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Old 05-13-2012, 01:42 AM   #16926
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:15 AM   #16927
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:13 AM   #16928
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Yeah, based on what i see from his muscle belly shape, it looks like he did alot of isolation exercises back then
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:41 AM   #16929
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i just worked out and did not eat much, and yeah no squats or deads ahaha
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Old 05-13-2012, 03:20 PM   #16931
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pinn3r believe it or not, i saw my arms grow more in 15 weeks of stronglifts then 6 months of isolation exercises lol so what im saying is get on dat dere ss and youll see grow on everything! specially strength
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i'm 5' 4" haha so i'm pretty damn short .. but i'm still young so i have another few years for potential growth
I know you're probably used to seeing your abs and oblique lines(w.e you call it),but don't worry about the fat, I have never seen my lower abs in my life, YET.

Just keep lifting and eating heavy, no isolations, and like luder said I've seen more growth on 5x5 than anything.
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pinn3r believe it or not, i saw my arms grow more in 15 weeks of stronglifts then 6 months of isolation exercises lol so what im saying is get on dat dere ss and youll see grow on everything! specially strength
I feel fatter on SS even though i'm gaining weight like crazy on this program.
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Doing 5x5 here too and boy, my upper body especially my chest is showing big gains than doing isolation
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:43 PM   #16935
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pinn3r believe it or not, i saw my arms grow more in 15 weeks of stronglifts then 6 months of isolation exercises lol so what im saying is get on dat dere ss and youll see grow on everything! specially strength
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I know you're probably used to seeing your abs and oblique lines(w.e you call it),but don't worry about the fat, I have never seen my lower abs in my life, YET.

Just keep lifting and eating heavy, no isolations, and like luder said I've seen more growth on 5x5 than anything.


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I know you're probably used to seeing your abs and oblique lines(w.e you call it),but don't worry about the fat, I have never seen my lower abs in my life, YET.

Just keep lifting and eating heavy, no isolations, and like luder said I've seen more growth on 5x5 than anything.
I'm the opposite haha, can't see my upper abs.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:28 PM   #16937
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honestly i can't relate to your guys' upper body + arms gains from stronglifts/SS.
i just came out of it looking like a centaur

but then again, i made very little bench/press gains. must have done it wrong
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:40 PM   #16938
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honestly i can't relate to your guys' upper body + arms gains from stronglifts/SS.
i just came out of it looking like a centaur

but then again, i made very little bench/press gains. must have done it wrong
You probably didn't eat enough

200g+ of protein is no joke. You have to work at it every single day.
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starting that program strykn posted, pretty pumped have not done a program since ibb, working out like a bb is getting kinda slow and boring
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I'm trying out Greyskull LP right now. I like this approach better.

Did some modifications though

A:
Flat BB bench 2x5, 1x5+
DB incline bench 2x5, 1x5+
Dips 2x5, 1x5+
BB curls 2xfail

B:
Military press 2x5, 1x5+
DB shoulder press 2x5, 1x5+
Chins 2x5, 1x5+
DB rows 2x5, 1x5+

I'm not a fan of the excessive fat gain on Rippetoe's diet. Even Mehdi doesn't think that's necessary for progression. I think it's much more conscious and reasonable. Lots of fruits and veggies. Carbs only post workout.

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Sorry should have made myself clear, A and B will be rotated but these will be concrete

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Old 05-13-2012, 08:43 PM   #16941
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Damn, Mehdi's English needs some work. "Roman" lettuce, "ground round", etc.

Where are the squats and deadlifts in your workout?
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I'm trying out Greyskull LP right now. I like this approach better.

Did some modifications though

A:
Flat BB bench 2x5, 1x5+
DB incline bench 2x5, 1x5+
Dips 2x5, 1x5+
BB curls 2xfail

B:
Military press 2x5, 1x5+
DB shoulder press 2x5, 1x5+
Chins 2x5, 1x5+
DB rows 2x5, 1x5+

I'm not a fan of the excessive fat gain on Rippetoe's diet. Even Mehdi doesn't think that's necessary for progression.

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I think it's much more conscious and reasonable.
So your modifications were to remove squats and deadlifts?
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Oops! My bad, forgot to mention the program goes like this:

Rotate A/B and do squats/deadlifts at the end on their designated days

Monday
Squat 2x5, 1x5+
Wednesday
Deadlift 1x5
Friday 2x5, 1x5+

so tomorrow my day will look like this:

A:
Flat BB bench 2x5, 1x5+
DB incline bench 2x5, 1x5+
Dips 2x5, 1x5+
BB curls 2xfail
Squats 2x5, 1x5+

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I'm trying out Greyskull LP right now. I like this approach better.

Did some modifications though

A:
Flat BB bench 2x5, 1x5+
DB incline bench 2x5, 1x5+
Dips 2x5, 1x5+
BB curls 2xfail

B:
Military press 2x5, 1x5+
DB shoulder press 2x5, 1x5+
Chins 2x5, 1x5+
DB rows 2x5, 1x5+

I'm not a fan of the excessive fat gain on Rippetoe's diet. Even Mehdi doesn't think that's necessary for progression.

Mehdi's Example Diet:
Spoiler!


I think it's much more conscious and reasonable.
Removing 2 of the big three lifts is not very reasonable...
I suggest just trying out the same program I'm on man if you're really worried about the arm gains.

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If I understood it correctly, I don't think he's really removing them, but rather, rotating them around for each session of the week... Honestly, the program looks fine to me.. Doing compound movements first and putting isolations at the end is essentially what he should be goin for..

You should be fine in terms of the program... Now worry more about executing the proper technique during those exercises so that your muscles are being worked properly.
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Oops! My bad, forgot to mention the program goes like this:

Rotate A/B and do squats/deadlifts at the end on their designated days

Monday
Squat 2x5, 1x5+
Wednesday
Deadlift 1x5
Friday 2x5, 1x5+

so tomorrow my day will look like this:

A:
Flat BB bench 2x5, 1x5+
DB incline bench 2x5, 1x5+
Dips 2x5, 1x5+
BB curls 2xfail
Squats 2x5, 1x5+
Hm interesting, my bad. Did not see this. I guess this could work, just remember to stick to the program if you wanna test the results. Don't give up halfway if you get discouraged.
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Going to start 5x5 today. I'm also considering doing HIIT/cardio in between days. Or does my body need the rest?

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