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Tim Budong 07-22-2014 11:47 PM

Hiring of that 28yr old GM who apparently loves Advanced Stats..

David Booth's Corsi numbers are amazing...

wonder if connected?

which reminds me..I should try to understand this advanced stats crap

highfive 07-23-2014 09:51 AM


So Willie really wanted Bonino?

I'm looking forward in seeing what Bonino can do this season.

Expresso 07-23-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 8506578)
Hiring of that 28yr old GM who apparently loves Advanced Stats..

David Booth's Corsi numbers are amazing...

wonder if connected?

which reminds me..I should try to understand this advanced stats crap

Oh hai Puck Daddy!

Ronin 07-23-2014 10:29 AM

All that bullshit advanced stats comes down to stuff like possession and shots for/against. They don't determine who wins the game but players that benefit their teams. Like...if you're in the opponent's zone over 50% of the time, you have a greater chance of winning the game.

Booth is the opposite of MayRay. MayRay could actually score but more often than not, the play ends on his stick because he's fallen over and lost it. Booth seldom loses the puck but can't fucking score. In the long run, Booth is a more beneficial player to the Canucks than MayRay.

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Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8506648)
http://youtu.be/EzNgverfBlA

So Willie really wanted Bonino?

I'm looking forward in seeing what Bonino can do this season.

Bonino is young and put up just as many points as Kesler last year. He doesn't have the same upside...I doubt he'll be as good as Kesler was in '11 at any point...but still.

fsy82 07-23-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 8506667)
All that bullshit advanced stats comes down to stuff like possession and shots for/against. They don't determine who wins the game but players that benefit their teams. Like...if you're in the opponent's zone over 50% of the time, you have a greater chance of winning the game.

Booth is the opposite of MayRay. MayRay could actually score but more often than not, the play ends on his stick because he's fallen over and lost it. Booth seldom loses the puck but can't fucking score. In the long run, Booth is a more beneficial player to the Canucks than MayRay.



Bonino is young and put up just as many points as Kesler last year. He doesn't have the same upside...I doubt he'll be as good as Kesler was in '11 at any point...but still.

Don't think Kesler will be as good as the Kesler of 2011. His injuries have been catching up to him physically.

Hondaracer 07-23-2014 01:44 PM

Odds are Bonino won't be anywhere near his Anaheim production because he won't be along side Getzlaf and Perry.

Also those advanced stats are seemingly a lot more about "value" than winning games. Stuff like what do you with the limit ice time you get, your turn over rate VS puck possession, scoring percentage vs shots taken

highfive 07-23-2014 01:45 PM

I think Kesler will do fine in Anaheim.

He won't be required to do as much as he did in Vancouver. The Ducks still have Getzlaf who can play all around like Kesler and Nate Thompson who can PK. Kesler's ice time will be more balanced and he won't get ride like he did by Torts.

trancehead 07-23-2014 02:36 PM

keep in mind that Justin Williams has been a corsi/fenwick (one of those two stats) god for a while. and he ended up being the playoff MVP

he may be an outlier since he is so incredibly clutch, but i believe the stats do have some weight in his abilities as well.

Jmac 07-23-2014 03:27 PM

I love how they bring this guy in after they lock up Komarov, a horrible possession player, and Robidas, ditto.

How the hell did Nonis manage to keep his job? It's fucking mindblowing ... :fulloffuck:

murd0c 07-23-2014 03:29 PM

Cause Toronto

DanHibiki 07-23-2014 03:52 PM

The worse it gets for Toronto the better

Bouncing Bettys 07-23-2014 04:20 PM

Nonis has done fine minus the Clarkson contract.

Stamkos has hinted again that he might go to Toronto when his contract is up.
http://s11.postimg.org/618n1f0ub/1406109785791.jpg

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Stamkos - Kadri

Yeah I'm bored

highfive 07-23-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8506837)
I love how they bring this guy in after they lock up Komarov, a horrible possession player, and Robidas, ditto.

How the hell did Nonis manage to keep his job? It's fucking mindblowing ... :fulloffuck:

Still don't get why they trade Joe Colborne for a 4th round pick.

Especially when your depth in C is so bad already. And then you see all the other teams out there stacking up on C.

Jmac 07-23-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8506865)
Nonis has done fine minus the Clarkson contract.

Stamkos has hinted again that he might go to Toronto when his contract is up.
http://s11.postimg.org/618n1f0ub/1406109785791.jpg

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Stamkos - Kadri

Yeah I'm bored

Bozak 1st line center with Stamkos on the team :fulloffuck:

UFO 07-23-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 8506805)
keep in mind that Justin Williams has been a corsi/fenwick (one of those two stats) god for a while. and he ended up being the playoff MVP

he may be an outlier since he is so incredibly clutch, but i believe the stats do have some weight in his abilities as well.

Booths possession stats were strong, but his shooting percentage was in the pits. Something like 4 to 5% as I recall, way lower than an avg NHL player. The analytics guys just kept on waiting and waiting for that shooting % to regress towards the mean, and still waiting... it's one thing to have strong possession stats but when you're being paid 4M+, you do need to put it in the net every once in a while. If you watched Booth (and the rest of the canucks) genuine luck was not on their side last year. I'm almost entirely sure the canucks will bounce back this year because things like luck tend to balance out over the course of time--Booth I'm not so sure we've seen a decent enough sample size and perhaps he's just one of those guys who pulls the avg shooting % down

UFO 07-23-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8506865)
Nonis has done fine minus the Clarkson contract.

You may be the first leaf fan who doesn't think Phaneuf is being overpaid!

68style 07-23-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8506876)
Bozak 1st line center with Stamkos on the team :fulloffuck:

Hey... he said he was bored... not smart.

Bouncing Bettys 07-23-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8506876)
Bozak 1st line center with Stamkos on the team :fulloffuck:

Yes of course. No one knocks Bozak out of the 1st line

Bouncing Bettys 07-23-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8506902)
Hey... he said he was bored... not smart.

Someone who can't recognize sarcasm is what then?

68style 07-23-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8506910)
Someone who can't recognize sarcasm is what then?

i was just yanking your chain bro :)

trancehead 07-23-2014 09:44 PM

leafs suck

dbaz 07-24-2014 01:06 AM

only leafs fans would think of "I'm pretty happy in Tampa" as another way of saying, "I'm coming to Toronto".

SkinnyPupp 07-24-2014 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8507165)
only leafs fans would think of "I'm pretty happy in Tampa" as another way of saying, "I'm coming to Toronto".

It is what it is

highfive 07-24-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040 5m

The #Canucks have announced the signing of first round pick Jared McCann.
I'm surprised Virtanen hasn't signed a contract yet.

murd0c 07-24-2014 10:42 AM

Good to hear McCann is signed right away tho


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