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Old 06-02-2019, 11:18 PM   #651
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Helping in-laws to gather infos.

Any recommended electrician to install a charger? (either Nema or Tesla Wall charger)

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If you want to just use the charger that comes with the car you only need a range (oven) plug in the garage. My electrician neighbour did it for me.
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that is so stupid to hear people already paid off a fuel efficient car that gets amazing fuel mileage with a bullet proof Japanese engine than decide to buy a Tesla getting rid of it.

i'd never do that knowing what a brand new Tesla costs,secondly,how many years it would take to pay for its self or somewhat reward you not buying fuel,people aren't including tires and what surprises the car might have for you out of warranty
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so people can't upgrade just because their vehicle is paid off, is reliable and fuel efficient?

with all the incentives right now, entry is not as bad as you think

but no i wouldn't buy it solely for gas savings
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Model 3 launched in Hong Kong this week...but I can't order it, it only has standard plus (RWD), and I want AWD non-P. I am pissed cause I've waited 3 years hoping to be the first one getting it.
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Another one burned to a crisp while charging. Combined with the randomly exploding ones, I don't think I'd want one of these parked anywhere near me. Certainly not in my garage.

https://electrek.co/2019/06/01/tesla...PzM6C6p0AbXWk8
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Model 3 launched in Hong Kong this week...but I can't order it, it only has standard plus (RWD), and I want AWD non-P. I am pissed cause I've waited 3 years hoping to be the first one getting it.
Why do you need AWD in HK?
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Another one burned to a crisp while charging. Combined with the randomly exploding ones, I don't think I'd want one of these parked anywhere near me. Certainly not in my garage.

https://electrek.co/2019/06/01/tesla...PzM6C6p0AbXWk8
19 more cars to add to your list.

https://www.hotcars.com/20-cars-with...ching-on-fire/
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A Tesla is #1 on that list as well, and 2 others are electric cars. The rest of the list is mostly high-end exotic stuff and very old cars (a Vega? really?).

I would be interested to see an actual breakdown of numbers of cars combusting while refueling, as that now happens at home for many electric cars that risk is now transferred home instead of being at a gas station.
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Just like with any other vehicle, an electric vehicle has a chance of catching on fire. No car is perfect but to write them all off because some have caught on fire is just stupid. EV fires are going to be put under the spotlight right now as they are a relatively new technology and people are hyper sensitive to any negative news about them.

If you want to avoid driving in a vehicle that has a chance of catching on fire you should sell your car and just ride a bike. Every year there are over 170,000 vehicle fires in the united states and I guarantee that 99%+ of those are ICE vehicles.

Take things with a grain of salt with any piece of news these days and ask some questions. How old was the car that caught on fire? Was there an issue with the charger that caused the fire? Was there any existing damage to the car that may have caused the fire while charging?

Regardless of what the cause was, it's still something to be concerned about and it appears as if Tesla has sent out an update to help address some of the potential causes. That being said, i'd be interested in seeing a breakdown by model as to which cars have been catching on fire. It sure does look like the model S seems to be the most prominent one but that also probably has something to do with how many are on the road.
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Why do you need AWD in HK?
well, to enjoy the most out of the tax benefit, it is the AWD version that benefits the most and it is quicker
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EV fires are going to be put under the spotlight right now as they are a relatively new technology and people are hyper sensitive to any negative news about them.
They also seem to be a lot harder to deal with than a gas fire because of the batteries. It may just be a fluke but all the spontaneous ones I'm seeing in the news are Teslas, the fires involving other models that I've heard about are the result of accidents. Hybrids seem to have done fine over the years as well.

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Every year there are over 170,000 vehicle fires in the united states and I guarantee that 99%+ of those are ICE vehicles.
How old are those vehicles, and when are the fires happening? ICE vehicles tend to catch fire when they're older and being driven, not nearly new and parked. If a fire starts while driving you're already paying attention to the car and can react more quickly to get away from it, if it happens in your garage in the middle of the night

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To be fair, there are 260k model Ss, and over 1.4 billion ICEs on the road. That's what, 21,538 ICEs that would have needed to start on fire in the past 2 months. Also to be fair, these are car fires occurring when the car is turned off and/or fueling. So we would need 21,538 ICEs catching on fire while turned off / fueling to be equivalent.. Just sayin', it's a pretty silly thing to throw in there as if "Well, because ICEs start on fire, these fires are ok.".
Maybe I'm just being overly cautious because in most of the detached homes around here, the non-master bedrooms are typically above the garage (ie the kids rooms) so I'm not too jazzed about the idea of placing something potentially explosive directly beneath my kids bed.

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Take things with a grain of salt with any piece of news these days and ask some questions. How old was the car that caught on fire? Was there an issue with the charger that caused the fire? Was there any existing damage to the car that may have caused the fire while charging?
Given the amount of tech in these things, should it not be set up to detect those kinds of issues and stop charging? Perhaps I shouldn't have assumed they had charging safety sorted out when they started spending a bunch of time with flashy stuff like the doors flapping to music.
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That looks better than any of the renderings for their actual truck. Given the size isn't it more of a ute though?
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That looks better than any of the renderings for their actual truck. Given the size isn't it more of a ute though?
She (Simone Giertz aka Queen of Shitty Robots) did say it was El Camino inspired. It's even RWD!
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Looks great as an ICE truck... but I doubt there would be so many air vent opening for a Tesla EV truck.

EV is all about low air drag, so the more opening, the more drag it creates.

If the teaser is any indication, and following Tesla's design language, I'd say it's going to look like an enlarged Roaster with Elongated front to create more space for batteries and low drag.

Heck, I'd go as far as saying it's going to have some weird suicide doors/single piece with crash protection built into the door to create a safe and yet functional (say creating a side loading mechanism) door design (as I see it the main reason why no teaser ever show the door).
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let's se e how well it does in a rollover when you take away the c pillar

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In-laws just took delivery of their SR+ Model 3.

For less than half of the price (incentive included), I'm surprised how well it compared to the Model X I've previously driven.

I mean, sure the X is fancier and better in almost any and every way, but for double the price, it better be.

So tempted to switch my DD...
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In-laws just took delivery of their SR+ Model 3.

For less than half of the price (incentive included), I'm surprised how well it compared to the Model X I've previously driven.

I mean, sure the X is fancier and better in almost any and every way, but for double the price, it better be.

So tempted to switch my DD...
Do it, it's an amazing car. i've got the LR RWD and it's a blast to drive every day.
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Has anyone been in an accident with their Tesla? I'm curious to see if the parts shortage is a real thing or not.
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Has anyone been in an accident with their Tesla? I'm curious to see if the parts shortage is a real thing or not.
An anecdotal note for sure, but I was talking to a gent when in-law was taking delivery who was there picking up his 3rd Tesla, and we were talking about problems of owning a Tesla. He told me parts aren't exactly an issue unless you are looking for something which just happened to be in low supply/high demand.

The problem here in YVR is the limit amount of shops qualified to work on Teslas. He believes there are only a whopping 3 shops in BC that can service them. And they aren't dedicated to Tesla either.

Thus, it's often that they have to wait for the bodyshop to have a space, and then order whatever it's necessary to fix it. And sometimes the wait time for shop space/time is way longer than the part.

Nevertheless, he believes the worst is behind us already because given the BC/Fed incentives, we are becoming a very strong market for Teslas... which he think will add additional resources not just from Tesla itself, but also 3rd parties interests with Tesla.
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Has anyone been in an accident with their Tesla? I'm curious to see if the parts shortage is a real thing or not.
My work place had a couple tesla come through. Not accident cars but needed trims, undertray, glass, door handle, mostly cosmetic stuff to prep the cars for resale. Parts take forever to arrive. It feels like the parts staff at the Tesla dealer don't really know what they are doing.
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Friend has a Model S and has been in a couple of minor parking lot fender benders (richmond...). Parts take months to come in and any type of damage to one of the sensors will take the entire system offline. When parts do come in you also have to hope and pray that the technician calibrates the sensor system properly...
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