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Old Yesterday, 07:28 PM   #13576
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It’s the same as teaching kids to snowboard/ski on the mountain. You totally can teach your own kids. You can’t bring a private instructor (or be a licensed private instructor) teaching on the mountain due to liability issue.
This was an example of poor training of the staff to enforce the rule, not the rule itself being the issue.
In the case reported by the Vancouver Sun, I am not surprised the staff initially interpreted the mom to be someone offering private lessons to the kid bcos the child obviously looks to be of a different ethnicity (brown / black) than mommy is (white). So it might appear at first glance to the on-duty life guard that it was a case of someone offering private lessons to a child, which would violate Parks Board's rule.

From the news article, it is not obvious to me whether the mom had indicated to the life guard that she is the mother of the child. IMO, it wouldn't make any sense for her to not try telling that to the life guard. Whether the life guard believed her is another thing. Suffice to say, it seems likely that the life guard had doubled down on his decision that private lessons were being given, so he had threatened to kick the mommy out.

I'd say it is some sort of a blend between poor training and poor awareness of ethnicity and family dynamics. At any rate, the incident is unfortunate and shouldn't have happened.
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Old Yesterday, 08:23 PM   #13577
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The problem is that many young people don’t have common sense and have trouble interpreting the rules.
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Old Yesterday, 08:34 PM   #13578
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To some degree I'm surprised that we backed off on the retaliatory tariffs but I think the state of play has changed as well:

- Other than Canada only China went with retaliatory tariffs and China was prepared to go all out on that fight. Culturally and politically, China was willing to hurt themselves in order to hurt the US and the US has blinked. Canada has access to resources that would really hurt the US but there's no cultural appetite to endure hardship like the China.
- Without other countries playing the retaliation game it's hard to stand up to the bully. When Mexico and the EU backed off the idea it largely meant Canada was standing alone on this.
- We've seen that the US (Trump) is not in anyway logical - they only know how to escalate and extort, they don't know how to negotiate or discuss. In that game state, escalating stakes only works if you're willing to hold your breathe more and we've seen only China has the power to bring the US to its knees (it would have been pretty delicious to see though).
- The impact of tariffs on the US economy has taken a lot longer to filter through so the US wasn't experiencing enough pain to want to negotiate. We're only now starting to see the effects of tariffs on the price of goods and I suspect it'll be 2026 before we really see the pain for US companies and consumers. Bankruptcies aren't going to take off till next year.

So the retaliation card is no longer a useful card to play - it's only useful if the other side will back down and the other side isn't feeling enough pain yet AND they're just plain stupid.

At this point, a continued boycott by Canadian consumers remains the most viable strategy. Dropping US alcohol has hurt and reducing travel has hurt and neither (and others) will affect negotiations.
Bahaha... I just keep seeing lefties defending their elbows.

Of course, I don't know what goes into Carney's negotiation tactics, but so far, it seems that US just keeps getting its way.

It wouldn't shock me one bit that one day Carney just come out with an announcement of us agreeing most of US demands while still imposing some tariffs like EU had agreed to.
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It’s funny I was talking someone outside RS the other day and they literally said “and then there’s hehe who just comes in ‘hahaha lefties’ on every post”

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Bahaha... I just keep seeing lefties defending their elbows.

Of course, I don't know what goes into Carney's negotiation tactics, but so far, it seems that US just keeps getting its way.

It wouldn't shock me one bit that one day Carney just come out with an announcement of us agreeing most of US demands while still imposing some tariffs like EU had agreed to.
Multiple shipping companies in Europe have stopped shipments to the US. The US is a shit show right now.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/europea...pment-tariffs/
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Multiple shipping companies in Europe have stopped shipments to the US. The US is a shit show right now.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/europea...pment-tariffs/
The de minimis rule essentially undermined US trade policy. When the stupid Liberal government in Canada increased the maximum value, it made Canadian retailers less competitive.
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Old Yesterday, 09:52 PM   #13582
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/europea...pment-tariffs/
Er... did you even read the article beyond the headline?

The fact still remains, everyone and their dog are trying to sell to US, because there isn't another economy large enough with the necessary consumption power on a per capita basis.

China was expected to replace US to become that world consumption superpower. But its economy is trash now. I was just in Shanghai a few weeks ago, and even though it's still as populous as ever, people just aren't spending money like they used to.

My usual go-to spot to host clients, a michellin starred resto in Shanghai used to need reservation a month in advance. Now I just called a night before and had window seat.

People are worried how their shit is going to get to the US, not they are refusing to sell to the US like you are trying to imply.
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Bahaha... I just keep seeing lefties defending their elbows.

Of course, I don't know what goes into Carney's negotiation tactics, but so far, it seems that US just keeps getting its way.

It wouldn't shock me one bit that one day Carney just come out with an announcement of us agreeing most of US demands while still imposing some tariffs like EU had agreed to.
I'm not sure what you think I'm defending here - I just laid out how things are different than they were at the beginning, was any of it not factual?

As for the outcome, what exactly are the US demands? It seems a given that we'll end up with some sort of agreement that looks like what everyone else is agreeing to but if that's the case then it makes sense to continue to drag things out as anything above our current effective rate (in the mid single digits due to zero tariffs on CUSMA goods) would have more impact than it does now.
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It’s funny I was talking someone outside RS the other day and they literally said “and then there’s hehe who just comes in ‘hahaha lefties’ on every post”

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What I also noticed is that the same 2-3 users keep talking about "elbows". So damn annoying, because they have nothing new to say...
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