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Old 05-25-2016, 07:48 PM   #8951
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I sure hope not. We need to continue developing our young players with another season of losing and being in the draft lottery.
From what everybody has said from Sedins up to management, looks like last year was it for the rebuild and they think the cupboards are well stocked enough. I don't fully disagree, you can draft good players deeper on in the rounds as well (ie. Boeser style), but you're hoping a lot harder obviously that the player will hit.
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Gaunce will be on the wing to start the season if he makes the team/isn't traded
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Hopefully we can get back a 2nd via trade, but overall I like the trade.
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McCann shouldn't have picked 91 as his number. Can't take stamkos's number. Lol
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since he couldn't pick 19 he went with 91
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Ironic that this guy prides himself on being an excellent scout and then turns around and trades all his draft picks away like they're candy.
he makes his bullets count


srsly tho, that 33rd overall is practically a first rounder.... I'm excited about Gudbranson and am okay with giving up McCann for him, gotta give something to get something, but those two picks going the other way hurt
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No one mentioning that we still get a 2nd rounder for torts, so that may have come into the thinking
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No one mentioning that we still get a 2nd rounder for torts, so that may have come into the thinking
Probably going to be a 2018 2nd, though.
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if Dim Jim somehow recoups a 2nd round pick for this year's draft, i'd be happy with the trade.
doubt it though, the guy is good at giving em away but he fuckin sucks at acquiring em

Trade prolly went something like this:

Dim Jim; we're interested in Gudbranson
Rowe: ok, we want Virtanen
Dim Jim: *looks at Trevor*
Trevor: *shakes head* washroom brb
Dim Jim: no can do, what about McCann?
Rowe: Let me discuss with my team

Tallon: sounds like pretty good deal, ask him about a pick too. Aim high
Rowe: u sure?
Tallon: yeah, throw in a late pick or some shit to make it seem fair. Do it now before Trevor comes back from the john
Rowe: k

Rowe: alright Jim, we'll make the trade. Tell you what, i'll give you a deal, i'll throw in our fifth if you throw in your first. 5 is a bigger number than 1.
Dim Jim: hmmm...Trevor was saying something about franchise player with 1. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal tho. Lemme wait for him just in case.
Rowe: No! wait! nvm 1, how bout 2, now or never Jimbo!
Dim Jim: Done deal! *completes*
Trevor: *flushes toilet and comes out* What'd I...goddamn it Jim. 2 is higher than 5 not the other way around
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I'm actually surprised Benning hasn't targeted any of the Jets dman yet. Their blue line is going to cost them!

Buff, Enstrom, Myers is already $17 mil? and Trouba's extension?


That being said, I think the sharks proved that a re-tool can happen and that you don't have to rebuild. Look at how they kept Thorton and Marleau. Added depth players. Signed European players and look at what they've done this year.
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Sharks didn't trade Hertl, Goldobin, Meier, Muller, etc. for older underachievers ...
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I'm actually surprised Benning hasn't targeted any of the Jets dman yet. Their blue line is going to cost them!

Buff, Enstrom, Myers is already $17 mil? and Trouba's extension?


That being said, I think the sharks proved that a re-tool can happen and that you don't have to rebuild. Look at how they kept Thorton and Marleau. Added depth players. Signed European players and look at what they've done this year.
Winnipeg has the deepest prospect pool in the league. The Jets need players that can help them right now and that's not something the Canucks have to give away.

The Sharks wanted Thornton and Marleau out but neither player wanted to go. Both are 36, have 1 season left at $6+ million and have no movement clauses. The team stripped both players of their captaincy and took most of the blame for being unable to go deep in the playoffs. The Sharks have always been a good regular season team with Thornton and Marleau but they finally played hot at the right time this year.
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if Dim Jim somehow recoups a 2nd round pick for this year's draft, i'd be happy with the trade.
doubt it though, the guy is good at giving em away but he fuckin sucks at acquiring em

Trade prolly went something like this:

Dim Jim; we're interested in Gudbranson
Rowe: ok, we want Virtanen
Dim Jim: *looks at Trevor*
Trevor: *shakes head* washroom brb
Dim Jim: no can do, what about McCann?
Rowe: Let me discuss with my team

Tallon: sounds like pretty good deal, ask him about a pick too. Aim high
Rowe: u sure?
Tallon: yeah, throw in a late pick or some shit to make it seem fair. Do it now before Trevor comes back from the john
Rowe: k

Rowe: alright Jim, we'll make the trade. Tell you what, i'll give you a deal, i'll throw in our fifth if you throw in your first. 5 is a bigger number than 1.
Dim Jim: hmmm...Trevor was saying something about franchise player with 1. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal tho. Lemme wait for him just in case.
Rowe: No! wait! nvm 1, how bout 2, now or never Jimbo!
Dim Jim: Done deal! *completes*
Trevor: *flushes toilet and comes out* What'd I...goddamn it Jim. 2 is higher than 5 not the other way around
If CBJ grants us the 2016 2nd pick, I'll be happy.
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Leafs must be doing cartwheels now that the Sharks made it to the Cup Final. They get a third round draft pick in 2018 from San Jose in the Reimer trade. An upgrade from fourth round to third round draft pick.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/m...-reimer-trade/
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Wouldn't this imply that losing Gudbranson isn't a big deal?
How did you interpret it that way?

Some Panthers fans were convinced he was going to be the Captain in the future. Unless you're Dustin Brown, captains are usually good players on the team.
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I'm actually surprised Benning hasn't targeted any of the Jets dman yet. Their blue line is going to cost them!

Buff, Enstrom, Myers is already $17 mil? and Trouba's extension?
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Jets have so many young forwards that could be in their roster next year. ehlers(20) , scheifele(23), dano(21), armia (22), burmistrov(24), lowry (23), copp (21), ), laine (18).

and then the ahl players who could push: petan (21), lemiuex(20)

that's a lot of elc/rfa contracts to keep their cap down. they could be fucked pretty bad in the future if they throw money at burmistrov/schiefele tho
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^ that's a pretty nice problem to have

I just hope Gudbranson doesn't become the next Cam Barker
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How did you interpret it that way?

Some Panthers fans were convinced he was going to be the Captain in the future. Unless you're Dustin Brown, captains are usually good players on the team.
What about Ekblad being the next Panthers captain, if/when Mitchell retires?
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What about Ekblad being the next Panthers captain, if/when Mitchell retires?
Well, I guess that'll have to be the case now since we just took Gudbranson from them.

I honestly don't know much about Gudbranson. I just went on HFBoards Panther's section to check out reactions. It's most likely an over value statement, but I'm happy to know at least not every Panther fan feels like they fleeced us on that trade.
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From everything I have read about Gudbranson, he is a 4th d-man at best, with average skills in every category. He will never top 20 points in a season, and he doesn't do anything bad, but he isn't great at anything either. Good skating, decent first pass, decent hockey IQ. He is a big body to clear the front of the net, and is supposedly great in the locker room. Probably not going to ever be a Top pairing d-man, unless he radically changes in Vancouver.

I'm fine with losing McCann for Gudbranson, but that 2nd round pick is going to hurt. A lot. 33rd overall could have possibly allowed Vancouver to select that type of d-man if they scouts did their job. There are usually some major gems early in the 2nd round of every draft.

Plus, isn't Tryamkin almost exactly the same as Gudbranson? Why have two players that play a similar game? Additionally, Gudbranson has one season left at $3.5 million. He is going to want a raise after that. Is a stay at home defenseman who averages 10 points a season worth $5 million a year or more?

I was hoping the Canucks would select Julolevi in the 5th spot, but now it looks like it will be Dubois (if he is still available at 5). Not a bad choice, but I think the Canucks really really need a strong puck moving defenseman that can anchor a powerplay, because this team currently has 0 players that can do the job. Maybe Hutton, but that remains to be seen.

I think this is a trade that Canucks fans will regret in a couple years.
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it just came out that Gudbranson turned down a 4 year 18mill offer by the Panthers.... He doesn't deserve close to that since he hasn't done a thing in the league so far WTF
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