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MR_BIGGS 10-29-2013 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by eurochevy (Post 8348727)
skated into him but guy coulda hit him in the chest instead of the head dubinsky raises his arm up last second

No suspension.

The Sedins can get north of $7 million in the open market, but what team will commit $14 million on them? If they leave, they leave together to the same team. So I kind of agree with Hondaracer that they don't have as much leverage as people may think. That said, the cap is forecast to go up over the next three years, but would the Sedins go to a team that isn't a contender. I highly doubt it. Let's just hope Gillis doesn't do what the Sens GM did with Alfie.

I don't think they will sign for anything less than $6 million.

Jmac 10-29-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 8349213)
No suspension.

The Sedins can get north of $7 million in the open market, but what team will commit $14 million on them? If they leave, they leave together to the same team. So I kind of agree with Hondaracer that they don't have as much leverage as people may think. That said, the cap is forecast to go up over the next three years, but would the Sedins go to a team that isn't a contender. I highly doubt it. Let's just hope Gillis doesn't do what the Sens GM did with Alfie.

I don't think they will sign for anything less than $6 million.

Detroit has a tonne of cap room next year. Burke would go hard after the Sedins and Calgary has loads of cap.

Also, Zetterberg is getting $6.083M from his contract that started in 2009. Pratt is an idiot.

Gumby 10-29-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8349182)
Sedins will take a hair cut to stay in van, they have less leverage than people think
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They need a hair cut? :troll:

fsy82 10-29-2013 09:21 AM

Highlights of last nights game

fliptuner 10-29-2013 10:15 AM

Was hoping he'd include the whole sequence for Danny's goal. That possession was awesome.

SumAznGuy 10-29-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ICE BOY (Post 8349286)
Was hoping he'd include the whole sequence for Danny's goal. That possession was awesome.

I called it the 5 on 5 power play.

fliptuner 10-29-2013 11:11 AM

5 on 5 PP...lol... I hear this in my head when they do it:


I haven't seen the Caps since I bought those tickets off you.

Tim Budong 10-29-2013 12:11 PM

Mckenzie says its all about the term and not so much the money

makes sense

Hondaracer 10-29-2013 12:23 PM

Well the term dictates the money lol
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AzNightmare 10-29-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ICE BOY (Post 8349286)
Was hoping he'd include the whole sequence for Danny's goal. That possession was awesome.

Danny's goal? Puck possession?


You mean this sequence?






:troll:

winson604 10-29-2013 12:29 PM

Tough choice, I know the Sedins want this to be their last contract ever in the NHL.

Do you give them 5 years at 6m +? What about 3 years at like 7m +?

I think we can get 3 decent years out of them but can we get 5? Who knows.

If we say fuck it and don't resign them period then sure we have 12-14m to spend but who are you going to sign to replace 2 players?

I know sometimes it's easy to rip GM's for certain choices in which we think is a no brainer but I'm really on the fence about this one to be honest. I'm not sure what the right choice is.

pastarocket 10-29-2013 12:41 PM

My guess is that Gillis is trying to keep the core of our team intact, and hope that Torts can improve the development of our young players like Kassian and Santorelli so that we have a balanced team on offence.

-sort of trying to emulate San Jose with its veteran stars Thornton and Marleau, and the young guys like Pavelski, Couture, and Burns.

This season and the playoffs will be used to determine whether the Sedins are worth it in the long run to be Canucks in terms of our playoff success. Do you keep the twins or do a complete rebuild of the first line?

highfive 10-29-2013 12:56 PM

For everything the Sedins has done in Vancouver and all the criticisms they have faced to this very day, Gillis should be fired if he doesn't resign the Sedins.

Just purely look at how they took a pay cut to stay in Vancouver, they end up donating $1.5 million to Children's hospital.

CRS 10-29-2013 01:00 PM

It will be a sad day in Vancouver if the Sedins ever leave Vancouver.

sonick 10-29-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ICE BOY (Post 8349286)
Was hoping he'd include the whole sequence for Danny's goal. That possession was awesome.

Makaveli does in his (at 6:04)


trancehead 10-29-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8349377)
My guess is that Gillis is trying to keep the core of our team intact, and hope that Torts can improve the development of our young players like Kassian and Santorelli so that we have a balanced team on offence.

-sort of trying to emulate San Jose with its veteran stars Thornton and Marleau, and the young guys like Pavelski, Couture, and Burns.

This season and the playoffs will be used to determine whether the Sedins are worth it in the long run to be Canucks in terms of our playoff success. Do you keep the twins or do a complete rebuild of the first line?

i agree with the SJ emulation. Thornton, but moreso even "gutless" Marleau have taken a step back and let the kids in Pavelski and Couture take over

the kids in vancouvers system: Horvat, shattenkirk, guance, jensen...look to need some seasoning still. i would not hand over the reigns to them so fast. So expect the sedins to get at least 3 years

but oh god, if Luongo were to go, its time to hit the reset button. MG and the italian mafia of Aquiliinis better be pumping and humping his tires

zx7rrrr 10-29-2013 01:11 PM

Win the cup this year
Let the sedins go next year
Trade lu
Tank the season
Win mcdavid lottery

Quote me on it
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Jmac 10-29-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 8349389)
i agree with the SJ emulation. Thornton, but moreso even "gutless" Marleau have taken a step back and let the kids in Pavelski and Couture take over

the kids in vancouvers system: Horvat, shattenkirk, guance, jensen...look to need some seasoning still. i would not hand over the reigns to them so fast. So expect the sedins to get at least 3 years

but oh god, if Luongo were to go, its time to hit the reset button. MG and the italian mafia of Aquiliinis better be pumping and humping his tires

Pavelski is 29 ... Couture is 25 this season ...

SJS isn't handing the team over to "kids" ... They're handing the team over to guys in their prime ...

trancehead 10-29-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8349398)
Pavelski is 29 ... Couture is 25 this season ...

SJS isn't handing the team over to "kids" ... They're handing the team over to guys in their prime ...

thanks for the semantics

but these are kids relative to the likes of Thornton and Marleau who have been there for ages

punkwax 10-29-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 8349389)
i agree with the SJ emulation. Thornton, but moreso even "gutless" Marleau have taken a step back and let the kids in Pavelski and Couture take over

the kids in vancouvers system: Horvat, shattenkirk, guance, jensen...look to need some seasoning still. i would not hand over the reigns to them so fast. So expect the sedins to get at least 3 years

but oh god, if Luongo were to go, its time to hit the reset button. MG and the italian mafia of Aquiliinis better be pumping and humping his tires

Ya that Shattenkirk kid is gonna be a stud :ilied:

UFO 10-29-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8349188)
The Sedins want to stay in Vancouver as well, I wouldn't be surprised if we signed them for 4-5 years at 4.5-5 a year average

I would be surprised that they get anywhere near close to that, that's a pretty generous lowball IMO.

My guess is 7-8 years in the 5-5.5 range, which will take them to the end of their careers. Cap hit for their latter years may seem high now, but 5 years from now the cap may well be above 80M so that's not a biggie for me. If they don't get a long term, I wouldn't bank on much if any hometown discount, ie. 2-3 years at ~7M per

Funny thing is MG had the opportunity to lock them up to life long contracts ala Lu's deal, but didn't believe in those deals at the time. Then he turns around and hands Lu his deal a year later. I bet he wishes he could turn back those hands of time.

punkwax 10-29-2013 01:58 PM

I think after the Luongo fiasco, MG is more than happy to have not signed anyone else to such a contract..

Hondaracer 10-29-2013 02:16 PM

Give em 6 years with NTC first 4

Signing long term contracts now "long term" being anything over 4 as far as I'm concerned is risky as you're going to be on the hook of anything were to happen or retire
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UFO 10-29-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodnarb (Post 8349410)
I think after the Luongo fiasco, MG is more than happy to have not signed anyone else to such a contract..

completely different context. There's only 1 elite goalie position per team, 30 in the whole league. Easily 4-5x that capacity when looking at skaters. Sedins could have been had for 12 yr 60M, if MG can get their next 7 years at 30M he'd be laughing all the way to the bank.
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UFO 10-29-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8349425)
Give em 6 years with NTC first 4

Signing long term contracts now "long term" being anything over 4 as far as I'm concerned is risky as you're going to be on the hook of anything were to happen or retire
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since contracts can no longer be front loaded like in the past, there's no cap recapture penalty due to early retirement. And sedins are not 35, so if they retire early their caphits won't stick to the end of their contracts
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