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pastarocket 12-10-2020 09:26 AM

-wonder if it's better to tell my parents to wait to see if the Pfizer vaccine is indeed safe after seeing any news reports about side effects.

CRS 12-10-2020 09:33 AM

Have you guys read the articles out with basically every major publication of all these people that are "shocked" that they weren't eligible for CERB because they made less than $5,000 net income?

People are absolutely bonkers. How the hell do you not know the difference between gross revenue and net income?!

These people tried to scam the system hoping they don't get caught but now all are all whining and crying. I bet the majority of these people claimed all these deductions to lower their taxes but now they're regretting it. I bet a bunch of these people refiled as well with these deductions being reduced.

westopher 12-10-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9010005)
-wonder if it's better to tell my parents to wait to see if the Pfizer vaccine is indeed safe after seeing any news reports about side effects.

Side effects will happen. There’s a risk with vaccines. If the risk of complications of the vaccine were larger than the risks of the virus, it wouldn’t be approved. People are trying to create hysteria by comparing the worst case scenario of the vaccine against the best case scenario of the virus. It’s like suggesting you jump from a 5th story window during an apartment fire in your kitchen instead of walking down the stairs because there might be a fire in the stairwell.

whitev70r 12-10-2020 10:10 AM

^^ apparently, in initial CERB application. They did not clarify net or gross. Not the applicant's fault.

Manic! 12-10-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 9010003)
Dr Kory is the president of FLCCC. A large and growing group of nearly 100 physicians who work with covid patients in critical care. Himself having thousands of hours experience dealing with critically ill covid patients personally.
As mentioned the group has over 2000 peer reviewed publications.
I think he's qualified enough for his opinion to be taken seriously.

These doctors encourage the repurposing of treatments that have been in circulation for decades because the side effects are well known and documented. Of course the patents have expired on them years ago, so they're not as marketable as a drug like remdesevir, which Fauci and the media had lauded as practically groundbreaking with far less significant results.

The FLCCC Alliance

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As a group of colleagues with over 200 years of combined experience in Critical Care and Emergency Medicine, as well as long-standing shared interests in developing effective treatments for critical illnesses including sepsis, we, the FLCCC Alliance, formed a working group devoted to creating a treatment protocol against COVID-19. The protocol we devised, called MATH+ is intended for use in the hospitalized patient, with an emphasis on early initiation — as soon as the patient develops a need for supplemental oxygen.
You claim they have 100 members he claims they have a combined 200 years of experience. That's an average of 2 years each. LOL.


This doctor claims you don't need a mask and corona is no worse than a common cold. So welfare stop being a sheep and listen to the doctor. Take off your mask and get you wife to take hers off too.


320icar 12-10-2020 10:57 AM

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They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure.
Unfortunately this is me. I’ve always had low blood pressure, paired with a fear of needles = adrenaline spike. Every time I get a needle (from immunization in school to a local freezing shot) I have an 80-90% chance of PTFO’ing. Pretty embarrassing

320icar 12-10-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 9010007)
Have you guys read the articles out with basically every major publication of all these people that are "shocked" that they weren't eligible for CERB because they made less than $5,000 net income?

People are absolutely bonkers. How the hell do you not know the difference between gross revenue and net income?!

These people tried to scam the system hoping they don't get caught but now all are all whining and crying. I bet the majority of these people claimed all these deductions to lower their taxes but now they're regretting it. I bet a bunch of these people refiled as well with these deductions being reduced.

Link?

Manic! 12-10-2020 11:21 AM

Idiot with covid enters Alberta care home to visit relative.


CRS 12-10-2020 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9010012)
^^ apparently, in initial CERB application. They did not clarify net or gross. Not the applicant's fault.

There's an obvious different between gross REVENUE and net INCOME.

if you've ever been self-employed, you know this.

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 9010020)
Link?

Spoiler!


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...-cra-1.5834950

What's even more embarrassing is that first person is a financial journalist. She applied for her, her husband, and their daughter (with disability). You're telling me that a family of 3 is surviving a WHOLE YEAR on less than $15,000?

Clearly someone is either incompetent at their job or lying on their taxes. I'm betting it's both.

Here's another guy that apparently has to "sell his tools and truck"

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...back-1.5218791

welfare 12-10-2020 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9010016)
The FLCCC Alliance



You claim they have 100 members he claims they have a combined 200 years of experience. That's an average of 2 years each. LOL.


This doctor claims you don't need a mask and corona is no worse than a common cold. So welfare stop being a sheep and listen to the doctor. Take off your mask and get you wife to take hers off too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwiDJd4E5Ho

The 200 years experience is between the founders of the organization.

Everyone has the ability to make of information what they will. Some come to this thread to offer and receive that information to form their opinions, while others come to shit post, mock and tactically attempt to disprove anything that doesn't fit their narrow preconceived view.
Where do you honestly think you fall in that spectrum?

SkinnyPupp 12-10-2020 12:52 PM

No I'm glad you're sharing the info, and I'm glad there's a potential treatment for it.

Just don't get ahead of yourself with pinning hopes on this drug, because it fits the tired conspiracy of "they're not going to use it because they won't make money off it". We've heard that a million times with supposed cancer cures.

Nobody wants Coronavirus to stay for 1 second longer than it has to. If a $2 drug cures it, you bet your ass almost every country in the world will be pushing to use it, regardless of what drug companies say.

Coren 12-10-2020 04:39 PM

723 new cases and 28 deaths in the last 24 hours

Hondaracer 12-10-2020 04:51 PM

26 of the 28 deaths from long term care.

I love that Horgan is spending a billion dollars to give everyone $500 instead of using that money to do onsite testing at all these care homes and hiring an army of cleaners and assistants to support these places

But hey, instead of potentially saving your grandma I’m gonna go out and buy somthing absolutely retardedly frivolous like a $500 bottle of champagne.

(I don’t think my wife and I will get $1000 total given our incomes but if we do I think I’m gonna be donating at least $500 of it back to BC children’s or BC cancer because I don’t need $500 to be perfectly honest ffs..)

westopher 12-10-2020 06:22 PM

If they were just gonna hand out money they should have put the scale way lower.
1k to a 125k household means nothing and as you said it will just get wasted unless someone turns around and gives it to charity. I do think there might have been a stipulation that it had to go directly to the public however as it was federal funds given to the province to distribute. At least it should have been given to actual low income families and in a greater amount would have been way better distribution.

welfare 12-10-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9010076)
26 of the 28 deaths from long term care.

I love that Horgan is spending a billion dollars to give everyone $500 instead of using that money to do onsite testing at all these care homes and hiring an army of cleaners and assistants to support these places

But hey, instead of potentially saving your grandma I’m gonna go out and buy somthing absolutely retardedly frivolous like a $500 bottle of champagne.

(I don’t think my wife and I will get $1000 total given our incomes but if we do I think I’m gonna be donating at least $500 of it back to BC children’s or BC cancer because I don’t need $500 to be perfectly honest ffs..)

Well don't count on our federal government, who've thrown money like confetti in every direction except where it matters most, being much help in that regard either.
I really want not to believe that our leaders don't care about these people who are dying, but it's a notion I'm finding more and more difficult to contend with..
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...ence-1.5836535

Zedbra 12-10-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9009910)
Person gets Vaccine

Person is hit by a bus

OmG We NeEd MoRe DaTa!!!!

Last week CTV was reporting 80% of Covid deaths in Canada have occurred in LTC, with an average age of 84. The total was under 12k deaths at that time, leaving the remaining 2100 representing 0.005% of our population. Better get that pharma shot and hope you don't grow up.

SkinnyPupp 12-10-2020 07:46 PM

Vaccines are needed to eliminate the virus... Everyone becomes immune, the virus can't spread, old people (and everyone else) are safe.

You're talking about 12K deaths like it's nothing :seriously:

whitev70r 12-10-2020 08:05 PM

^ Thing is how many would have died just naturally anyhow? Far as I know, 82.5 is avg lifespan in Canada. I've always wondered about this particular stat - avg age of Covid death in LTC at 84.

RRxtar 12-10-2020 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9009987)
"You better listen to me, I am wearing a white coat with my name on it" EleGiggle

https://i.imgur.com/P4tmIAg.jpg

:badpokerface:

welfare 12-10-2020 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 9010099)
Vaccines are needed to eliminate the virus... Everyone becomes immune, the virus can't spread, old people (and everyone else) are safe.

You're talking about 12K deaths like it's nothing :seriously:

That is the idea, yes. But there's no evidence that the vaccines thus far offer immunity.

Manic! 12-10-2020 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 9010028)
The 200 years experience is between the founders of the organization.

Everyone has the ability to make of information what they will. Some come to this thread to offer and receive that information to form their opinions, while others come to shit post, mock and tactically attempt to disprove anything that doesn't fit their narrow preconceived view.
Where do you honestly think you fall in that spectrum?

Everyone does not have the ability to understand the information. That's why we have experts. When 99.9 percent of the doctors say one thing you believe the .1 percent. How much hydroxychloroquine do you have stock pilled?





https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...t-15785624.php

Spoiler!

Hondaracer 12-10-2020 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9010101)
^ Thing is how many would have died just naturally anyhow? Far as I know, 82.5 is avg lifespan in Canada. I've always wondered about this particular stat - avg age of Covid death in LTC at 84.

That’s how it’s been from the beggining across the board. The average age of a covid related death is OLDER than the average age of death..

Deaths are obviously a terrible end result but I find it somewhat amusing that for every little thing whether it be

You cant go see family, this is an unprecedented time!!

You can’t gather with friends at a restaurant, these are unprecedented times!

You better wear your mask during every second of the day, these are unprecedented times!!!

However when it comes to old people dieing older than they normal would otherwise? SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

I’m being a dick but it kinda stands to reason..in these unprecedented things are going to happen which are terrible, but almost unavoidable.

SkinnyPupp 12-10-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 9010104)

No need to poker face that lol

welfare 12-10-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9010109)
Everyone does not have the ability to understand the information. That's why we have experts. When 99.9 percent of the doctors say one thing you believe the .1 percent. How much hydroxychloroquine do you have stock pilled?





https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...t-15785624.php

Spoiler!

If you think there's been anywhere near a 99.9% consensus from experts regarding treatments for this virus, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I think you may be interested in.

Nlkko 12-10-2020 10:39 PM

Immune reactions are unique to the individual. Extrapolate a single case to make inference about the whole population is statistically criminal.

I'm curious I thought you dumb fucks MAGAs wanted to support small businesses, and would rather die for the economy? Wasn't that your schtick when the initial lockdown happens? If everyone getting vaccinated with a marginal number of adverse reaction to the vaccine means reopening economy, isn't this the outcome you wanted?

Or is it because it's supported by science, i.e. libtards, now you're not gonna do it? Aren't nana dying to get out of the house?

Which one is it? Make up your mind.


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