The requirement to connect to the internet at least once per day is the killer for me. Sure I have WiFi throughout my house, but I still want to be able to play any time I want, internet or not.

The whole Internet thing doesn't bother me cause I'll have wifi on all the time, but I can see how it would suck for certain people.

And I'll still always prefer the ease of a console compared to a computer. I know I might not get the best graphics but I know if I spend the 400-500 bucks for it, it's going to work with any game I pop into it for the next 7 years or so. I really have no issue spending that kind of money on a piece of hardware that has that kind of longevity. Hell some people spend 650 bucks on a phone every year.
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I've bought alot of games on my 360 through the DLC/XBOX points cards .

The one thing I absolutely hated was that you had to be connected online at all times to be able to play these games. Which really sucks if your internet is down or if your connection sucks, even though you have already paid and the games are saved onto your harddrive. :bullshit:

you can sell a game but can't rent one?

how does that work

They only allow one single transfer (to a person whose has been on your friend's list for 30days+)... so you can technically sell (once) but the buyer is stuck with it forever)

All in all, I think the announcement for clearing things up actually turned out worse than I imagined/rumoured.

It basically confirms that XB1 is not going to support used market. And no, being able to sell once to someone on my friendlist is not selling. It's more like giving a game that I no longer wanna play... EVER.

M$ wanna pull off a Steam on their own right but WITHOUT the Steam pricing. (rumours suggest $79/title?!? :rukidding: )

I think I'm ok with all these shitty restrictions if games were $10~30 a pop, but I'm unlikely to buy any new IP on the first day at $79, as I might be out of almost $100 (79+tax) if the title turns out to be shitty.

Whelp, until the internet improves throughout the Interior, guess I'm stuck with my PS3 and 360. I'm just going to assume that Sony will be along similar lines of requiring internet connection at least once/day.

It's just sad that I have more reliable internet connection on my phone than through satellite for my computer.

I'm vaguely curious what'll happen if it doesn't detect the internet, though. Will it just simply refuse to load the game?

steams 1 game per account thing has always been a pita for me especially since 2 different games can't be played at the same time from different computers -_-

but at least games typically go on sale and are cheap enough that i dont mind buying a game twice

doesnt help for new releases though

the once a day verification bit still sucks. it doesn't add anything to the consumer and just delays getting to the game; even if the delay is 1 sec, still be less annoying if it wasn't there.
it's easy to not turn on a console for a day. you're out of luck if your internet goes out and the last time you played something was more than 24hrs ago.

So does the Xbox One with all your games turn into a brick one day when they decide they don't want to support the servers anymore after the XBox 2 comes out? Basically your games are useless unless the online verification is there to say "OK". If I buy a game online and have it downloaded on my system why do I need a verification to say its ok to play every 24 hours...
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Agreed, if you wanna DRM the prices better not be too far from Steam/GMG/Amazon or it's gonna flop

Sony already confirmed there won't be online authentication but nothing's concrete yet for used games. It'd be smart move to continue used games to win xbox fans over but I don't see the publishers letting that happen...it'll give the PS4 too much advantage.

:rukidding: it's the same idea as a physical disc...you can't play simatenously on 2 systems. That'll create so much headache esp for online games.

no.. im talking about 2 completely different games

like player 1 is playing left4dead while player 2 wants to play lanoire or something

"2 different"

"but you can still watch live TV" :rofl:

Every single game you play needs to be 'confirmed' by MS servers before playing. They have it set up very strict, so they know each game is tied to an account and its 10 family accounts. A game can be transferred or given away if the publisher allows it... this easily prevents rentals

So you need internet connection all the time? That sucks balls.

Actually, the way they stated it was kind of vague. "Each user is allowed to transfer a game they own once"; so the hypothesis goes two ways:
One: A game can be sold once and only once
Two: A game can be sold once by its original owner, and then to another new owner, and then to another new owner and so on...

Yeah, you are confusing gifting (to someone on your friends list) to selling (to a 'participating retailer'). One can only be done once for certain, but the other, they haven't said if there is a limit or not. Presumably not

The online thing isn't a killer since I use steam anyways.

To be honest sales might be as good for xbox or sony this time. Yes hardcore gamers and gamers who want a console will still get one but a lot of casual gamers won't get one simply if they have an ipad, tablet they won't feel the need to get a console.

Sure the controls aren't as good and a lot of the games have the same control but hey if you already own a tablet and the game only cost say 2.99 to 16.99 per game on your tablet vs a new console + at least $40 per game which one will you pick as a casual gamer?

After skimming through this I find myself not wanting an XB1 now lol.

I was pretty stoked. Now it seems like such a pain in the ass. Especially if I can't buy used titles or sell off games I've bought. I don't know how many times I've bought games a launch date to only be disappointed. Last thing I was is to pay $80 to find out I hate the game and get stuck with it. I would definitely buy less games. I myself buy alot of games (new and used), most the time new. But I'd say 40% of the time the game I bought at launch wasn't my type of game and I just resell it at a slight loss. If I can't even do that, I won't even buy the game at all until there's enough reviews on it. By that time the hype is over and I probably won't even want it at all. I got to admit I bought alot more xbox/ps3 titles then PC. The PC titles I bought were games I know I would keep. But that's only like 3-4 games/year. Console games I probably bought 10+/year for each console.

Hope they think of the gamers, instead of making themselves richer.

thought sony had confirmed that used games would be fine on ps4 months ago?

No, they haven't said anything specifically at all.

A lot of people are clinging to the quote "The Playstation 4 will not need to constantly be on the internet to play games" but even that is not a good quote to consider as a clear statement of fact.

So now, I could even share my games with my "family" accounts. Does that mean that my friends will now only need to link to one account that buys 1 copy game and share it across 10 people?

I'm going to guess that Microsoft's not quite that thick; most likely there will be some kind of combination of:
>Only one person able to play the game at a time
> Only IPs that have been logged in to by the owner's account can access the game (this would prevent someone who lives in Toronto from being my "brother" and letting me play his games for free)
>Familial verification through logging in together on a single device and/or registering "family" accounts together with some sort of proof or other.

Forced to be gregarious, they at least won't be too thick about it.

^^^^ maybe like the PS3 where games can only be downloaded/accessed by 5 machines in total; so maybe your best buddy and family member can have the game for free



so with companies like facebook/google/msft/etc allowing the govt. backdoors into their systems to monitor people (the current PRISM fiasco) does anyone expect Kinect not to be used in a similar fashion? ;)

^ that'd be a smart way of adding pictures and family members into your nsa profile lol.