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Old 02-24-2014, 04:20 PM   #10851
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You're forgetting who is filling the voids.

Lack to be our #1? That could go bad quickly. It also could be ok.

You're taking big risks and like most armchair GM's are forgetting that there's an owner breathing down their necks who don't want a mediocre team (AND WANT TO MAKE MONEY). Especially in this market. You can't possibly tell me getting rid of a goalie who's name is known around the league for a Rookie is a good business deal.
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We should be looking to downsize our 22 million dollar defense core.
But why the fuck do we care about cap?

Our team is one of the most profitable teams in the entire league. It's not like Aquaman is strapped for cash either.
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But why the fuck do we care about cap?

Our team is one of the most profitable teams in the entire league. It's not like Aquaman is strapped for cash either.
To spend more on the forwards instead. It has nothing to do with the cap.

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We also need to solidify our top 6 forwards.
H. Sedin 33 years old
D. Sedin 33 years old
R Kesler 29 years old

There is a "Void" in age group. we Need 2 to 3 guys in the early to mid 20's to support our core offense until our prospects mature.

N. Jenseon 20 year old
B. Gaunce 19 years old
B. Horvat 18 years old
H. Shinkaruk 19 years old
D. Fox 19 years old
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:04 PM   #10861
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Kevin Bieksa 32 years old 4.6 million
Dan Hamhuis 31 years old 4.5 million
Jason Garrison is 29 years old 4.6 million
Alex Edler is 27 years old 5 million
Chris Tanev is 24 years old 1.5 million but he's getting a raise or GTFO

I see an issue where our defense core is just too old.

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schneider should have been swapped for an established young player(all those years of grooming schneider and having marvellous stats) instead of a draft pick, canucks know they cant develop players for shit.

-gillis should have taken anything for luongo but he got greedy and couldnt lose face.

-should have packaged schneider and pick for a star player because now were banking on horvat/shink/gaunce to pan out or even make the nhl, where as schneider was already a bonafide #1 starter in the league.

-canucks are horribad with handling and developing young players. that grabner +1st and bernier trade for ballard still gives me the jackychanwhatfuckface since draft day that year. (team was looking for a big defenceman and then trades for a small puckmover to sit in the pressbox)

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Gillis had ADD when it comes to team building!
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We had:
#1 starter goalie Cory Schneider
# 2 center Cody Hodgson
Top 6 winger Micheal Gabner

In return.
Ballard
Booth
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Cody Hodgson isn't a #2 center and Grabner isn't a top 6 winger ... unless you have a really shitty team.
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Here is BIG fucking list of players that Gillis has drafted,signed, traded for, traded away.

Mats Sundin, Jason Labarbera, Ossi Vaananen, Eric Walsky,Shaun Heshka, Mikael Samuelsson, Andrew Raycroft, Tanner Glass, Guillaume Desbiens and Mike Funk, Mathieu Schneider,Christian Ehrhoff, Brad Lukowich, Matt Pettinger, Yann Sauve, Lee Sweatt, Chris Tanev, Manny Malhotra, Dan Hamhuis,Jeff Tambellini, Steve Bernier, Michael Grabner, Keith Ballard, Victor Oreskovich, Bill Sweatt , Raffi Torres, Darcy Hordichuk, Andrew Peters, Evan Oberg, Chris Higgins,Maxim Lapierre , MacGregor Sharp, , Marco Sturm, Andrew Ebbett, Steve Pinizzotto, Matt Climie, Mike Duco, Alexander Sulzer, Byron Bitz, Dale Weise, David Booth, Steve Reinprecht, Alexander Sulzer, Marc-Andre Gragnani, Cody Hodgson, Zack Kassian, Taylor Ellington, Sammy Pahlsson, Sebastien Erixon, Andrew Gordon, Joe Cannata, Jason Garrison, Cory Schneider.
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Here is BIG fucking list of players that Gillis has drafted,signed, traded, traded away.

Mats Sundin, Jason Labarbera, Ossi Vaananen, Eric Walsky,Shaun Heshka, Mikael Samuelsson, Andrew Raycroft, Tanner Glass, Guillaume Desbiens and Mike Funk, Mathieu Schneider,Christian Ehrhoff, Brad Lukowich, Matt Pettinger, Yann Sauve, Lee Sweatt, Chris Tanev, Manny Malhotra, Dan Hamhuis,Jeff Tambellini, Steve Bernier, Michael Grabner, Keith Ballard, Victor Oreskovich, Bill Sweatt , Raffi Torres, Darcy Hordichuk, Andrew Peters, Evan Oberg, Chris Higgins,Maxim Lapierre , MacGregor Sharp, , Marco Sturm, Andrew Ebbett, Steve Pinizzotto, Matt Climie, Mike Duco, Alexander Sulzer, Byron Bitz, Dale Weise, David Booth, Steve Reinprecht, Alexander Sulzer, Marc-Andre Gragnani, Cody Hodgson, Zack Kassian, Taylor Ellington, Sammy Pahlsson, Sebastien Erixon, Andrew Gordon, Joe Cannata, Jason Garrison, Cory Schneider.
The only thing I got from this list is taht we signed a guy named MacGregor
how was I not informed of MacGregor

what a badass name
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-canucks are horribad with handling and developing young players. that grabner +1st and bernier trade for ballard still gives me the jackychanwhatfuckface since draft day that year. (team was looking for a big defenceman and then trades for a small puckmover to sit in the pressbox)

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At that time I don't think they were looking for a big dman.

-we needed a dman when we didn't resign willie.
-game at that time was based more on speed and puck moving.
-we didn't sign hamhuis.
-Grabner wasn't able to stay in the lineup. (Raymond vs Grabner debate)
-Bernier was just Bernier, wasn't able to compete for spot.
-1st round pick end up being Howden. Have yet to establish anything yet.

As much as I put the blame on Gillis for the Ballard trade, I blame more on AV for misusing players in a way. Never really gave Ballard a chance. Look at Torts...Kassian or Sestito is out of shape? He says it and he actually does something about it and I've improvements from both of them. Not sure what exactly AV will do though.
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The only thing I got from this list is taht we signed a guy named MacGregor
how was I not informed of MacGregor

what a badass name
What I got from this is that he is horrible at making lists.
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What happened to this forum?

There is no healthy debate between members of this forum about the the Canucks.

There is a fail button for members who disagree with other members point of view.

Rather than having a fail button, debate your reasons why you would be this or do that.

Fail buttons are childish and this forums needs to grow up.
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how was I not informed of MacGregor

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We didn't sign him. We acquired him from Anaheim. He was a linemate of Mason Raymond in junior hockey.
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