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06-17-2025, 11:31 AM
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#10851 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Agreed with Traum here. 9th gen civic is a fantastic commuter car.. but the Si is truly awful. it's L A M E
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06-17-2025, 12:20 PM
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#10852 | | RabidMod
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Originally Posted by roastpuff  I uh, I might've gone over 9000.
In an AP2 engine.
Yeah. | A lot over or a little over?
Some folks on the forums actually swap AP1 ECUs into their AP2s to unlock the 9000rpm redline. Anecdotally, it seems ok for once-in-a-blue-moon street use. Just not for sustained track use lol.
So you might be ok!
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06-17-2025, 12:58 PM
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#10853 | | Performance Moderator
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Originally Posted by roastpuff I uh, I might've gone over 9000.
In an AP2 engine.
Yeah. | Money shift or trying to stretch out a gear on a straightaway at a/x??
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06-17-2025, 01:06 PM
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#10854 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by RabidRat A lot over or a little over?
Some folks on the forums actually swap AP1 ECUs into their AP2s to unlock the 9000rpm redline. Anecdotally, it seems ok for once-in-a-blue-moon street use. Just not for sustained track use lol.
So you might be ok! | I'm thinking quite a bit over - was shifting from 4th into 5th at the end of the Ridge straight (160kph), but went into 3rd instead for a brief moment before I caught it and clutched out.
Was told that AP2 valvetrain/retainers are good for 9.8k RPM or so, so hopefully no lasting damage beyond brown pants for me. Quote:
Originally Posted by 68style Money shift or trying to stretch out a gear on a straightaway at a/x?? | Went into 3rd instead of 5th at 160kph. 
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"? | | |
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06-17-2025, 01:07 PM
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#10855 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Damn daniel
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06-17-2025, 01:14 PM
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#10856 | | Performance Moderator
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Valves to the stratosphere! Hopefully you caught it in time
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06-17-2025, 01:19 PM
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#10857 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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How much is that s2k engine rebuild ?
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06-17-2025, 01:34 PM
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#10858 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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Per stage auto center, sustained operation at 8.7& RPM actually worse than getting to 9500-10k once. You’re fine.
Rebuilt F20/22 don’t last - FRM liner, crankshaft weight matching, etc make it not worth doing. Buy a used one or crate motor.
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06-17-2025, 01:40 PM
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#10859 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by Badhobz How much is that s2k engine rebuild ? | Not worth rebuilding maybe. Go K-swap if it blows. Quote:
Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD Per stage auto center, sustained operation at 8.7& RPM actually worse than getting to 9500-10k once. You’re fine.
Rebuilt F20/22 don’t last - FRM liner, crankshaft weight matching, etc make it not worth doing. Buy a used one or crate motor. | No crunchy noises, no weirdness in the session after so probably OK.
I'd probably K-swap if it goes.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"? | | |
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06-17-2025, 02:32 PM
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#10860 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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K swap cost roughly ends up being the same as a used F engine … thought about this too.
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06-17-2025, 03:07 PM
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#10861 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Yes but K-swap is easier to source, and has more power potential - you can get 230-240whp out of a K without too much difficulty.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"? | | |
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06-17-2025, 03:17 PM
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#10862 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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yeah but if you ever sell the s2k, having its original engine is worth that much more $$$ than a k swap.
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06-17-2025, 03:24 PM
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#10863 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by Badhobz yeah but if you ever sell the s2k, having its original engine is worth that much more $$$ than a k swap. | My S2000 is already worth jack squat because it already has AP2 engine in AP1 body and over 250k kms. Haha.
This car is the definition of track rat.
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"? | | |
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06-17-2025, 06:05 PM
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#10864 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by underscore If you have a shop vac you can put the hose on the outlet so it's blowing out, stick it in the tailpipe and seal it up a bit (not fully) and you can feel for leaks without having the engine running and making the pipe heat up. | This worked surprisingly well but neither of the holes I welded shut fixed the problem lol. Only gets loud when it's warmed up so I'm gonna changing some gaskets.
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06-18-2025, 12:14 PM
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#10865 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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did you spin out on the money shift
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06-18-2025, 02:15 PM
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#10866 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Gerbs did you spin out on the money shift | No he didn't end up in a ditch if that's what you're asking bahahah
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06-18-2025, 03:29 PM
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#10867 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by Gerbs did you spin out on the money shift | I did not, but brown streaks everywhere. 
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Originally Posted by PeanutButter Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"? | | |
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06-18-2025, 11:35 PM
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#10868 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Now that I don't drive my car, ironically my green P *E* 7 *46M* plate bothers me more than before. Finally got so fed up with it and completed my collection with the Purcell Mtns plate. Attached them with the Mugen plate bolts that I've had for like 2 years but never used lol.
Damn OEM mounting point really had to be gaped out.. she tighter than a repressed virgin Catholic girl. 
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06-19-2025, 06:15 AM
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#10869 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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woah! Those look like fancy bolts.
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06-19-2025, 11:17 PM
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#10870 | | Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated
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Originally Posted by roastpuff My S2000 is already worth jack squat because it already has AP2 engine in AP1 body and over 250k kms. Haha.
This car is the definition of track rat. | S2000 is pure smile fuel... one of my favourite cars of all time. Had so many good memories with my supercharged, 357 rwhp S2K... even when a flock of birds shit all over my car and my face, such a fun moment when I look back on it. In front of like 50+ people right outside The Boathouse on the White Rock waterfront.
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06-19-2025, 11:19 PM
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#10871 | | Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated
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Working on getting my turbo 5 speed Chrysler K-based convertible running again with a freshened cylinder head after I accidentally broke a cam cap off my built head... ( I was mentally stressed post-COVID and couldn't function properly. )
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06-20-2025, 09:11 AM
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#10872 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Mugen plate bolts
Are they titanium? are there weight savings?
They look awesome, but they look bigger than the uasual screws... dont tell me they are heavier... lololol
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06-20-2025, 11:59 AM
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#10873 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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You think a big mentos looking ring around a bolt is lighter than just a bolt?
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06-20-2025, 12:30 PM
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#10874 | | RS Veteran
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06-20-2025, 05:06 PM
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#10875 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Fuck if I know. I'm just copying OGs like @loong
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