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Old 11-10-2010, 05:48 AM   #3476
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depends if you want to workout the back only then take it half way down your shin and bring it back up
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depends if you want to workout the back only then take it half way down your shin and bring it back up
so you're saying that if you let the bar rest on the ground you are working your hams and back.. but if you lower it down before it touches the ground you are only working your back? you wanna think about that one more time?
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You cannot workout just your back in DL, its like saying if you go to a certain angle in a bench you wont incoporate your triceps and shoulder.

Deadlifts are called deadlift for a reason, grip, ripe, drop, and repeat. There shouldn't be any momentum.
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:43 PM   #3479
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Old 11-10-2010, 01:46 PM   #3480
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I used to love deadlifts, now they suck for me. I cant get back to where I was before but everything else went up
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:07 PM   #3481
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if you ever see someone deadlift more than 1 rep by not resetting inbetween, their form turns to shit. good way to injure yourself.

kinda turns into a stiff leg deadlift. which is a great exercise, but not what you intended.


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Do I need to deweight between reps of a deadlift?

Yes. What you do as a physique athlete in future years is entirely up to you, but in order to properly learn and reinforce proper technique, you MUST begin all deadlifts from...a "dead" stop, bar on the floor, motionless. It helps to actually let go of the bar between reps.

Watch someone perform a set of 8 "touch-n-go" reps. Specifically, look at their body positioning at the beginning of the first rep, relative to the rest of the repetitions in the set. Notice how the first rep looks very dissimilar to the 2nd rep, as well as all subsequent reps? You only perform 1 proper rep this way, and 7 marginal reps. This is bad news for a novice because the motor skills learned during that 1 proper rep will get overwhelmed by the improper performance during the other 7 reps.

This won't happen in a set of 5 on the basic deadlift when you deweight between reps, unless you are pulling a load that is beyond your capabilities and you fatigue prematurely.

By deweighting, you also (intelligently) limit the amount of weight you can use, because the stretch reflex and the bouncing of the weights off the floor will not occur. This will save your lower back from potential injury.

Pull from the floor, every single set, every single repetition from a dead stop. That's why it's called a dead lift.
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if you ever see someone deadlift more than 1 rep by not resetting inbetween, their form turns to shit. good way to injure yourself.

kinda turns into a stiff leg deadlift. which is a great exercise, but not what you intended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUpM2BrieME

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I do not find that you have to deweight if you are going for reps. The key is to know when you stop when your form is going. Generally, if you are lifting for reps, you are going to stop about 1-2 reps of your MAX since the last 1-2 reps, your form will be compromised. Would you deweight after you squat, bench press, row, and shoulder press?? You could. but you don't. What makes this different. IMO, I think it is personal preference and totally dependant on your fitness goals.

oh yea, and stiff legged deadlifts are the only type of deadlifts i do.
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fucking short people, only has to lift half the distance i do

as foor stiff legged DL, how can you keep your back from bowing that way? they always look like an incomming back injury to me
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i always found stiff leg deads only did hamstrings for me
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fucking short people, only has to lift half the distance i do

as foor stiff legged DL, how can you keep your back from bowing that way? they always look like an incomming back injury to me
stick your ass out and focus on arching the back
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:13 PM   #3487
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fucking short people, only has to lift half the distance i do

as foor stiff legged DL, how can you keep your back from bowing that way? they always look like an incomming back injury to me
you need hip flexibility.. that is why deadlifts (stiff legged) isn't for everyone
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:19 PM   #3488
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doesnt matter how your form is, short people always have an advantage in lifting.
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After trying protein-only in PWO for a while, I went back to almost pure carbs again yesterday, to see if it would make a difference in recover. IMO it made a HUGE difference!

If you do enough reading, you'll see arguments on both sides. But from what I can tell, it's still best to go high carb after a very heavy session, with a bit of protein, then a meal shortly after. It'll keep recovery times short, and let you work harder next time

Or at least it wil help you stay comfortable.

I can also tell me insulin sensitivity is improving.
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^^ that is more or less what i do kinda
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:37 PM   #3491
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But you mean GOOD carbs, right?
(brown rice, sweet potato etc)
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Torrent uses a combination of waxy corn starch and maltodextrin. As far as "good" carbs go, they all increase blood sugar the same way, some just take a bit longer than others. The only really bad one is fructose probably.
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No really big jumps this workout but had a lot more energy after my work out and during
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im pretty sure this whole time i've been doing stiff legged DL instead of regular DL....
i just feel more comfortable doing stiff legged and partly i think its because i have crappy hip flexibility too...
do both DL work the same major muscles cuz i feel stiff legged really works the lower back
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im pretty sure this whole time i've been doing stiff legged DL instead of regular DL....
i just feel more comfortable doing stiff legged and partly i think its because i have crappy hip flexibility too...
do both DL work the same major muscles cuz i feel stiff legged really works the lower back
i do stiff legged because if i wanted my hipes and knees to flex i would be doing squATS.
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Torrent uses a combination of waxy corn starch and maltodextrin. As far as "good" carbs go, they all increase blood sugar the same way, some just take a bit longer than others. The only really bad one is fructose probably.
you said it right there... "some just take a bit longer than others". having simple sugars and refined carbs is not good for you. you may have the genetics to be able to burn it off now, but for most people, it wreaks havoc on your insulin levels.
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can barely move my shoulders around today, yesterday workout was intense ;D
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i have weak legs so when i did reg DL for the first time, I could barely do like 1plate.
then when i do stiff legged, i just pulled off 2 plates yesterday!
but i was in the gym yesterday and just one of the guys from my school was like correcting me and all so i wasn't sure if i was doing it right or not...
good to have some confirmation that i'm not a total idiot in the gym though! haha
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One of my friends said my lower body looks bigger than my upper..never thought that
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