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Old 09-16-2014, 10:02 AM   #701
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So smaller classes and special needs is getting thrown out of their contracts now? Thought they were waiting for a judge to rule on that still.
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So smaller classes and special needs is getting thrown out of their contracts now? Thought they were waiting for a judge to rule on that still.
Where are you reading that from? As far as I can tell given the information that is available to the public now, no details regarding the deal has been released, other than the fact that a tentative agreement has been reached, and the BCTF members (ie. the teachers) will vote on it on Thursday.
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My guess is that BCPSEA and BCTF reached an agreement on wages & benefits. The smaller classes and special needs issue will continue to be discussed.
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Thanks for the new contract, guys! Now we can get back to work just in time to take some days off!

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My guess is that BCPSEA and BCTF reached an agreement on wages & benefits. The smaller classes and special needs issue will continue to be discussed.
And BCTF's preference for this will continue to leave it up to the law courts since they have received 2 very strong rulings in their favour. The Liberals government will continue to tout that unaffordable scare tactic in attempt to sway public opinion, and should they find themselves losing out again at the court, they will very likely enact new legislation to follow through on their "promise" to increase taxes to fund the court ruling.

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Thanks for the new contract, guys! Now we can get back to work just in time to take some days off!


do you really think pro d days are just days off? You're pretty stupid if you think they're just "day offs" for teachers.

With all the shit that's going on they would probably go ahead with the pro d days just for time to set up and get up to speed, unless of course they let teachers in over the weekend to set up classrooms.

i'd fail this shit 10 more times if i could...some people are just so fucking clueless.
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do you really think pro d days are just days off? You're pretty stupid if you think they're just "day offs" for teachers.
But... but... IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS! They've just missed the first 2+ weeks of school, so what's another day right off the top, eh?
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My sister is a teacher and trust me, Pro-D days are anything but a day off for the teachers. Usually a 10 hour work day for her.
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My sister is a teacher and trust me, Pro-D days are anything but a day off for the teachers. Usually a 10 hour work day for her.
But... but... IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS! They've just missed the first 2+ weeks of school, so what's another day right off the top, eh?
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^ It's a good point.. do they really need a pro-d day when the kids have already missed so much?

However, to make it sound like a 'day off' is very wrong.. They're there as long, if not longer than a regular instruction day.
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^ It's a good point.. do they really need a pro-d day when the kids have already missed so much?

However, to make it sound like a 'day off' is very wrong.. They're there as long, if not longer than a regular instruction day.
This, the Optics are really bad regardless what typically gets done or doesn't get done on a Pro D day. It is what it is at this point I can just laugh. If they get it all setup that's good, I'm sure every teacher will be at work on Monday getting ready for the new school year.
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But... but... IT'S ALL ABOUT THE KIDS! They've just missed the first 2+ weeks of school, so what's another day right off the top, eh?
Quit rustling people's jimmies.
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A bunch of districts with pro-d days scheduled for either Friday or Monday have had them postponed or cancelled (Maple Ridge, Pitt Meadows, North Vancouver as of right now).

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Finally, wonder if the kids will be back Monday or Tuesday.
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So class size issues were dropped until court case.

So at the end of the day, what was this really about? Definitely not the kids, since it's still in the courts..
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Finally, wonder if the kids will be back Monday or Tuesday.
is it confirmed? if so, why do they call it "tentative" deal?
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is it confirmed? if so, why do they call it "tentative" deal?
No it's not confirmed but when they had the teachers vote last week, it was 99% that they wanted to go back to work. They're just waiting for the teachers to vote on Thursday. Don't see why it wouldn't be a unanimous vote again. There's a pro d day on Monday but some schools have already cancelled or postponed theirs. Would love for all schools to follow suit and have the kids back in on Monday.
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So class size issues were dropped until court case.

So at the end of the day, what was this really about? Definitely not the kids, since it's still in the courts..
as Mr. Kevin O'Leary always tells us, it's all about the money

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So class size issues were dropped until court case.

So at the end of the day, what was this really about? Definitely not the kids, since it's still in the courts..
Benefits for me (a teacher): a small salary increase that will not make up for the ~$9000 I lost during the strike (my wife is a teacher also, so my household lost ~$18000), I can quit my $13/hour manual labour job that I've been working for the past month just to have some money coming in
Benefits for students: more teachers/specialists to reduce class size and increase the diversity of programming available, the government backing off from it's intentions of ignoring previously bargained class size/composition.

No one wins and of course the students have lost the most in 5 weeks of schooling, but don't tell me that this was all about more money for me. The only silver lining I can find in this whole mess is that kids (including mine) will now have a better experience in school than if we hadn't been on strike.

Never have I been so pumped to get back to work!
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No it's not confirmed but when they had the teachers vote last week, it was 99% that they wanted to go back to work. They're just waiting for the teachers to vote on Thursday. Don't see why it wouldn't be a unanimous vote again. There's a pro d day on Monday but some schools have already cancelled or postponed theirs. Would love for all schools to follow suit and have the kids back in on Monday.
ok so from how you explain it, it sounds like it is confirmed that strike is over, they just don't know if they're gonna reopen school on Monday or Tuesday?
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Lol Timpo just really wants to get back to school.

There was such high hopes for him to pass grade 5 this year...
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There was such high hopes for him to pass grade 5 this year...
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Great news, get these kids back in the classroom and let the Teachers do there job.
There job, eh?
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