Vancouver's Real Estate Market

[AstulzerRZD]

i'll bite - what's giving that impression?

am i coming across too logical and calculated?

[westopher]

Yeah I’d say so. Obviously you aren’t insufferable like hehe lol.
Relationships are emotion and attraction first, logic second. You should still be objective, but marry for love, not logic. You’ll experience many situations where logic is out the window when living with someone for 50 years and you better be very connected to them on a deeper level to get through it.

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

Trust me there's lots of early 30s still living at home in the basement working sub $50000 jobs. I dunno if it's lack of ambition but apparently mental health and anxiety is a thing from that age and younger. I guess just waiting for parents to die to get the house. You're fucked if your parents doesn't own. It gets worse when you get into Gen z. Maybe it's the Canadian education system.

If you're a man, you don't exist in this world.


If you're a girl, you'll be able to date and find a partner

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS

What about works hard as a server, cooks & cleans, has a maxed out TFSA but not stock market, is ok with living outside of Van to achieve home goals, but probably a 6/10 looks wise?

Spoiler!

Gotta treat dating with a bit of logic sometimes.

Decide what type of girl you'd get with max looks vs lower looks + better qualities. Make a decision and live with it


8.5/10 cooks and cleans but bad finances

or

6.5/10, snappy, but has her life in check

A bit privileged to say but I think if she's lower than a 7.5, lifelong happiness might come from picking the more stable one.

[68style]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

i'll bite - what's giving that impression?

am i coming across too logical and calculated?

I think if you watch clips of old couples talking about being happily married for 50+ years or read about them, you'll find it's much less about "what the other person brings to the table" or how well they compliment your priorities and more about not being selfish and working hard through difficult moments together and letting the other person be who they are judgement free.

That doesn't mean a free pass, it just means if you can't do those things for them or they're not deserving of those things, it's time to walk.

Honestly your described life vision is a single man's vision and there's nothing wrong with that. If I were in your shoes and I was as driven as you are, I wouldn't even be bothering to be in a relationship. It sounds like it's going to turn into a highly resentful atmosphere under the current circumstances.

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

Sheeesh, it aint hard. Ive gotten some real quality ass before i was married and even nowadays, my supremely wagyu fat, bald, lazy ass can still pull some fine ass latina tacos on a business trip. You just gotta make them laugh, and be genuine. Can you make a group of dudes laugh? Can you hold a conversation with your buddies? Then its the same with the bitches. dont put them on some weird pedestal. CHARISMA !!!!.

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

Reminds me of all the PUA and people obsessed with that book "The Game" back in the day. Now pair that up with everyone's obsessed with their potential dates' salary and NW wow I can't even imagine how fucking shitty it is to date these days.

As a felling 190cm+ person, you don't need charisma if you have a height in this era. Having money or decent career makes it even easier. Add hobbies and ability to talk and you'll find it hard to stay single. I wasn't tall until my early 20's growth spurt. Once girls told me it was a privilege, I started noticing how girls started approaching you, they'd choose you just for your height. You can say whatever you want and shoot the shit and it doesn't matter. You're pretty much in.

Originally Posted by rb

Some of you have been married for way too long lol. Friends of mine that have been married for 10+ years often say the same things. However, its like taking advice from someone who last fought a war with swords during a time when there was some sort of honor in battle.

Its predator drones and hellfire missiles out there now in the dating world for the most part. If you're aren't at least somewhat vigilant, you're in for a world of pain

The hard part is how connected we are. You stay in the city long enough and you're successful in dating, you end up hitting every social group around your age. Everyone you date becomes the 2nd girl of that friend group. Unless you go younger, but too young and you're dealing with ppl who are still in school under 24-25. 24-27 is people who are struggling to find a healthy balance in life vs first job.

People should be more honest about dating though, we have an idea of want women and men want. Idk why we play games to try to hide it.

[AstulzerRZD]

People should be more honest about dating though, we have an idea of want women and men want. Idk why we play games to try to hide it.

I think everyone wants the connection, but sometimes when you're young, don't know your preferences yet, don't know what it takes for _you_ personally to be emotionally available, there's blockers to having the depth/meaning we're after.

Once girls told me it was a privilege, I started noticing how girls started approaching you, they'd choose you just for your height. You can say whatever you want and shoot the shit and it doesn't matter. You're pretty much in.

I find I gotta have the energy with my besties/homies just right & roll in with some momentum to draw attention. It's doable but I'm definitely leaning on DJing and knowing the promoters/bouncers.

[Traum]

Originally Posted by Gerbs

8.5/10 cooks and cleans but bad finances

or

6.5/10, snappy, but has her life in check

A bit privileged to say but I think if she's lower than a 7.5, lifelong happiness might come from picking the more stable one.

Both options sound pretty undersirable here though...

Bad finances could fall into a pretty wide range. Potentially, it could be something as trivial as buying a lot of useless / unnecessary small items, to something as bad as chasing the latest glam lifestyle without the financial capability to do so, or anything in between. As a normal person that barely qualifies as having a middle class income, I'd say the inability to stay in the black is already a deal breaker for wifey material.

6.5 and snappy? Sorry, girl, you're already out.

[Badhobz]

i still dont get that obsession with height. who cares, makes zero sense to me. These girls have weird requirements. I know plenty of tall guys that look like they got punched in the face with a chain saw. The taller the dude, the more stretched out their features are and not necessarily a good look i think.

I wouldnt know, i just carry my barely 5 foot midget around for ha ha's

[Traum]

Attraction to height could be a primal biological instinct thing. (Non-excessive) height probably means stronger dude with better genes back in the caveman days, so the chances of having stronger and more survivable offsprings, along with the capability of protecting the mother and the younglings.

(Little do the cave women know, caveman dudes just want to shoot their load and leave LOL~)

It's no different than how men are instinctively attracted to younger women because it means they are more fertile

[noclue]

Man I feel sorry for gen Z dating. Everyone min-maxing traits instead of compatibility.
Apparently there's also facebook groups in every city where girls share the dudes dating app profile for review and validation and see if other girls met him.
Then I saw a reel of a Vancouver gen Z "How much I spent in a month" on IG, and she spent $8k a month. Granted $3k of it was rent/savings/groceries but that's like $140k salary pretax to sustain that spending. Can't think of many gen Z jobs in Vancouver that pay that much. How she gonna save for a house?

[Hehe]

Nah... dating is emotional first. If there's no emotion, regardless how perfect the gal is, you'd just keep on digging for anything that's not perfect in the long run.

A lasting relationship is never about how perfect the other is, but how well you guys can tolerate each other. There will always be compromises. The question is, will you be ok with such compromise?

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Now, enough of chick talks, I will continue with RE stuff.

We all know that the 3 most important things in RE are location, location and location. But very few actually dived into what this saying actually means. It actually doesn't just mean one thing, but a broad spectrum of things to consider.

I'd like to think them in 3 ways, location in macro-sense, location in meso-sense and location in micro-sense.

Macro
The way I see location in macro-sense comes from a simple idea of agglomeration. Where more business leads to more jobs, more jobs leads to more people, more people leads to more business and the cycle continues.

Now, it's important to first check one thing, this surge of business or people, is it a temporary shock or a natural organic growth? Take some resort town for example, during their respective peak season, they would be filled with people. But this growth is temporarily, it only happens during x time of the year and then they are gone.

So, what's considered natural organic growth? The way I see it, it's all what the government are doing. Is the municipality pro-growth or pro-status quo? Generally speaking, local government list their plan way ahead of time. Thus, what one needs to check is how thorough are they following through? They can be saying "oh, we are pro-growth" but when you go and apply for a building permit, you face restriction after restrictions. Thus, one easy way to check the real attitude of the government is to see how lenient they are when it comes to development/building applications. Because in a macro sense, the more construction/development there is in an area, the more valuable it'd eventually become.

I've met a fella who has done incredibly well in the RE market as a whole in both residential and commercial. One day, I just had to ask him, what's his secret? How is it that he can always spot the right place to buy before anyone else? He was very frank about it. He said, I just follow the cranes. He's got a buddy in the tower crane business. And they will just go and buy whichever area that has multiple tower crane rentals reserved.

I actually followed up on that advise when once when I was in Portland, OR for a warehouse clearance. It's this area across the Morrison Bridge from downtown PDX and it was full of old warehouses. The place was being sold and the tenant was clearing everything. As I was there, I saw about 4-5 tower cranes in the immediate 3-5 block radius. So that night when I got to the hotel, I turned on Co-Star, and immediately started checking what's available. The price has already increased, but it was moderate. About 15-20% from its relative low just a year or so ago. Then I looked into Portland development plan, they wanted to rejuvenate that whole area. And it made sense because it was like Yaletown in the past. Full of warehouses and some of the building for sale pretty much take out an entire city block. Long story short, I had my family's fund buying a lot in the area not long after. Hold it for a decent 6% cap and eventually sold it for 100%+ profit after all the fees. All this in a span of 3-4yrs.

Therefore, on a macro level, one needs to first consider what's the government stance. Never fight against it. Instead, just flow with it and go where development is happening. The more development would bring more jobs. More jobs would lead to more people, and more people would lead to more value.

[Badhobz]

^nah

[whitev70r]

For some, a 6.5 lady is already punching above their level ... . Myself included, I'm like a 5.5 on a good day after a haircut.

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by whitev70r

For some, a 6.5 lady is already punching above their level ... . Myself included, I'm like a 5.5 on a good day after a haircut.

Says the guy who rides his bike everywhere.

[Hehe]

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

Says the guy who rides his bike everywhere.

Says the resident hipster.

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

i'll bite - what's giving that impression?

am i coming across too logical and calculated?

A lot of high performers think about dating values similar to you, they voice it differently. It's not a bad thing but a lot of people will think you're crazy for thinking that far.

If you're a 9/10 on the thinking chart for relationships. I'm a 8.


Less than 50% of people have an internal dialogue running at all times lol

Originally Posted by westopher

You should still be objective, but marry for love, not logic. You’ll experience many situations where logic is out the window when living with someone for 50 years and you better be very connected to them on a deeper level to get through it.

I think this is what I learned vs being logical

Originally Posted by Traum

Both options sound pretty undersirable here though...

Bad finances could fall into a pretty wide range. Potentially, it could be something as trivial as buying a lot of useless / unnecessary small items, to something as bad as chasing the latest glam lifestyle without the financial capability to do so, or anything in between. As a normal person that barely qualifies as having a middle class income, I'd say the inability to stay in the black is already a deal breaker for wifey material.

6.5 and snappy? Sorry, girl, you're already out.

Find a 7.5-8/10, that treats you right, you vibe with and future looks good, marry her!

[Gerbs]

Originally Posted by Badhobz

i still dont get that obsession with height. who cares, makes zero sense to me.

Privilege is blind to those who have it.

All my tall boys don't appreciate nor notice their advantage with women, making friends or careers.

Anytime they're single, it's so easy for me to set up 2-3 blind-dates through friends of friends who are still single. I tell the girls they work in tech, sucks at golf, not funny, but he's tall and they're in.

[GS8]

Originally Posted by Traum

Attraction to height could be a primal biological instinct thing. (Non-excessive) height probably means stronger dude with better genes back in the caveman days, so the chances of having stronger and more survivable offsprings, along with the capability of protecting the mother and the younglings.

(Little do the cave women know, caveman dudes just want to shoot their load and leave LOL~)

It's no different than how men are instinctively attracted to younger women because it means they are more fertile

I think with tall people, if they are tall vertically,, they must be tall horizontally too

But dating nowadays is just awful. Truly a miserating experience, thanks to social media which has warped people's expectations, going into a dating scenario.

Lost are the days of just going out to meet strangers, blind dates, friends of friends etc.

It's all become so synthetic and almost trivial now. What happened to the organic experience of just speaking with people and seeing how your minds connect through conversation but also, body language? Laughing together is pretty powerful from a social perspective.

Sitting there typing texts / emojis all day and night while never seeing the person until the 10th day is dumb. How committed are the people actually, particularly when the initial eagerness is shown? Just seems to fall off in a world that showcases it's proud nihilism. How about bringing back existentialism and showing your willpower to the world? Would seem to be a better test of finding someone compatible.

Someone who can start off as a 6 can become an 8 if you give them time to show you who they might truly be (they might be reserved at first) but with today's ADHD, good luck with that.

I'm just trigger ranting.