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Like the China of antiquity, all we care about is just getting rich and fat. Zero interest in external issues (other than Taiwan) and only want to close our borders to foreigners while taking in as much gold & silver as possible. We are the most historically isolationist nation on earth. We built a giant wall for fuck sakes.
Going back to this air canada thing, here's my take.
Airline industry from the beginning always paid based on block time. Is it time to change/update that? I kinda think so. As soon as you arrive at the airport and clock in, you should be paid. Sounds reasonable to me to update and modernize the whole system of how FAs are paid.
But when it comes to "poverty wages" for junior FAs, sure I agree those rates should be increased for inflation. But what the union doesn't tell you is you start as a junior and work your way up the ranks, then life is pretty sweet.
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A flight attendants schedule is usually between 75-90 hours a month with 10 guaranteed days off. You also have grey days, but you do not have to pick up the phone if you don't want to fly. You will have to pick up on reserve days. I fly twice a week, at $60 an hour (I do have some seniority). I can easily get another job. I can pick up flights or drop flights. It is incredibly flexible. If I want to go overseas I make per diem. If I am away for 3-4 days I make an extra $4.50 per hour/24 hours a day until I arrive back home. I get great flight benefits and when on layovers I stay in 5 Star hotels. A lot of flight attendants make more than a first officer. It has always been like this, you get paid for flight time only and maybe it is time for a change. What I don't like is this portrayal of a poverty wage. You do not have to be available 24/7. Many flight attendants have other careers, I know nurses and actors and chiropractors that fly...
My buddy's wife is a senior Air Canada FA. She runs her own retail business but also then flies 2 shifts a month overseas, makes $60+ an hour, gets per diem, and then travels the world with her family in business class thanks to employee fares.
If the union wants juniors to be paid more, why not consider more equality from juniors to senior? OH wait, that's not how unions roll. The seniors "paid their dues" and got their nut so the younger ones have to do the same right?
-EDIT forgot to mention, government should stop legislating people back to work. the right to strike is guaranteed in the charter. what's the point of the charter if the gov't can make rules that allow them to ignore it?? I like the fact the union is defying the order. it stands for something bigger IMO.
Trade the intense regulation and surveillance for a lack of crack heads, seems aight
Have you been to singapore? Seems like the utopia you envision. No gays, chewing gum, littering, automatic death penalty for druggies etc .Just beware that you would already been caned for your profile pic (can't criticize the government) and a prius costs $170K USD.
If the union wants juniors to be paid more, why not consider more equality from juniors to senior? OH wait, that's not how unions roll. The seniors "paid their dues" and got their nut so the younger ones have to do the same right?
Have you been to singapore? Seems like the utopia you envision. No gays, chewing gum, littering, automatic death penalty for druggies etc .Just beware that you would already been caned for your profile pic (can't criticize the government) and a prius costs $170K USD.
Refuses to set foot outside of the Western world, but continues to criticize it like it's the worst place in the world to be.
PS pretty sure there are openly gay people in SG. It's not Iran.
Going back to this air canada thing, here's my take.
Airline industry from the beginning always paid based on block time. Is it time to change/update that? I kinda think so. As soon as you arrive at the airport and clock in, you should be paid. Sounds reasonable to me to update and modernize the whole system of how FAs are paid.
But when it comes to "poverty wages" for junior FAs, sure I agree those rates should be increased for inflation. But what the union doesn't tell you is you start as a junior and work your way up the ranks, then life is pretty sweet.
My buddy's wife is a senior Air Canada FA. She runs her own retail business but also then flies 2 shifts a month overseas, makes $60+ an hour, gets per diem, and then travels the world with her family in business class thanks to employee fares.
If the union wants juniors to be paid more, why not consider more equality from juniors to senior? OH wait, that's not how unions roll. The seniors "paid their dues" and got their nut so the younger ones have to do the same right?
-EDIT forgot to mention, government should stop legislating people back to work. the right to strike is guaranteed in the charter. what's the point of the charter if the gov't can make rules that allow them to ignore it?? I like the fact the union is defying the order. it stands for something bigger IMO.
The irony is that they portray themselves as safety professionals but sued to get rid of the mandatory retirement age which is the most detrimental against safety which is why pilots are forced to retire at 65.
They can get up to 2k a month tax free per diems as well
Name me a job where all it takes is a high school diploma, and 6 weeks of training for that kinda work and benefits ($70-100K salary + generous per diems + pension + travel & employer paid health benefits working 8-14 days a month). Air Canada Rouge was hiring university students for the summer break at one time and they could get them qualified in 3 weeks.
Really disheartening to see the government step in on the AC FA fiasco. No matter whether you think they should be paid or not, collective bargaining is dead if corporations can expect this over and over again.
Sitting on the other side of the door, I also don’t get paid until we are moving but it’s easier
to stomach making above average wages, not dealing face to face with angry passengers when delays happen. It all evens out in the end. For a new hire FA, wages really are pitiful, and delays can extend your month drastically especially domestically when doing so many legs. It truly takes decades to get that nicer lifestyle.
Rumbles in the group chats show the chair of the CIRB (who will be making the decision whether today’s order was correct or not) worked for AC for years in the legal department with the current head honcho’s. Who doesn’t love a little conflict of interest.
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Going back to this air canada thing, here's my take.
Airline industry from the beginning always paid based on block time. Is it time to change/update that? I kinda think so. As soon as you arrive at the airport and clock in, you should be paid. Sounds reasonable to me to update and modernize the whole system of how FAs are paid.
But when it comes to "poverty wages" for junior FAs, sure I agree those rates should be increased for inflation. But what the union doesn't tell you is you start as a junior and work your way up the ranks, then life is pretty sweet.
My buddy's wife is a senior Air Canada FA. She runs her own retail business but also then flies 2 shifts a month overseas, makes $60+ an hour, gets per diem, and then travels the world with her family in business class thanks to employee fares.
If the union wants juniors to be paid more, why not consider more equality from juniors to senior? OH wait, that's not how unions roll. The seniors "paid their dues" and got their nut so the younger ones have to do the same right?
-EDIT forgot to mention, government should stop legislating people back to work. the right to strike is guaranteed in the charter. what's the point of the charter if the gov't can make rules that allow them to ignore it?? I like the fact the union is defying the order. it stands for something bigger IMO.
Thanks, it's always nice to hear from people who actually work in the field. What we see in the news is often filtered and very one-sided.
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Going back to what supafamous said, if the wages was so bad, wouldn't it increase normally if people weren't willing to be FAs? The benefits are really good for AC, if the wages are too low for them, quit and do something else?
Not picking sides but just like every other job, if the wages are too low, you do something else but most FAs stay as FA since the benefits are so good.
People be like: Hey yo Ching Chong, why don't you go back to China Ching Chong?
Hobz: Ok
People: Wait no, not like that!
I wouldn’t go back to Shanghai or HK to live. It’s too bourgeois and you gotta actually work.
Man fuck that.
if I can’t rip off Costco while on company time and do some mo liu shit, then I don’t even wanna live anymore.
Only fun thing left to do is to troll an industry full of white people who think you’re suppose to the hardest working mofo due to preconceived racist notions and then flip the narrative on them and become the laziest most overpaid piece of shit at the port. 2pm, my day is done. 5 days a week I only “work” 2.
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Bah, who cares about wages, benefits, per diems, working conditions....any stories about flight attendant orgies?
I mean putting a bunch of young dumb hot girls together and forcing them to shack up together, there's gotta be stories right? right?
You’re my best friend now you nonhoarding guangdong bastard…. Unfortunately all I can picture are these old AC cunts who are menopausal as fuck doing a very disingenuous “orgy”. Similar to how they’ve done their “careers”.
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You’re my best friend now you nonhoarding guangdong bastard…. Unfortunately all I can picture are these old AC cunts who are menopausal as fuck doing a very disingenuous “orgy”. Similar to how they’ve done their “careers”.
Hey gotta pick them out of a crowd on those picket lines, a few young nice looking ones with those high and tight ponytails and pencil skirts
Haven’t heard a single actual FA say a thing in the media, it’s only union people.
That’s a good union employee. Your advised not to speak to the media, lead them to the people who won’t say something stupid… like Mike Rousseau did today on BNN ��
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