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Old 06-19-2011, 10:25 PM   #2051
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What a joke, this shows that she hasn't learned anything yet and STILL believes that she was innocent by hiding behind alcohol and drunkenness as her reason for stealing.

They need to be punished and be set an example of so that all other idiots out there that may have done the same will now THINK TWICE before they do anything stupid.
It's a joke how they are all using alcohol and drunkenness as a shield, like did someone force you to drink with a gun to your head? you made the choice to go downtown and get wasted and now you have to live with the consequences of that decision. I don't get why they all think claiming to be drunk will work as some get out of jail free card and everyone should just forgive them and move on lol.
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^Exactly. People who kill or rape while under the influence of drugs or alcohol have to live with the consequences. Rioters, under the influence or not should have to take responsibility for their actions.
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Why are they pro-riot? Look at what the riot did to their faces.
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This guy needed a beat down during the riots.

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It's a joke how they are all using alcohol and drunkenness as a shield, like did someone force you to drink with a gun to your head? you made the choice to go downtown and get wasted and now you have to live with the consequences of that decision. I don't get why they all think claiming to be drunk will work as some get out of jail free card and everyone should just forgive them and move on lol.
Just a thought, riots are alcohol fueled.

No riots have ever occurred due to 420.
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
I dunno, to be honest there are times when I kinda have the same feelings as you, but then on the other hand, I think FUCK YOU (not you..the rioters), you treat our city like its a GTA game, no respect, causing and chanting on for MORE damage to our city just so you can have something to do on a weekday night.

Ontop of that, everyone who was there and not defending people/property, single handily are responsible for ruining vancouvers image, even the late night shows are making vancouver jokes now.

That wasn't a quiet in and out shoplifting, that was crime upon epic measures, and they deserve to have epic consequences.

I don't care about what punishment they get in the court of law- most of these people are not career criminals who will benefit from going to jail, some of them are scholars and athletes, im much happier they are instead publicly scrutinized for something so selfish and dumb that is making us a laughing stock.
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i think you have it all wrong...please dont assume i support pro riot comments. I was posting that conversion to expose people like Linh Tee and Buckk Daa Laww and their idiotic pro riot comments and humiliate them to fellow Vancouverites. i think people should be held accountable for what they say and that if they had the audacity to say such thing, then they should feel the heat they'll get for saying something SO disgraceful and disrespectful. and if their employers find out about this, even better.
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
If they ever get charged, judges will actually take that into account.

I remember this woman who lived downtown at the water. There were big trees lining the street, one that was blocking her view - so she decided to poison it, so it would die and get chopped down. Of course, she gets caught - and word spreads. And sure enough, it was the public lynching that really got her. She received death threats, she got shit (literally shit) thrown at her place.

She actually did go to court - and the judge said, you have received enough public humiliation, so I will only fine you the amount it will cost to have a new tree planted.

The woman has since moved because her neighbours would spit at her on the street.


I have a feeling this would happen to anybody who would actually get charged after this is all said and done.
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
In a way they were kinda asking for it? Who asked them to commit such a stupid crime when the world is watching?
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
I for one don't feel sorry at all for any of these rioters/looters. No one gives them the right to damage other people's property or steal things that don't belong to them. If they're out there roaming the streets of downtown they should have some sense of what's right and what's wrong..no excuses. They give us, Vancouverites who are against these riots a bad name and tarnish the reputation of our city. I feel no matter how big or small the crime is they must be punished to the fullest that the law allows. Hopefully it will knock some sense into people in general to think very carefully about the serious consequences before getting "caught up in the moment" and doing something stupid. They all deserve the humiliation they've brought upon themselves, no one else to blame but themselves. Imagine this: inviting someone over to watch the game, we lose or win the game/series and this person goes ape shit in your house breaking things, setting things on fire, stealing stuff from your home and leaving it in a big mess, wouldn't you be pissed? Could you really feel sorry for these kinda people afterwards?
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
Sorry, no more slap on the wrist. This isn't elementary school. Thank you to rioters for apologizing and welcome to jail, assholes.

I would be mad if that water polo kid Nathan ended up getting on a national team. Would that be a fucking joke to Canada? "Former rioter and police vehicle vandal made national team". Don't know about you but I think so.
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I remember this. It was big news and wasn't the woman who carried out the poisoning of the trees a celebrity of some sort? Anyway, she paid quite dearly. Financially, morally, and emotionally. Those trees cost I believe $10,000 or $15,000 - each.
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IMHO the punishment and consequence should somewhat be proportional to the damage/crime done by the individual. The shit that Camille Cacnio girl did was essentially shoplifting, by taking advantage of the chaos during the riot. She probably wouldn't have lost most of her friends, her job, and possibly be expelled from UBC if it was just a regular shoplift, because the media wouldn't blow it up as big as this.

The same goes for the Jason Li kid. For hitting the already-shattered glasses at BMO, he's now become a face of humiliation and his life's course has totally derailed. IMHO this is a LOT more harsh than the jail time or fines that the surrey trashes would be receiving, because this kid probably has much more to lose than those guys.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending the rioters/looters, and I'm glad they're being punished this way. This will make sure that kids in the future would not commit the same mistake. In the mean time, a part of me feel sorry for them, and wished they could have learned this lesson without totally fucking up their lives
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I for one don't feel sorry at all for any of these rioters/looters. No one gives them the right to damage other people's property or steal things that don't belong to them. If they're out there roaming the streets of downtown they should have some sense of what's right and what's wrong..no excuses. They give us, Vancouverites who are against these riots a bad name and tarnish the reputation of our city. I feel no matter how big or small the crime is they must be punished to the fullest that the law allows. Hopefully it will knock some sense into people in general to think very carefully about the serious consequences before getting "caught up in the moment" and doing something stupid. They all deserve the humiliation they've brought upon themselves, no one else to blame but themselves. Imagine this: inviting someone over to watch the game, we lose or win the game/series and this person goes ape shit in your house breaking things, setting things on fire, stealing stuff from your home and leaving it in a big mess, wouldn't you be pissed? Could you really feel sorry for these kinda people afterwards?
^ i feel the same. all these people had to do was use their brains for a few seconds, realize it's wrong, and walk away. using excuses like "i was drunk" and "i got caught up in the moment" are weak, WEAK justifications for their actions. does no one have a moral compass these days? do people really have to spell out what's right and wrong for people ages 16-30? really?
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I'm saying in general. People who are pro-riot around here I will probably remove.



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Sorry kid the only fair I say is for his family paid for the damages he caused, kick out from the canada team for good, and his car and windows of his house get smash.
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Call me a liar but plenty of times I've been in that situation and not thought about it. I don't see a window and decide to break it cause nobody's around just because nobody would know. Lot's of crimes I wouldnt commit just because I could get away with it. For the most part, laws aren't made up just for no reason. Most people innately know that it's wrong. They are essential to the survival of the human race.

If killing each other for no reason was normal we'd all have to be hermits. Or dead.

If we all neglected our children well a human baby is not going to make it.

We co-operate and help each other. Remember we evolved in Africa where every predator is stronger, faster with much better weapons and senses.

edit: anyways I was more in dispute with him saying that there isn't people that would feel guilty enough to admit committing a crime.
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Happy Fathers Day?

Another article about the polo player.

I really hate how the media is portraying this guy as a victim now.
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Another article about the polo player.

I really hate how the media is portraying this guy as a victim now.
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