Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8936426)

how much passing as-is translating to real change, i ave my doubts

you often do you hear the officers say 'how would i know, i'm not the expert, that's why we're sending you to the shop'

Originally Posted by yourself (Post 8936430)

The real crime here is that a woman most likely has had to look at Cain’s micro peen after sitting in a sweaty grey F150 all day.

Originally Posted by yourself (Post 8935856)

Just a reminder, a car with a Demonstration plate cannot receive a VI Notice.

Originally Posted by joonzn6 (Post 8936410)

CAR PASSED. I REPEAT, CAR PASSED INSPECTION AS-IS.

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8936426)

how much passing as-is translating to real change, i ave my doubts

you often do you hear the officers say 'how would i know, i'm not the expert, that's why we're sending you to the shop'

they'll be off the hook for VI'ing a stock-ish car, i can almost guarantee it

Originally Posted by RevYouUp (Post 8936436)

This Cain guy is obviously an expert, since hes training other VPD officers on the matter.

This case already proves how unqualified Cain is to issue legitimate VIs.

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8936440)

Just playing Devil's advocate here but Cain isn't wrong.
Joon's car did have an aftermarket exhaust and makes it a legitimate reason to pull him over.

The roadside test was over the limit hence the box 2.

That's all he has to say to his boss to justify what he did.

Originally Posted by BrokenEuro (Post 8936445)

Unfortunately I am going to have to agree with this: Cain can simply state it was "loud by ear" (which as stated by the test result, was "just under the dB limit") and he wanted to issue a VI to get it confirmed by a test facility.

Originally Posted by BrokenEuro (Post 8936445)

Unfortunately I am going to have to agree with this: Cain can simply state it was "loud by ear" (which as stated by the test result, was "just under the dB limit") and he wanted to issue a VI to get it confirmed by a test facility.

You could argue that law enforcement resources could be better used elsewhere, but the argument likely won't be strong enough to pose more than a slap on the wrist for Cain.

Originally Posted by tokyoteleport (Post 8936444)

lol according to their own procedures manual,giving someone a box 2 for a exhaust modification is a deficiency that is severe enough for a complete inspection????

Loud exhaust should be a minor defect that does not effect safe operation of the vehicle.

Unless what I understand is that worn tires are not as important as an aftermarket exhaust.......? As that only justifies a Box 3?

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8936440)

Just playing Devil's advocate here but Cain isn't wrong.
Joon's car did have an aftermarket exhaust and makes it a legitimate reason to pull him over.

The roadside test was over the limit hence the box 2.

That's all he has to say to his boss to justify what he did.

Originally Posted by white rocket (Post 8936432)

Any source info for this? Not doubting it but more questioning why a D-Plated/non-insured but dealer registered vehicle would all of a sudden become exempt from a VI even if it does not comply with the laws. Those that know me know how I roll and I'd be down to test this theory with valid info from ICBC/CVSE/etc.



Outstanding!!!

I can only hope this evidence leads us in the proper direction with someone, anyone, at the VPD. I believe we will need more of these in order to actually make waves though but this is an excellent start. It is an unbelievably steep uphill battle for modded car enthusiasts and without the assistance from the general public we are a small group. With Cain and Co. being extremely vigilant with their claims we all know it will be an epic fight to get anything on him legitimately. I heard of him and his cronies recently visiting a known shop in Burnaby with what was described as a "We have our eye on you" thuggish-type threat implying that vehicles were being passed when they shouldn't have. Sheesh, what a crime fighter.

I still fail to see how him and his teams actions are actually helping improve the safety of the general public with their tactics. Like many have said, distracted driving and other similar infractions FAR out-weigh the chances of a modded car creating an injury due to an accident specifically due to the illegal mods failing and causing such an occurrence. I'd wager to say that most incidents that involve a modded vehicle would be the fault of the driver and not the potential illegal modifications it has.

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8936450)

It says bald tires on a dry day. I would assume if the car was pulled over on a rainy day it may be a box 2 or even a box 1 if the cords were showing.

I agree though, a loud exhaust is worthy of a box 2?

Originally Posted by joonzn6 (Post 8936410)

CAR PASSED. I REPEAT, CAR PASSED INSPECTION AS-IS.

We did it boys, thank you all for the help. Will post proof later today. Expected costs for the inspection is ~$202. (holy fuck) PM me for email for donations if you would like to donate for the inspection. I'll stop accepting donations after I have the proper amount and I'd like to also give $20 for my own inspection too.

**Actually fuck it I passed first try, I'll pay my own fee, it only makes sense. Thanks all.**

Originally Posted by smaggs (Post 8936457)

True. From what i understand, if the officer even has suspicion that it might be violating the MVA then that's enough to issue a VI...just because this one vehicle passed as is, it doesn't give us a break-through in our argument.
HOWEVER, if a trend starts where more and more cars start passing as-is, THEN we have an argument that officers need to be better educated on when to issue a VI. I think people that feel they're within the MVA should continue to have their cars inspected as-is, rather than returning back to OEM parts which is what is being requested and is not a requirement under the MVA (to best of my knowledge)..

Originally Posted by joonzn6 (Post 8936475)

PROOF I PASSED. TEST WAS CONDUCTED AS FOLLOWS:

1 METRE AWAY FROM TIP OF EXHAUST AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE.
IDLE, 2000 RPM, 3500 RPM AND 4500 RPM ARE TESTED.

THEY ONLY STATED THAT THE EXHAUST CURRENTLY ON THE CAR IS THE ONE ON PAPER BUT HAVE SAID THAT THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEM SHOWING THIS PAPER TO THE POLICE AS PROOF.

IMGUR LINK:

https://imgur.com/a/CGSKaU4

(also it was $250, I literally just got robbed by a gangster in a police uniform.)