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Probably don't include your inspectors name as he's innocent. You never know what the VPD will do to him for passing you. I'm just afraid of the potential can of worms you are opening up by posting the information for potential scrutiny by prying eyes. Maybe not on a public forum. |
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so one car passed safe to assume 98% of the violations in the blitz are still valid if you have a car sound/look as stock as joozn6 with VI, post it up aside from that, only real complaint to be made is against their professionalism, so let's starting seeing those dash cam vids of them acting unprofessional/misconduct |
I think vpd should be tagged on Twitter and fb with the passing inspection pics #cain #Christensen #antiboxoneclub |
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I'm curious what would happen if I got a VI on a temporary permit. I have a MR2T that I've driven maybe less than 10 times in the past 8 years. If I get a VI in it, can I just keep getting day permits here and there? Or should I just say fuck it and stash it in the garage for the next 20 years? |
Joonzn6, First of all, congrats on passing as is. Obviously this provides a strong case for yourself as well as the community to move forward. With the VI out of the way, I hope you would proceed with some subsequent steps to push back against the VI spree. Two of the most obvious routes that I can see are: 1) file for an official complaint 2) file for a small claims suit to recoup your losses IMO, #2 would create a bigger impact, with the major benefit being that it can strengthen your case for #1 as well as your credibility in pushing ahead with #1. But filing for small claims is almost certainly a PITA, even when the system has now been revised to go through the Civil Resolution Tribunal (CRT) for claims that are under $5k. It'll also cost you a bit of money ($75 for claim amounts under $3k, more if the amount you seek is between $3k - 5k). You can sue for recouping the inspection fee ($250), the money from your time loss / wage loss as a result of needing to attend to the VI, the small claims filing fee, and perhaps something else I have not thought of. (If for some reason, you find enough things to sue for that amounts to over $5k, you'd really have to take that to small claims court instead of just the CRT. And then it get more complicated and troublesome, and I kind of would not recommend you to do that.) If you decide to proceed with filing a small claims suit, I think it would be important to establish proof that the inspected vehicle was in the identical condition as the time when the officer VI-ed you. The most effective way to establish this is to obtain a written statement of some sort from the Toyota tech / inspector. It probably wouldn't need too much -- just the brand/model of the exhaust that was on the car during inspection would be enough since that is the only item cited on your VI. If you have plans to proceed with filing a complaint with the VPD PSS and/or OPCC, I think a good approach would be to focus on the officer's lack of training, lack of knowledge, and lack of experience in regards to the MVA since he has obviously failed to deliver on all 3 aspects when your car passed the VI as is. If you can establish the officer is unqualified to fulfill at least this aspect of his policing duties, I think that would be a win. Good luck! Quote:
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I'm backing you up all the way on this! As everyone has already said, I urge everyone and ANYONE who got VI'd and inspected EXACTLY the way the vehicle was VI'd for and with a pass (of course) to come forward and unite to take this incompetent cop down. We have a strong case here and we need ALL the help we can get to make some noise. |
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90+% of drivers drive 1 km/h or more over the speed limit. Guilty! Are these drivers being harassed? I think the point is not that laws are being broken, but citizens are being harassed for... what exactly? |
Yah I totally don't get the naysayers in this thread or the ones that side with the police... why are you even on a modified car forum if you have no interest in preserving your right to express yourself with your car (within reason)? Maybe you should stick to the VLS side of this site if that's the case. |
dam $250 for inspection i think private shops usually charge around $100.. isn't it a bit of a problem if police can force you to take your car to a place with a higher cost? |
It’s usually $140-170 at an indy |
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almost none like i said, you can file for possible misconduct/harrassment if you feel the officers didin't go about it in the right way, but not for the validity of violation |
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You all are cheering for 1 car that passed out of how many notices this guy has given, hoping that the 1 car that was legit is going to help everyone else who isn't legit out? Truth of the matter is he is giving these notices with just cause based on the MVA. We all mod our cars knowing that we are violating it, but fuck it "Car is Life" He's using a tool that we were lucky enough to have avoided for a long time. I've only ever been issued 1 VI and it was a Box 1 in my EF that would scrape over man hole covers. I played the game and I lost my car. There was no way it was ever going to pass inspection with any reasonable amount of work so we just went and stripped it in the tow yard and left it there. Point is, we have escaped this kind of scrutiny for a long time, and while Cain might be the guy enforcing the VI rules, he's not really "wrong" so far is he? GOING BY THE MVA only 1 car so far (maybe two if you count the Abarth) has been wrongfully given a notice. It fucking sucks that we have this guy on a rampage and Joonz should absolutely seek compensation for the VI but everyone else that got the VI and failed, what can you really say? Berz out. |
But does it actually say according to the MVA that lowering isn't allowed at all? What about slight camber that's still within oem specs? Or exhausts that aren't obnoxious ebay fart cans? Only 1 of us so far has been confident enough to send their car in for inspection as is. But maybe this might inspire those who feel they are in the right to go for it in the future so we can build a case. Maybe some people really do deserve it because they smoked their tail lights or something, but that's on them. But not everyone in here is driving around cars that scrape over man hole covers. These kind of people are the ones ruining it for the rest of us. |
A person passing a VI without changing anything is a completely legitimate outcome as far as the current system is concerned, nobody in charge of anything is going to be surprised if they hear that. Having that happen doesn't make a "strong case" for jack shit, unless *maybe* you're able to start doing that with large numbers of vehicles, but that hasn't been the case thus far. From the sounds of it complaints may be valid regarding professionalism, but not about the actual VIs. Quote:
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^^^. Well then fuck it right? Let’s all give up. |
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Berz out. |
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Sure continue this blitz for all they want, but at least introduce a system where the citizens affected can be reimbursed after a passed VI (wrongfully citied) or have a dispute process. It's only fair? |
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