^ Wacha order? I ordered a set of General Grabber Arctic LT (studded) and was told they'd be a month or more... Costco shows 0 tire options in the size on their site for some reason. (275/70/18).

I caved yesterday and threw the snows on in consideration of the snow in the forecast (lol - not even the tiniest hint of any here in Coquitlam this morning). I do like how the car drives though on the snows, it's more comfortable over the 18s and faster since these wheels are way lighter than the stock ones.

-Mark

I always chuckle about the same thing. Going from 35x12.50's to 33.5x11.5 for winter makes the truck feel like a race car.

tires finally came in yesterday, dropped off the wheels and picked them up today. roll smooth, they were balanced well! it was unfortunate that the shipping company lost the original tires, but 1010tires was fast to email me, let me choose a substitute and knocked $20 off each tire so they did a good job keeping the customer happy (no i didnt go full karen lol). ended up with the sailun ice blazer.

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Those look exactly like General Alti Max

They sure do. Most Chinese places just buy the old moulding/machining from the bigger brands, sometimes make minor adjustments and keep pumping out tires.

Hell, even large brands like falken have subsidiaries like Ohtsu that sell the old falken tires

Finally caved in and put on my snow tires. It was sketchy driving in the rain last night with summers and saw two separate crashes on the highway

Which makes me wonder, how much is this "new and improved" tire is actually improved and how much is marketing BS? How much more advancement in thread pattern/rubber compound still out there that hasn't been discovered?

I read so many posts about ppl saying XXX snow tire is so much better than XXX snow tire. Like really? They just copy each other's thread designs. Guys driving a 4000lb SUV can tell the X ice 4 is better than the X Ice 3?

I paid like $400 bucks for a full set of Alti Max's, how much better is a 1,200 set of Xices? According to Redflagdeals, I should be dead.

I absolutely agree. From working in a tire shop for a long time, I can say it’s 90% compound and not tread design.

For the same model of tire, the difference would be pretty negligible. Crap snow tires vs good snow tires makes a big difference though. I'll never go back to cheap ones.

I’ll have to dig up the tests I was reading about the 3 tiers of winter tires. Obviously the top tier (Michelin/Bridgestone/nokian etc) scores the best. But the difference between second tier (the rest) and third tier (import/Chinese tires) was almost nothing. So they said if you’re getting good snow tires, get top tier. Otherwise save the $$

Isn't that with every tire tho? Not just snow. Like Michelin/Conti/Hankook top tier stuff is good. Their mid tier stuff is pretty meh (like MXM4s).

Genuinely curious

How much difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2? Because the $ difference between XIce and General Alti is about 800$ lol.

Well so much for the 2-4cm they called for... a foot and counting...

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Not enough for me to pay LOL.

What size are you getting? I got xice3 last year in 255/45/18 for 1200.

A $800 difference would make it $400 for me to get Altimax, at that price hell yeah I would have gotten Altimax and done burnouts with it lol

Picked up a set of X-ice 3's size 225/40/18's for $868 taxes in @ Canadian Tire today. Bought the last set of 2018's production...was a solid deal.

205/55/16. Got them brand new for $400 from quattro tire last year.

https://www.quattrotires.com/tires/a...tuddable/24479

What's a decent deal for a "2nd tier' winter tire for a '19 Civic EX sedan?

They want 1200 for xice in 16"? Crack pipe much?

I'd say in terms of pure snow chomping powers it's not that big a diff but you do get other benefits from the best brands like better dry/wet performance and lower road noise. For a city that doesn't get a tonne of snow a winter tire's dry/wet performance can be a meaningful thing and lower road noise adds up too. I ran a set of shitty Champiro winter tires way back and couldn't believe how noisy they were - to the point that I didn't want to drive the car unless I had to. In contrast my Continental TS850Ps are better than the shitty all-seasons my RDX came with - low noise, handles nice, good dry/wet grip.

That said, a set of $400 Altimax's is a raging deal. That's a good solid tire and for that kind of money it's a no brainer.

I think that 400 price is for all 4, not each... Atleast, I hope so?

Four.

Local shops are a rippppppppp

where can i get a set of new winters for $400?