REVscene Automotive Forum

REVscene Automotive Forum (https://www.revscene.net/forums/)
-   Vancouver Auto Chat (https://www.revscene.net/forums/vancouver-auto-chat_173/)
-   -   Winter tire discussion for grown ups thread. (https://www.revscene.net/forums/699048-winter-tire-discussion-grown-ups-thread.html)

AstulzerRZD 11-16-2021 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9041223)
I have them on my work vehicle (ford transit) tbh they seem like garbage in all conditions lol

To be fair, the Ford Transit chews through any tire and brake.

I've been happy with WRG series on RAV4/Kia Soul/Rio combos.
Work great in light-medium snow when I was out in Ontario, didn't wear down terribly in the dry, and had decent wet performance still (most all weather tires suck in the wet)

whitev70r 11-16-2021 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9044793)
Fuck. It's been really tough finding wheels that fit this damn car on FB Marketplace or CL.

So I suppose I'm better off just buying a pair new off somewhere like this?

https://www.canadawheels.ca/steel-ac...vehicle=206849

Apologize for the newbie questions here, I've always just mounted winter tires on existing OEM wheels, never bothered attempting to get steelies or secondary wheels before.

You could but for a about the same as a set of steelies, $400, you could do this:

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...408591392.html

Or this - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...5672887555429/

It is infinitely better to have a dedicated set of wheels for your winter tires so that you save the mount and balance twice a year. All you have to do is bring them and have the winters taken off and summers put on. In fact, you might be able to buy a neighbour or someone here a 6 pack and they may do it with you or for you.

You need to be sure of bolt pattern (I'm pretty sure you would be 5x112 or 5x110 if 2005 or older) and make sure bore size is same (diameter of your axle). Here is website that can find your car OEM specs then you can google and search on CL and FB.

https://www.wheel-size.com/

EvoFire 11-16-2021 02:58 PM

5x112 in small sizes are a pain in the ass to find. The only alternative that uses 5x112 at small sizes is Mini.

roastpuff 11-16-2021 03:11 PM

I'm seeing quite a few 17" VW/Audi 5x112 wheels on FB/CL. Are you putting in the correct search terms?

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van...408591392.html
https://abbotsford.craigslist.org/wt...384613487.html

Teriyaki 11-16-2021 05:31 PM

I've got a set of 16" Black Steelies from my VW that I'm trying to get rid of.
Not sure if they'll clear the brakes from the newest gen though, I had them on the MK5.

mikemhg 11-16-2021 06:20 PM

^Mine is a MK7 so don't think 16" will work. If they did, I'd happily buy em.

I'll check on those options posted, I appreciate it.

Just curious what terms you were searching, Roast?

This is my first year driving this new car in the winter, I had no clue how tricky it would be finding suitable winter wheels for this car.

whitev70r 11-16-2021 06:40 PM

For search, try:
"VW 5x112 17" or,
"VW 17" or,
"5x112 17"

Under the wheels and tires section in CL. Or, you can try the above search in FB Marketplace.

Here is a set, not the prettiest but if it is just for winters - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0268342812467/

Teriyaki 11-16-2021 07:16 PM

Shouldn't be too hard to find.
$250 Denvers from a MK5/MK6

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...6-dd8c1894e88e
Just search VW Wheels, VW tires. Sometimes don't even bother with the lugs as some sellers don't know and don't list.

underscore 11-16-2021 11:38 PM

Searching for wheels/tires on FB is a nightmare, their categorization and search are useless.

roastpuff 11-17-2021 12:31 AM

FB marketplace is useless. I did find these 18s but you’ll need hub rings from 66.5 to 57.1

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...3082460498114/

mikemhg 11-17-2021 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9044899)
Searching for wheels/tires on FB is a nightmare, their categorization and search are useless.

You're telling me :lol

Been a massive pain.

Those Denver wheels are tempting, I just hate putting ugly rims like that on a brand new car :lol

Might just have to bite though.

inv4zn 11-17-2021 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9044958)
You're telling me :lol

Been a massive pain.

Those Denver wheels are tempting, I just hate putting ugly rims like that on a brand new car :lol

Might just have to bite though.

Check out dealers - when I had my Tiguan Openroad burnaby had a killlller deal for steel rims + pirelli winterzero FRs mounted and balanced and installed for $1100. Plus you get 15% in points lol. It was a special thing and they sold out in days but they were oem vw steelies too.

fliptuner 11-18-2021 11:34 AM

Hey guys, I'm selling a couple sets of 215/50R17 All Weather tires, mounted on rims, if anyone's looking. (Goodyear on TSX rims, Toyo on 5x114.3/112 aftermarket)

$100 less than listed price.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...5100441414753/

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...3706030555082/

trollface 11-21-2021 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9044901)
FB marketplace is useless. I did find these 18s but you’ll need hub rings from 66.5 to 57.1

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...3082460498114/

I've never had an issue with no hubrings.

320icar 11-21-2021 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trollface (Post 9045348)
I've never had an issue with no hubrings.

Agreed. Obviously if you *can* run hub rings that is preferred. But a lug centric setup can be done perfectly safely, but special attention needs to be taken when installing the wheels to make sure the lugs are seated properly and straight.

68style 11-21-2021 08:10 AM

320icar safety approved

Ran my Lexus at autocross with wheels that weren’t hubcentric and did not die!

roastpuff 11-21-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trollface (Post 9045348)
I've never had an issue with no hubrings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 9045350)
Agreed. Obviously if you *can* run hub rings that is preferred. But a lug centric setup can be done perfectly safely, but special attention needs to be taken when installing the wheels to make sure the lugs are seated properly and straight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9045351)
320icar safety approved

Ran my Lexus at autocross with wheels that weren’t hubcentric and did not die!

Since VW/Audi uses lug bolts I much prefer hub rings to no hub rings because otherwise getting the wheels on will be a pain in the arse to get it correctly centered. You can’t hang the wheels off a stud to align properly let’s put it that way.

A set of plastic hub rings from Lordco aren’t that much, and it’s better for peace of mind.

coneZONE 11-21-2021 11:34 AM

Yeah. Luckily I don’t work on much Euro stuff for tires anymore
Lug-centric on a lug bolt system is the worst if there’s no hub-rings, especially multi-fit steelies

I do have one experience that i think you guys should be aware.
Back story is a few years ago, i found out Fiat 500 are 4x105 and due to lack of that size, most people run 4x100 and special bolts with a conical washer that can offset. And with this knowledge, my experience a few years ago:
So there was a customer with a Volvo, and he brought in his own Volvo alloy rims from a different model, it had a larger centre bore. And those of us who know Volvos a bit, know that sometimes they use wheel nuts and wheel bolts. Some bolts are one-piece and some have a conical washer. So this guy’s OEM bolts had conical washers which have a little bit of play in them. The old tech (i was an apprentice at the time) balanced the tires, torqued the wheels, kicked it out and customer came back complained of vibration. Balanced again, no fault found. I figured out that due to the larger centre bore, and the wheel bolts with the washers had enough play so that the wheels would never be centred on the hub. I told them the easiest fix would be to get a new set of lug bolts without the separate washers. The tech wouldn’t believe me. Oh well. Lol. I don’t remember what they did, probably tried to sell the customer a new set of rims. Scammy.

snowfarmer 11-21-2021 12:06 PM

I'm a bit late to the party with this response, but here's a CL search pro tip - enter VW 17* the star is a wildcard character, it will find all responses that have the " after 17 or without the "

There are a number of different wildcard characters that can make searches better on CL. They won't really help as much on FB marketplace because it's search results are trash no matter what you enter in the search field.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...0-242cde582e0b

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9044871)
For search, try:
"VW 5x112 17" or,
"VW 17" or,
"5x112 17"

Under the wheels and tires section in CL. Or, you can try the above search in FB Marketplace.

Here is a set, not the prettiest but if it is just for winters - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...0268342812467/


320icar 11-21-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coneZONE (Post 9045363)
Yeah. Luckily I don’t work on much Euro stuff for tires anymore
Lug-centric on a lug bolt system is the worst if there’s no hub-rings, especially multi-fit steelies

I do have one experience that i think you guys should be aware.
Back story is a few years ago, i found out Fiat 500 are 4x105 and due to lack of that size, most people run 4x100 and special bolts with a conical washer that can offset. And with this knowledge, my experience a few years ago:
So there was a customer with a Volvo, and he brought in his own Volvo alloy rims from a different model, it had a larger centre bore. And those of us who know Volvos a bit, know that sometimes they use wheel nuts and wheel bolts. Some bolts are one-piece and some have a conical washer. So this guy’s OEM bolts had conical washers which have a little bit of play in them. The old tech (i was an apprentice at the time) balanced the tires, torqued the wheels, kicked it out and customer came back complained of vibration. Balanced again, no fault found. I figured out that due to the larger centre bore, and the wheel bolts with the washers had enough play so that the wheels would never be centred on the hub. I told them the easiest fix would be to get a new set of lug bolts without the separate washers. The tech wouldn’t believe me. Oh well. Lol. I don’t remember what they did, probably tried to sell the customer a new set of rims. Scammy.

I think the fiats are 4x98 but I know what you’re saying. And funny, I know the exact situation you’re talking about and that is a fantastic deduction. That being said I’ve always loved those two piece conical volvo lugs, feel like such a good product. Audi often also runs the two piece style but with a spherical seat type

coneZONE 11-21-2021 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 9045368)
I think the fiats are 4x98 but I know what you’re saying. And funny, I know the exact situation you’re talking about and that is a fantastic deduction. That being said I’ve always loved those two piece conical volvo lugs, feel like such a good product. Audi often also runs the two piece style but with a spherical seat type

Yes, i may be incorrect for the bolt pattern because I don’t remember exactly, just that it’s odd enough and off enough haha. I also feel like the two-piece bolts are a better product (when used properly) and it feels like you can more accurately torque them. Also without extra wear and tear on the seat of the bolt like the usual bolts and nuts

320icar 11-21-2021 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coneZONE (Post 9045396)
Yes, i may be incorrect for the bolt pattern because I don’t remember exactly, just that it’s odd enough and off enough haha. I also feel like the two-piece bolts are a better product (when used properly) and it feels like you can more accurately torque them. Also without extra wear and tear on the seat of the bolt like the usual bolts and nuts

100% agree. I notice it most with Toyota steel wheels and the oem lugs. Mostly because the average 90’s Toyota we get in the shop is 250k km+ so think of all the times they’ve been torqued. I always put in the work orders to recommend replacement. Only one person has ever come back with new lugs

Spectre_Cdn 11-21-2021 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 9045398)
100% agree. I notice it most with Toyota steel wheels and the oem lugs. Mostly because the average 90’s Toyota we get in the shop is 250k km+ so think of all the times they’ve been torqued. I always put in the work orders to recommend replacement. Only one person has ever come back with new lugs

That feel when lugnuts become a maintenance item :fuckyea:

bcrdukes 11-21-2021 06:49 PM

To the average Toyota owner, it feels like they're being scammed. :troll:

coneZONE 11-21-2021 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 9045398)
100% agree. I notice it most with Toyota steel wheels and the oem lugs. Mostly because the average 90’s Toyota we get in the shop is 250k km+ so think of all the times they’ve been torqued. I always put in the work orders to recommend replacement. Only one person has ever come back with new lugs

And you know that they’ve been straight gunned on for most of that 250k km so the threads are out of shape. Won’t even spin on and off by hand. Ugh, that reminds me of the expanded Toyota ones with the corrosion in between the chrome capping and the actual nut. Halfway between 21 and 22 mm. Wish they just kept using straight chromed nuts. Same with some of the Nissan shank/washer nuts.

The funniest thing, because i work at Nissan, the Snap-On guy once tried to sell us the flower shaped socket for Mercedes... uhhhh we probably see three used car a year, and we know it’s just 17mm


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:10 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net