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Morgan Freeman has it right with this statement, but i still feel like their shouldnt be Gun stores at every corner. https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...43161663_n.jpg |
When they control the banks, media and FDA... groom children to be soldiers through various media, put mass numbers of people on antipsychotic drugs... is it any surprise that his medication is not in the spot light here? Theses drugs are synonymous with shootings and suicides and are given out like candy to full fill an agenda, and not help people from my conclusions. |
one of the teachers is from Winnipeg i hear and the shooters mom is supposedly a "doomsday prepper" preparing for the financial collapse of the US/world |
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Although I don't know is this good or bad... but I actually don't remember any of the killers names... nor do I really remember the event altogether after a few weeks or so, unless it's brought up again... :pokerface: Anyway, Quote:
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Well anyone with 2 handguns and an assault rifle has to be at least a little bit mental. What possible good can come from owning these? |
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Edit: I mean, if a random person had 2 handguns and an assault rifle, that doesn't automatically make him/her mental. |
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I also read that the school had just implicated a new security system, I wonder if there was some sort of threat against students or teachers that made the principle get increased security. |
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Worst. Assumption. Ever. |
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If educators are that responsible under these terrible circumstances, why would you not trust them to defend your children using a tool more appropriate than their bare hands? Please watch the video and look at James Yeager's shooting incident statistics. 50% of shooting incidents are stopped by opposition to the shooter. 2/3's of those stopped incidents are by civilian opposition. Out of those cases, 8/10 civilians were unarmed. In this incident, unarmed civilians tried to stop the shooter and failed. They had the mindset to stop him, but not the required resources. Quote:
When are people going to learn that these psychopaths are specifically targeting people and areas that are defenseless. Virginia Tech? Gun Free Zone. The Colorado theatre shooting? Gun Free Zone. The Oregon Clakamas Town Center shooting? Gun Free Zone. This incident? Every elementary and high school in America is a Gun Free Zone. Quote:
Another reminder is that gun violence does happen in strict gun control countries. Norway has some of the toughest restrictions in the world and they had one of the worst shooting incidents in history. Norway's gun laws prove easy to ignore In regards to the knife vs gun violence arguments, they're both bad. With enough searching I can come up with a long list of knives being effective mass murder weapons. Here's a list of only bladed weapon attacks at Chinese school in 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...0%E2%80%932011) Here's another random violence incident where a knife was very effective. These news stories are easy to find. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/241709/...attack-reports My argument is that there needs to be less focus on restricting weapons these terrible people are using, and more focus on making sure there are less terrible people. |
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University study confirms private guns stop crime 2.5 million times a year Remember that Clakamas, Oregon mall shooting from a couple days ago that this school shooting has now eclipsed? Guess what made that shooter think twice about continuing his rampage? Armed Clackamas Man Confronts Mall Shooter Funny how the local Oregon news has now figured out this story, when there's no mention of it on national news like CNN, even when CNN was covering that event like crazy at the time, and incorrectly first reporting that police stopped the Oregon shooter. A CNN executive was involved in a debate regarding why national media downplays incidents in which law abidding armed citizens stop violent crime. He was quoted as saying "We don't want to encourage copycat vigilantism." Isn't it odd that: The media knows there will be copycats of things they report on. The media gives excessive coverage to mass murder. The media rarely reports that armed response by private citizens stops crime You can listen to it here: http://armedamericanradio.org/?s=aurora |
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its just a story that some 20yr old claims was the reason the killing spree stopped because the shooter supposedly saw another guy with a gun he doesnt even know if the shooter fired his last shot after supposedly seeing him with a gun... he ran into a store to hide |
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But, if that were the case, the mom is an idiot for not locking them away safely. But, it said he failed to buy a gun the day before, so did her mom buy these, or did he? |
dunno if someone has posted this video, but it sums up how we should actually approach these situations. |
Two small pieces that I would like to contribute: http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/920/rtc2.jpg 20 years ago many less American states issued CCW permits to civilians. in 2010 you can see now the majority of states grant CCW permits. Homicide rates per 100,000 have dropped nearly by half within that time (bottom of diagram). http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5...canada1926.gif Here is the homicide rate in Canada throughout history. Before 1978, there was very little gun control in Canada. Handguns, while registered, were legal for carry. Fully automatic weapons were legal. Magazine capacities were unrestricted. |
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A person who reacts to something in a moment of need, spontaneously without predilection, is not comparable to a person poised and actively training for that aforementioned moment. Sit down and have a conversation with a police officer, doctor, soldier, and kindergarten teacher; they possess distinctly different psyches that lead them to their chosen professions, which is only further reinforced by their occupations. Toggling between those psyches is not possible. I would not allow a person who spends Pro-D days in shoot houses to educate, and thereby influence, my child. Quote:
America is occasionally attacked by a lone mentally ill person, the attackers act alone with no clear agenda other than to hurt people and usually commit suicide. America has the power to influence the people who attack it, because the attacks arise internally and are facilitated by policies on guns and treatment of the mentally ill. I never said, America is not under attack by terrorists. I agree, the attackers are terrorists, but they're a different breed and must be handled in a different manner. Both my Civic and a Ferrari are cars, they possess many of the same features, an engine, wheels, tires, seats, and et cetera, but ultimately are totally different. I would apply that concept to a comparison of Isreal and its attackers to America and its attackers. Quote:
There needs to be a starting point however, and that's simple - stop selling guns that facilitate these types of attacks, and change the constitution that entitles people to own them. Another potentially very effective step in the long term, restrict the sale of bullets. Quote:
A truck is another very effective killing tool, mowing down a group of students would not be too difficult. A firearm like the type used is more effective, vastly more, and it is not an absolutely essential societal tool like a knife or truck. Spoiler! MAJOR societal changes are not accounted for in these charts. It's like saying, gun ownership has less restrictions put in place in xxxx area, and no youth outreach programs, police initiatives, social changes, ever took place or had an effect. The extremely narrow focus of those charts make them difficult to consider with much weight. |
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tons of american collect guns..it's a hobby...in some states you don't even need to go to the range to use them. |
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