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slicrick 12-04-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiuYi (Post 8375145)
fixed. new york likes to make it rain on shitty players lol

Lundqvist has been so good for NYR but 8.5 for 7 years :heckno: as a NYR fan i wish Sather would learn, Drury, Redden, Richards and now Lundqvist (maybe?) no doubt he will be good but for that long...?

Mike Oxbig 12-04-2013 04:11 PM

rick nash is at 7.8 cap hit too... are the rangers just trying to sell the game of hockey with big names and talk about 1994 stanley cup win like it was yesterday?

Jmac 12-04-2013 04:16 PM

I was expecting somewhere in the area of 5 years, $40M ($8M AAV), but at 7 years, should've been $49M ($7M AAV).

There's no way Lundqvist lives up to this contract.

Also, Luuuu's tweet :lawl:

CRS 12-04-2013 04:26 PM

So Cole Cassels' NHL contract was just rejected by the NHL.

Quote:

Renaud Lavoie ‏@LavoieRenaud 7m
NHL rejected Cole Cassels contract. Game played bonus is impossible to earn. Not enough games left this season to meet threshold. #canucks

spideyv2 12-04-2013 04:29 PM

Gillis pls
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Jmac 12-04-2013 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 8375216)
So Cole Cassels' NHL contract was just rejected by the NHL.

Games Played bonus unattainable this year as it Cassels can't play in the NHL until after his OHL team's season is over. Has to be redone.

No word on Twitter yet whether or not there will be any circumvention penalties. Likely small fine at most.

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1. Individual "A" Bonuses Paid by Clubs
The maximum amount payable for any single category of Individual "A" Bonuses
identified below is $212,500 per season. (For example, an Entry Level SPC may not
contain bonuses of $212,500 for 20 goals and an additional $212,500 for 30 goals,
provided, however, it may contain a bonus of $100,000 for 20 goals and $112,500 for 30
goals). An Entry Level SPC may contain any number of Individual "A" Bonuses;
however, a Player may not receive more than $850,000 in total aggregate Individual "A"
Bonuses per season. Individual "A" Bonuses are payable by the Clubs (as opposed to the
League).
(a) Forwards
(i) Ice time (aggregate and/or per Game). Player must be among top
six (6) forwards on the Club (minimum 42 Regular Season Games
played by Player and comparison group). (Note: an Entry Level
SPC may contain bonuses for both aggregate and per Game ice
time; however, the maximum aggregate amount the Player may
receive on account of the ice time category is $212,500.)
(ii) Goals: 20 Goal Minimum
(iii) Assists: 35 Assist Minimum
(iv) Points: 60 Point Minimum
(v) Points Per Game: .73 Points Per Game Minimum (minimum 42
Regular Season Games played)
(vi) Plus-Minus Rating: Among top three (3) forwards on the Club
(minimum 42 Regular Season Games played by Player and
comparison group).
(vii) End-of-Season NHL All-Rookie Team
(viii) NHL All-Star Game (selected to play or plays)
(ix) NHL All-Star Game MVP

LUUUUUUUU 12-04-2013 05:52 PM

http://i.imgur.com/d3y2L5s.png

spideyv2 12-04-2013 06:30 PM

^loling fucking hard
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Mike Oxbig 12-04-2013 06:40 PM

is he clutch and legit in the dub?

UFO 12-04-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8375219)
Games Played bonus unattainable this year as it Cassels can't play in the NHL until after his OHL team's season is over. Has to be redone.

No word on Twitter yet whether or not there will be any circumvention penalties. Likely small fine at most.

Can anybody explain this, the circumventing component?

As I understand, ELC don't kick in until after 9 NHL games are played. The minimum games played for bonuses look like 42. What's the benefit in circumventing the cap, for $212k potential cap space, when Cassels in all likelihood won't play this season? Gillis is shrewd and even a cheap-ass mofo, but I'm not seeing it personally. Maybe part of a sign and trade scenario, but I can't imagine Cassels' trade value to be really worth much at this point

And if MG was trying to pull a fast one, which is not out of the ordinary, Cassels' agent should have caught it

Jmac 12-04-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8375321)
Can anybody explain this, the circumventing component?

As I understand, ELC don't kick in until after 9 NHL games are played. The minimum games played for bonuses look like 42. What's the benefit in circumventing the cap, for $212k potential cap space, when Cassels in all likelihood won't play this season? Gillis is shrewd and even a cheap-ass mofo, but I'm not seeing it personally. Maybe part of a sign and trade scenario, but I can't imagine Cassels' trade value to be really worth much at this point

And if MG was trying to pull a fast one, which is not out of the ordinary, Cassels' agent should have caught it

Basically, bonuses only apply within the first 3 years of the contract and, if the player doesn't play in the NHL for at least 10 games, the main salary slides, but the potential bonuses do not.

Since the 3rd year of the deal would no longer have bonuses, it circumvents the CBA and the NHLPA likely took issue with it. It would not save any cap space unless that bonus were achieved.

The Canucks will have to re-do the contract without the bonus or wait until after the Canucks' season is over to sign him.

trancehead 12-04-2013 07:47 PM

not just directed at you Big Earl, but this 'clutch and legit' shit is getting old

UFO 12-04-2013 08:15 PM

^thanks, I'm really curious if this 'circumventing' was just an oversight or if there was actual intent behind it. Why the sudden rush to have Cassels signed right now...

Jmac 12-05-2013 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8375359)
^thanks, I'm really curious if this 'circumventing' was just an oversight or if there was actual intent behind it. Why the sudden rush to have Cassels signed right now...

. I think it was mainly timing. He's out of the lineup right now with a minor injury after having played very well and the Canucks have a few days off on the tail end of an Eastern road trip.

Anyways, according to @vancanucks, the error has been rectified and Cassels has an NHL-approved contract now.

Mike Oxbig 12-05-2013 09:10 AM

Who's actually buying tickets for heritage classic?


Edit: BC place have 59,841 seats, not sure if it will sell out...


Heres the Calgary VS MTL heritage classic back in 2011


Spoon 12-05-2013 09:41 AM

Pay money to get a shitty view and freeze your ass off. Or watch the game on my lovely couch with central heating. Tough choice.

RRxtar 12-05-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 8375781)
Pay money to get a shitty view and freeze your ass off. Or watch the game on my lovely couch with central heating. Tough choice.

some people like to be part of something special, some people would rather watch on tv
goto new york for the NYE count down, or foreveralone on your couch watching it on the news

RRxtar 12-05-2013 09:47 AM

Looks like the news of TSN losing the NHL has lead to them laying off their editors.

Quote:

With the NHL having paid Wayne Gretzky the remaining funds owed to Wayne Gretzky from the Phoenix Coyotes, the rumours of his next NHL destination are in full swing.

And they're pointing to the NHL's biggest market: Toronto.

With Gretzky paid out for what is believed to be $7 to 8 million, Gretzky may be eager to get back into the NHL
Maple Leafs interested in adding Gretzky to MLSE


did the writer even proofread? lol

JKam 12-05-2013 09:48 AM

I'd go if it was $50 for decent seats..

Mike Oxbig 12-05-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 8375781)
Pay money to get a shitty view and freeze your ass off. Or watch the game on my lovely couch with central heating. Tough choice.

Im going to be part of history and probably rewatching it on my pvr when i get home lol

Speed2K 12-05-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 8375781)
Pay money to get a shitty view and freeze your ass off. Or watch the game on my lovely couch with central heating. Tough choice.

Lol, in a traditional outdoor game you might freeze your ass off, but in BC Place, not likely ! :fuckthatshit:

trancehead 12-05-2013 10:59 AM

lol it is going to rain if anything

Hondaracer 12-05-2013 11:05 AM

Cheap tickets will be had on the day of
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Vansterdam 12-05-2013 11:34 AM

i couldof sworn it said tickets go on sale to the general public at 12:30 pm today when I checked earlier this morning but buddy said it started at 11am? WTF they harsh fucked me over

can't even find any good seats :fuuuuu:

Mike Oxbig 12-05-2013 11:43 AM

initially they were suppose to start at 10am but it went live 11am lol...


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