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7seven 01-03-2014 12:24 PM

Good luck to Jovocop was always a good solider for the Canucks and great guy off the ice. Apparently no athlete has comeback successfully from this procedure. I still remember what a hip injury like this did to Bo Jackson :(


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‘I don’t think it’s ever happened’: Jovanovski cleared for remarkable comeback attempt
Mike Halford Jan 3, 2014, 2:40 PM EST

At 37, Ed Jovanovski is attempting an unprecedented comeback.

Jovanovski, sidelined since March after undergoing major hip surgery, has been cleared to play on Saturday when the Panthers host the Predators in Florida.

In doing so, the Panthers captain could become a pioneer.

Jovanovski is trying to come back from hip resurfacing, a procedure consisting of placing a metal cap over the femur and a matching metal cup in the pelvic socket. It’s less invasive than a complete hip replacement (because more of the femur is left intact), but still a significant procedure.

According to the Sun-Sentinel, returning from said procedure is uncharted territory:

It’s believed that no athlete from any of the four major professional sports has ever come back successfully after this relatively new procedure.

Former Lightning center Tim Taylor underwent hip resurfacing at 37 after the 2007 season and never played another NHL game. Bo Jackson, an NFL and MLB star, had a hip replacement in 1991 and was forced to retire at 29.

“I don’t think it’s ever happened,” said Dr. Audie Rolnick, a Plantation hip replacement surgeon, who doesn’t do resurfacing.

“Hockey of all sports, has a huge amount of stress on the joint and the hips, so I think it’s going to be pretty rough for him at 37 to come back. His skating will be fine, but it’s the crashing into the boards and other players crashing into him. The crashes will loosen up the prosthesis and cause pain.

“I would never let anyone go back to playing a sport like this.”

(Here’s a piece on Rangers pitcher Colby Lewis trying to come back from the same procedure.)

Panthers GM Dale Tallon praised Jovanovski’s dedication and hard work to getting back on the ice, especially since Jovanovski’s career appeared to be in jeopardy after missing 83 of Florida’s last 89 games.

“[Jovanovski] worked extremely hard during his extensive rehabilitation process,” Tallon said. “[He] should be commended for his diligent efforts both on and off the ice.”

Florida’s coach, Peter Horachek, is unsure how Jovanovski’s comeback will pan out.

“The way he practices he looks ready,” Horachek explained. “You’re kind of working on [uncharted] ground that hasn’t been worked on before with this surgery.”

murd0c 01-03-2014 12:37 PM

WOW good on him for working so hard I so hope he can make a come back. Even if it's only a couple games or rest of the season at least he can get the satisfaction that he tried his hardest to get back on the ice and was able to play for a couple more games rather then going out with an injury.

pastarocket 01-03-2014 01:39 PM

Torts talks to the media about our awful powerplay (ranked 26th) and possibility of Lou's return to play this weekend:

http://video.canucks.nhl.com/videoce...528027&catid=6

Bouncing Bettys 01-03-2014 01:53 PM

Shanny gets it right for once: $10,000 fine to Lupul for his cross-check to Eaves. One less pair of tailored jeans for him this month.
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/nhl/blog/lupuleaves.gif

JesseBlue 01-03-2014 02:15 PM

right? it was missing a suspension

Jmac 01-03-2014 02:23 PM

Lupul is a piece of shit.

Anyways, remember 2006 when we chose to take bottom 6ers like Kris Draper instead of offensive players because they "couldn't play in the bottom 6" and then we proceeded to get shut out in 3 of our 6 games en route to a 7th place finish?

You take the best players, period.

slicrick 01-03-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8392922)
Torts talks to the media about our awful powerplay (ranked 26th) and possibility of Lou's return to play this weekend:

Raw: Tortorella 01.03.14 Video - NHL VideoCenter - Vancouver Canucks

I'm not sure if he still does this but in NY torts didn't touch the powerplay he left it all to Mike Sullivan who torts brought with him, NY had a TERRIBLE powerplay under him even with Gaborik, Nash, Richards etc thank god he's gone if theres been one bright spot about Vigneault its the PP they went from 23rd last year (they spent most the year in the bottom 5 for PP %) to 9th as of right now with Vigneault

AzNightmare 01-03-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 8392875)
When discussing players, shit will be said. The biggest mistake the execs for team USA made was letting the media in on their discussions.

I thought their biggest mistake would be making decisions based on what they dreamt.

:derp:

Bouncing Bettys 01-03-2014 03:48 PM

- Lupul receives an un-called elbow moments earlier from Kindl.
- He goes to Eaves thinking it was him, leaning forward looking to give a physical response.
- Then he cross-checks Eaves in the shoulder which glances off and strikes him primarily in the neck. This earns him a 2min penalty.
- As Eaves falls and strikes the ice, Lupul immediately turns to see if he is ok, implying a lack of malicious intent.

Gumby 01-03-2014 04:05 PM

I didn't think Lupul's cross check there looked that bad. There have been far worse incidents that went unpunished.

At least the NHL has remained consistent on being inconsistent! :troll:

m3thods 01-03-2014 04:09 PM

^^
Malicious intent or not, a cross-check to the head (or any hit, for that matter) warrants a suspension. This isn't 1998 where you can smoke a guy in the face and expect no supplemental discipline. You may not like it, but it's the way the league needs to handle headshots going forward if they want to avoid more legal action. I just wish the NHL would wake up and just hand them out.

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8392956)
Lupul is a piece of shit.

Anyways, remember 2006 when we chose to take bottom 6ers like Kris Draper instead of offensive players because they "couldn't play in the bottom 6" and then we proceeded to get shut out in 3 of our 6 games en route to a 7th place finish?

You take the best players, period.

This is the truth. Although not an issue with Canadian teams (most of the time), chemistry must play a part in selection too (i.e. no "me-me-me" players). With that said, when I read that Kunitz might make the team based on his chemistry with Sid I almost fainted. Crosby and Team Canada seemed to do just fine without Kunitz in 2010, so if he makes it in lieu of a more "elite" player I'm going to cry.

TPMarko 01-03-2014 04:10 PM

lupul is still a piece of shit

http://bloguin.com/puckdrunklove/ima...lHitsKadri.gif

Bouncing Bettys 01-03-2014 04:16 PM

The head wasn't the primary point of contact, it was the neck which took much of the impact. Even then it really was a glance off the shoulder.

JesseBlue 01-03-2014 04:26 PM

keep on thinking that there was no malice in his response

UFO 01-03-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8393017)
The head wasn't the primary point of contact, it was the neck which took much of the impact. Even then it really was a glance off the shoulder.

"I'm sorry I was aiming for his shoulder but missed and hit his neck instead, at least it wasn't his head right?"

Jmac 01-03-2014 04:38 PM

The funny thing is that Bobby Ryan is a better skater than Corey Perry, the Sedins, and a number of other players that are locks for the Olympics.

The Sedins were over 2 points per game in the World Championships last spring on international ice.

Jmac 01-03-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8393032)
"I'm sorry I was aiming for his shoulder but missed and hit his neck instead, at least it wasn't his head right?"

It dislocated Eaves' jaw and he is experiencing concussion-like symptoms.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index....es_has_hi.html

kristianhay 01-03-2014 04:43 PM

Bouncing Bettys' homer-ism is reaching John Garrett levels here. Definite malice in Lupul's response, whether he meant to hit Eaves in the neck/head or not.

Bouncing Bettys 01-03-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseBlue (Post 8393022)
keep on thinking that there was no malice in his response

^I will. Players will often immediately respond physically to elbows, hits, slashes, etc. Some players end up receiving retaliatory penalties for their response. No denying the cross-check wasn't deserving of the penalty or the results of it weren't unfortunate. But it is part of the game. That is unless you are wishing to see the NHL give out suspensions for all 2 minute minors.

cdizzle_996 01-03-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8393048)
^I will. Players will often immediately respond physically to elbows, hits, slashes, etc. Some players end up receiving retaliatory penalties for their response. No denying the cross-check wasn't deserving of the penalty or the results of it weren't unfortunate. But it is part of the game. That is unless you are wishing to see the NHL give out suspensions for all 2 minute minors.


I don't know if you play/played hockey, but a simple two hand across the ankles would have been much more sufficient rather than a cross check to the head

Bouncing Bettys 01-03-2014 08:48 PM

I did play and if someone elbowed me in the head like Kindl did, I might have given a cross-check to the shoulder like Lupul did.

jeedee 01-03-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8392872)
Who takes the spot over Kesler? There isn't much depth in talent for the Americans
Posted via RS Mobile

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 8392867)
And tthere's no way Kesler stays on the 1st for the Americans. I don't think he's good enough
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Joe Pavelski

JesseBlue 01-03-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8393160)
I did play and if someone elbowed me in the head like Kindl did, I might have given a cross-check to the shoulder like Lupul did.

Except it wasnt the shoulder but the neck
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UFO 01-03-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cdizzle_996 (Post 8393100)
I don't know if you play/played hockey, but a simple two hand across the ankles would have been much more sufficient rather than a cross check to the head

And who better to learn the 2 hand chop from than Kessel the little bish

fliptuner 01-04-2014 07:24 AM

Awesome first semi-final in WJC.


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