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good lord... are we gonna start this conversation again? no one cares about the leafs in this thread but you Blaupunkt69. that's just the truth. you can bitch and moan that this is an NHL thread but this is Vancouver. this forum is based in Vancouver. WE can talk about whatever we want to. YOU'RE not a part of that.
the bitching and moaning was done by Canuck fans upset I discussed the Leafs again, so talk to them. I know what this thread is really about, I know the region this forum is based, and I know the hockey allegiance of many of its members and how they feel towards the Leafs and their fans. I am not changing my behaviour and have stated so every time this issue has come up. If people don't like me posting non-Canuck topics in this thread, then I suggest they ignore my posts or stop being hypocrites and stick to strictly Canuck related subjects in this supposed Canucks thread. If they did that, then this issue would not come up. Anyways, back to being a hockey fan and patiently waiting for the season to start.
My favourite game from Grabovski so far - Feb. 15th 4-3 win over the Bruins. Grabo receives 2 big hits from Chara which he later admitted gave him a mild concussion and he goes on to score a beauty game winner.
the bitching and moaning was done by Canuck fans upset I discussed the Leafs again, so talk to them. I know what this thread is really about, I know the region this forum is based, and I know the hockey allegiance of many of its members and how they feel towards the Leafs and their fans. I am not changing my behaviour and have stated so every time this issue has come up. If people don't like me posting non-Canuck topics in this thread, then I suggest they ignore my posts or stop being hypocrites and stick to strictly Canuck related subjects in this supposed Canucks thread. If they did that, then this issue would not come up. Anyways, back to being a hockey fan and patiently waiting for the season to start.
My favourite game from Grabovski so far - Feb. 15th 4-3 win over the Bruins. Grabo receives 2 big hits from Chara which he later admitted gave him a mild concussion and he goes on to score a beauty game winner.
the bitching and moaning was done by Canuck fans upset I discussed the Leafs again, so talk to them. I know what this thread is really about, I know the region this forum is based, and I know the hockey allegiance of many of its members and how they feel towards the Leafs and their fans. I am not changing my behaviour and have stated so every time this issue has come up. If people don't like me posting non-Canuck topics in this thread, then I suggest they ignore my posts or stop being hypocrites and stick to strictly Canuck related subjects in this supposed Canucks thread. If they did that, then this issue would not come up. Anyways, back to being a hockey fan and patiently waiting for the season to start.
My favourite game from Grabovski so far - Feb. 15th 4-3 win over the Bruins. Grabo receives 2 big hits from Chara which he later admitted gave him a mild concussion and he goes on to score a beauty game winner.
THE ROCK: "What's your favorite donut?"
DETECTIVE #2: "Jelly."
THE ROCK: "Oh, you like jelly. Well, jelly's a good one. The Rock says this; write this down. When you leave here, go down to Dunkin Donuts, get the biggest jelly donut you can find!"
(crowd pops louder)
LAWLER: "Oh, no... this guy's a COP!"
THE ROCK: "Write it down. Hold that jelly donut up, SQUEEZE all the jelly out, squeeze all the-- write it down; you like writing things down-- squeeze all the jelly out, and then-- write this down, you don't want to forget this-- TURN that sumbitch sideways, and stick it STRAIGHT UP your CANDY ASS!"
I still wish Kesler was captain. Because when he is out there, you know he'll try and do anything for his team to win
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[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 i find that at vietnamese place they cut ur hair like they cut grass
[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 do u go to vietnamese places for haircuts
kesler started to mature after the C was given to henrik
but he shows more heart than henrik for sure, all i saw was henrik diving in the playoffs.... they pretty much dived away their stanley cup ring
kesler started to mature after the C was given to henrik
but he shows more heart than henrik for sure, all i saw was henrik diving in the playoffs.... they pretty much dived away their stanley cup ring
I wouldn't say they dove away their ring, they just didn't produce when it mattered most. Kesler did.
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THE ROCK: "What's your favorite donut?"
DETECTIVE #2: "Jelly."
THE ROCK: "Oh, you like jelly. Well, jelly's a good one. The Rock says this; write this down. When you leave here, go down to Dunkin Donuts, get the biggest jelly donut you can find!"
(crowd pops louder)
LAWLER: "Oh, no... this guy's a COP!"
THE ROCK: "Write it down. Hold that jelly donut up, SQUEEZE all the jelly out, squeeze all the-- write it down; you like writing things down-- squeeze all the jelly out, and then-- write this down, you don't want to forget this-- TURN that sumbitch sideways, and stick it STRAIGHT UP your CANDY ASS!"
kesler started to mature after the C was given to henrik
but he shows more heart than henrik for sure, all i saw was henrik diving in the playoffs.... they pretty much dived away their stanley cup ring
there is some truth to that in kesler did mature during last summer. i think the story was that mike gillis/av told him to stop the diving/chirping/non sense and just focus on his game....and he goes an scores 40 goals with a Selke on top. He would have been my vote for Conn Smythe had we won.
Sedins should look to Lidstrom. He isn't overly physical like them, but at the same time does not dive nor take repeated shots to the face.
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I wouldn't say they dove away their ring, they just didn't produce when it mattered most. Kesler did.
They were looking for an Emmy, not the Cup
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[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 i find that at vietnamese place they cut ur hair like they cut grass
[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 do u go to vietnamese places for haircuts
I wouldn't say they dove away their ring, they just didn't produce when it mattered most. Kesler did.
Totally not true. When did it matter the most? Possibly the Stanley Cup Finals? Kesler had 1 assist in 7 games. Raffi Torres and Maxim Lappierre had more points than him.
Yah I know he was injured, so was Henrik........ but don't say he produced more... because he simply did not.
good lord... are we gonna start this conversation again? no one cares about the leafs in this thread but you Blaupunkt69. that's just the truth. you can bitch and moan that this is an NHL thread but this is Vancouver. this forum is based in Vancouver. WE can talk about whatever we want to. YOU'RE not a part of that.
kesler started to mature after the C was given to henrik
but he shows more heart than henrik for sure, all i saw was henrik diving in the playoffs.... they pretty much dived away their stanley cup ring
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there is some truth to that in kesler did mature during last summer. i think the story was that mike gillis/av told him to stop the diving/chirping/non sense and just focus on his game....and he goes an scores 40 goals with a Selke on top. He would have been my vote for Conn Smythe had we won.
Sedins should look to Lidstrom. He isn't overly physical like them, but at the same time does not dive nor take repeated shots to the face.
They were looking for an Emmy, not the Cup
I agree that Kesler came into his own once Henrik was named captain, but he's also been vocal about how valuable Mats Sundin was to him learning leadership.
I can't wait for the season to start. Lots of people I've spoken to think the Hawks will be back to their winning ways and LA will also me top 4 in the west. It will definitely be competitive near the top of the conference.
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[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 i find that at vietnamese place they cut ur hair like they cut grass
[23-07, 02:03] shawn79 do u go to vietnamese places for haircuts
kesler started to mature after the C was given to henrik
but he shows more heart than henrik for sure, all i saw was henrik diving in the playoffs.... they pretty much dived away their stanley cup ring
are you guys serious? Kesler is a champ and doesn't need a C on his jersey to know hes a leader, who cares about the C...
what is a definition of "showing more heart?" Are you in the locker room with these guys? The reason why kesler seems like he has more heart is because he has more swaggg. Hank is just a lot more well mannered from how he plays the game to how he presents himself off the ice. Doesn't mean he has less heart, just means how he has a different personality...
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It kinda worked leading upto the finals, the reason the canucks lost is because they can't hit for shit
Also luongo is a waste of money, out performed by tim thomas who probably gets paid 1/3 of what luongo gets paid
Trade luongo for a solid scoring power forward and use schneider <- he's a fucking beast
I'm not even a canucks fan but they're my hometown team, no physical presence = no cup
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It kinda worked leading upto the finals, the reason the canucks lost is because they can't hit for shit
Also luongo is a waste of money, out performed by tim thomas who probably gets paid 1/3 of what luongo gets paid
Trade luongo for a solid scoring power forward and use schneider <- he's a fucking beast I'm not even a canucks fan but they're my hometown team, no physical presence = no cup
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Thomas caphit is $5mill, Lu's cap hit is $5.3mill
Just cause we had no physical presence, it doesn't mean diving to draw penalties was the right thing to do. It's part of the reason why so many other teams hate us.
Thomas caphit is $5mill, Lu's cap hit is $5.3mill
Just cause we had no physical presence, it doesn't mean diving to draw penalties was the right thing to do. It's part of the reason why so many other teams hate us.
i don't see why people would hate the canucks
canucks have alot of talent and drawing penaltys is a legit way to play
i just don't think they're gonna win anytime soon
41 years and no cup says alot about this franchise
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It kinda worked leading upto the finals, the reason the canucks lost is because they can't hit for shit
Also luongo is a waste of money, out performed by tim thomas who probably gets paid 1/3 of what luongo gets paid
Trade luongo for a solid scoring power forward and use schneider <- he's a fucking beast
I'm not even a canucks fan but they're my hometown team, no physical presence = no cup
Simple as that Posted via RS Mobile
They couldn't "hit for shit" cause 2/3 of the team was plagued with injuries and facing a hot goaltender didn't help either. This isn't NHL 12 where you can trade Luongo for just any player . No team would want/be able to take on his contract so he'll be here till 2022, like it or not.
Think about the night of June 15, when the Boston Bruins defeated the Vancouver Canucks in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final. Think about the cars smoldering in the streets of the city. Think about windows being smashed and stores being looted. Think about the clashes with police.
Think about the disgust you felt as the chaos spread.
Now try to remember if, even for a moment, you blamed the National Hockey League for any of it.
Because the city of Vancouver does.
Its report on the riots doesn't scapegoat the NHL but clearly accuses it of having no plan to prevent them during the playoffs. From the Globe & Mail:
"In spite of four Stanley Cup riots in the last five years, [the NHL] has no approach, no policy and no apparent strategy to work with host franchises and municipalities on this issue," says the lengthy internal report to be debated at a special council meeting on Tuesday.
"[This] clearly … threatens the value and perception of their brand."
Yes, clearly. Which is why the Canucks should be relocated to Seattle ASAP, because the NHL is doomed, doomed, doomed as a brand.
Wait, what? That's absurd, you say? C'mon, it's not nearly as absurd as blaming the NHL for the embarrassing failures of local bureaucracy to protect its business community and citizenry from predictable pandemonium.
Here are some fun facts about the Game 7 viewing party on June 15:
• The event itself was co-produced by Brand Live Group, a company that was hired just two days before the Stanley Cup Final began. Not, you know, by the NHL.
• The four large LED screens in Vancouver that broadcasted Game 7 were provided by Fresh Air Cinema, which advertised the event on Facebook. Not, you know, by the NHL.
• As the crowds grew during the Stanley Cup Final, going from a then-record 70,000 for Game 2 to 155,000 for Game 7, police underestimated the size of the crowd for the series finale despite the city (and its mayor) encouraging its growth through hype and street closures. Which is something the NHL, you know, didn't do.
• In addition to that: Didn't Vancouver's own police chief say the riots were the work of "a number of young men and women, disguised as Canucks fans, who were actually criminals and anarchists." And the NHL is supposed to have a policy in place for this?
What the city is arguing here is that any entity that encourages masses of people to gather in the city — not directly, but by simply holding an event — should be responsible for that crowd's action. Which means that, in theory, if civil disobedience arises during an Olympic ice hockey viewing party for the 2014 Sochi Games, it's the IOC's fault.
From CTV, more on the internal report:
The city of Vancouver's internal review recommends the Canucks be part of discussions, along with the NHL and local business groups, to create a "community-based organization to plan, raise money, and oversee any future Fan Zone activation sites."
Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson said leagues like the NBA and NFL take an active role in working with host cities at major events. "I'm very hopeful we see a positive response from the NHL and the Canucks in the event we are in this situation maybe next year," Robertson said. "I'm hopeful we have a real pro-active role coming from the league and the Canucks so that we don't see this kind of situation again."
If the city wants the Canucks to issue a bunch of public service announcements telling their fans not to burn and loot local businesses after playoff games … sure, why not? It's really just those Jumbotron announcements about not throwing garbage on the ice on a grander scale. Maybe there's some cashew-brain who's deterred from turning over a cop car because of it. Not really a big deal.
But the NHL? Riot control is not the League's problem, and the issue here is that Vancouver seeks to make it the League's problem so the blame can be shared if this crap happens for a third time in the city during a Cup Final. "Hey, thanks for pumping millions of extra dollars into our local economy for three months … can you handle crowd control, too?"
There's really nothing the League can do. Or the team. Listen to how LAPD chief Charlie Beck talked about the Lakers' championship "riots":
"I will deal with people who come in and vandalizes and act foolish and take advantage of crowd situations," said Beck. "The reality is we need to change the way people think about how to celebrate. That's the lesson."
The after-event analysis is currently under way, but as Beck indicated, unless people change their thought processes about celebratory activities, events like Thursday's riots will continue to happen even in the face of police efforts.
Yet the NHL needs to get more involved?
Actually, based on the city's findings, there's really only one sure way to prevent rioting in the Stanley Cup Playoffs: Not allowing Canadian teams to participate in them.
The report reads "four Stanley Cup riots in the last five years"; what it meant to say was Edmonton (2006), Montreal (2008), Montreal (2010) and Vancouver (2011). So yes, the NHL can take a very active role in preventing Stanley Cup rioting by not allowing Canadian cities to have nice things.
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. No team would want/be able to take on his contract so he'll be here till 2022, like it or not.
