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I dont think it would help me much... I already have some sources to try and file some kind of claim.
I just hope it would rely something to the police database not to pick on me in the future... specially because I'll be driving a kit car one day.
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As if Canada is so great and righteous.
Mossad agents were caught with truck bombs on the morning of 911 (see NY police audio online), yet Canada sends its troops to afghanistan to find Bin Laden (CIA name Tim Osman), we kill a shit load of people and one of our soldiers sets the longest sniper kill shot recorded in history... then our American counter parts are protecting poppy fields (as video documentation is shown with Geraldo Rivera) to keep its export, to this day!!!!, at 90%, then our Canadian soldiers come home and some of them go into the police force where they go into dangerous life threatening situations fighting (dealers and users) the very Opium (Heroin) plight that they helped liberate for its production.
Yes what a great country.
I never said it was or wasn't. You point out "flaws" yet fail to have even a vaguely reasonable ideal for how the world should work. If you're going to keep going on about how horrible everything is, perhaps start coming up with some viable alternatives?
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
I never said it was or wasn't. You point out "flaws" yet fail to have even a vaguely reasonable ideal for how the world should work. If you're going to keep going on about how horrible everything is, perhaps start coming up with some viable alternatives?
the only viable alternative here is his own society with his own views/laws.
I never said it was or wasn't. You point out "flaws" yet fail to have even a vaguely reasonable ideal for how the world should work. If you're going to keep going on about how horrible everything is, perhaps start coming up with some viable alternatives?
You see, it's not Canada he has issue with, it's the whole damn planet.
I will never be a king or prophet to set standards of living... but if I had some kind of power, I would start with where all the money off natural resources is going.
Its around midnight and Im coming home in my mothers van and get pulled over at Hastings and Granville.
There reason being that the van is registered to a female and they noticed me driving being a male of course.
(My mothers insurance allows for other drivers to operate the car.)
Was I discriminated against here?
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Dont they need probable cause?
The police officer was a lady with a male passenger and another backup car that arrived soon after.
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I want to cash in on any of my rights being violated in this police state.
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Im not really "back"... and I still have you on my ignore list
@SpeedStars
I guess where we're at is if these police assumptions are actually probable cause in the laws... anyone know for sure?
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p.s. I had been ticketed in the past in the same van a year ago (with the same insurance clause to have others operate it).
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My day started out after seeing a car flipped on its side at the Chevron gas station on Georgia (took video) then I went to replace my flat tire on my 300zx which was so low to the ground that I had to use 4 different jacks replace it... I finished up at around 7pm, visited my fathers house and finally came home to this police state bullshit.
My license had expired and they gave me a $280 no license ticket... but they were nice enough not to tow my car and have my mother come and drive the van home for their police state tactics.
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Smallest things? Names these...
I had three people with guns surround me for not doing anything wrong but "not matching the registered owner".
This story gets better and better every time he tells it. I'm waiting for it to turn into the Blues Brothers...
(Spoilered for PTSD)
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Is this your second time saying this? I saw the first similar message but the post got deleted and user probably banned....
so tell me... why jimmies rustled?
So, I'm curious...if you need health care, do you expect Canada's public health care system to take care of you? How about if you injure yourself via a home-improvement project, sport or by slipping down the stairs?
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Not if I lived in a poor country like Afghanistan that was ravaged by Imperialist... (I believe Wallstreet controlled Russia late into its break up).
If I go to the hospital and there are a lack of staff, lack of medical equipment, lack everything... then I wouldn't expect to get treated properly.
Canada is in the top 5 resource rich countries in the world, specially with its low ~30 million population.
So you do expect Canada to treat you for such injuries then . Guess what? You are now using other people's tax dollar. If it was a car accident, you are now also using their insurance policy. So it's ok that you don't pay into it but can use it for yourself.
Do you think Canadian hospitals will deny you treatment if you have an outstanding debt with ICBC, perhaps even for a student loan?
I can imagine the US is like that...no funds for your heart surgery and they'll just let you die on the floor.
I dont know if that facepalm was for me or not... but it sure doesnt make sense to be paying tax dollars into the medical system (which is what a 45% fake inflated cost of all of our budget?) then here is ICBC wanting medical treatment insurance fees on top of that. We're paying twice.
they're not really allowed to random stop, however, it was argued many many years ago (80s iirc) that random stops is a reasonable limit on the Charter as it deals with public/road safety which is a benefit to the gen pop
so they are allowed to random stop
got bored and looked into this.
what CiC originally wanted i believe is to make a complaint based on what he felt as his section 9 charter right being violated.
s.9 of the charter is as follows:
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Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
the relevant case law though which you referred to in your post that lists the reasons why police can stop CiC in his mom's van is as follows:
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R. v. Mellenthin (1992):
"The aim of check stops is to check for sobriety, licences, ownership, insurance, and the mechanical fitness of vehicles."
Nice!
Its established that ownership and insurance of cars are almost relayed in real time to the laptop.
If they pulled me over because they presumed I was the same driver with the expired license, that presumption may not have been allowed.
So they made it fall under not matching the registered owner.
To use that excuse, where does the line get crossed on violating charter rights for "arbitrarily detainment".
Nice!
Its established that ownership and insurance of cars are almost relayed in real time to the laptop.
If they pulled me over because they presumed I was the same driver with the expired license, that presumption may not have been allowed.
So they made it fall under not matching the registered owner.
To use that excuse, where does the line get crossed on violating charter rights for "arbitrarily detainment".
that doesnt make any sense though. they didnt violate your charter rights because they're allowed to pull you over to check whether or not you have a valid driver's licence.
Do you think Canadian hospitals will deny you treatment if you have an outstanding debt with ICBC, perhaps even for a student loan?
I can imagine the US is like that...no funds for your heart surgery and they'll just let you die on the floor.
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I dont know if that facepalm was for me or not... but it sure doesnt make sense to be paying tax dollars into the medical system (which is what a 45% fake inflated cost of all of our budget?) then here is ICBC wanting medical treatment insurance fees on top of that. We're paying twice.
you do know that not all health care related costs are covered by canada right? you would need to make 3rd party claims for some.
i am specifically talking about motor vehicle incidents. sure, you're covered for your GP and xrays and what not. but guess where the liability part kicks in. its when shit doesn't get covered and you would be using that insurance policy to cover yourself. thats what icbc insurance is for. not to mention the cost to cover the damage of the vehicle itself.
What is a great costing medical expense? A disability over many, many years. What ICBC offers may be as great as the monthly offer of what our disability welfare programs offer.
Im sure rich people dont even go through ICBC for life tragedy accidents.
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Looking at the definition of arbitrary.
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Arbitrariness is the quality of being "determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle
The police made an arbitrary (on chance) decision to find me (knowing my license was expired) behind the wheel taking into account my brother or another similar looking males (they have my picture on the laptop) couldve been behind the wheel instead... holding a valid license.
But police used the excuse of "not matching owner."
So I may have to use the arbitrary (on whim) argument that they profiled me as a thief.
We'll see what the offices say after I call later in the week.
it could be anything CiC. could be specialists or special equipment or special treatment. who knows. but the fact is, if an accident occurred, you would be billing icbc. but without insurance, good luck with that.
i don't even know why you bothered with the welfare program when i am specifically talking about icbc insurance. it doesn't matter what the offer is, but if theres an accident, you only go through icbc or whatever 3rd party insurance you decided to go with for the appropriate claims.
The Queen tries to make a harmonious environment for her worker bees to function. High ICBC premiums could just be way to keep a fraction of poor people off the street and lessen traffic.
We dont really know how much ICBC spends on replacing cars or limbs... but we do know they all originate back to the City of London.
Canada is so rich, we'd have jobs making these running through Vancouver with new bridges. Instead we have zombie droves of video game players and porn fanatics.
p.s. I would never put my faith in an ICBC policy as we hear of people always disputing what they think was deserved. I would only go to a reputable corporation.
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Seems like a lot of work.. anyone is welcome to link this thread to see the responses.
