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Why do you guys want English on the store signs so bad? According to Wiki, the percentage of people who identify as Chinese is 50%. I'm guessing most of them can speak at least a little English. So what if there are some stores that cater only to the miniscule percentage non-English speaking people? Why give a fuck? If the signs aren't in English, you're probably not gonna go there anyway. Why make it inconvenient for them? They're not breaking any laws so I don't see why everyone's so against it. Are you scared that in the future, the Chinese may or may not take over Richmond and you wanna keep that from happening? |
Some of you people really need to understand what official language means... you guys sound like a bunch of racist rednecks telling people what to say and what to do without actually understanding what the term freedom of expression even means or what your country stands for I am not protecting Chinese people here but you guys just sound so damn ignorant. |
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It is not too much to ask for English words on a sign, but getting petition to force people to do it is the WRONG way and not what this country stands for. If you want to make this a culture debate then what is CANADIAN culture? Christmas? Easter? Hockey? so by what you are saying if you don't celebrate these things you are automatically perpetuating cultural division? Canada is a multicultural society that borrows a lot culture from others around the world. That what makes us so ethnically rich and a great country. Not with the attitude: "you come to our country, you better speak our official language and if you don't you can get out". and Official language doesn't mean the language you MUST speak. Its refers to the language used within its government - its courts, parliament, administration, etc. - to run its operations and conduct its business. Running a business in your own language is not an issue and shouldn't even be brought up in the first place. The reason it did, and the reason this thread is still ongoing is because of the intolerant people that are either racist or just plain ignorant that can't stand for things different and strange to them. They are confused, they are scared so they start blaming things. Guess where else did this happen? NAZI GERMANY. This is why you need to learn history kids.(referring to my other post in a different thread :P) |
who cares. fuck richmond |
I'm digging where this discussion is going....hasn't been an entertaining thread in a while. Keep it up boys! |
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As a Richmond resident all my life, there is one valuable thing that many of the early immigrants from the 90s picked up. I can read/kind of write chinese. I know the traditions and customs of Hong Kong at the same time, embrace and be proud to be Canadian. This is now missing in Vancouver in GENERAL. Not just Richmond. Everything starts within the younger generation and you have to start by building a foundation there. This is how true multiculturalism should be. Some of you say that all these Asian places frown upon white people walking into their business, this is not true. These non-chinese are willing to adapt to the surroundings. If someone can't serve you at an establishment, someone else will. One way or another, they will take your money. I worked in the food industry in Richmond, the Asian dominance is there, but all it takes is one or two people inside the business to be able to communicate in english with someone to get more business. Its not always about the signage, its how different races of people can come together and interact. in fact, you will sometimes find white folks in lido, as there are people that speak english and CAN interact with the customer. anyways... The comment section on the province is a much more entertaining read and will give you an insight from the older folks on this issue. Chinese signs in Richmond to stay after council rejects proposed English bylaw |
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The french thing is a tad bit ridiculous. I doubt there's a single french only speaking person in richmond. The 70/30 thing does make sense though. I hate making deliveries to random stores in richmond where the name and number of the store are tiny and sometimes non existant, where menus don't even have english on them. I guess if that's how it is, only people who can read and understand the language can go in? Like buddy above me said, I have less reason to go to a place where i'm not very welcome. I'm not going to learn chinese just so I can understand business or street signs in my own country. But then again, we don't speak cree or any native languages or have any of their signs hangin around, even on reserves it's rare.... Hopefully engrish doesn't go the way of the natives. |
I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather see Chinese signs that I can't read versus poorly Google translated signs in English or English written pronunciation of the Chinese word. |
to tell us that your friend's uncle's brother's girlfriends aunt got rejected or turned down at a restaurant/shop is BULLSHIT and I don't buy ANY of what some of you have said. just sayin |
you know, people who live in richmond are the ones who truly know that it's not "all chinese people in richmond". It's those who don't live there that think that richmond has a huge indian population and steveston is now very very much consisting of a ton of russians (unfortunately) and israelis. Filipinos are also a huge group in richmond; their 12 year olds enjoy beating my grown ass at basketball. Also africans are taking over the number 5 area and the area between richmond and new west has always been a heavily african-canadian populated area. Rich white farmers also live near here, as opposed to the brown farmers who live in the non-wilderness areas of richmond here's a 2006 census which shows you that richmond is not even close to all chinese: http://www.richmond.ca/__shared/asse...icity20987.pdf unfortunately i could not find an updated one but i know for a fact that there are a shitload more of the groups i mentioned above now than ever before. Of course a lot more mainland chinese immigrants too. not really talking about the sign situation anymore...just saying...it's annoying when people think richmond is 100% chinese people and bad drivers. I live in east van now and see far more asian people here (not that i'm complaining...a lotta them are hot and korean :sweetjesus: ) and the drivers are total pricks around here. |
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The real problem begins when Mainland Chinese immigrants and their relatives and families start to poop publicly, then we have a problem. no joke, its a real problem http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...50398416_n.jpg |
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There seems to be a lot of whining. Generally, the Asian area in Richmond, aka Golden Village, have English everywhere. People are just whining about the few stores here and there that don't have English. And I bet those are the same stores that people wouldn't go to anyway even if it ONLY had English due to the random "asiany" stuff they sell that no white person would care about. The real reason (white) people don't go poking around to those Asian places is because of the cultural difference in the first place. You think a mass of white people don't go to Chinese restaurants because of a language barrier? Like 99% of Chinese restaurants I went to have English and Chinese on the menu. So what's the BS excuse? Why do I barely ever see white (or non chinese) in there? Fact is, a highly concentrated place of different culture wouldn't attract most people, unless they are prepared to "explore". I use myself for example, I go past the Punjabi market areas on Fraser and Main all the time. Yet after decades, I have never really taken time to step foot in any of thsoe stores. Why? Because I simply have no interest in going to Indian places. Nothing to do with racism. Just a different culture. But I'm not going to go cry a river about the signs not being big enough in English, and use that as an excuse for not wanting to go to those places. In fact, I think most of the stores do have English signs there. |
Nobody calls it the Golden Village. |
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But it was simply to point out that Richmond isn't ALL Chinese/asian. I was basically saying Richmond =/= Chinese Golden Village = Chinese. |
fucking time to get me some sweet and sour pork in richmond. Didn't know there is such large population of chinese locally. |
hmm, how to go abouts this, its like a black guy dropping the n word... is it racist? or just poor taste. as requested by Graeme, he is suppose to have this handled. if it escalates, then ill step in. but for now, points. love it or hate it, still poor taste of words. Quote:
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way too many pages to sift through, my opinion, all signs need to have their english counter part there, regardless if that is the shops name or not. signs in richmond need their english counter part up. its part of moving to canada to start your business. yes your clientel is 100% asian, but the land your business operates on isnt. English is the official first language here on the west coast. If the business was in quebec, then you'd need french in there too, yeah, sucks you have to have a big sign to hold all languages, but thats part of doing business in canada. |
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