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Surely if Canadians aren’t liking what’s happening in the states we can take them all here?
But only once Carney tells the libs it’s ok?
Why is there this massive sense of entitlement coming from woke progressives that illegal immigrants should always be allowed to stay and enforcing border rules is somehow fascist?
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Why is there this massive sense of entitlement coming from woke progressives that illegal immigrants should always be allowed to stay and enforcing border rules is somehow fascist?
For the most part, I am a pragmatic person at this point in my life. So I prefer to look at things in a pragmatic manner.
A lot of these illegal migrants have been living (and working) in the US for quite some time already -- we're talking up to 10+ yrs of living in the US. They work jobs that a lot of legal Americans have little interest in, at wages that are almost always below the legal market wage. When they have already been made into part of the daily functioning society, why is Trump still so hell bent in kicking them out?
Illegal immigration is not a criminal offence -- it's a civil violation. Instead of spending all that effort and resources into rounding them up and kicking them out, it is a far better use of gov resources to arrest real criminals.
Enforcing border rules at the border is not facist. Separating children from their parents is.
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No, Italian citizens generally do not need a visa to visit the U.S. for tourism or business. They can enter the U.S. under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) and are required to obtain an ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) instead.
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Visa Waiver Program (VWP):
The VWP allows citizens of certain countries, including Italy, to travel to the U.S. for tourism or business for stays of up to 90 days without a visa.
He arrived in the US April 30th. It has not been 90 days. He is an Italian citizen.
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The time period of the stay is a pretty weak argument, it doesn’t matter if they stayed 20 years+, that doesn’t magically make it legal. People that immigrated with legit paperwork wait years. Why should they even bother doing all that when they can enter illegally and start working for wages far better than their home countries.
For the most part, I am a pragmatic person at this point in my life. So I prefer to look at things in a pragmatic manner.
A lot of these illegal migrants have been living (and working) in the US for quite some time already -- we're talking up to 10+ yrs of living in the US. They work jobs that a lot of legal Americans have little interest in, at wages that are almost always below the legal market wage. When they have already been made into part of the daily functioning society, why is Trump still so hell bent in kicking them out?
Illegal immigration is not a criminal offence -- it's a civil violation. Instead of spending all that effort and resources into rounding them up and kicking them out, it is a far better use of gov resources to arrest real criminals.
Enforcing border rules at the border is not facist. Separating children from their parents is.
Simple answer. We all know that Trump is a racist grandpa. Racism is in the Trump DNA. He's been showing racial bias towards people since the 1970s.
Trump has discriminated against visible minorities in his business dealings for a long time. His business policies from as far as the 1970s. steered black people away from his apartments because he doesn't want black people as tenants.
In my opinion, Trump treats the U.S. as his own personal home. His Kingdom.
He wants foreigners out of his kingdom because A) He hates visible minorities and B) Deporting visible minorities who are not American citizens out of the U.S. garners more support from the MAGAs.
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Most of those interviewed said they were not aware of any discrimination. However, some of the records recount the stories of black rental applicants who said they were told no apartments were available, while whites sent to check on the same apartments were offered leases.
The records, posted on the FBI's Freedom of Information Act website, include a 1974 interview with a former doorman at a Trump building in Brooklyn.
A supervisor "told me that if a black person came to 2650 Ocean Parkway and inquired about an apartment for rent, and he, that is [redacted] was not there at the time, that I should tell him that the rent was twice as much as it really was, in order that he could not afford the apartment," the ex-doorman said.
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Pretty sure it’s a criminal offense in the USA.
The time period of the stay is a pretty weak argument, it doesn’t matter if they stayed 20 years+, that doesn’t magically make it legal. People that immigrated with legit paperwork wait years. Why should they even bother doing all that when they can enter illegally and start working for wages far better than their home countries.
It's not a criminal offense. It's a misdemeanour.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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I'm referring to the legions of Canadian Liberal influencers and establishment boomers who are blasting the USA for trying to deport illegals with the response being incredible violence hurled at the police, looting, and riots... meanwhile they were calling for crackdowns on the convoy which had absolutely zero violence at all, and continue to hurl insults and abuse at convoy people and people who refused the clot shot.
Woke progressives are so ideologically blind to reality, they stick to their dogma with such fanaticism. "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
Can you please show me an example of where people who were not breaking the law (the legally nationalized citizens of the US for example) were arrested at the trucker convoy and put into detention centres without due process?
Can you show me an example of where the national guard or military came in at the trucker convoy?
Can you show me illegal uses of force at the trucker convoy?
Can you show me plain clothes ICE enforcement without showing credentials there?
Can you show me police shooting the media with rubber bullets?
Pick any one of those.
It's not the same dude. It's not complicated.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Enforcing border rules at the border is not facist. Separating children from their parents is.
Bruh if I moved to New Orleans illegally and knocked up a couple of local women and then was kicked out of the country 10 years later and told my story on here, you guys wouldn't be sitting here going "Wow they separated a father from his children!" you'd be all saying "You got what you deserved for going to the USA illegally you moron" and don't even try and think for a second you turbo woke progressives wouldn't be saying this, because it's true.
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Bruh if I moved to New Orleans illegally and knocked up a couple of local women and then was kicked out of the country 10 years later and told my story on here, you guys wouldn't be sitting here going "Wow they separated a father from his children!" you'd be all saying "You got what you deserved for going to the USA illegally you moron" and don't even try and think for a second you turbo woke progressives wouldn't be saying this, because it's true.
If you were a white guy leaving a war torn country with your wife and kids to try and keep them safe or escape poverty I'd defend you to the end regardless of your skin colour.
If you left a completely safe country to sneak into America then yeah I probably don't feel sorry for you regardless of if you're Jason, Jamal, or gurpreet.
It has to do with circumstances that got someone there beyond just feeling like checking it out.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Dude was given EVERY SINGLE possible opportunity to succeed in life, opportunities galore to make money despite no higher education, do whatever he wants, was even literally given 2 fucking houses... and he still somehow managed to squander every single bit of it and now blames the government for why life sucks.
Doesn't even know the meaning of adversity, picking on people born into individuals literally born into death and squalor.
The time period of the stay is a pretty weak argument, it doesn’t matter if they stayed 20 years+, that doesn’t magically make it legal. People that immigrated with legit paperwork wait years. Why should they even bother doing all that when they can enter illegally and start working for wages far better than their home countries.
So are you saying the people being rounded up under Trump's Gestapo team are being charged with a crime, and therefore should be afforded due process?
Dude was given EVERY SINGLE possible opportunity to succeed in life, opportunities galore to make money despite no higher education, do whatever he wants, was even literally given 2 fucking houses... and he still somehow managed to squander every single bit of it and now blames the government for why life sucks.
Doesn't even know the meaning of adversity, picking on people born into individuals literally born into death and squalor.
Buddy guy, while you're busy tabulating my "wasted chances", I'm in the middle of negotiating my contract rate for ad bundles I generate using an app I vibe-coded with Cursor. Feeling pretty stoked, actually!
Why you so busy kicking dust on my parade, champ?
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If you were a white guy leaving a war torn country with your wife and kids to try and keep them safe or escape poverty I'd defend you to the end regardless of your skin colour.
Why not just the wife and kids and the guy stays to, oh I don't know, fight for a better homeland?
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Why not just the wife and kids and the guy stays to, oh I don't know, fight for a better homeland?
What are you gonna do, overthrow the fucking government?
What did you do to fight the Canadian government when you had to take a medicine? Post angry shit on Reddit and blame trans people in sports? Neither you or I are going to overthrow a Venezuelan government so why the fuck wouldn't I get out of there with my family to give them a better life somewhere else?
I'm not giving one ounce of my kids safety up for "making my country better," especially if it has a history of violence and famine.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Why didn't your ancestors stay behind in England/Ireland to fight for a better country? It wasn't even that bad, just a little famine, debtor prisons. Just overthrow the Monarchy bro...
Why didn't your ancestors stay behind in England/Ireland to fight for a better country? It wasn't even that bad, just a little famine, debtor prisons. Just overthrow the Monarchy bro...
My baby momma's family moved from France to Quebec in the 1700's and her oldest known relatives were registered as "fancy hat merchants" in Montreal.
On my father's side, my grandfather was a WW2 and Korean war vet who married a war wife from an devastated upper-class family in Germany immediately following WW2. His family were poor Irish that came over during the potato famine, my great uncle was high up in the Catholic church, apparently. My mother's side of the family came from Wotton-Under-Edge in the U.K. from a line of tailors, and apparently some had been accused of witchcraft, which was not uncommon for the Cotswolds. My great grandfather on the British side was the only good Christian left in the family other than the pagans we left over the Atlantic, he had moved to Canada after world war 1, but it's unclear how my grandmother on my mother's side ended up in possession of the house at 308 West 22nd. (Torn down in the 90's), it had the British Tudor style to it, was a nice house!
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My baby momma's family moved from France to Quebec in the 1700's and her oldest known relatives were registered as "fancy hat merchants" in Montreal.
On my father's side, my grandfather was a WW2 and Korean war vet who married a war wife from an devastated upper-class family in Germany immediately following WW2. His family were poor Irish that came over during the potato famine, my great uncle was high up in the Catholic church, apparently. My mother's side of the family came from Wotton-Under-Edge in the U.K. from a line of tailors, and apparently some had been accused of witchcraft, which was not uncommon for the Cotswolds. My great grandfather on the British side was the only good Christian left in the family other than the pagans we left over the Atlantic, he had moved to Canada after world war 1, but it's unclear how my grandmother on my mother's side ended up in possession of the house at 308 West 22nd. (Torn down in the 90's), it had the British Tudor style to it, was a nice house!
I had no idea what your ancestry was I just took a guess and looks like I hit the bullseye. One thing I like about you gweilos is your obsession with keeping up with your ancestry. I can't name anyone or even fathom to guess what my Great-great-grand-whatever was doing. It's all lost to history.
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