only to vehicles but in general.

“On that basis I decline to award punitive damages. There comes a point when “enough is enough”.

The amount of damages each defendant will have to pay will be determined at a later date, taking into account the settlements already reached, said the judge.

[GLOW]

i read that title and was thinking ICBC gonna be like "oh this is gonna be sweeeeeet"