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Fuck man, comprehension much?
Im sorry maybe there's some comprehension issue on your part???
I don't know how many times i'd have to repeat myself here my pov from the start is from the belief that Zimmerman did more than simply follow trayvon and likely started the fight in their encounter
and given how easily manslaughter has been a conviction in similar cases (unjustly perhaps) he could have been found guilty and because of my pov he should have been found guilty
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The article is like ours? What does that even mean, we are not writing an article,
god you've got to be fucking kidding me...
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I am trying to explain what law is to you.
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you're ignoring my points of me bringing up what i think likely happened and using the law to show Zimmerman would be guilty (i think i may have even stated there's no evidence for him to be guilty but.... in my first few posts) you're making the assumption that im saying george is guilty and its right there in the law maybe this was my fault in my plethora of posts in this thread that my original msg was lost but after repeating myself so much i thought it would have gotten through
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If you read it, you would notice, they do not take my point of view.
(if you read my post i was speaking of the commenters)
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ADDITIONALLY - as I have already mentioned in this thread, and you somehow conveniently keep glossing over, even if he somehow was the first aggressor, Florida law also has an exception 776.041 that states the first aggressor can use that force after they have exhausted their means of escaping if they believe they are in danger of receiving great bodily harm.
and you keep glossing over many points ive made of that my pov that Zimmerman had done much more than his claims (i realize we've no evidence of this)
I'll just end with I agree the evidence isn't there but I hate agreeing to that because of what I feel likely happened and because Zimmerman sought Trayvon out and in the end a 17yr old is dead
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Lol StylinRed got wrecked.
lol you always show up when hurricane does to say just that (so much so in the past i think ur the same guy if not buddies ) the thing is though Hurricane doesnt seem to get my point maybe because im unclear but after repeating myself so much i thought it would get through
StylinRed, you're a smart enough individual, obviously capable of reading and researching.
Unfortunately, you seem to be so stuck in your leftist ways that you are never able to truly look at any subject from an objective perspective while "forming" your opinion.
Sometimes I think you are one of those "truthers"... either way, I loathe your posts.
Good day sir!
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StylinRed, you're a smart enough individual, obviously capable of reading and researching.
Unfortunately, you seem to be so stuck in your leftist ways that you are never able to truly look at any subject from an objective perspective while "forming" your opinion.
Sometimes I think you are one of those "truthers"... either way, I loathe your posts.
We can all have our own opinions based on emotions, personal believes, and opinions, but at the end of the day, ACCORDING TO THE LAW, he was not in the wrong to have shot Trayvon.
If you lived in the states where there are gang/criminal activities, and have a zealousness to ensure your personal safety, you'd be stupid to not own a gun and have it on you whenever possible.
Does that mean Zimmerman got away with murder? I don't think so. He knew exactly what happened, why he pulled the trigger, and he will have to live with that on his conscience for the rest of his life. If you believed in the law of karma - he will pay for this somewhere down the road, assuming he shot Trayvon out of malicious intent.
For now, once again, in the court of law, Zimmerman is not guilty.
lol you always show up when hurricane does to say just that (so much so in the past i think ur the same guy if not buddies ) the thing is though Hurricane doesnt seem to get my point maybe because im unclear but after repeating myself so much i thought it would get through
Listen man, I don't know what you do on a day to day basis, but I can guess that you get there in a short bus. Also, your English is horrid. Pick up a book or something.
It's come to the time that you need to examine your current posting.
One, you need to look and see that if you are the only one defending your side, are you really going to convince someone that you are right and they are wrong?
Two, what do you get out of it?
Three, what relevance will you being right or wrong, or other thread participants being right or wrong have on the events that have actually happened?
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StylinRed:
It's come to the time that you need to examine your current posting.
One, you need to look and see that if you are the only one defending your side, are you really going to convince someone that you are right and they are wrong?
Two, what do you get out of it?
Three, what relevance will you being right or wrong, or other thread participants being right or wrong have on the events that have actually happened?
Oh I'm not saying hurricanes wrong (only wrong if he takes my considerations) I think we're just arguing from different points of view here and it kind of just blew into reply for replying sake
As I've mentioned time and again the evidence isn't there but I still feel he should and could be found guilty of manslaughter based on what I think likely happened and what we see seems to indicate that even though it's not hard evidence. Hurricane just likes to ignore that bit and keep driving the point of the law while ignoring my scenario or he assumed I felt zimmerman should be guilty irl because of my musings without anything to back it up and as I said that may be my fault
But anyway I've ended my replies a few posts back just reiterating and here we are once again
Oh I'm not saying hurricanes wrong (only wrong if he takes my considerations) I think we're just arguing from different points of view here and it kind of just blew into reply for replying sake
As I've mentioned time and again the evidence isn't there but I still feel he should and could be found guilty of manslaughter based on what I think likely happened and what we see seems to indicate that even though it's not hard evidence. Hurricane just likes to ignore that bit and keep driving the point of the law while ignoring my scenario
But anyway I've ended my replies a few posts back just reiterating and here we are once again
Bro, you're the whiniest member of RS.
And don't even put yourself in that pedestal. It doesn't matter whether we're talking about America and it's legal culture, Israel vs Palestine, or just as simple as your local police incidents (The guy who got mauled by police dog for smashing a bus with his skateboard); Historically in RS, you too ignore or just disregard points made against you as biased or misinformed and you hold your own resources and opinions formed as superior. You're doing the exact same thing as the people you're arguing against.
In someways, sometimes you sound just a step below CiC.
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It's no shocker that i've more often than not taken the opposing view to you and in my view you're one of the most angry ppl on rs because you're almost always supporting death, destruction and violence and to add to that you're in the military (so you've got your biases)
and as for your bolded quote of mine maybe you quoted before i edited but the end of sentence reads as this
It's no shocker that i've more often than not taken the opposing view to you and in my view you're one of the most angry ppl on rs because you're almost always supporting death, destruction and violence and to add to that you're in the military (so you've got your biases)
and as for your bolded quote of mine maybe you quoted before i edited but the end of sentence reads as this
Angry how? I'm hardly the most vocal member when it comes to complaining about the Zimmerman case, the Western influence in middle eastern politics, our local police authorities; guess who is though.
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YOU
And just because I don't support your ultra-leftist views then I must be in support of death, destruction and violence? That's some pretty radical and extreme argumentative devices you've got there.
Oh, and I'm not in the military. You might need to check your ultra-superior, unbiased, ultra-comprehensive, infallable information resources again there broski.
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Angry how?
just the feel i get from reading whenever i read a post by you but its not like i keep tabs unlike...
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And just because I don't support your ultra-leftist views then I must be in support of death, destruction and violence? That's some pretty radical and extreme argumentative devices you've got there.
just the feel i get from your posts in the past on topics regarding death/violence/destruction
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Oh, and I'm not in the military.
my mistake then thought you were, maybe i confused you with jd13 cuz of the macross pic
Edit, also if any of you would like to continue this back and forth about why you don't like me, my views, etc take it to pm please or fc we've derailed this thread enough and I won't be responding to anymore posts regarding me
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A Florida man acquitted of murder in the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager has been arrested on charges he pointed a shotgun at his girlfriend.
George Zimmerman, 30, has been jailed in Seminole County, Florida.
Mr Zimmerman was charged with felony aggravated assault, battery, domestic violence and criminal mischief, a sheriff's office spokesman said.
In July, a jury cleared Mr Zimmerman of the February 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, 17.
Since then, Mr Zimmerman has had other brushes with police, including an incident in October when he was briefly detained following a domestic disturbance at the home of his estranged wife, Shellie.
On Monday, a spokesman for the Seminole County sheriff's department said Mr Zimmerman was arrested on Monday morning and confined to a single-person 64 sq ft (6 sq metre) cell - standard treatment for "high-profile" defendants.
About 12:30 local time (17:30 GMT), sheriff's deputies responded to an emergency call at a house in Apopka, Florida.
Mr Zimmerman's girlfriend said they had argued, and he had broken a glass table in the living room, then retrieved a shotgun and pointed it at her. He then pushed her out the front door and barricaded himself inside, police said.
She was not injured, police said.
The sheriff's office spokesman said investigators believed Mr Zimmerman and his girlfriend had lived together since August and had been arguing about breaking up.
He said Mr Zimmerman was not armed when police arrived and did not resist arrest.
Mr Zimmerman's acquittal of second-degree murder over the killing of Martin sparked a fierce debate about racial profiling and gun culture in the US.
Mr Zimmerman shot dead the teenager, who was unarmed and walking at night toward his father's house. He said the boy had attacked him.
Following the verdict, protest marches were staged across the US including San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago, Washington and Atlanta.
US President Barack Obama said the incident was a "tragedy" which should prompt national soul-searching.
The only reason this is news is because its Zimmerman.
I don't think any reasonable people were saying he is a great guy during the trial. It would be pretty much impossible to know that.
But not being a great person does not equal murderer. Pointing a gun at someone also unfortunately does not equal murderer.
The media is doing a good job of sensationalizing the story already, but how do you convict someone of a felony, if there is no evidence, and its your word against theirs. She says he pointed a gun at her, he says he didn't, cops arrive to find no weapons in anyone's possession....good luck with that. Perhaps there are more details we don't know about.
Don't really care. I was simply responding to The7even who implied that because Zimmerman stopped to help someone out it somehow proves he's a good guy. I just wondered what he thought now.
This guy is a piece of shit. The apologists for this guy are pretty clear to their reasons for defending this piece of shit. I've never heard of a guy getting so many damn chances, these gun and police issues this idiot is involved in is certainly a trend.
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(so much so in the past i think ur the same guy if not buddies 
) the thing is though Hurricane doesnt seem to get my point maybe because im unclear but after repeating myself so much i thought it would get through
