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Spoon 07-21-2017 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8852722)
someone must have tipped them off..or an obvious trail left behind

even if they had an idea where to look in the park, no way they'd have enough manpower to canvass at midnight and have near-immediate results.

With technology nowadays, police probably tracked her down if she enabled locations services.

m3thods 07-21-2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by impulseX (Post 8852733)
from the link kt posted. seems like they may be onto something?

RCMP are always a number of steps ahead of what they let the media know (obviously).

Also, regardless of the movies we've all watched people are never as smart as a plain movie villain (duh). Whenever I think about "man how did they find the guy half a province away" after a crime it's really just stupid things. Electronic payment trails, social media (!!!!!!), cameras. The social media thing really gets me. For someone trying to lay low, it's amazing how dumb these criminals can be on FB and twitter.

twitchyzero 07-21-2017 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 8852746)
With technology nowadays, police probably tracked her down if she enabled locations services.

they can do that? what's all the fuss about Apple not letting investigators into the San Bernardino shooter's phone?

in another case (also in the US) when someone drowned last year, fitbit details were provided in an attempt to find the GPS coordinates.

m3thods 07-21-2017 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8852757)
they can do that? what's all the fuss about Apple not letting investigators into the San Bernardino shooter's phone?

in another case (also in the US) when someone drowned last year, fitbit details were provided in an attempt to find the GPS coordinates.

I think that was something different. A parent could use Location Services to track their kids with some apps. Accessing someone's phone is usually a no-go without a warrant if you're needing to look into the actual phone. Location services sends data out of the phone so you don't need the phone to see the data.

Shorn 07-21-2017 07:39 AM

the police can ping your cellphone signal if it's on, much like when you call 911 we get an approximate location through triangulation of cell towers, along with an uncertainty level in meters showing how far you could be from that location. sometimes the uncertainty can be 10 meters which is great but sometimes it can be like 10,000

not saying that's how they found her, just saying that it is possible

twitchyzero 07-21-2017 07:45 AM

consumer-grade GPS is usually worthless in the woods

mikemhg 07-21-2017 10:55 AM

They used K9, I have no doubt about it. That's the most likely scenario how they found her so quickly. A fresh body in Central Park is not difficult to locate if they know the general location with a K9 unit.

Ch28 07-21-2017 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8852765)
consumer-grade GPS is usually worthless in the woods

Cell phone GPS works fine in Central Park. Did a run along the trail a few weekends ago and it tracked everything perfectly fine on my GPS tracking app (Strava)

Gh0st 07-21-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by - kT (Post 8852706)
Death of Marrisa Shen, 13, now considered a homicide, say RCMP - British Columbia - CBC News

this story makes my skin crawl just as much as the elisa lam one.. there's a lot of conflicting information about the video too, whether she was entering or leaving, and whether it was her residence

and how did police find her only 2 hours after she was reported missing, in a densely wooded park at night?

hope they catch whoever did this soon, feel like this has really hit close to home for a lot of people.. RIP to the poor girl :(


that elisa lam story was scary as fuck. still is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=RH-0Q-Mie5w




so saddened by this story :( Rip poor little girl.

underscore 07-21-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8852765)
consumer-grade GPS is usually worthless in the woods

A flat park in the middle of a city is hardly "the woods"

twitchyzero 07-21-2017 02:50 PM

Whether or not it's bordered by busy streets and high-density residential areas is irrelevant.

if you try using a GLONASS + GPS running watch or a drone, more likely than not you'll struggle to get a signal.

I'm not talking about the trails, once you go off the path and under the canopy.

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8852824)
Cell phone GPS works fine in Central Park. Did a run along the trail a few weekends ago and it tracked everything perfectly fine on my GPS tracking app (Strava)

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8852830)
A flat park in the middle of a city is hardly "the woods"


whitev70r 07-21-2017 03:05 PM

A 13 yr old tragically died suddenly, cops are treating it as a homicide and a few of you are debating on the effectiveness of GPS in trails vs. the city??!! C'mon give your head a shake guys.

- kT 07-21-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gh0st (Post 8852827)
that elisa lam story was scary as fuck. still is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=RH-0Q-Mie5w




so saddened by this story :( Rip poor little girl.

yeah seriously.. I will never buy that she somehow managed to get onto the locked roof by herself, climb up the water tank in the early hours of the morning, lift a huge lid, and drown, mental health or otherwise. I watched the video once, and I've never really dared watch it again, gives me the creeps through and through. the short video of Marissa gave me the same feeling too

Hakkaboy 07-21-2017 04:24 PM

Am I the only one wondering why the only picture they posted of her is of her wearing a japanese schoolgirl outfit?

yray 07-21-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8852824)
Cell phone GPS works fine in Central Park. Did a run along the trail a few weekends ago and it tracked everything perfectly fine on my GPS tracking app (Strava)

Yea, cops first thing would be check icloud "find my iphone"

twitchyzero 07-21-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8852846)
A 13 yr old tragically died suddenly, cops are treating it as a homicide and a few of you are debating on the effectiveness of GPS in trails vs. the city??!! C'mon give your head a shake guys.

natural progression of the discussion on how she's found within a few hours

there's no other developing facts to go on right now

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Originally Posted by Hakkaboy (Post 8852856)
Am I the only one wondering why the only picture they posted of her is of her wearing a japanese schoolgirl outfit?

media probably just pulled her facebook profile pic or something

CharlesInCharge 07-21-2017 08:05 PM

A man in Iran was hung a few weeks ago after he raped and killed a 9 year old girl. In the video (which i wont post) you hear hundreds of people cheering his death and witness what happens to pedophiles.


hchang 07-21-2017 11:16 PM

Interesting how they knew to check the park

underscore 07-22-2017 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8852844)
Whether or not it's bordered by busy streets and high-density residential areas is irrelevant.

Not really, since areas like that are going to be fairly flat. Go for a hike in a steep valley and then talk about not being able to get a GPS signal. Something like a running watch or drone is going to need a more precise fix, getting a rough spot to start a sniffer dog isn't likely to be a problem.

JSALES 07-22-2017 01:25 AM

RIP. First time seeing something like this happen close in my neighbourhood

westopher 07-22-2017 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8852846)
A 13 yr old tragically died suddenly, cops are treating it as a homicide and a few of you are debating on the effectiveness of GPS in trails vs. the city??!! C'mon give your head a shake guys.

Its just a discussion. Posting "wow RIP" is no more beneficial to the victims, and the conversation is not being done with any disrespect.
When something tragic happens, its human nature to wonder why, and how.

It is startling how fast this story did unravel from start to finish.

bcrdukes 07-22-2017 09:11 AM

wow RIP

Manic! 07-22-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesInCharge (Post 8852881)
A man in Iran was hung a few weeks ago after he raped and killed a 9 year old girl. In the video (which i wont post) you hear hundreds of people cheering his death and witness what happens to pedophiles.


And if that girl was left living she would have been killed too for having sex outside marriage.

Also Thats NSFW.

ImportPsycho 07-22-2017 04:30 PM

Gosh.... lack of information is killing me! I'm check news everyday but nothing!
As a father of little girl, I hope they find who is responsible for this:swear:

dark0821 07-22-2017 05:34 PM

Yea, lived right across from Kingsway Sushi... so you can say this hits super super close to home... RIP

Scary though.... being a father of 2... these things just scares the shit out of me, cant imagine what the family and friends are going thru...


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