At least with the PS4 you'll have the choice. If a publisher puts out a game that requires you to be online all the time, you can choose not to support them and not buy the game. XBox One makes it required for every game regardless of what the publisher says.

Yup that's true. And we've seen what happens when games are published with restrictive DRM (people on the internet get mad, games sell like crazy anyway)

Time will tell, if MS outsells Sony with their more expensive DRM loving TV box which big selling point will only be available in the states for who knows how long, my hat goes off to them.
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internet trolls love to blow things up and people in the internet love to follow.

I follow the fighting game community a lot and it's exactly like that. They will blow anything up even if they know deep down that it probably won't affect them much or at all.

Yup that's the internet overall... MMA forums are the same way. People bitching about this guy or that not "deserving" a title shot, without realizing it's a business, and the guys who matter are the ones that sell tickets and PPVs.

I have no doubt that the One will sell well. It's still an impressive machine (for a console, at least) and, truth be told, the amount of people without internet access are pretty few and far between. The people that complain the most are almost always the same vocal minority that will complain even if they were offered the best system possible for dirt cheap.

But yeah, the big selling points always seem to be USA-exclusive, making them a non-factor for the rest of the world.

I'm still curious how well the Kinect will work in low light situations.

On top of low light, how well it will perform in a smaller environment. The current Kinect requires you to have a gymnasium for a party of two or more.

:rukidding:

LMAO

with regard to kinect low light i read this on another forum don't know how accurate it is etc

now if I can get around on supplying money into my xbox live canadian account, I don't mind picking up a couple of xbox one.... since now I don't have to worry about game retailers in hk not importing north american version of the games as everything could be purchased online.

Better start paying for a proxy then

Xbox One Pre-Order Product Information - Xbox.com

I have a dedicated VPN connected to the states and hong kong, but seriously, fuck microsoft

As much as I want to get the xbox one, Microsoft is telling me that I should just stick with a PS4.

Ill admit up front, I’m more of a Playstation fan for many reasons.

I have both consoles, but only buy multiplayer games to play on line with my brother (who has a 360) on my 360. Both my wife and I play for the most part on our PS3.

I have always taken issue with the way Microsoft treats its customers. I always feel like I’m being SOLD something when I turn on my xbox, rather than SHOWN something. The menus are littered with adds, I find them hard to navigate. The idea that I have to be a Gold subscriber just to use the damn thing even for video streaming services always bothered me.

While Sony has had its fuck ups, it seems like after the first year or two of PS3, they learned to start listening to customers, and their sales started to take off. While I still think the 360 is a better machine for online gaming, it’s really only because the party system makes it so easy. Hopefully Sony implements something similar for PS4.

Being a PS+ member for several years now, I can say that SONY has gone much farther in rewarding me as a customer and a service subscriber than Microsoft ever has.

The Ps4 will be a pre order (when I pick up the last of us!), the new box will be a wait and see. I have a really hard time jumping into bed with Microsoft with the PRISM scandal still unfolding. While I don’t normally buy used games, or even sell my old ones, I often lend them to my young brother in law who plays them on his sisters machine, or lend to a few friends to try out. The New Xbox makes this all problematic.

While the technology Microsoft is pushing is interesting, none of the TV integration they showed means anything to me, I don’t subscribe to cable. So really to make good use of the system, that’s ANOTHER subscription I would have to sign up for that I don’t want.

It’s a reversal of the last consoles launch. Microsoft is taking my business for granted (Like Sony did last time around) and Sony is looking to cater to their consumer base with subscription rewards, pushing smaller indie type titles to publish on the system, letting me opt out of products I don’t want (IE PS Eye) and letting me do what I want with my games. Add to that Netflix has always just worked better on the PS3, and runs like crap on my xbox, and my PS3 streams video from my PC better with PS3 Media Server than Xbox or windows ever did, Ill continue to support Sony in trying support me, and not just expect my business.

Side note to all this, I believe that on line passes are a good thing. Support game studios and publishers who make the games you want. When you buy used, they get NOTHING.

Hopefully that list is expanded in the near future. There are some major countries missing...

Seriously having a tough time deciding on which console to get games on. I want to get the XBONE but a lot of people I know are getting the PS4. Although more games on the XBONE interest me.

Thought KH3 was going to decide it for me but it's multiplatform.

i've been hearing a lot about the KH series as of late, were they that good?

I only buy exclusives for Xbox360. Anything multiplatform would be for PS3.
its gonna be the same this time around as well.

For the 360/PS3, there were quite a few reasons to go with the PS3 version
- Much higher quality jewel case for PS3 titles
- bluray has a much better scratch resistance
- Region Free
- I prefer dual shock more
- higher quality cut scenes in games due to bluray having much higher capacity



This time around, Microsoft screwed all consumers big times, I'll probably lose interest in the Xbox One by the time I could gain access to it. Might not even wanna bother with their exclusive titles.

if you like Final Fantasy and you like Disney cartoons and if the prospect of both worlds getting mashed together in an intricate and beautiful story than you should love, love Kingdom Hearts

I was hoping so much to see a KH3 trailer but didn't think/know there was a game in the works and i teared up there i said it i teared up when i saw the trailer ;)


all the hype might ruin it for you though :P

these guys sure love their KH :lawl:

i guess i should have known this but just found out titanfall is coming out on PC as well

That's what I ended up doing. This gen it was the opposite for me. multiplatform: 360, exclusives: ps3.

I still have the XBONE preordered along with the exclusives. Not sure if I'm going to cancel it yet. Got a bit of time to decide.

Titanfall is only an one year exclusive to the XBONE and PC.

I'm sure all 3rd party games will eventually get port to the PS4. Being exclusive to a console that no one wanna buy isn't gonna help LOL

They were amazing! :)
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for those that care

the packaging

http://i2.cdnds.net/13/24/618x500/xbox-one-box-art.jpg