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6793026 04-03-2020 07:31 PM
website in China are now black and white... to remember those in Wuhan...

(entertainment related websites)

westopher 04-03-2020 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8981242)
And if you really want to get into the current economic situation, you can go back to Manics soft spot for companies being “forced” to make materials to contribute to the PPE shortage. Trump called on companies like Ford etc. To shift their manufacturing over to developing PPE, etc. This stimulates economy, this keeps people employed, this keeps factories open who otherwise would have been closed. Canada has not done the same.
Come on man. You aren’t paying attention.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/edmonton...equipment/amp/

Quote:
OTTAWA (NEWS 1130) – Canada is set to buy 500 Canadian-made ventilators in the next couple of weeks as demand rises during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also announced Friday the federal government is allocating $2-billion to buy masks and other personal protective equipment to help frontline workers.

“I know that this pandemic has been incredibly challenging for people right across the country, but we’re also seeing the best of what it means to be Canadian,” he said. “From coast to coast to coast, businesses are retooling to produce face shields, ventilators, hand sanitizers, and other supplies our healthcare professionals need.”

beatdownvictim 04-03-2020 08:06 PM
Welp went the artscow route for masks

Manic! 04-03-2020 08:13 PM
Looks like Hondaracer is feeling the BUURRRNNN!!!!

SkinnyPupp 04-03-2020 08:14 PM

*reads last day of posts*

:considered:

SFU_wmc 04-03-2020 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8981280)
Anyone who wants masks order now before artscow runs out. I ordered 2 boxes of ASTM Level 1 Surgical Masks 3-Ply last night for $245 can shipped last night.
Isn't it $65 + $25 Fedex = $90 X2? How come it was $245?

beatdownvictim 04-03-2020 09:27 PM
Its priced in usd

SFU_wmc 04-03-2020 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beatdownvictim (Post 8981331)
Its priced in usd
Oh wtf. I keep reading this thread and thought it was in CAD. Then the KN95's are closer to $4 each.

ilovebacon 04-03-2020 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SFU_wmc (Post 8981332)
Oh wtf. I keep reading this thread and thought it was in CAD. Then the KN95's are closer to $4 each.
Thats expensive...

ilovebacon 04-03-2020 09:50 PM
Today at Canadian tires, two per family.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AT...wWvwqWXO6Oc-5D

spoon.ek9 04-03-2020 09:56 PM
CDC finally makes it official

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...5PHCqdv1BxmUBA

Quote:
CDC continues to study the spread and effects of the novel coronavirus across the United States. We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms. This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity—for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing—even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms. In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

SFU_wmc 04-03-2020 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beatdownvictim (Post 8981331)
Its priced in usd
Is there tax then?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebacon (Post 8981334)
Thats expensive...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebacon (Post 8981336)
Today at Canadian tires, two per family.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AT...wWvwqWXO6Oc-5D
The Canadian Tire ones are from Miniso without any kind of certifications, so I would trust the Artcows one more.

Assuming 2 boxes from Artcow: $65+65 and $25+10 Fedex = $165 USD = $235 CAD for 200 masks
Canadian Tire = $49.99 + tax = $56 per box of 50

So it's not that far off.

SkinnyPupp 04-03-2020 10:22 PM
I wonder if there are "price gouging" rules, if there's a percentage or what to determine what is considered price gouging.

Because these masks, especially the miniso ones, normally would be about $0.05-$0.10 each. Is a 10-20X markup not gouging? :considered:

beatdownvictim 04-03-2020 10:29 PM
Damn ct was selling a box of 3 ply masks for 32.99 a couple of weeks ago and i thought that was $$$

SFU_wmc 04-03-2020 10:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8981340)
I wonder if there are "price gouging" rules, if there's a percentage or what to determine what is considered price gouging.

Because these masks, especially the miniso ones, normally would be about $0.05-$0.10 each. Is a 10-20X markup not gouging? :considered:
Someone else might be able to charm in, but wouldn't one box of 50 be at least $20 pre-virus?

$40-50 is pretty much the 'norm' in Vancouver now a days.

Price gouging would be fucking Canada Wide Dental.
I ordered from them when it was around $26 very early on in Jan. They had the nerves to call me last week if I wanted more....at freaking $80 bucks.

Level 1: $76.95
https://canadawidedental.com/product...op-face-masks/
Level 2: $81.95
https://canadawidedental.com/product...lue-only-copy/
Level 2: $97.90
https://canadawidedental.com/product...e-face-shield/

:heckno:

Teriyaki 04-03-2020 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8981340)
I wonder if there are "price gouging" rules, if there's a percentage or what to determine what is considered price gouging.

Because these masks, especially the miniso ones, normally would be about $0.05-$0.10 each. Is a 10-20X markup not gouging? :considered:
Seems like gouging is "tolerated" as long as you have a business license.

SkinnyPupp 04-03-2020 11:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFU_wmc (Post 8981342)
Someone else might be able to charm in, but wouldn't one box of 50 be at least $20 pre-virus?

$40-50 is pretty much the 'norm' in Vancouver now a days.

Price gouging would be fucking Canada Wide Dental.
I ordered from them when it was around $26 very early on in Jan. They had the nerves to call me last week if I wanted more....at freaking $80 bucks.

Level 1: $76.95
https://canadawidedental.com/product...op-face-masks/
Level 2: $81.95
https://canadawidedental.com/product...lue-only-copy/
Level 2: $97.90
https://canadawidedental.com/product...e-face-shield/

:heckno:
Not sure about Canada but here and in Japan, a box of 60 regular 3 ply masks were about $40-50 HKD ($5-6 USD) before coronavirus. That's how much I paid for the boxes I ordered right before the outbreak was "taken seriously".

Remember the angry post I made when the public hospital I went to in January doubled the price of their mask vending machine from $1 HKD to $2? LUL

Ch28 04-03-2020 11:49 PM
Uh......does this mean 3M can't export anymore? If so, doesn't this have absolutely massive consequences to Canada and the rest of the world?

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/health-...xport-of-masks

Trump invokes Defense Production Act to stop export of masks

WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday signed an order directing his administration to stop N-95 face masks and other personal protective equipment needed in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic from being exported to other countries.

In a statement, Trump said his order under the Defense Production Act “is another step in our ongoing fight to prevent hoarding, price gouging, and profiteering by preventing the harmful export of critically needed PPE.” (Reporting by Eric Beech; Editing by Mohammad Zargham)

SkinnyPupp 04-03-2020 11:58 PM
Please tell me JT has Tsai Ing-wen on speed dial :badpokerface:

ilovebacon 04-04-2020 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFU_wmc (Post 8981338)
Is there tax then?




The Canadian Tire ones are from Miniso without any kind of certifications, so I would trust the Artcows one more.

Assuming 2 boxes from Artcow: $65+65 and $25+10 Fedex = $165 USD = $235 CAD for 200 masks
Canadian Tire = $49.99 + tax = $56 per box of 50

So it's not that far off.

Talk about price gouging... How is this different from an individual selling masks and these companies selling masks

SkinnyPupp 04-04-2020 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8981348)
Uh......does this mean 3M can't export anymore? If so, doesn't this have absolutely massive consequences to Canada and the rest of the world?

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/health-...xport-of-masks

Trump invokes Defense Production Act to stop export of masks

WASHINGTON — U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday signed an order directing his administration to stop N-95 face masks and other personal protective equipment needed in the fight against the coronavirus pandemic from being exported to other countries.

In a statement, Trump said his order under the Defense Production Act “is another step in our ongoing fight to prevent hoarding, price gouging, and profiteering by preventing the harmful export of critically needed PPE.” (Reporting by Eric Beech; Editing by Mohammad Zargham)
3M's statement.

TL;DR 3M says that if they stop shipping to Canada, and they retaliate by not sending pulp, America will end up with LESS MASKS than if they'd just exported the masks.

Trump is counting on Canada not retaliating. Some want to, others don't. If they can get their own manufacturing in order, or work with Taiwan instead, maybe they'll be able to.

This is so insane. How the fuck is Trump the fucking president? After 4 years I still don't get it. At times it was funny, but god damn. I feel so bad for Americans.

UnknownJinX 04-04-2020 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8981271)
The fact that it started in China is not relevant and not what OP is referring to. The fact that the CCP tried to cover it up, including arresting their own citizens who tried to notify people that it was much worse than they were saying, is what's relevant. They continue to lie about the source, statistics, death toll, everything. It's dangerous. They kept the WHO in the dark, who the other countries rely on for solid information. They missed their chance at containment, and tried to "save face" by lying about it.

It's not racist to criticize the CCP. Quite the opposite in fact, because we should be supporting the people of China who are living under tyranny not by choice.
There is no justification for calling it the Chinese virus, though. The way the message has been conveyed and understood can be very harmful for Asian populations, especially when they are perceived by people who already are racist.

If someone wants to called it CCP virus then okay, but when you call it Chinese virus there is a very terrible implication that has already presented its effects. You want to target the government? Then make the message clear.

Ch28 04-04-2020 12:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8981351)
3M's statement.

TL;DR 3M says that if they stop shipping to Canada, and they retaliate by not sending pulp, America will end up with LESS MASKS than if they'd just exported the masks.

Trump is counting on Canada not retaliating. Some want to, others don't. If they can get their own manufacturing in order, or work with Taiwan instead, maybe they'll be able to.

This is so insane. How the fuck is Trump the fucking president? After 4 years I still don't get it. At times it was funny, but god damn. I feel so bad for Americans.
Yeah, 3M issued that statement earlier in the day when the White House asked them to stop exporting.

My question is whether making the Defence Protection Act official means that 3M will be forced to stop the exportation of all masks.

:heckno:

Vansterdam 04-04-2020 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8981293)
So just ordered 1 box from them, when I signed up they also gave an email for 25% off the entire site so 1 box was $100 taxes in. Thanks Manic.

I’m not overly concerned in wearing them right now but moreso if somthing comes out where you must wear them.
mannnn I totally missed that part. I kept trying the 35% off that was posted on their website and it didnt work so i gave up lol

The 3 ply art cow ones work out to be about $100 for 100 masks if you don't choose the fedex shipping option. But who knows when it will get here

They claim FedEx would take about 4 days. if you sign up and use the 25% off email code it would be $100 WITH FEDEX and be here quicker.... or even cheaper if you use code and pick free shipping/ $2.50 shipping with tracking

StylinRed 04-04-2020 03:18 AM
https://scontent.fyvr3-1.fna.fbcdn.n...e6&oe=5EAE7166


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