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Still can't get over the fact you want to be compensated for PTSD. It must be so traumatic whenever you hear the sirens and lights flashing everywhere from your flashbacks...
The fact of seeing a Dodge Charger (police car or not) now has given me PTSD.
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If the police target you for having your windows down because you might be drunk? Then good. It'll catch people that are actually drunk. Once they realize you're not drunk, you'll be on your way after a minute or two of stopping at the side of the road. That seems like a small price to pay to get drunk drivers off the roads. If that gives you PTSD, then you're just weird.
Our society revolves around the promotion of sex, drugs/alcohol, and materialism... fix that before rebutting with crocodile tears on how these police state stops are acceptable to save people.
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Don't blame the police for doing their job by keeping drunk drivers off the road, blame the people in our society who drink and drive and keeping their windows rolled down. If 15/30 people in a crowd have stolen something... all 30 people will be stopped and searched. If the 15 innocent have nothing to hide, they'll be on their way in seconds.
If you had problems with the police about driving without insurance IN THE SAME vehicle, don't blame them for pulling you over to check if your insurance is valid. You're either pissed because you WILL have something to hide in the future or you just don't understand that it is their job to enforce the law.
It's a free society because we have laws. You keep saying police state, this is nothing like police state. When you have check points at every entrance to Richmond from Vancouver, Burnaby to Surrey, that's police state. Just think about it for a second if police weren't doing their job and have people running around stealing, killing, drinking and driving, etc. You'll find something else to complain about.
Check points between towns like in Isreal is the not the definition of a police state.
I can write a whole page on how we live in a police state for the sheeple to understand... but I'll let these pictures do the talking of whats to come rather then waste energy.
I told you it had already been decided that random stops under the motor vehicle act was deemed a reasonable imposition on the charter (was just too lazy to dig out the specific info), you won't have a charter argument but being mad about it is expected and there's nothing wrong with that (since it is an infringement on your rights, just a reasonable one)
as for Legal Aid, the Liberals have decimated it over the years they've been in power that's why you won't get it unless it's a serious case with the possibility of serious jail time
I read that the race or ethnicity of suspects pulled over in Canada is not recorded. Does this mean they can profile people all day long and no Charter Rights are broken? If its not a Charter Rights violation... its some kind of violation... I'll file at the U.N. if no options are available.
@mr_chin
What are the five main points of a police state to you?
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Do you agree with this definition?
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: a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures
The fact of seeing a Dodge Charger (police car or not) now has given me PTSD.
If its not a Charter Rights violation... its some kind of violation... I'll file at the U.N. if no options are available.
LOL PTSD! LOLOL.
Also, please let us all know how your "U.N. Filing" goes. Share with the rest of RevScene how successful you are with your Human Rights violation claim.
What Human Right exactly will you be claiming to be violated?
Is it the native Americans and immigrant Hispanics that are the visible minorities in Canada and are associated with higher incidents of crime?
Would you see a problem with setting up a police road check coming into downtown and pulling those ethnicity over to double check their papers and look for drugs, weapons, and tools for stealing?
Is it the native Americans and immigrant Hispanics that are the visible minorities in Canada and are associated with higher incidents of crime?
Would you see a problem with setting up a police road check coming into downtown and pulling those ethnicity over to double check their papers and look for drugs, weapons, and tools for stealing?
As you are ignorant to the law and the history of how the law has affected people...I will enlighten you by letting you know that gender unlike race and ethnicity, are not subject to higher scrutiny. Legally, race and ethnicity have had a long-standing history of misrepresentation and marginalization in front of the law and gender (especially the male gender), simply has not.
Secondly, there is a fundamental difference between stopping someone at random because a police officer ran the vehicle tags and realized that a vehicle registered to a female was being driven by a male and with police purposefully pulling over minorities to look for drugs, weapons and tools for stealing.
Again, what human rights violation was made by your police stop?
You can sit here and cry all you want on an online forum but I suggest you put your money where you mouth is and prove everyone wrong who sees right through your bullshit. If you seriously believe you have standing, make a human rights claim with the U.N. as you suggested, file a civil rights claim with the Federal Government, and show us some action rather than you mouth running; or in this case, your fingers typing on a keyboard.
..I will enlighten you by letting you know that gender unlike race and ethnicity, are not subject to higher scrutiny. Legally, race and ethnicity have had a long-standing history of misrepresentation and marginalization in front of the law and gender (especially the male gender), simply has not.
Men are the hunter gatherers, its often them committing crimes to feed their families or drug problems (women easily sell their bodies)... so yes they are subject to higher scrutiny.
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Secondly, there is a fundamental difference between stopping someone at random because a police officer ran the vehicle tags and realized that a vehicle registered to a female was being driven by a male and with police purposefully pulling over minorities to look for drugs, weapons and tools for stealing.
So going by your logic this gives legality to pull over millions of drivers in Canada as millions upon millions let other people (family members and friends) drive their car.
its not a good excuse to cover up police state tactics.
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Again, what human rights violation was made by your police stop?
Its like I asked you in my last post... so your Indian (telling from your user name) and people of your ethnicity are prominently living in Surrey. Would there be any human rights violations if police setup road checks before bridges going into the lower mainland and obviously stopping to check all Indians papers?
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You can sit here and cry all you want on an online forum but I suggest you put your money where you mouth is and prove everyone wrong who sees right through your bullshit. If you seriously believe you have standing, make a human rights claim with the U.N. as you suggested, file a civil rights claim with the Federal Government, and show us some action rather than you mouth running; or in this case, your fingers typing on a keyboard.
You dont need to come into this thread and read about me running my mouth. I'll take action when I want.
Our society revolves around the promotion of sex, drugs/alcohol, and materialism... fix that before rebutting with crocodile tears on how these police state stops are acceptable to save people.
What's there to fix?
Sex, drugs, alcohol and materialism are all awesome.
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... so your Indian (telling from your user name)
OMG! PTSD!! You just called me Indian based on my profile name. Racial-profiling! WoW, I expect this type of discriminatory behaviour from the police but not from someone with such high stature and amazing grammar such as yourself!
You'll be hearing from the United Nations Civil Rights Tribunal very soon! They told me after they decide on this genocide case they're looking at from Uganda, my case is next in line.
My Indian school mate is named Parm, an Indian origin name... and yes when police look at your name, they will judge you not because there are many intellectual Indians in university, as doctors, or trolls that scrutinize about grammar... they think of the Indian gangsters living the thug life.
If someone is named Arash, people familiar with Iranian names will in your logic "profile" that person as being Iranian. This is offensive?
How does this work Dave... would Iranians be the expectation to your rule if they recognize Arash as being Iranian? or is everyone a racist profiler for associating names to country of origin???
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How does this work Dave...
I'm quite confident no one can figure out how things 'work' in your head. You're the one that has problems with non-existent profiling, but then demonstrate clear profiling in your own posts...so really, it is you that should be explaining how this works, no?
The fact of seeing a Dodge Charger (police car or not) now has given me PTSD.
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Check points between towns like in Isreal is the not the definition of a police state.
Why aren't you living in Israel then? I mean aside from the fact you can't spell it properly... it's clearly not a police state, they don't have black Dodge Chargers as cop cars, and there are more Zionists than you can shake a stick at. It's also not prone to ocean-drifting Fukushima radiation.
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Why aren't you living in Israel then? I mean aside from the fact you can't spell it properly... it's clearly not a police state, they don't have black Dodge Chargers as cop cars, and there are more Zionists than you can shake a stick at. It's also not prone to ocean-drifting Fukushima radiation.
My point was that check points between towns alone is not the singular definition of a police state. Modern day israhell also doesnt deserve to be spelt as ancient Israel.
Police can pull you over for whatever. Honestly. It's up to you to fight it if you feel your rights were violated. You put up a stink during that situation then you're gonna get tagged for resisting. But, driving your mom's van, registered to her and a male is driving? For sure they want to make sure the vehicle isn't stolen. Happens all the time. Good for the cops for being up on that shit.
@white rocket
Just to empathize, Im not delusional about there being actual true rights in this country... our citizenship\birth certificate makes us a corporate own entity.
It gives us something to do. Some peeps just stir the pot and some create a pot to be stirred. Honestly, if creating a thread for the most ridiculous shit ever was a crime then CiC should be serving a life sentence.
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