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Old 03-14-2015, 10:24 PM   #201
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The definition of detained should come from the old "Blacks Law" dictionaries.
The case posted earlier talks about police stops like this being against the Charter Rights.
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i think that i should point out that R. v. Ladouceur states that the random stop is a charter violation, HOWEVER, it is deemed reasonable under section 1 of the charter.


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The violation of section 9 was justified as a reasonable limitation under section 1. The government successfully established that there was a pressing and substantial objective of increasing highway safety, and that random stops were an effective means of achieving the objective through deterrence. This position was further supported by evidence of its effectiveness in other countries as well.
case in point, you operating a motor vehicle without a valid licence.
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Or its possible you could have "Stockholm syndrome and are being an apologists for the system.

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You have many questions here... Im sure other members have the answer to a good number of them... its better I wait it out for others to chime in too.
why can't you chime in and answer them?
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For one me you and Mr.Chin were having a debate over me stating "my car"... when in fact it was established from the first post whom the vans ownership and insurance belongs to.
Other questions are if police cars are picking up plate numbers??? this have been known for years am I not correct?? why should I be cleaning up here... other should chime in.

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But who keeps a tab on how many random stops are made and on which ethnicity?
Is a U.N. filed case the only worth while accountability on our statistics? I bet so.
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For one me you and Mr.Chin were having a debate over me stating "my car"... when in fact it was established from the first post whom the vans ownership belongs to.

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But who keeps a tab on how many random stops are made and on which ethnicity?
Is a U.N. filed case the only worth while accountability on our statistics? I bet so.
i dont think a tab is necessary though to be honest.

statistics are however you read them. if there is a majority population of a certain race, say asian in richmond, then of course the stats will show that a majority of the people being pulled over are minority (as a racial class) members.
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Guys, I'm not sure why you're expecting to get a direct answer from CiC (and not just ludicrous amounts of side stepping and deflecting). If you've ever followed any threads by CiC, all he does is speculate and have conjecture.

A few pages back, he mistakenly used 360 degrees when he meant 180 degrees. Despite this being a fairly minor mistake, when confronted with it, he just side stepped it and went on to spew more nonsense instead of a simple 'You're right, I'm wrong. My bad.'.
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i think CiC may make a perfect politician.
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Guys, I'm not sure why you're expecting to get a direct answer from CiC (and not just ludicrous amounts of side stepping and deflecting). If you've ever followed any threads by CiC, all he does is speculate and have conjecture.

A few pages back, he mistakenly used 360 degrees when he meant 180 degrees. Despite this being a fairly minor mistake, when confronted with it, he just side stepped it and went on to spew more nonsense instead of a simple 'You're right, I'm wrong. My bad.'.
Have you ever suffered from PTSD? NO? That's what I thought.

This guy clearly had a traumatic incident being pulled over by Law Enforcement. Most people in this world have no idea what it feels like to be pulled over by the police. Of course he's going to be a little loopy and mix up things like 180 degrees and 360 degrees. It's apart of PTSD! HELLO!
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This whole thread has me searching CL for a black charger...just so I can cruise DT Vancouver at night. I'm thinking of getting a horn which will allow me to do the "whoop-whoop" whenever I see a minivan.

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Anyone else starting to think CiC coming back is just a ploy by the staff to increase posting and conversation again, like those funny posts the site account was making a while back? It seems a lot more plausible than someone actually being this dense.

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You can't pick and choose a definition of a word that's different from the definition used by the document that contains the word. No court, not even the UN, gives a flying fuck what you think the definition "should" be, only what the definition actually is.
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Or its possible you could have "Stockholm syndrome and are being an apologists for the system.

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You have many questions here... Im sure other members have the answer to a good number of them... its better I wait it out for others to chime in too.
But don't you see and realize that only you here who is... how can I put it... the odd one? Outcast? Nobody else is siding with your case, so why do you think that other members would and should chime in on my questions to you?

You don't have to answer that.

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For one me you and Mr.Chin were having a debate over me stating "my car"... when in fact it was established from the first post whom the vans ownership and insurance belongs to.
Other questions are if police cars are picking up plate numbers??? this have been known for years am I not correct?? why should I be cleaning up here... other should chime in.

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But who keeps a tab on how many random stops are made and on which ethnicity?
Is a U.N. filed case the only worth while accountability on our statistics? I bet so.
There were more questions other than who's the owner and if police cars are picking up plates. Questions that dig a little deeper into your thoughts and opinions which you clearly have intention to avoid.

Don't worry... like I've stated, you don't have to answer anything if you don't want to because it's your rights. You clearly know the answers to those questions and knowing that if you had openly answered them, you, I, and everybody on this forum will realize that you're just a moron who refuse to accept reality.
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Yeah okay Im a moron and you're the big genius... Im putting you on ignore for two weeks for your tiring comments. If your questions (some already addressed but repeated by you again) were truly worthy ones, Im sure other members will repost them one by one now for me to individually address.

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i dont think a tab is necessary though to be honest.

statistics are however you read them. if there is a majority population of a certain race, say asian in richmond, then of course the stats will show that a majority of the people being pulled over are minority (as a racial class) members.
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lol, your superiority complex is never ending.
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So because it happened to you on a regular basis, you think police officers are doing that to citizens of Vancouver?

You don't have to answer that, but if your answer is yes, you are truly a moron.

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If you found and had a gun in possession, do you tell police officers that it's your gun?

If you accidentally took your co-worker's coffee cup and poured coffee in it... do you tell him that it was your cup?

You don't have to answer those. But if your answer is yes to both those question, you are truly a moron and this behavior is similar to a 10 year old's.
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Don't worry... like I've stated, you don't have to answer anything if you don't want to because it's your rights. You clearly know the answers to those questions and knowing that if you had openly answered them, you, I, and everybody on this forum will realize that you're just a moron who refuse to accept reality.
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Yeah okay Im a moron and you're the big genius... Im putting you on ignore for two weeks for your tiring comments. If your questions (some already addressed but repeated by you again) were truly worthy ones, Im sure other members will repost them one by one now for me to individually address.
I never called you a moron unless you applied to the "if's" throughout my posts... and since you just claimed yourself to be a moron... your answers to the first three questions in these quotes are "yes"... and you've just somehow openly answered all my questioned.

Thank you, I am done here.
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LOL @ CiC.

you really seem to have quite some knowledge on police technology.

1) these types of cameras would have to be mounted for them to scan your plates. these can also be seen in new west bylaw enforcement vehicles. to be honest, i have yet to see actual police cars with them. if i recall, this technology is quite expensive and i doubt EVERY cop car would have it just to scan for your plates. for the most part, i see the cop manually punching in the plate numbers on their laptops.



2) lets play a bit here, lets say they DID scan your plates and they added notes on your repeated offenses based on the plates. REGARDLESS who is driving the car, they would still simply pull you over. if it was you that was driving, great. they just caught you in the act again, and pull you off the streets, HENCE, providing a safer environment for ALL. if it WASN'T you driving, then they would simply let that said person go and everyone is on their merry way (provided everything checks out).

They would not even have to profile you or make assumptions on ANYTHING. they are simply doing their job, and FOLLOWING up.

what bugs me is that they didn't do more than just ticket you. clearly you have no respect for the law and have constantly broken the law. and for the foreseeable future, continue to do so. i hope you get caught more often. i don't need my rates going up because of you.

icbc needs to come up with another tactic to collect these tickets for you freeman people.
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A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire subreddit consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called "grilledcheese" is nothing short of utter blasphemy. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled "melts" because that is not a fucking grilled cheese. I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over reddit and it's been driving me insane. The moment i saw this subreddit this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now.
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2) lets play a bit here, lets say they DID scan your plates and they added notes on your repeated offenses based on the plates. REGARDLESS who is driving the car, they would still simply pull you over. if it was you that was driving, great. they just caught you in the act again, and pull you off the streets, HENCE, providing a safer environment for ALL. if it WASN'T you driving, then they would simply let that said person go and everyone is on their merry way (provided everything checks out).
So lets say Tim the tool man has a son with an outstanding student debt and has recently had ICBC take his license away.

So your free society would have police pull over these type of cars that match Tim's description.... a male in the family with an expired license plate?
Maybe your police state society would at least put a threshold on the number of stops allowed for a family shared car?

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